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In the most recent video Leo talked about how every life you raise your consciousness until you eventually merge with the absolute and reach nirvana and then will get bored of that, split from it and start again. If we are use the consciousness is like sand analogy, where reality is an infinite beach and we are all individual sand castles on a beach not aware we are all the sand on the beach, how can I be sure that my next life I will start from the sand castle that has just collapsed. In other words if I am doing all this consciousness work to reincarnate and have higher levels of consciousness and more chance of reaching nirvana in the next life, how can I be certain I will get the consciousness of the work I did not someone else? Or am I looking at this from the wrong paradigm as I am the whole beach so I am raising the consciousness of each grain of sand for the next rebirth? PS I dont want to take reincarnation on as a dogma so I’m still questioning it.
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Alan explained reincarnation from buddhist perspective i think. Go check out the new leo video "What is the point of life?" It can help you .
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Shadowraix replied to arlin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The latter. I don't have too much knowledge of reincarnation. But if everything is you then ultimately you contain the experience of all -
Leo says that you will experience every perspective of god. Is it that when one dies he will be reincarnated? How does reincarnation work? Or is it that since time does not exist, god has already experienced everything? Thank you!
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pluto replied to Adam M's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Serotoninluv Indeed! In a few groups i am connected with for years now have already mapped and made many drafts of how to create Activation/Ascension chambers which are primarily of crystal technology paired with sacred geometry bodies and a few other things. Similar to what ancient pyramids were used in one of the multitude of ways they were used. These technologies when done correctly, amplify/activate us on a cellular level and re-awaken disabled/dormant DNA thus enhance our natural/psychic abilities and allow us to become fully efficient energy beings and what modern science calls (junk DNA) in which we currently only have 2/12 strands active. Some newer generations have already been found with more strands active and some newborns are naturally born with more as we evolve in consciousness collectively. Thus why many of us do not require to meditate in caves for decades anymore to reach the higher states, we can do it much quicker as we are naturally far more efficient and superconductive. These are also excellent for amplifying meditation and practices which induce altered states. It is said that when all strands are active we embody the Avatar state/Christ consciousness/12D. We will be able to live as long as we desire and no longer require physical nourishment as for energy as we activate our light body in which auto transmute light > energy and free from the death/birth reincarnation cycle although i know for a fact that once you awaken, you have already broke this cycle and are already activated to some degree but there is always more fine tuning to do. We are living in amazing times, people are tapping into some awesomeness! -
Shin replied to Ponder's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I'm the reincarnation of Chuck Norris, and I laugh at your Shiva dude. I will kick him in the nutts first chance ! -
pluto replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Reincarnation is an evolutionary process for the soul-complex(so to speak). Once you awaken to your true self you break free from this cycle. Unless you choose to delay nirvana for others you will transcend into higher(more collective consciousness) existences ect.. rather than single. Higher self, Over-souls, Collective groups ect.. who are somewhat over-souls(so to speak) of planets like Earth is known as her physical body but Gaia is the soul-collective. Eventually we can/will evolve to become planets, solar systems, galaxies, ect.. yes they all are conscious and aware on levels far beyond our grasping but we cap tap/tune into this knowledge(akash) ect...Although we can never understand higher dimensional existence from a physical standpoint we can somewhat(see the book) rather than (read what's inside). Eventually as you evolve and ascend more and more to the core of creation, you finally return back to the ONE/The Absolute Center, it starts all over again on a new level, a new wave of creation. It never ends and never begins. This is why it never ends and never beings, this is how the universe works. -
We can never really die because consciousness is eternal. Fair enough. But why assume suicide wouldn't be an effective escape just because you would transition into something else thus not solving anything? This seems to imply there is some type of system, reincarnation or otherwise which makes it impossible to give up the easy way. Since god has infinite possibilities, transcendent of all laws and logic, you should be able to make the choice to completely unmanifest and "delete" yourself such that you go into the non experience of the atheists view of post death. That doesn't seem possible from our present understanding because there is nothing independent of consciousness but hey god can do anything it wants right?
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whoareyou replied to AstralProjection's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Reincarnation and hell are both illusions of the mind. Those illusions are parts of the obstacle that keeps you from realizing that you are immortal or god. To put it simply, there is no one to reincarnate and no one to go to hell. -
Inliytened1 replied to AstralProjection's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@AstralProjection in a nutshell, yes AND no. Reincarnation is just a concept. He is God living out one particular possiblity. You can become directly conscious of this. IT just goes on forever. -
AstralProjection posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I think I remember him saying that he became enlightened. Does that mean that he became immortal? What I mean by immortal is that he wouldn't have to reincarnate again. I know he doesn't believe in reincarnation but perhaps an immortal would think that. LOL -
@Zigzag Idiot That picture is pretty spot on what I was imagining <3 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Goals Day 27+28/66 Okay so I ate a quart of cookies and cream ice cream but Eddy's just does that flavor really well so what was I supposed to do.... This is my mini one week vacation before I start work, I'm probably going to smoke a lot of weed and see some friends. I could also do an acid/mushroom trip and go outside. I'm totally doing that weather permitting, I live in Wisconsin and yesterday it snowed but any other day it could go up to like 60-70. It's a surprise. Enlightenment work is going well, sometimes my emotional body just feels invincible. I sometimes wonder if I'm ever going to like seriously suffer again, in this life of course. I always end up suffering again, I'm definitely not there yet. Seems like people can only salt your own wounds, and while it's kind of being a fucking dick to salt other people's wounds if all they are going to do is suffer from it, I have really appreciated people making me lonely, making me upset. making me feel uncomfortable etc. Those are the situations that help me grow. That's not to say I make those people my friends, but I appreciate those people in the world. Also in case there is reincarnation, it may be like having to book a seat on a flight, if you don't say anything you just get random so I'm going to take the time to type out my request I'll have to make a priority list in case a few aren't open 1. Killer Whale 2. Regular Ol' Dolphin 3. Wolf 4. Hawk 5. Tiny cute monkey I was just kind of fucking around but I think it's interesting I mostly thought of social animals that are considered predators and have pack like behavior. That's probably my own current need for socialization speaking. Also I picked animals that have a lot of freedom in terms of movement. I think that's what always appealed to me about being a bird, I like spaciousness and not feeling confined in any ways. I'm sure I'd feel confined as a bird in my own way, but it's harder to see that looking up in the sky with two feet on the ground. I don't really have an explanation for tiny cute monkey, maybe that I really want to feel loved and I know bigger monkeys are kind of douche bags to each other so I was hoping being a tiny cute monkey would make everyone want to handle me with care <3 Grade B+ cause I can't eat a whole thing of ice cream and get away with it unscathed, still worth. My GPA goes down a bit though
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April 12 Chapter 246 To understand the meaning of life, you shouldn't take it for granted. And for that you need to work really hard. The spiritual purpose of life is to live in love, live in light, live in God, reflect God through life, becoming like God, spreading the good and fighting evil, reducing suffering, and contributing to bigger causes that help people and the ecosystem survive and flourish, and to contribute to branches of science to make lives better and to understand the material world better, to create beauty and peace and set order for peace, to create love, and to fight toxicity, and fortifying the ecosystem against future trouble and to live happily ever after ie in eternity and to ensure that every life has lived to its fullest potential before the last breath, that every moment of life/existence (the story of his life versus his body is alive, lives that perished how many lives we're taken) (as long as the life is alive or existing ) or breath, that is every moment of an organism's life, every living moment, every living moment of an organism's life is lived in love, peace, happiness and fulfillment so they continue unhurt through eternity and meet with the maker or God. Therefore this life is a junction or a challenge to the liver to make it safely through and come over to eternity ready and prepared for its next journey. And so every moment of your life as long as you are breathing, has to be lived in peace, love, freedom, happiness and love and not suffering. It comes down to 7 spiritual entities. The soul, the spirit, and the life force and the heart and the mind and chi or energy. And the ego. The spirit resident in the heart. The spirit being the disposition. The soul is the carrier of the spirit. The soul is like an identity. The soul takes on the qualities of the person and attributes of the person. Life force is a generic term that puts life into a body. The heart being the center of emotions. The heart being attached to the soul. The mind and the energy. The soul leaves the body and turns to spirit. The body decomposes and turns to remains. The life force is gone. The chi accompanies the spirit. The spirit lingers into eternity. The mind dissociates and accompanies the spirit. The heart (ethereal) accompanies the spirit. The soul/spirit is surrounded by chi, heart and mind. These accompany the soul/spirit in the afterlife. The soul takes on attributes of the person. But when reincarnation happens, the soul is rejuvenated within another person but still carries attributes of the older identity, memories and incidents and trauma. And continues with another identity and attributes. However the spirit is like character of the person. It's like the quality of the soul. This spirit will determine the nature of the future person. The soul will gradually shed its old identity and take on aspects of the new ego but spirit will prevail. So there are 2 fundamental aspects here. Mass and ether. Mass being physical. Ether being ethereal or the spirit part. Every mass has a corresponding Ether. The Ether of brain is mind, the Ether of soul is the spirit. The Ether of the body is chi or energy. And the ether of heart is emotion and electromagnetic field. The ether of breath is life force. When the ether is in balance, there is metamorphosis of the mass. The mass varies with the quality of the ether. The ether of the spirit or soul is the conscience. Ether of God is awareness, love and justice. The hourglass is the perfect example. As above so below. The sand in the upper part of the hourglass gradually falls into the lower part. So whatever is below just made up of what was above. The Ether influences the physical aspect of what the Ether is associated with or attached to. Practices - Swan manual, meditation, contemplation,invocation (invoking a specific wish, emotion, intention), incantation, Restfulness exercise, fortress exercise, fountain potion exercise. Mantras, prayers. Spells and incantation, Chakra healing, tarot cards, reiki and rune crystals. Also I forgot to add prayers and mantras. Specific mantras help calm the mind. Also cleansing or spiritual cleansing practice. And working on Ether or ethereal aspects like chi, emotion, thoughts, words, spells, mind or thought and conscience and awareness.
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Nahm replied to howdoistopobsessing's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I don’t know about “harm”, (with the meat comment) but you’ll be sacrificing the majority of your ability to focus. The body’s energy that could have been used for mental clarity goes to the digestive system to power through the heavier foods. Karma has absolutely nothing to do with death / reincarnation, etc. Only this life. The entirety of how you’ve perceived all of your own actions with the world. Egoic thought is what makes ‘karma’. Ultimately, there is no such thing as karma, but you may need to undo some none-the-less, to aid in quitting the mind, for the sake of the path. This overthinking you’re doing right now, about dying and being reborn - that is the cycle of birth & death. It’s happening within you, via overthinking. Enlightened, there is no overthinking, no karma, no birth & death cycles. All that was your own thought stories. Had someone never mentioned it, had you not read it and believed it, you wouldn’t even be thinking about it at all. On the other, it can be a useful map. Don’t over emphasize it though. Move on. Find a guru. You’d be very surprised what you might experience (guru wise) from taking yoga and reiki classes somewhere. Pathwise, there is a limit to what can be realized with other people still in the picture. Then of course, there is an apparent limit to what can be lived in terms of the mystical abilities etc, without other people. God is so perfect and sneaky. Imagine being the most enlightened person on earth, and then keeping your mouth shut and listening to a yoga or reiki instructor. There are new experiences there. Unbelievable expereinces. -
Amber replied to EternalForest's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I actually find this an intelligent question. It did interest me a lot, too. It can be answered on different levels. From the general knowing, from the mind level experience or from beyond the mind - no you experience. Speaking of the NDE - through the tunnel, reliving every experience of one's life, knowing very well what you did right or wrong, and you are the judge of yourself and the message: don't waste this life, it's a tiny line between life and death- in the sense that one can lose it in an instant, stupidly. Into the light, peace and everything....and there is a sense of presence -I ness, identity, although only presence. In other experiences, awakenings, I was washed clean, purified and it was clear to me that there's no karma (there are consequences in this 3D world, but not karma in the classical sense). In another one it was understood that all happens at the same time - in this instant - past, now and future and what we call different incarnations - all happen simoltaneously at he same time...It's like there are many realities happening simoltaneously and one could almost get trapped in a different reality. There was still a sense of me there- so I consider these mind experiences... When one goes beyond the mind - there's no you there- no identity, no you/me, no mind to bring back memories, just consciousness, Home ...and nothing compares to it... It becomes clear, upon return, that the mind creates our body and physical reality and that truly only consciousness exists, all the rest is a mirage, Maya, it is not real. So in that sense there's no creation, no birth, no death. As my ex teacher said just before his death, when people were crying and begging him not to leave the body form: "Where could I go?" It is not possible to understand unless one experiences that consciousness is all there is and alway here. But on the 3D level the world, birth, life, death...are percieved as real. So I would say that it makes a difference how one dies - with or without identity. If the mind identity is still present, it creates new body, new world... I am unable to explain why but I feel that it is important to - through life - prepare for death - transition and that the last thought/s is/ are very important. Some very good material on spirit forms and reincarnation is found in Billy Meier's material. Blessings. -
I look for the source, before I look at someone's interpretation. As raw as you can get. Also if you look at changing your metaphysic or lack there of, it will change how you look at everything. ------------------- Look for used book stores, as a good source: Charity or Thrift shops, Ebay can be good. If you get the Annual subscription to Audible it works out quite cheap. If you can maintaining concentrating better reading do that. Whatever best suits your time constraints. -------------------------- Instead of Carl Sagan. Copernicus. Instead of Sigmund Freud. Meister Eckhart 1260-1328. A nod to (literal reincarnation...…..) from Eckhart Tolle..... Instead of Alan Watts. Lao Tzu. Tao Te Ching. ( a short book, easy to read, this is a good translation http://www.with.org/tao_te_ching_en.pdf ) If you want to listen to OSHO's books and speech, audible is an excellent place. I do not recommend OSHO, I would be very careful listening to him, as well as all public spiritual gurus. ---------------------- Otherwise just listen and read how and what pleases and you enjoy the most. Collective Ego can be essential to survival. Going hardcore may not be a good idea.
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legendary replied to MM1988's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I once saw this kid in India: partially handicapped, no clothes on his body, no shoes. But yet, he was happy & smiling while playing with his friends and running around on the field. When he grows up and finds out that kids in the first world countries have it so easy, he'll get mad at God and crave all the fancy clothes and toys that the rich kids have. That would be his suffering, not the fact that he was born poor. Didn't Buddha say that desire is the root cause of all suffering? The ego is the real prison. It would be incorrect to quantify the level of suffering based on the material amenities that one has. Secondly, I have come to the conclusion that there is some truth to the whole karma and reincarnation thing in the relativistic sense. So the best thing to do for people like us would be to not squander this opportunity to help the world and get Self-realized. -
devonrexcatz replied to devonrexcatz's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
All great responses...thankyou. I suppose I like the idea of past lives/reincarnation/Akashic Records, etc because I don't want to believe that 'here and now' is all there is and ever will be. I suppose one day we'll all find out...or won't. Hmm. -
legendary replied to devonrexcatz's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Based on my discussions with enlightened masters, there is some truth to past lives and reincarnation. But what's more important is your learning and growth, It does not matter whether it was a hallucination or a flashback, Contemplate on what you can learn from it and whether there's something you need to let go of. -
@Sharp Id suggest attempting to overdose on your 5-MeO, that would give you the whole shebang but also a chance to come back! You don't wanna risk reincarnation, do you?
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Alex replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Conciousness is the bedrock of reality. You are fundamentally conciousness! So is everthing else before and after you. The container is always the same just its content changes. Reincarnation can be understood as all beeing that is outside your personal experience, contained by the same bedrock of conciousness. -
Schahin replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes brother, I think the human being in general is very curious, otherwise he wouldn't have discovered the whole earth and inhabiting it also So yes I like the idea of having the goal of having less ideas and being more in the present, but stil I am very curious to find out what happened right before the sense of self came and I was created and born and what will happen after our story ends. Maybe having people who experience non-duality have a sense of understanding reincarnation. I don'T really know what to make of all the answers this far^^ Not sure if the goal is to be a pale skinned light eyed human, and how that is achievable. I am not pale skinned and couldn't imagine myself that way. The goal is to love yourself, still doesn'T answer the question what happened before birth and how a reincarnation could occur. -
What was before our birth, what will be after our death?
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I have still not mastered english, so I´m sorry for the "bad writing". Before Sleeping Last night, I´ve spent hours and hours on a antropology research I´m doing to college, which made me exhausted and think it would be better to sleep right after I´ve finished it. With that, I skipped my "nightly" meditation and contemplative stretching, and, as usual, talked to my girlfriend, said good night and jumped right onto bed, quickly falling asleep. Dream I dreamt I was at home with my girlfriend. We were just chilling out in the front of my house. Suddenly, the phone rings... It already had a misterious feeling in the air before I could pick it up, but it got stronger when I answered and a kind of a spooky short 8bit melody played on it´s speaker mode, so my girlfriend heard it... My body was tense already... We looked at each other and she seemed to have understood the significance of that, she said: "They´re coming". Somehow, after she said that, I understood too. It was a signal of some people coming over our house to murder us. So, quickly, I started madly acting, but I don´t know why the fuck my reaction was to turn out the lights of the house. Maybe it was to pretend there´s no one home, maybe to hide and seek with the murderer(s), I really don´t know. It made perfect sense at the moment. While I was turning the lights out, my girlfriend went to catch our cat in the front door and got a few feet out of our house, so I lost sight of her. Still, while turning the lights out like a mad man, I heard a car rapidly parking at our front door, so I looked over from where I was standing and I´ve had a glance of a man getting out of the car vigourously, and holding a gun... I went to catch a knife, praying the he wouldn´t make my girlfriend a target, since she was out of the house, and they were, supposedely, focusing on who´s in the house. Then... while catching a knife , two shots were fired outside. Quickly, and without a proper reaction, I closed myself in the closest room, and I was certain: my girlfriend was dead. My world crashed...The person I love most, and that loved me the most, in my whole life, was dead, probably viscerally lying on the street, like an insignificant object. Her sweet body transfigurated... adulterated by a fucking stranger... My existence was gradually, and fastly, getting dettached of any meaning, while I knew my time was briefly coming too. I looked at my own existence in the now, knowing that the enjoyment of the existence of her love and her touch would never be materialized again in it. It was forever finished, like a bad joke. Indignant, I considered another life, where I could see her again, a "reincarnation" of awareness, occasionally experiencing another "Hugo"(my name), which has identical destiny - to meet her again. It couldn´t be it. This couldn´t be what the universe has causally conspired. But, sadly, it was. All this emotional process happened in an instant. I was groundless. Confronting awareness and existence as a dead being. Nothing mattered anymore. After some seconds, I just wanted to die, so I kind of skipped the dream timeline to the moment I´d die in it. Waking up I was still immersed in the dream emotion when I woke up, but I was alert like I´ve never been before, looking at the ceiling, still confronting existence. I felt I was dead, although the experience was still happening. It was like I was there, but, at the same time, I was not. No thoughts at all were coming up, and I´ve never experienced such stillness of mind, which, honestly, was kind of scary. I thought I´ve acessed mental stillness before, but, after experiencing this, NO. This was certainly the only and first time I´ve had real mental stillness. My body was effortlessly static. All I could do was to "confront" existence, and not even that, since I wasn´t doing anything, it was happening effortlessly. I could still feel the limits of my body and skin, but they no longer seemed to be the real limits, like it always would be. It was like I was in a much bigger, although empty, experience, and the borders of my body was a fraction of its "length". In another way, the body borders was not the end road of the spacial awareness, it was kind of a midway. I can´t seem to explain it any better. Tears drop out of my eyes. My heart was madly fast, as I was astonished with what was now. In a few moments, my mind started to manifest again, and I interpreted the experience as, maybe, enlightenment happening, or some degree of it. So I tryied to focus even more, consciously, looking at it as a opportunity to awakening. Sadly, the experience was vanished in a few minutes. And I was left with a huge fear emotion in my body, although there was no specific object of fear, it was just fear. I don´t know what that was, but if it was some facet of enlightenment, it was not liberating. It was, in some degree, scary. Empty empty. Maybe the huge negative emotions of the dream distorted the experience, I don´t know. What I know is, I can recall the scene, but I can´t recall the experience, forcefully. When I try, it kinda feels like "I can get into it" again, but it won´t. Thank you for taking your time to read it. What do you guys think of it?
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now is forever replied to SQAAD's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Shin is this a question about your profile picture? keep the osho! at least you can always say you are his reincarnation to get away with copyright infringement!