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ajasatya replied to WHO IS's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@WHO IS I am not a believer of individual reincarnation. As far as my insights have taken me, the Spirit reincarnates. But Spirit is the fabric of Reality itself, rather than an individuality. The Spirit does remember itself through the histories that we listen to. We know about Hitler, Beethoven etc. New scientists can continue the work of dead scientists and so on. -
(if we consider that there is reincarnation) : How can it be advanced if when you die you are reborn in a new body, while you forget all the memory from the previous one? Like reading a book that so you can forget about anything you read in the book after you finish it/close it. That's quite a curse! Here is a question/proof for You(Or anyone else who Is reading this!), Do You think You could write anything while you are in this incarnation for your future incarnation and recognize that you wrote it to yourself when you will be in your future incarnation? (if we consider that there is no reincarnation) : You live gain experiences-memories for it to end at the moment of death for eternity? Like deleting a file to 100% extent from a computer. If we wanted to think about forms of existence/life-forms which are much more advanced than being a human, we don't need to do much work, we just need to read about the different variety of Gods amongst different religions for starters for example. Heck, we could open a Marvel-Superhero Comic Book to get inspiration for higher forms of existence.
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Many yogis and enlightened masters talk about reincarnation. If it is true, then suicide is definitely not the end to any suffering because you will be right back here to 'suffer' more. Having said that anything will not seem true for you until you have a direct experience of it, so you wouldn't know for sure if reincarnation is real. But is it worth taking that chance? Killing the body doesn't mean the end to the real you. Killing body will limit you from experiencing the physicality of existence but that doesn't mean you cease to exist. There is nowhere to go. If anyone is in a state of suicide, it is most probably because the mental structure has become a mess. There are ways to undo it. Real Yoga and meditation are few of the tools you can use
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seeking_brilliance replied to seeking_brilliance's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Gospel of Thomas, chapter 2, verses 1-4 Jesus says: (1) “The one who seeks should not cease seeking until he finds. (2) And when he finds, he will be dismayed. (3) And when he is dismayed, he will be astonished. (4) And he will be king over the All.” Gospel of Thomas Chapter 4, versus 1-3 Jesus says: (1) “The person old in his days will not hesitate to ask a child seven days old about the place of life, and he will live. (2) For many who are first will become last, (3) and they will become a single one.” *not sure about verse one, but 2 and three seem to be talking about reincarnation possibly Gospel of Thomas Chapter 5 versus 1-2 Jesus says: (1) “Come to know what is in front of you, and that which is hidden from you will become clear to you. (2) For there is nothing hidden that will not become manifest.” *talking about shadow work? Also reminds me of Leo's exercise of looking at your hands Gospel of Thomas Chapter 8 verses 1-4 (1) And he says: “The human being is like a sensible fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea filled with little fish. (2) Among them the sensible fisherman found a large, fine fish. (3) He threw all the little fish back into the sea, (and) he chose the large fish effortlessly. (4) Whoever has ears to hear should hear.” *actually looking for an interpretation on this one. Any time he says 'whoever has ears...' it is an intentionally coded parable. Gospel of Thomas Chapter 10 Jesus says: “I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am guarding it until it blazes.” *the stories of Jesus literally changed and shaped the world. He knew exactly what he was doing... Exodus 33:20 And He said, “Thou canst not see My face, for there shall no man see Me and live.” *it counts because technically I was raised to believe that the God who spoke to Moses was in fact the premanifest son of God (Jesus). Seems to be talking about ego death? To remember that nothing has ever lived? Somewhere in Exodus probably.... "Then Moses said to God, “Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?” And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’ ” The Gospel of Mary Magdalene 22) The Savior said, All nature, all formations, all creatures exist in and with one another, and they will be resolved again into their own roots. 23) For the nature of matter is resolved into the roots of its own nature alone. 30) Matter gave birth to a passion that has no equal, which proceeded from something contrary to nature. Then there arises a disturbance in its whole body. 31) That is why I said to you, Be of good courage, and if you are discouraged be encouraged in the presence of the different forms of nature. Matt.22 Verses 34 to 40 [36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law? [37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. [38] This is the first and great commandment. [39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. * I like this one. A nondual type quote hidden in plain sight all this time. I still would like to know more about the mind/body /soul connection, or is this only a Christian anology for something? John 14:10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. * I was raised to believe that Jesus and the father and the holy spirit were one God, but three different manifestations of it. Jesus sometimes appears to be saying that we are all one God. Gospel of Thomas... Somewhere in there... (1) “I am the light that is over all. I am the All. The All came forth out of me. And to me the All has come.” (2) “Split a piece of wood — I am there. (3) Lift the stone, and you will find me there.” Gospel of Thomas Chapter 17 Jesus says: “I will give you what no eye has seen, and what no ear has heard, and what no hand has touched, and what has not occurred to the human mind.” Gospel of Thomas Chapter 18 (1) The disciples said to Jesus: “Tell us how our end will be.” (2) Jesus said: “Have you already discovered the beginning that you are now asking about the end? For where the beginning is, there the end will be too. (3) Blessed is he who will stand at the beginning. And he will know the end, and he will not taste death.” James 1:19 My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry. *I like this because it's overall great advice Luke 6:37 Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven Mark 8:34-35 Then, calling the crowd to join his disciples, he said, “If any of you wants to be my follower, you must give up your own way, take up your cross, and follow me. If you try to hang on to your life, you will lose it. But if you give up your life for my sake and for the sake of the Gospel, you will save it”. *this is certainly an allegory for something... John 14:27 I am leaving you with a gift—peace of mind and heart. And the peace I give is a gift the world cannot give. So don’t be troubled or afraid. Somewhere in the new testament.... Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” 57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and You have seen Abraham?” 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then they took up stones to throw at Him; Matthew 6:24 No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. ~The Book of Thomas The Contender He who has known himself has…already achieved knowledge about the depth of all. ~Gospel of Thomas That which you have will save you if you bring it forth from yourselves. ~The Dialogue of the Savior Matthew: “Lord, when I speak…who listens? The Lord said: “It is the one who speaks who also listens, and it is the one who can see who also reveals.” *when two become one? Gospel of Thomas Chapter 50 Jesus says: (1) “If they say to you: ‘Where do you come from?’ (then) say to them: ‘We have come from the light, the place where the light has come into being by itself, has established [itself] and has appeared in their image.’ (2) If they say to you: ‘Is it you?’ (then) say: ‘We are his children, and we are the elect of the living Father.’ (3) If they ask you: ‘What is the sign of your Father among you?’ (then) say to them: ‘It is movement and repose.’” -
winterknight replied to winterknight's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Basically all metaphysical questions of this kind -- e.g. about reincarnation, about the relationship of God to mortals, of the "I" to other individuals, etc. -- are all born out of the sense of separation, and the mental categories that come out of that sense of separation. But that sense of separation is not true. Therefore the mental categories that come out of it are not true. Therefore the questions that are based on those categories are not true. But of course this is just putting the matter in words -- and so this way of saying it is also, strictly speaking, not true. -
Truth Addict replied to 1liamo78's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@1liamo78 Reincarnation is originally a Hindu and a Buddhist belief. There was no world population back then. To me, it seems so silly. Nevertheless, that's not what is meant by reincarnation. You're treating the "soul" that is being reincarnated as a separate entity, while in their paradigm it's one and it's everywhere and everyone all at the same time. Which honestly, to me, is even more silly. But who knows? I could be wrong. -
In Leo's video the one before last on meaning of life, he talks about how we are reincarnated, and we (God) choose to divide itself again to be reborn, but how could it be true when we take into consideration the earths population, the population has been growing massively, so dosnt that show that it's not just the same souls being reborn over and over again but new "souls", if it was the same souls then the population wouldn't be caused by Eccononic and political conditions etc?
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ValiantSalvatore replied to Inliytened1's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
A small list of metaphysical post survival / non-survival ideas. Accessing state-stages Accessing subtle,causal,non-dual realms Cleaning chakras (Cultivating a mind-body relationship) Not informing oneself about post survival stuff Accepting reincarnation theories (nirvana/samsara) Accepting content of dreams Considering sidhis Pursuing enlightenment Neglecting enlightenment Jhanas or states of high concentration/forms of absorptions IIRC Psychedelics -
30secs replied to legendary's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
the Thing actually was our personality is just an illusion. That illusion is the boarder between you an me, character between dreams. In order to be me, I should forget to be anyone else or something else. Hitting from the point of view of reincarnation, you have been reincarnated for the infinite times. But hey, we can never understand Reincarnation because it is directly point to no-self. -
Chi_ replied to legendary's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
In the book "More than a life" it is written how Sadhguru's past life version of him consciously planned to return back as a human being to complete his mission. Eventhough he didn't do it to prove reincarnation it seems like its possible if its true. I guess returning to complete a mission is a better reason than to prove a point about reincarnation itself. I also saw in a video eventhough I am not sure if it's authentic, that he had planned it precisely to the very womb to which he will be born in his current life so that his mission could be completed -
Leo Gura replied to legendary's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Seems like it. Tons of people report having done so. Actually the "soul" is guiding your whole life. If you want to think of it that way. It is your highest self. It's the thing which compels you to pursue spirituality and reunite with God. Without that you'd never awaken. Which is why most people never awaken: their souls are too crude and unevolved. At least that's the theory if you want to buy into reincarnation. One of the most compelling reasons for buying into reincarnation is that it explains why people have such different inclinations and attunement for spiritual work. This cannot be explained through genetics or upbringing alone. It's obvious that some people are MUCH more spiritually attuned than others from birth. The best explanation for this is past lives. The souls of the majority of mankind are quiet crude. Which explains why mankind is in such a big mess. We are NOT all the same. If you've ever wondered why you don't fit in and how other people could be so dull, materialistic, and shallow, well, here's your answer. Most folks need to live through many more lifetimes before they learn their lesson. One lifetime is just not enough. Consider the possibility that the reason you're able to do this work at all is because you've already lived through 300 lifetimes of total barbarism and stupidity. Imagine if you were Stalin in a past life. LOL. -
Leo Gura replied to legendary's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Except there is a common through-line between dreams. Your psyche is uniquely your psyche. Dreams ARE connected to your psyche. You often have repeating dreams and you dream about stuff which is related to your life experiences, although often in very loose ways. You work stuff out in your dreams. This is actually directly analogous to how reincarnation could work. There is a deeper structure which unifies all your lifetimes. This structure would be called the soul. It is like the mothership which sends down many probes to a new planet. Destruction of any probe does not harm the mothership. The mothership collects all the lessons of each dead probe and visits many different planets. The mothership itself could of course also be destroyed but that's another matter. The mothership is far more conscious and capable than any of its probes. -
Nahm replied to legendary's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I left a note which I recently found. It said, “there’s no reincarnation”. Not sure what to make of it. -
Leo Gura replied to legendary's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The problem with the "leaving a note" approach is that if you die and you have a choice to reincarnate as whatever you want, your perspective will be so much broader at that point after death that you will not care about honoring any note you left behind. You might reincarnate on some other planet in some other universe as some non-human being. Reincarnating just for the sake of demonstrating reincarnation to other humans is a really silly game. That is not the purpose of reincarnation. -
A very tricky subject indeed.
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Nahm replied to Bufo Alvarius's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Bufo Alvarius If there is infinity, it must be you. Infinity = Being. It is not ‘some number of times’, etc. It’s you, God, now. All the reincarnation, etc, etc, is just abstraction. -
@Nahm It's not obvious that it's infinite. You just imagine it to be. You are not me, and I am not you. How's that for an objection? You are limited to your perception, which is you. And I am limited to my perception, which is me. Plus, all the stories about reincarnation, blah blah blah, are added on top of that fantasy of infinity.
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Leo Gura replied to Naviy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Goovy! It's not that the machine elves are playing your life though. They would not interfere with a human's free will. That would be improper for a highly conscious being to do, defeating the whole purpose of incarnation. Also, reincarnation is more complex than simply becoming a machine elf. Free will would also be exercised in the reincarnation process. Think of it more like this: You are deciding who you want to be based on what you need to further evolve your consciousness. Becoming a machine elf would make sense IF one has fully exhausted the lessons of being a physical entity like a human. I would guess that most humans will not become machine elves because they still have much to learn about being human. -
Shaun replied to Shaun's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I am terrified of endless reincarnation and how I will have to suffer through all sorts of horrors in future lifetimes. Leo one minute says that every atom and object is a perfect design and a universe in itself and then in another video says that none of it exists and it is all an illusion. -
Forestluv replied to Shaun's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Notice the relationship between engaging in mental thought stories and the feelings experienced in the body. What is happening right Now? Here and Now - not off in la-la land of imaginative thought stories of reincarnation, nirvana and what could happen in future lives of pain and suffering. Humans seek to return home to Here and Now. It cannot be found in any other place or time. Only Here and Now. -
Anderz replied to SQAAD's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The Dalai Lama said that there is reincarnation but it's not personal. And as I see it nirvana cannot be reached because we can never reach infinity. Time is always moving forward in a single timeline that never ends. All talks about multiple timelines, time travel, several personal lifetimes, the universe reaching an end(?) and repeating itself and so on are just New Age delusions. Yesterday will never be experienced again by anybody. Instead what will happen is that we will reach eternal life here on earth. For example Christians it seems to me often fail to recognize what the Lord's Prayer says: Thy kingdom come ON EARTH as it is in heaven. It's symbolism for our next evolutionary stage as humanity. -
Anderz replied to Preetom's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The Dalai Lama actually said something similar, that there is reincarnation but it's not personal. Something like that. And I have been thinking about several people claiming to having been the same person in the past. In theory that could be possible if they can tap into the collective memory of humanity. -
How to be wise replied to Preetom's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura is it possible that someone who is deeply enlightened reincarnates into a low consciousness person, or is the level of consciousness of reincarnation always increasing? -
Forestluv replied to Pouya's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Serotoninluv One other thought that came up. If your mind insists engagement with the concept of solipsism, what would happen if you let go of identification and just explored it? Human minds are conditioned to think in opposites. It may think “I have to choose between solipsism or it’s opposite: not solipsism”. This puts a lot of stress on the mind and body. Such opposites are constructs of the mind. If your mind insists on conceptualizing it, you may find that aspects of solipsism have value and can be integrated with aspects of nonduality, reincarnation, the LOA etc. One could also observe the direct experience. When thoughts of solipsism arise, what is the experience? Are the thoughts related to feelings in the body? Which comes first; the thought or the feeling? Are the feelings bothersome? Curious? Could you convert an uncomfortable feeling of a solipsistic thought into a curious feeling? -
zeroISinfinity replied to andyjohnsonman's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There is no reincarnation.Jesus appeared right before me, He is God, Andrea is right. Ok I am done with buddhism I repented. Damn instead of becoming Heaven itself I Will go to hell and make bbq with Gautama.
