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Damn, yeah. Ok I think it is starting to make sense, wow yeah, that's simple really. Fuck, I think I got it on some shallow level because now I am questioning why there should not be reincarnation. Reincarnation is right here, right now, it's not against my direct experience. my direct experience proves it. Damn.

If you understand yourself as an infinite being who was never born and never dies, and can only "be," then reincarnation is perfectly in line with it. You might be an alien in another universe next dream, who knows.

I don't know about the soul since it isn't in my experience as well. What I do know is the direct experience free of beliefs. Sadly I have no experience such as even AP and such to verify any soul stuff or reincarnation or chakras etc.

@aurum I don’t agree with this based on my experience. I’ve had multiple God realizations that did not directly address the topic of reincarnation whatsoever. Realizing you are God does not somehow answer all questions you might have. That is a separate experience typically.

Well, the obvious answer is to die. That’s the only way to truly verify whether reincarnation exists or not. Anyone telling you otherwise is bullshitting themselves and you.

You are looking at reincarnation the wrong way. Reincarnation is happening all around you, every thing that exists is god manifesting itself into form. God is manifesting into and through you, through me, through all rocks, ants and leaves. Your soul is no different than my soul, we share the same soul. Every human and animal that has lived, lives and will live, its just one singular soul, reincarnating infinitely.

Question what experience do you have before you were born? There is no experience of time before you are born and suddenly you were there. A cosmic sea of infinity and a consciousnesses emerged and became aware. Now imagine that when you die you feel like going to sleep. Your body will slowly lose all the higher functions, complex thinking will shift to just feeling without thought/concepts. You are not your brain and all clusters of cells will experience their own individual deaths. The body will sense that oxygen is depleting and start to tingle and warm up eventually moving towards a state of non-feeling like a sleeping body part. Your body is slowly dissolving and it is peaceful because your worries only happen when the brain is still fighting to maintain it's concepts and ego that wants to survive. The moment you surrender and give in to becoming one with what always had been all worries fade away and you merge with the experience of grandness and Reunion. It feels like that mind that has always so desperately been fighting has now given in and you are coming home to the ethernal. And now knowing that everyone will be with you maybe you can accept death more easily. Now your mind and body have dissolved into infinity. You are back at the place before you were born, timeless. Here comes the part of belief, whoever you were, what you life was about, you must have faith that if you strip everything away and become one you will not be gone but one thing remains. The observer that experiences nothingness is who will always be present. This idea that you will be waiting before waking up is at the core of reincarnation. Now many religions portray their own cultural images and feelings onto this subject but I fully convinced that you should strip away any cultural ideas, these might only be relevant to your early stage in death as you still identify with these concepts and get feeling of guidance until the conceptual thinking has fully dissolved. You have been waiting all this time, timelessly waiting, and now you are here. Where did you come from, what is your intention to keep walking forward and who will you become? Remember that wherever you are you will be at home. Your mind will always give you reasons to suffer but that's because you don't believe or know in who your are unconditional. The fear of something is worse that the thing itself, so be fearless, be mindful and live with feeling and not the mind who tries to conquer and own everything. Live a mindful life, don't get lost in the abyss of fear, unnecessary stress and delusion. You know what to do.

Some people/religions assume there is a reincarnation loop, that only ends with enlightenment. Other people/religions assume there is an afterlife, an earthly heaven with trees flowers etc, or an multiple astrals. A different interpretation is a formless pure light/love interpretation of becoming God. I really really hope that none of those is the case. It seems to me that death is simply the cessation of every "thing". I'm okay with that. I am also not sure about the no-thing-ness. Because as far as I saw into it, life is a dream, and waking up from the illusion by dying might mean that there is a "place" with more substance. Maybe ego death is not the same as actual dying. However it's just a memory for me. As far as my interpretation goes is that this pure consciousness incarnates again and again, but does my perspective incarnate? I don't think so, and hope this isn't the case. A drop goes into the ocean and an after being mixed up an other drop is born out of the ocean. So consciousness reincarnates, but not perspectives. Some people claim that after death we can decide to come back or not. I would love to hear the interpretation of someone who considers himself enlightened enough to get it.

Yesterday something came up. I already knew I had mild anxiety for a few years, but damn, I realised I am afraid of everything. I also of course believe my worldview to be true. I fear the known bad things in life, like torture accidents pain etc. I also fear the unknown "bad things" in life, like something happening that I couldn't have imagined. I fear dying and death, and I fear the possibly endless reincarnation loop, karma and afterlife-hell. I fear becoming insane and interpreting a mental disorder with awakening. I fear uncertainity and not-knowing. I fear time and timelessness. I kind of know that all those fears come from mildly traumatic life experiences, but a part of me believes this worldview to be true. Suffering waiting to happen. I simply don't know what to do with those things that come up, I heard this is a normal process but it kind of feels like I am doing something wrong. I might contemplate about my worldview. Especially about the things I don't want to look at. Any tips?

@hyruga We discussed the topic of reincarnation just a couple of days ago, here's the thread

This has the same problem than reincarnation. Who goes to the hell? Must be the ego. But the ego is illusory, it's formed in this life, is like a clothing that cover the being. But maybe it have a permanence after death.

It's real at stage Purple. At Blue, it turns into Karma. Or perhaps the other way around, I'm not sure. Green reincarnation is the law of conservation.

You really don't need to bring 'souls' and woo woo beliefs into the equation. We know as a matter of fact that the universe is constantly reincarnating. Transition from one form into another. So all humans are really the same being. The universe taking apparently different forms tho. So that's reincarnation. Every new born is you reincarnating.

Yeah I think it's obvious what Karma is from a oneness view point. If you are the same being in every being. If you are beheading a chicken.. You are the human who's beheading the chicken and the chicken that's getting beheaded simultaneously. So instant karma. It's not a process in time and doesn't require reincarnation because it's hard for us to make sense of how time is illusory and our relative notion of how the universe works are not what's absolutely true.

@Shanmugam In ‘Conversations with God’, God says that Jesus is a reincarnation of a person who had, in a previous life, finished his awakening process, but had decided to come back for the sake of his fellow men.

Reincarnation is real. You'd need to understand what reincarnates though. What is born? What dies?

@Javfly33 My condolences. Ime; 'reincarnation' is something one can experience directly. I resonate with the word 'resurrection', too. However; I still choose to live as if this was my one and only life. One and only chance.

Nothing is real. Everything is nothing. Therefore, everything is as real as nothing. Dream it up and there it is. (I made all that up to highlight how finicky the word 'real' is....) I don't understand reincarnation honestly because that implies life and death, and I don't understand those concepts.

It's a mystery to me if objects of consciousness like memories reincarnate. But consciousness has no properties at all, so the thing that disappears is the same thing that appears through every being. I however am 90% sure that visual memories of ancestors are in your genome. (Epigenetics proved it with fears). Reincarnation of memories without genetics... I am not sure.

My 3 year old son told me that he hadn’t learned Thai as a second language, he’s always known it. He claimed that he was a Thai man previously and had died when he was 44. He occasionally got excited when he recognised a place that we’d never been before. I didn’t probe him as I didn’t know anything of spirituality until very recently. So I’d be inclined to say reincarnation is a real thing that’s experienced.

@The Lucid DreamerDreamerDreamDreamerDreamerDDreamerDreamerDreamDreamerDrea Woah loved your message. I think you got a solid point. My idea of reincarnation seems it comes from a finite and egocentric point of view, which of course is fundamentally false . Especially loved the parts about "you would have to start living lives at some point" if reincarnation is real, which makes sense. Anyways I guess is something I need a much profound awakening to understand. But thanks all for the messages, also for all the people saying sorry! I must confess my relationship with my father was kind of nasty, so it hasn't been a tough news for me. But i still appreciate the sensibility of this forum of course! Thanks guys ??

Sorry to hear about your loss, bro. Even our "dream" selves, and those we care about, are worthy of being honored. On reincarnation, nobody knows for sure. I find it plausible, but don't know, and don't trust anyone that claims to know. The closest thing I've seen to evidence are the near-death experiences of people that seem credible. If you haven't seen this, I highly encourage watching it, especially given your question:

@Javfly33 I'm sorry to hear that and wish you great strength. Reminds me of Spira's screen-analogy to consciousness. In that analogy your father would be like a character in a movie. In reality he is of course the screen, pretending to be some particular character and when this character dies, then his consciousness doesn't go anywhere (because it was nowhere to begin with). The screen (consciousness) is nowhere and therefore can't go anywhere. @Javfly33 Concerning reincarnation: to be (re)born or to die is to identify with a certain pattern/form. Let's look at a river. "The river" as such doesn't exist, it is a constant flux (hence it's true nature is emptiness/shunyata). As the ancient philosopher Heraklit said "Pantha Rhei" - "everything flows". The moment you identify this pattern as "the river", it is born. But because it ("the river") is always changing, it is also in a constant process of dying. This is the eternal cycle of (re)birth and death: Samsara. Birth and death are identical, because the moment you say "there it is!" - it's gone. Here's another example. Look at the flame of a candle. We say "there is the flame!", whereas in reality, there is no flame, only a hot stream of burning wax. "The flame" as a pattern/form that you could identify as such is of course an illusion - therefore Samsara is just an illusion. And as our last example, let's look at the ocean: there aren't any waves, appearing and disappearing. There's just the Ocean - Nirvana! playing and pretending to be Samsara.

My sense is that there are many levels of manifestation, not just unmanifested vs. manifested. When we die, there seems to be a continued packet of personality, which you can call a ghost, a karmic imprint, or whatever name you choose, which still exists, within its own level of manifestation. Ancient Indian spirituality recognizes this, through the concepts of samsara and reincarnation. Ultimate reabsorption into the unmanifested doesn't happen until paranirvana. But these are only concepts, so I take them with a grain of salt. Donald Hoffman has some interesting ideas on this. Also, there are many instances of near death experiences and supernatural occurrences, some of which seem credible. I have glimpsed some of this, but can't say that I completely understand it. I saw it as a child, denied it as a scientist, and now readmit its possibility.

A cure is when you simply get rid of the entire health problem. For example, a surgery that successfully removes all the cancerous cells. In which case all the symptoms have ended. Healing on the other hand, is a process that, whilst it works on the health problem, also inevitably changes every aspect of your life. Healing can even include death. For example, someone who is suffering from cancer and is doing healing can even die from that cancer. In which case, the healing journey continues even after death, onto the soul’s next reincarnation.