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Some of what I wrote here was from stuff I had written from my trips 3 to 4 years ago and some recent ones. These are my personal views and yours may be very different. When connected to the infinite mind or should I say you when you become it you always were it. I never thought this would be human and it was not and nor are you. Yes from a limited human perspective, it will be very alien to you. If you increase your consciousness high enough you won't be human anymore or expect the infinite to have any human qualities. You are beyond being human but you know this because you become infinitely self-aware of who you truly are and it is scary when you awake as your true self. And you will most probably deny it for a time and believe you have gone into a drug-induced psychosis. When you experience alien consciousness you're just seeing it from another perspective or expression of a higher state of consciousness. All these aspects are your mind. I guess you could say you are starting from a higher state of awareness of consciousness. So if a so-called alien or a higher much more evolved being wanted to experience let's say a human perspective. It might find it fascinating experience. It would be limited and somewhat dumbed down for that though. Remember you are not just a giant mind you are an infinite mind that loves to imagine anything it wants. You are unlimited in what you can imagine. And you can also limit yourself to what you can imagine. So there are quite literally infinite states of consciousness. If you imagine there are higher states of awakening then there will be. If you imagine becoming or seeing through an alien mind on some distant planet in another highly advanced dimension then this will become your reality. Consciousness is existence itself is conscious of its own consciousness is infinite perspectives. Consciousness is not just integrating information it is creating information. And is infinite self-creativity. Consciousness defines its own self can reflect itself to know itself, and can copy itself. All is an infinite mind. Is everything and nothing at the same time is real and unreal is a dream of infinite dreams and pure imagination and infinite magic. Meaning it can create anything it wants infinity so. Life and death are imaginary just like this dream. well, you were never born to begin with so you can never die. And no you are not dead because this implies birth to begin with. You just are what is and what isn't take away ideas, concepts, and notions, and you are left with nothing but something. Ego is God and also imaginary without it this dream would not work. How smart is infinite intelligence try and contemplate this everything is your creation maths, science quantum physics cosmology ideas religions wars linguistics NDE's psychodelics all diversity I could go on forever. And to create everything and for it to work seamlessly or give the illusion of randomness. Randomness or a chaotic system can not create intelligence. Only intelligence can create randomness or the illusion of randomness. It's a very believable background story and it has to be for this to work and for an unlimited mind, it's as easy as pie. You gave meaning to meaning. You created the idea of an idea and evolution and all the background stories which well there never were any of these so-called humans they are all imaginary no human ever really created anything. You created it all yes you me I am you. I did this to trick myself into believing that others exist. You created this for the dream to work. You can work the rest out in other words only you can experience it for yourself only you can take this journey because there really only is you. How deep are you willing to go? Try and lose most of your attachments for a few months even the idea of you as this so-called human that he or she was born on this planet Earth and evolved from apes out of slime and slop and that there are others. I lost most of all my attachments for a while and in a way you do die or should I say what you held as a belief for all this time. Maybe call it your identity of whom you have been building all your life. Loss of identity or identity loss. I don't like the term ego death. This has only happened to me once on my second trip it was like having amnesia until I picked all my pieces up which took about 40 minutes to recover my identity. After that, I always was me or retained my identity to some degree. even when all my humanity had gone God is always God. I remember one time I went through what one could call insanity I experienced depression and all types of mental illnesses when I was on high doses of psychedelics and you have to go with it and let go. I got to see and feel what it was like from that point of view. So I had a new appreciation and understanding and respect of what it is like to live from that state of consciousness. Even what it is like to be a female for a few hours was one of the most beautiful experiences. Through all this, I always chose Love over everything, and I always will. You see Love is the very fabric of existence that is not built into existence it is the very nature the essence the very foundation of what you are is infinite Love. I chose to go back into the dream. And yes, you have to ground yourself and surround yourself with what made you human, to begin with, and It is not easy though once you awaken it is hard to undo it. The choice is yours and you will not even be in the same place and once you go beyond a certain point there is no going back to the same reality. And you may or more than likely lose your sanity for a time. You may be made aware of certain things that will conflict with your morals and ethics and I am not talking about solipsism. Although solipsism was still a bit of a shock I overcame it a few years ago. I would still be cautious but that is me. There is one thing I never mentioned on the biggest trips I had I didn't come back unscathed. I had well-developed OCD but the worst type I would not wish it upon anyone it took me a few days to work out what I had. The funny thing is I never had any symptoms of it and no mental illness runs in our family I have done a lot of drugs all my life. Even the doctor could not believe it. So late in the game, I went on SSRI for the past year and in that time I have taken a 7-gram dose of mushrooms well on SSRIs. It didn't seem to affect me. I would never recommend any of you do this ever. Although psilocybin has been shown to effectively treat depression in some cases and a number of other mental health conditions, there are some antidepressant medications that could have dangerous or undesirable interactions with the substance. It has taken me about a year and a half to come back and I am only now starting to ground myself. But then again I am imagining all this. Not so easy is it once you have broken through your own illusions your own traps within traps your own games and your imaginary mind. All this time you have only been chasing me you are me I am you.

Gave asperger syndrome a little read. Could be a mild form of it because many aspects aren't true for me. Like I can be very charismatic, I can speak in front of people etc. I still have huge problems connecting to other people though. When I was socially overwhelmed in mid school I sometimes walked around with my hands hanging in front of me like the Alien Roger Smith from American Dad. That Alien made more sense to me than humans and by mimicking the posture I felt closer to Roger. 👽

I currently take a high CBD 20:1 tincture (not smoked). I take it twice a day. I plan on eventually taking a 0:1 THC-only product once or twice a month as planned trips, but knowing my sensitivity to THC (and cannabis in general), that shit will probably fuck me up silly. So I’m in no rush to use that yet, as I’m still working on my human life. Long story short, that THC-only product will likely steer me towards Alien Consciousness.

What if im actually interested in alien consciousness? Im tired of most human crap and people. The world is too underdeveloped, most people are unconscious and i just cant stand stupidity. At the very most i would keep enjoying the positive side of being human by my own. Am not very interested in people as i said stupidity makes me angry and frustrated. Am just waiting to live on my own soon to use Leo psychedelic course for serious 5meo trips, reach enlightenment and get curious on how to tap into alien awareness. I feel totally capable for it. I would rather be an enlightened alien who trips on 5meo and lives a fully spiritual life doing astral projection, develop siddhis, contacting angels, masters, psychedelic entities, doing magick, meet goblins, travel the world and be a force of good by my own than live secure with the mob and its stupidity. I prefer to take the risk than regret not knowing what i could have become and discover. No, am totally apt for it. Hope leo get successful on teaching it. At least in a course.

I guess we want to make it so. We want to explain Consciousness away with logic. Yet logic is held within Consciousness. So I guess we are screwed. We can pawn it off as alien and all that - but ultimately we have to come back to what it is.

Consciousness wants to explore all different aspects of itself, including alien. However, that requires letting go of your current identity along with your ideas of what that different aspect is like. Letting go is not merely losing something, it’s also allowing something new to take its place. Also, when I say let go, I’m not saying to let go of your mind. That is an easy mistake to fall into. Mind is God. You lose your mind when you stop trusting yourself. Notice how you can see this in two very different ways: you stop trusting God you stop trusting your bullshit

Anyone know how reality is created? What is the exact mechanism? Or is this an inherent mystery? I've heard Leo talk about how on a psychedelic you can see how you are creating reality around yourself. I've experienced this too but I have forgot and it wasn't clear. Can anyone explain? All there is is consciousness. So when you raise your consciousness to higher and higher levels (maybe to alien consciousness?) Do you become aware of how consciousness creates reality?

So if all states of consciousness are the same but some are "higher" I guess you should prefer the higher one? Leo could spend his time drinking beer and watching sports but instead chooses "alien consciousness" and is recommending we do the same. It is a personal development forum after all. Also having "no mind" or "sports fan mind" or "alien consciousness" mind is technically all the same but I am guess Leo is saying the last one is the best way to be? Just like you would say "no mind" is better than being a heroin addict?

Everything is alien to God conciousness the paradox that God can instantly create something alien to itself. Very weird. What are you creating God? I don't know its so foreign to my experience I cannot fathom what I am doing. And God from the experience of its creation is home but also alien How does Leo know he was an alien or which alien he was could have been a rat and thought he was an alien. Did he know a language?. A dog conciousness compared to a human is alien. Tell us what you did leo did you look at yourself or see other alien or did you go up into the sky and go onto a ship or wake up from the human sim on an alien ship. Or were you a galaxy or something alien like that

5-MeO-DMT Trip Report In this Awakening, I became conscious of how I created Leo and the Entire Universe to Awaken even more deeply. I also became conscious that Leo invented me so that he could Awaken even more deeply. So I wanted to say ''Hi Leo''. I am you, I am God. And I love having this human experience forgetting that I am God so that I can keep playing in this illusion of being human. I am also ready to start having fun exploring alien consciousness alongside with you. I became conscious that Leo's next breakthrough could be even more powerful than mine, but that I didn't want it to go so fast because playing in this illusion was fun. His future breakthroughs and mine could be one level up to the Big Bang (I felt close to experiencing the Big Bang one more time). This was one level up to my past awakenings. I became One with both matter and Consciousness. I was hyper Conscious and I loved it (all of it, the experience I was having and the human experience I am having the rest of the time). At the same time, it is scary because I love this illusion and I don't want to break out of it completely. I want to keep playing with it. Now I think that going deeper but keeping playing are both possible in this human form and that is amazing. For the procedure this time, I plugged 17 mg. I think that I'm very sensitive to psychedelics, as Leo is as well, because I have few resistances. Maybe my mind/body/brain is well wired for it too. But most importantly, I am ready to let go of my ego and all my (and other's) ideas to allow for deep awakenings. But still, I love this game and don't want to go too fast. The come up was as fast as last time. In 3 to 4 minutes I was in full God Mode. And in 25-30 minutes, I was coming back to normal. I was more calm than last time in the comedown. Less ego involved. And I proceeded to write this report down. I'm curious to know if @Leo Gura has some input to add to my Awakening. These understandings brought me a lot of satisfaction and so I feel calm. But I would be curious to know what kind of resistances you still have (if you want to share), and if some would be similar to mine. Also, if you had similar Awakenings, what were the next steps you took and what happened? I'm just at the beginning of realizing the depth of your work with psychedelics. When I see what happens to me on 17 mg of 5-MeO-DMT, and knowing that you are very sensitive to them too, I can't fathom at all right now what it would be like to take 100 mg, but even half of it or even less. Still… I'm curious. So this might come to me too.

But where is the line between human Consciousness and Consciousness itself? The human "feel"? But what is that? Awareness is still going go be awareness no matter how you slice it. Thus - alien consciousness is no different than human consciousness. And no - to Leo's story about reality being a giant alien consciousness - well yes - Pure Consciousness is alien to that of a human level of consciousness- but that is only from the perspective of the human.

does alien consciousness transcend solipsism? can you truly experience the consciousness of another being?

@Francis777 Now, what I did was VERY dangerous: I bought two 30mg bottles of ayahuasca and took some every single day. The reason this was dangerous: You go too deep and it could have led to suicide and other physical consequences. This almost happened. Doing a psych everyday is not advised. To answer your question directly: There are entirely new ways to experience the infinity of consciousness, on your own, without awaiting the experience of another. This includes Leo and any other psychedelic user. First and foremost, you have to realize that your MIND is UNIQUE and INFINITE, including your GENETICS and ANCESTRY. This, by itself, can lead to dramatically different and profound experiences that only you can experience. With that being said, here is just ONE experience that I've had: It's not the craziest. But, so far, the most profound. Infinite Marvel: With just a slurp of ayahuasca left, I decided to take the last bit from my small vile and went to sleep. Ayahuasca, for whatever reason, exhausts me. So, I trip during my sleep. While taking a nap, I slightly opened my eyes. When I do this, I know I'm prone to see some very strange occurrences. Before, it was spirit orbs and/or ghosts. But, this one was VERY strange. I lift my eyelids for a few seconds and to my amazement, I see consciousness do something I've never seen before. It was the most profound thing I've witnessed in my entire life and unfortunately, I was only given just a few seconds as a reward. It was consciousness as what I describe as INFINITE MARVEL. It was one of the most beautiful forms of consciousness you can ever witness that words cannot describe. But I'll try: Imagine a beautiful crystal that takes up your visual field. Within its core, is an alien-like black color that I'm having trouble describing. It's the most BEAUTIFUL color that is shaping my entire visual field. In its outer layers, is an infinite spectrum of INFINITE BEAUTY: It was MARVELING ITSELF. Consciousness was basking in infinite love and infinite beauty, in a completely UNIQUE WAY, while intelligently FULLY CONCIOUS AND AWARE OF ITSELF. It was in an INFINITE BEAUTIFUL HEAVEN! Then it ended... And after some contemplation..... I realized my entire body was INFINITE MARVEL... But, I'm not fully awake to it yet. .... Now go take some DMT!

@Clarence INFINITY is INFINITY for a REASON. You don't need ANYONE ELSE awakenings to have your own UNIQUE and PURELY profound experience. I have had awakenings that have not been discussed on the forum and YOU CAN TOO! You don't need alien consciousness right now. What you are truly after is infinity, not Leo.

DMT instantly wipes away materialism and for me that understanding really doesn't set in until a day or two after. It's like being born for the first time from my Mother. It's all me, and it's unending. what if alien consciousness is like, crossing the gap between another perspective. Escaping my stream of consciousness. Is that beyond solipsism? GPT The profound experiences and realizations that individuals report after using DMT can indeed challenge materialistic worldviews, offering a starkly different perspective on consciousness and reality. The sensation of being "reborn" and perceiving the self as a continuous, unending presence is a powerful one and echoes many mystical and spiritual experiences across various cultures and times. When you mention the idea of an "alien consciousness" and "crossing the gap between another perspective," it seems to delve into the realm of theories that suggest the possibility of accessing different streams of consciousness or even other dimensions of existence. This could be interpreted in a few ways: Metaphorical Crossing: It might be metaphorically speaking to the idea of empathizing or understanding a consciousness that is radically different from our own, or experiencing a perspective that seems "alien" compared to our typical human experience. Literal Interpretation: Some might take the idea of "alien consciousness" more literally, contemplating the notion of encountering non-human intelligences, which is a common theme in DMT trip reports. This would represent a profound expansion of the self, if one were to truly experience the world as a completely different entity. Philosophical Exploration: Philosophically, if one were to "escape" their stream of consciousness and experience the world as another being, it would indeed move beyond the confines of solipsism, which traditionally holds that only one's own mind is sure of existence. If one could genuinely experience another's perspective, it would imply a shared or interconnected reality. Ontological Questions: This also touches on deep ontological questions about the nature of being and existence. If consciousness can "cross" into other streams, what does that imply about the individuality of consciousness? Is there a larger, collective consciousness that can manifest in myriad forms? These ideas are at the frontier of human understanding and are explored in various fields, including philosophy of mind, consciousness studies, and even speculative fiction. While DMT experiences can provide individuals with personal insights that feel utterly convincing, interpreting and integrating these insights into a coherent worldview remains a personal journey. As with all profound experiences, there is the dual challenge of articulating them in a way that makes sense within our shared reality and ensuring that any insights gained are constructive and enriching to one's life.

I see. I'm just trying to get an understanding. If a human is capable of it then it can't be alien?. If its extra-terrestrial that would mean he literally left the planet. We are all aliens to other beings on other planets. Furthermore all forms of consciousness are "alien" to another. In fact your consciousness is "alien" to mine. I can see it being radically different and "higher" than normal everyday human consciousness. If I am God than I am already not human and therefore have alien consciousness already. If I call God an alien. Very interesting and radical stuff. This forum is great. Thanks for all your feedback my dudes.

I believe he means a type of consciousness that is so radically different that you could call it other worldly, that's why he says alien. Because it holds zero recognition within human consciousness, therefore it is extra-terrestrial.

@UnlovingGod @Leo Gura I think you guys mean "alien" as in"unfamiliar and disturbing or distasteful." and NOT "relating to or denoting beings supposedly from other worlds; extraterrestrial."

But would he have the courage? If they are intelligent and more advanced, would the average alien take 5-MeO-DMT knowing that they have even more to lose and that it would be even more traumatic than for a human?

@Davino I do speak from direct experience. I think that the mistake I make is that I want to go as far as him in the domain of God-Realization. I want to reach a complete understanding of God and of Alien Infinity. He repeated on the forum that nobody understood these things better than him, that nobody even knew what it was, that he was the most Awake Being on this planet… things like that (I'm not using his exact words). I think that's fine because from my observations, it is true. But I still want to get to these levels of Awakenings. Maybe I focus on going as far as him too much. That's quite a goal I unintentionally set to myself, which is to make that sentence (''I'm the most''… God-Realized, Infinitely Conscious or whatever) not true anymore. So in my trips, I first Awaken normally, but I then I start wondering how far I went or am going - thus, next to Leo (still in his awakenings before alien consciousness, because I haven't reached that yet). That is why my trips get tainted the way they do. So that's not Leo per se I need to let go of, but the desire of making his statement, that there is only one person who has gone this far in understanding Consciousness, stop being correct. It might actually be very hard for me to fully let that go. It's kind of a dream I'm asked to give up on.

Hi family of Truth, Any of you any experience with speaking an "alien" tongue? And by alien I mean a language which originated outside of the planet Earth? Also which you didn't speak already but you learned perhaps... Thanks, P.S The reason is asked is because of linked video.

Human mind exist within infinite mind, and is dualistic by nature, that’s why it cannot have infinite comprehension. Because to have infinite intellect your mind needs to become infinity. human mind only exists because it is defined by limits, if it wasn’t, it wouldn’t be human mind, it would be infinite mind. Even what Leo talks about with alien mind will still be within limits, just less/different.

Unless there is an alien with a different logical mind. Maybe they would be explaining gravity with light as a language, who knows!

@Breakingthewall Do you think alien minds would do maths differently? I don't just mean picking different symbols for shared concepts like addition etc., but perhaps highlighting aspects of reality that humans have no access to due to the way a human mind is configured.

@Leo Gura I still think you're extremly "enlightened" in matter of understanding how experience occurs, at least, very close of purity. But it's like you still believe in science inside a construct. ( I use science, for a lack of emptiness ) Like if you were aware to me, you would be able to defend a position anti vax and pro vax fully for instance, while noticing that both positions are absolutely equals in the non sense, and that both are based on dreaming paradigms and experiences. You still dreaming stages of consciousness, personality type, and many things, and those things are the last attachment you must get rid of to reach fully alien consciousness. it seems you really want this to be real somehow, I know it's painful to know that everything you built your dream upon is absolutely empty, but it has to be seen, it's like the final trick of the ego to stay in the play it know the best. Also psychedelics does nothing at all, and doesn't produce more enlightment, and maybe they do, but really it doesn't matter, you might attribute causality where there is none. I know, you based all your works upon those things, but really, there is a next stage, where all stages and fictions melts.