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Can anyone explain, how in their perception this whole thing might work? When you die, you look for another life to be conscious of? How the transition might work? According to the reincarnation theory you get to another "level", higher soul, but how would that look in practice?

You guys asked @Leo Gura some really good questions in this thread. Well done! I have complied all the amazing nuggets of wisdom here. I wish we could get more information on the nature of the metaphysical part of reality, and less about the end goal (Godhead) itself. How is the Illusion structured? How does the architecture of the Dream look like? Where does Karma/reincarnation fit it? How to become better at manifesting material success by manipulating meta-aspects of reality? I'm sure psychedelics would allow access to these bits of information, that model helped him before, I don't see any reason it wouldn't now. Compilation 1:

If you realize your permanent self while you are here, nothing will change when you die... If you don't, you will still be bound to the wheel of time and reincarnation.

actually, looking at it more closely, I don't think people are scared that they will die when the movie dies. I think they are scared about what the movie will play after this movie stops. If you go ask atheists what happens after death, they say just a black rectangle will occur (which is a little bit true). Go ask Christians and they say heaven and hell. Go ask Asian people and they say reincarnation. No one actually thinks they will stop after the movie stops. Or that they will cease to exist (except for a few esoteric western philosophers). Everyone knows the movie keeps playing after this movie stops. The question that everyone is worried about is, what will that next movie be, and whether they will like it.

It’s not wether you believe in it or not it’s just true? Are new forms not made each day? Are there not thousands of babies born a day? Tbh infinite amounts of living beings in the universe are created and day. All of those are you. That’s what reincarnation is.

I want to get that book but can't find it here in the west, what dose he say about reincarnation?

The problem with reincarnation is the term incarnation, which falls under the materialist mindset that consciousness resides in the body. (Incarnation literally means "embodied in flesh.") The truth of course is that the body resides in consciousness - not consciousness residing in the body. So if incarnation is not accurate, then re-incarnation is also not accurate. On the other hand, first-person consciousness has no opposite, so death (as state) is perfectly impossible. Therefore there has to be some sort of eternal continuation of consciousness, which is likely to involve fluctuations of state.

Yes but spiritual masters of no duality like ramana maharshi or shadguru talk about reincarnation. I'd like to know what is the theory because non duality and reincarnation seems no compatible

As per my understanding and being around a lot of Hindus, I can tell that the only purpose why reincarnation in the literal sense was propagated was to make people believe that they will pay for their crimes in their next life so that people have some kind of fear and hence order prevails in the society. The true meaning of reincarnation is simply that what we collectively do today affects the world tomorrow.

Reincarnation, or resurrection? As an aside, though related to flesh.. CORONAVIRUS CARNIVOROUS An interesting coincidence!

It's weird to hear people talk about Leo as a new age teacher. Most of his latest stuff is yellow, turqouise, some green. But he has none of those new age vibes like talking about reincarnation, chakras, reiki, crystals.

I have a memory of Christopher Titmuss saying (on the subject of life after death) "who lives, who dies?" meaning that the best way to find out what's going to happen to us in the future, is to find out who we are now. Until I fully bottom that out, I'm just speculating and theorising. Maybe we only find out the truth about reincarnation when we're fully enlightened and (if you believe the Eastern religions) don't need to do it any more, ha ha!

But who reincarnate? There is an infinite being, itsnt it? Well, who knows but in an awakening experience looks quite sure. And we are shapes limiting that infinite and no more, we are like concepts, filters, points of wievs. So when that "I" get finished, it's done, no reincarnation, it was only a shape, an illusion that it's going to be dissolved in the infinity. But why shadguru and mostly of spiritual masters talk about reincarnation?

There is belief in reincarnation in eastern religious philosophies of Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism and Taoism. This is also an esoteric belief in some streams of Judaism, in Druid religion of the Gauls, in ancient greek philosophy as well, and some sects of sufism. Reincarnation is also an intrinsic part of some northern Native American and Inuit traditions. The research and books of well-established psychiatrists Dr.Brian Weiss, Dr. Michael Newton, Dr.Ian Stevenson citing case studies of reincarnation have given enough evidence that reincarnation is not a mere Oriental theory but may have its foundations in fact. Here are two articles dealing with past life remembrance... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1209795/Reincarnated-Our-son-World-War-II-pilot-come-life.html https://www.reincarnationresearch.com/japanese-soldier-reincarnates-as-a-woman-lesbian/

If there is no reincarnation why Buddhist spend their whole life mediating? Why not enjoy human ego?

Its an interesting topic. I have people close to me who are more 'spiritually tuned' than I am who have had visions of 'past lives' that more highlighted lessons they've needed to learn in more than one lifetime. I would say there is something to the idea of reincarnation for growth and raising consciousness.

Its mind bugging to think about it lol If reality is infinite, doesn't that mean that literally anything is possible? And if so, wouldn't there be a universe (with lower case U) where for example a tyrannical mythological god truly exists and he is eternal and all powerful and maybe he has a version of hell that exist physically, and if people don't follow his commands he will make them suffer for eternity after they die or whatever... That sounds crazy and scary tbh , also is reincarnation something possible? And if we will keep reincarnating forever, mustn't that include a possibility where we will inevitably reincarnate in such a universe where we would experience eternal suffering that never ends? Is that even possible, to reincarnate in a form that is eternal? I can't find an answer to this anywhere I hope Leo can answer this mind bugging question.

Yes, from my pov there is the illusion of having free will and actually have free will. I think that reincarnation happens when there's the illusion of something separate controlling you/your dream. But once you break the code, you should have infinite free will instead of identifying with the finite lifeform or dream character. Every moment is infinity anyway so evolution doesn't actually need shape-shifting to infinity. Only form identifying with form goes through each number which is nothing but a misinterpretation of the reflection of the true Self... like in the story of Narcissus.

The human ego is also a belief. I was talking about the eternal Self. The ego' story is that death is final and this is just a ride into nothingness. Have you ever experienced death to know that you won't come back to life in another form? We forget many things in this life, so the reincarnation theory seems plausible to me. Yes, it is one of the explanations and you can call it a belief but it is better than "death is the end".

You're assuming I was referring to you. I wasn't. On what you actually did say, I was referring to this: Reincarnation is a belief.

There was a new Your Mate Tom with a crackpot guy talking about God and Jesus and whatnot, they made multiple digs are Leo, which came off as very childish and irrational. Why can't these people see the truth of non-duality It's right in front of them but they continue to be completely wrapped in their thoughts. They also claim to not be new-agey but they're talking about Astral Realms, Reincarnation and Spirit Realms. These childish beliefs make me disheartened at the path so many people are going down.

Might of took that comment in the opposite way it was intended, and so it seems like a contradiction. There would not be a ‘why’ prior to a ‘reincarnation’. ‘Why’ is a thought. If & when you do contemplate reincarnation, leave electro beam out of it. Electro beam thinks why electro beam & somebody else. (No offense ) If meditation is the answer...meditation is the answer. Meditation is the self which makes up all kinds of dualistic stories apparently, but there are none in meditation, or we could say they are all in meditation, as the infinite potential of any possible story. The ‘bullshit’ could not possibly be more crystal clear. It is the only ‘thing’ which is clear in the place. Contextualize the shit outta it, if you like. Which you don’t like. Which is precisely it’s clarity. How won’t come from the thinking, nor ‘other people concepts’ (which is your concept - if it is) but from the source of “thinking”. Another great contemplation imo, if interested, what if everything you’re hearing is fundamentally, wrong? (As not to be confused with intentionally wrong) How, would you even know.

(OBEs: Out of Body Experiences include: LDs: Lucid Dreams, APs: Astral Projections and STs: Soul Travels) I bet I've listed some you haven't heard of: Psychedelics: You can materialize and take 5-Me0-DMT in lucid dreams and become enlightened or take sth like N,N DMT and have a fun trip. Meet ups: If you are advanced, you can go into other people's dreams or meet other travelers in dreams, APs and STs It is possible to induce full OBEs in less than 10 seconds. If you are able to go into the hypnotic Esdaile State and anchor it, you can enter it in a few seconds, and if you know what you're doing, you can relatively easiliy induce OBEs from there. For example Marco Lorenz can do that. It is possible to pull someone out of their physical body while they are sleeping. Marco Lorenz and Jonathan Dilas used to this with the participans of their seminars (I believe Jonathan is still doing it). During the night they would pull them out of their physical bodies, then astral travel together, and on the next morning share their experience and notice a huge overlap. You can talk with your guiding spirits, real aliens, deceased people, spirits,... Splitting your consciousness: You can split your consciousness in LDs and APs (and probably STs as well), thus be able to inhabit many independent bodies having independent experiences at once. This allows things like inhabiting a male and female body and then having sex with yourself. And most importantly, it allows you to experience far more in the same time. If you have an OBE for 5 minutes and inhabit 5 bodies, you experience 25 minutes Time Dilation: - In LDs: You can deliberately dilate time in dreams and thus experience for example 1 hour of dream-time in 5 minutes of Earth-time. It is possible but very difficult. - In APs: Time is relative. You can for example project to a place where 1h Earth-time equals 5min or 5h. For example Marco Lorenz once projected to a paralel reality and stayed there for 6 months while only 8 hours passed in Earth-time. (video is in german) Here I wrote in more detail about splitting consciousness and time dilation: OBEs during the whole night. Usually when someone has an OBE it is during the day or when you are in REM sleep. So you usually have alpha or theta brain waves. It is generally believed that you can't have OBEs during SWS (Slow Wave Sleep / deep sleep, when you have delta brain waves, 0.5-4hz). I'm not 100% sure yet but I believe OBEs are also possible during SWS, here are my reasons: I have heard several people say/write that it is possible and that they have done it Tibetan monks are able to stay aware during the whole night, including SWS. They (including the Dalai Lama) are aware of Awareness, thus a nondual state. So if they can be aware of Awareness then it should also be able to project onto a plane with a body. Soul Travles (STs) are said to happen when your brainwaves are in 0-0.5hz, that is even lower than what happens during deep sleep. So it's not only that it seems that OBEs are possible during low brainwaves, but that certain OBEs, STs are only possible with very low brainwaves. That means you should be able to project the whole night, 8 hours each day, that makes 29 200 hours after 10 years. 99.999% of people waste that time. Extra Time: If we combine the last 3 points: Splitting consciousness + time dilation + OBEs during the whole night we get an incredible amount of time which can be used for all sorts of things. Soul Travel: I don't know much about it but it is said to be far more epic than astral travel You can explore our actual physical universe and the past. This for example allows you to check in your direct experience which conspiracy theories are true and which are false. But you would need to be extremely careful, because it is very easy to see something which is not actually there but created or distorted by you. So you would need to be very advanced and do a lot of cross referencing of what other advanced OBEers report. Future. You can view probable future scenarios of earth. And you can see how different timelines of your life would develop depending on what choices you make. So for example you can preview the most likely scenario of what will happen in a week or in 10 years if you now choose job A versus job B. Explore paralell Realities Explore all of Creation. You are God so you should be able to explore all of Creation, be it past present or future. Escape the Matrix: All advanced OBEers I studied say similiar things about that topic. Their investigations made them come to the conclusion that we live in a kinda simulation, a matrix. The Matrix includes many astral planes, so after death, you are still within the Matrix. First you go through a tunnel and a white light, then you meet deceased people and some Guides, then after a while you get an amnesia shot and then are sent back to earth. That's the reincarnation cycle. Aliens created the matrix so that souls can have a certain experience, like being human. (There are obviously many many more Matrixes). All advanved OBE practioners I looked into (John Kreiter, Don Juan, Carlos Castenada, David McCready, Jonathan Dilas, Marco Lorenz,...) agree that this is the case, even scientists and people like Elon Musk believe we live in a simulation. Now, the matrix was actually a good thing because it allows souls to have a particular experience, but many researchers believe (including the OBEers John Kreiter, Don Juan, Carlos Castenada and Jonathan Dilas) that it was hijacked by malevolent aliens a couple of thousand years ago. If you know what they have planned for the upcoming years, it might be worth considering to leave the matrix. There are several possibilites: Don't fall for the Light Trap. Instead of going into the light after death, you search for a hole (which looks black) in the artifically set up grid and escape through it. OBEing allows you to verify for yourself whether this is true and it will probably be easier to escape if you are an OBEer, but it is definitely not necessary You create a double body while still alive and make it more and more solid (through having OBEs with it) till you can transfer your whole consciousness to it and then just leave your physical body behind for good and then try to escape the Matrix. Read John Kreiters books: The magnum opus and the way of the projectionist. Dissociation. Jonathan Dilas talks about that as another option. (you can google-translate his blog: Matrixblogger.de) Become enlightened. Religions tell us that you break the reincarnation cycle by becoming enlightened. It is believed that the soul will continue experiencing, it will upgrade to a different plane. The question is whether this plane is within or outside the matrix. Acashic Records. You will have access to the acashic records, thus to all knowledge become enlightened. Tibetan monks use dream yoga (LDs) to become enlightened Inhabit and control another real body. You can temporarily go inside someone else's body and live in it, as if it were your own. This is definitely possible. This usually happens in form of an agreement. 2 beings temporarily exchange their bodies so that they can explore the world of the other being. For example if an alien from another universe wants to explore earth, it can astral project to earth, but it can do more things with a physical body than with an astral body. If it happens involuntarily then this could be considered demonic possesion (if someone is demonically possessed they usually still have some control though) Download skills. Leo said that when you are super conscious, you would be able to just download skills. I believe you don't even need to be super conscious, it's enough to be an advanced OBEer. Do magick during OBEs which will affect your day-life and physical reality. Healing: By asking your subconscious, or aliens or guiding spirits, you are able to figure out the root cause of a disease and then tackle it (in case it has a psychological root) Have long whole-body orgasms And then we have of course the more well-known benefits: Personal Development: In dreams you are directly in contact with your subconscious. So this is obviously very valuable for any personal development work Fun Practice any skill Practice the Law of Attraction and make it more effective ... I believe OBEs are the key to mastering all of life. And the key to OBEs is deep hypnosis like the Esdaile State. I will soon make a post about that.

i have 3 questions. what is the meaning of, outsdie world does not exist without a perceiver.. world exist without me.. isnt it?? when someone astral projecting.. what is happening? is mind projecting outside of body and experiencing astral world? if it's true, what happen to conciousness when i projecting outside? is conciousness projects with me or no? if it doesn't then how can i able to perceive astral world? what is sansara and reincarnation ? is rebirth real? my ego will born again and again because of karma? if anyone can answere.. it's great.. because im going crazy?

sorry if im annoying you. im coming from buddhist culture. here most of us believing in reincarnation, and sansara ( Saṃsāra "Sanskrit, Pali; also samsara", in Buddhism is the beginningless cycle of repeated birth, mundane existence and dying again. Samsara is considered to be dukkha, unsatisfactory and painful, perpetuated by desire and avidya (ignorance), and the resulting karma.) what is your opinion about this?