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That's awesome, just the right kind of trippy, thanks for brightening my evening! Somehow I made the cut Guess you used alien intelligence if you really learned to edit like that in a few hours. I accessed that shit once, and holy fuck was it easy to learn human stuff in minutes though hyper-holistic understanding, but I was too busy being amazed and didn't actually retain anything lol Love how everyone got a fitting role, i.e. DocWatts as the teacher

I think he wrote a blog post about how he has a different understanding of conscoiusness. I could be absolutely wrong about this, but i think he said that in Buddhism they experience nonduality by confronting the void as they go down (?) in consciousness and his method is more like becoming more and more conscious. As you can see, i cant really recall how he said it. He also talked about recently how human enlightenment is conformist. I hope im not misquoting him too bad or giving false meaning to what he said, it would be nice if he @Leo Gura answered this, im curious too. If it is about how he had many deep enlightenment experiences that goes beyond any spiritual teachings, i dont doubt him, but i would just like to say that there is no way to tell how far other masters went. It could be that they could not communicate it or did not see it reasonable to try. Leo took down his solipsism video too and as far as i know his most serious communication about his alien consciousness experience was a forum post.

Bye guys, i cant take being here anymore. Leo's vibe and stances as a teacher are just too harsh for me. What he said in the monkey torture video thread was the last straw; the fact that you simply have to accept that you will go through all kinds of torture for eternity just for the sake of it, its simply unnacceptable to me that this is the best idea that God has and that reality is this way. Theres no rhyme or reason about it. Im already suicidal and if there is no consequence to my action in the eternal sense, which is the case if there is just infinite reincarnation, there is absolutely no reason not to kill myself right now, maybe there will be some karma but that means absolutely nothing if you will just be reincarnating forever as everything imaginable anyway. Basic personal development is also pretty much over for me due to health issues, i cant date or socialize for the most part, which is the biggest driver of my nihilism and suicidal ideation. I simply can't fathom the fact i have to suffer all this bullshit for absolutely no reason, if there is infinite reincarnation there is absolutely no meaning to any of your suffering or anything at all, including any awakening, since you are bound to fall asleep again, also there is an infinite depth to awakening that can never be reached, I mean Leo claimed to have had the deepest awakening 5 years ago, which he now dismisses as "human", even though he claimed in that awakening he transcended all notions of being human etc. Why should we believe this alien stuff is the final station now? It made me realize i fell into the trap of believing his stuff, when , it is all super contradictiory, another example of this is that in the 30 day 5meo video he said that in his final days of tripping he discovered a "2nd dimension" of awakening, what is that even supposed to mean, he never even mentioned it after that video, when you would think such a thing would be absolutely massive in consequence to metaphysics. It all just feels very snake oily looking back on it. Hence I will soon be converting to Islam, it makes the most sense to adapt that worldview, precisely because as humans we know nothing, but realize the infinite potential of reality and the eternity of the soul, if you only know those things Islam makes the most sense imo, it also makes sense of the suffering since this life is seen as a test, to eventually potentially make you reach infinite liberation and redemption of your manhood. I can also place my fear of hell in the worldview and work with it, it just feels natural to me. Im still blessed to be priviliged to be in university and have a great chance of getting a remote job that i can work with my health conditions, so i can probably get some nice income and move somewhere where theres a sufi order and live the sufi life, give most of my income to the poor and just live a life of worship and meditations. Its better than going fully hermit and fits my new conclusions about metaphysics and religion. Thanks Leo first and foremost, for all the amazing content, i would never have this respect and amazement for reality and life where it not for you. It seems you dont really care for my takes on this forum but that is okay. May your health issues and suffering ease. When my issues were starting in 2022 Leo was even so kind to gift the life purpose course to me. Harsh as he is, Leo is an extremely generous soul and he wishes the best for everyone. That is why when the new course will come out, I will pay for one course for one of you who cant afford it. When its time, PM me and i will do a raffle and pay for one. Ill log back in when its out to do this raffle. Thanks all the other ppl on this forum, Osaid, Princess Arabia, Emerald, Someone Here, Nilsi, Docwatts, and so many cool others here, this forum truly is a place like no other. Godspeed to all of you. i have enjoyed and learned so much from seeing yall speak and grow. Im sorry for my wacky and sometimes resentful posts in the past, if i posted something wacky it was mostly as a reaction to my own ego because i was so frustrated that i was no longer able to fulfill my egoic desires due to my issues. I hereby request @Osaid and confirm to have all my prior posts hidden except this one. I will end my journey here by sharing my favorite videos of Leo, one metaphysical and one about life. An absolute classic, that forms the basis of all spirituality and consciousness work, and is absolutely necessary to begin working towards any kind of truth. An amazing exposition of our conditioned mind and assumptions, and all other metaphysics are to be derived from this realization. My favorite video, the way Leo pulls out from you, your hidden and inner wonder for life, and reveals the wonders of life, how much is possible, how magical life and reality really is, i cant really describe whats so good about this video. It reveals to you the numbed , boring and fearful conditioning that you have lived with your whole life, the fact you know and knew nothing, and pulls it all together in an extremely practical video for all to see. This vid made me feel like this world is home, that zelda feeling like there truly is magic in the world. With this, i say you all goodbye. Godspeed.

God is beyond physical.. And spiritual…… It’s a miracle! Alien Love is an Infinite Fantasy!

Human love is much more advanced than animal love. But is still very primitive compared to higher levels of love like alien love. Turn the other cheek is human love and although it much more advanced than eye for an eye which is very animalistic but there is love beyond that. It kind of reminds me of Wilber’s pre-rational, rational and trans-rational. Our love is as sophisticated as our brain. And there comes a point that the rationality of turning the other cheek becomes a burden.

Why the heck is the drama like it is? A drama in 10 Acts. Act 1: God IS. Infinite Being/Consciousness/Reality IS. Always. Eternal. I am that I am. Nowhere else to go for "It", because It would and is already be there. (True) You can't have an outside. (True) YOU are. I am that I am. The Being speaking to Moses had realized that: "One day he ventured farafield while pasturing his sheep and ended up on the slopes of Mount Horeb, the “Mountain of God.”70 There, as everyone knows, he saw a strange sight: a plant that appeared to have a flame burning in its center, though it was not consumed by the fire. When he drew closer to get a better look at this marvel, he heard the plant call him by name. “I am here,” Moses answered, whereupon the burning plant told him to take off his shoes, “ … for the place on which you stand is holy ground. I am the God of your fathers…” (Figure 30). The god-plant [aka psychedelic plant,WbtR], then told Moses that he had a task for him." Carl Ruck, The Apples of Apollo. Act 2: Any separate-self has as main building block resistance to what is. When you truly empty out your relative arising self (the illusion), boredom gets cut off (its a negative resistance + a conceptual interpretation on top, all of that are appearances happening within Infinite True You). And all the other interpretations and reactions also, and they get replaced by the Sat Chit Ananda bliss of True Being. Which is also just fact. The True Being of God is Sat Chit Ananda. Any resistance and suffering is just the illusion of the ignorant ego. That becomes totally clear when these awakened states have become accessible in a stable way. Act 3: Indras Net, and the One (Infinite) without a second Apparently, other perspectives of YOUR Infinite Net of perspectives/holons/being (Indras Net), which YOU forget in real-time (you need just one more dimension for these other beings you forget in real-time), manifest this whole show (the so called Archetypes (in former times Gods/Deities or Platos Archetypes, nowadays Leos Aliens of various kinds, see Bache, LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven, or the books of Stan Grof). These beings/perspectives have an Intelligence which makes a human appear very limited. Some like to call it alien. Some divine. Some archetypal. Yet, its all True You at the same time. How all of that has to be necessarily ones own True Being is paradoxical from the un-enlightened perspective, yet no problem when "other" falls away in Enlightenment as just a conceptual-arising. Or more precisely, I-feelings and I-thoughts and projecting "other-feeling" and "other-concepts" on "something" arising in ones True Nondual Infinite Being drops away. Act 4: Chris Bache, LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven: “Just to put this into perspective,” I was in a condition of consciousness that might best be described as “ancient.” Surveying what had been unfolding through billions of years of evolution and what would be emerging in humanity’s future, I was not so much in the material domain as in a domain that was responsible for generating material reality. Matter always exists at a specific time, but I was encompassing many time-moments simultaneously and so was stretched across time. The experience carried with it a sense of being “timefilled” or “ancient.” In the middle of this grand tour, it was as if something said, “Just to put this into perspective,” and then the most extraordinary thing happened. The physical universe began to be folded up and put away. It was as simple as that, like one puts away Christmas decorations after the holidays. The physical universe, planets surging with vitality, whole galaxies teeming with life, started to be folded up and slipped into a background of total EMPTINESS. I immediately recognized that this was the Primal Void. I was being shown that matter and time are not ultimately real, that they emerge from and are at every moment sustained by something that is more real, something completely without form. As the universe got smaller with each fold, I could feel billions of life-forms being slipped into the folds of the Void, and a protest rose within me. I did not want to let go of all this exquisitely beautiful form, everything that had been so painstakingly crafted through billions of years of evolution. Indeed, it was my love for the physical universe that seemed to precipitate this extreme lesson—as if to break the spell that physical creation had on me, seen as I had seen it in the broad sweep of its evolutionary glory. My protests changed nothing, however, and the universe’s bursting vitality became fainter with each fold. As the universe continued to shrink, my experience began to shift to what was swallowing it. What had been background was becoming foreground and capturing my attention. It was SILENCE like I had never experienced silence before. It was STILLNESS more still than I had ever known. And most strange of all, I experienced its emergence as a REMEMBERING. I was remembering something that it seemed I had lost contact with billions of years ago. The shock of remembering something so ancient left me stunned. In one second, it completely transformed my sense of what I was. Our memories define the boundaries of our being. In one sudden movement, I was remembering a sea of Infinite Formlessness that was the source of all Form, including my own form, and I knew that this was what “I” at root was. Act 5. Chris Bache,. LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven: Then “God” asked me, “Is it all for nothing? Have we not learned anything? The Jolts of Non-Being Flowing on the energy of the universe, suddenly everything was turned off and then on again. Everything that is, suddenly was not—POW—then was again. This happened repeatedly. The universe kept vanishing. The jolts were the winking out of Being into Non-Being. In the cessation of the universe, all the world’s striving, yearning, and suffering was suddenly thrown into a new perspective. This was the substance of God. The question is not “Why are we doing it?” The question is “Why is God doing it?” Why is God unfolding himself/herself/itself as the universe? What is it for? In this burgeoning of life, God seemed to be knowing himself. “Either it’s this teaming mass of life or it’s this!”—POW—Nothingness. Either the One becoming our infinitely rich universe, or the Void. Then “God” asked me, “Is it all for nothing? Have we not learned anything?” and he turned as if to ponder his failure. This shattered me and I wept. Non-Being and Being were two different modes of God. In the choice of Being, there unfolded the entirety of life as it is, with all its mysteries, pains, and pleasures. It all seemed to be about learning. “Have we not learned anything?” I felt shattered by the vastness of God’s adventure in knowing himself. All the galaxies had continued to turn while I was in hell today. Suns flared into supernovas, and all this was him. Nothing was not him. “Have we not learned anything?” I was silenced. Act 6: Chris Bache, LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven: “Have we not learned anything?” This time it carried overtones of: “Has it not been worthwhile? Has it not been an adventure? Look what would not exist if we had not chosen to create.” This mysterious progression repeated itself many times and in many variations. It continued for hours. I would be at one level of reality far beyond physical diversity, and as I sought to know this reality more deeply, I would experience a kind of dying, a falling away, and would slip into a new level where I would discover that this duality too was but another facet of Myself. Over and over again, in detailed progressions, I was led to the same fundamental encounter. No matter how many times I died or how many different forms I was when I died, I kept being caught by this massive SOMETHING, this IT. I could not leave IT, could not escape IT, could not not be IT. No matter how many adventures I had been on, I had never stepped outside IT, never stopped being IT. There simply was no outside to My Being. There was no other in existence. As I moved into these levels of increasing ontological simplicity, I entered a profound stillness that reawakened a distant, vague memory. “Where have I known this before?” By following this stillness, I was guided back to what seemed like a time before creation, back to the ontological fount of creation. In this stillness, I was “with Myself” in ways that I had been long ago, but not for billions of years. It was a time of reunion, a time of being whole after a terribly long separation. From this extraordinary position, I began to actually be able to conceive of the possibility of the physical universe not having been created. The alternatives stood starkly before me. On one side was all the planning, all the work, all the confusion and uncertainty, and especially all the terrible suffering that was so fresh in my mind from earlier in the session. On the other side was the profound stillness and richness that was my current state. Why do it? Why manifest the universe if at such a cost? An answer rose that was the same as I had been given before, in session 15: “Have we not learned anything?” This time it carried overtones of: “Has it not been worthwhile? Has it not been an adventure? Look what would not exist if we had not chosen to create.” This time I was not shattered, for the choice of creation seemed profoundly good. The thought that the entire physical universe might not have existed carried with it a terrible sadness. From this perspective, I was also able to feel that there was no fundamental flaw in the manifest order of creation. Despite all the suffering, everything was moving along fine—though it is profoundly unfinished. I continued to ask my questions: “What is happening here?” “How does this work?” “What has it been like for you?” With each question, my experiential field changed, opening me to one cosmic process after another. I cannot describe these experiences adequately because the categories of thought derived from space-time do not lend themselves to remembering clearly or translating into words experiences of realities that lie outside space-time. Though my ordinary waking consciousness is being gradually changed by these experiences, it is still too cognitively restricted to be able to hold on to them in sufficient detail. What I experienced, however, repeatedly swept me into ecstasy. “Amazing!” “So that’s how that works!” “Oh, goodness!” “How much do you want to see?” I was asked. “More!” I answered, and always more would unfold. It kept unfolding for hours. Act 7: Chris Bache, LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven: “Go and create, My Children.” Let me backtrack to another layer of the experience. As I was re-assimilating my lives and ascending through various levels, I was also entering into intimate dialogue with a Presence that addressed me. It communed with me and “spoke” to me in messages that were only sometimes put into words. It was explaining to me what I was experiencing not so much with words but with direct illumination. When I reached the point of Diamond Light, I was lifted beyond physical existence and beyond the bardo echoes of physical existence. It felt like I had reassimilated all my incarnations on Earth, that I had brought back into one all my experiences in duality. From this point, which carried the flavor of both before and after physical existence, the Presence illumined for me the human project. With the deepest, most tender words of a divine parent, It said: “Go and create, My Children.” It was setting us loose in a cosmos that contained many realms. The one I had just reemerged from was only one among many universes, some of which were physical, others not. We were small aspects of this Being, truly Its children, of the same type, only smaller in size and capacity. Act 8. Water by the River sits in Sat Chit Ananda on a park bench, relaxes the self-contraction of his former character-gig into Infinite Liberation of True Being, looking at all beings who believe in their separation and whose suffering and resistance keeps the whole gig going. He remembers quoting from Chris Baches incredible journey told in "LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven", and how he had to pass the Ocean of Suffering on his high-dose-LSD-journey before any of these higher realms which detailed the Karmic mechanisms and the reasons for manifestation (even if it means initial suffering) were disclosed for him. This time, however, I was refusing to surrender to the pain and rejected everything that was happening to me. Eventually, I was backed up against a psychological wall and was told that if I persisted in rejecting the suffering, I would be turning my back on humanity, on life itself. To not care seemed to be the ultimate existential withdrawal from life. With multiple scenarios echoing this refrain, I was being confronted with an absolute choice of whether to open to this pain or not. At this point, my “No” changed to a “Yes.” This transition felt like a conversion in the deepest religious sense. In the middle of terrible suffering I found myself saying, “Yes! I can make a difference. Yes! I accept responsibility.” I was accepting responsibility for the anguish and for trying to make a difference in the lives surrounding me. This shift was fundamental. It reached to depths I cannot now fathom and impacted me in ways I cannot summarize. It seemed a free choice on the most basic of questions. With this acceptance, the torment suddenly changed to positive themes. Themes of young children—happy excitement, delighted play, self-abandoned joy. Many scenarios of childhood wonder and adventure. This was the beginning of a “new way.” It contrasted with the former negative way in every respect. It was simple instead of chaotic, shared instead of individual, fresh instead of repetitive. I felt cleansed and made new. (S 17) Apparently, the high-dose LSD psychedelic journey seemed to demand something like a Bodhisattva-Comittment in order to open these divine-realms and the mechanics of archetypal creation-realms, Karma & reincarnation, which apparently don't get opened so much (if at all) with other psychedelic like 5-MeO. Maybe God has left some safety-elements in place so that Liberation from the egoic separate-self-contraction can not so easily be achieved if it all is done only for the separate-self gig and its curiosity in "understanding". Act 9: Where there is not THIS, there is only suffering Act 10: Harada-Roshi to Yaeoko, in Three Pillars of Zen, Kapleau: Now for the first time. "Now for the first time you have found the Way—fully realized your Mind. You have been delivered from delusion, which has no abiding root. Wonderful! Wonderful! There is neither Ox [God/Reality as object out there]nor man [separate self]." So who exactly is reading these words again? Who is reading these lines? Which is that silent Awareness having it all appearing in its Infinite and eternal Being? And did it all ever truly happen? And who said to Chris Bache “Go and create, My Children”? Selling the drama by the River

something as alien to the mind as the absence of limits, which could be translated as the absence of everything, makes being inevitable. Being=absence of limits, they are synonyms, and being is you. The fact of being and the fact of the absence of limits, aka infinity, make stability in form impossible, but stability in being possible and inevitable. Being is always the same: totality. The form is always changing, it flows on itself infinitely. God is the intelligence that organizes that infinite flow in an absolutely perfect way, it is a facet of being. You are the being in it's totality, but as form a creation of the intelligence. I'd say that the intelligence is like an AI, something inevitable and automatic

To be diagnosed is to be attached to labels and I want to be free. They're gonna be like:: *hurr durr* You can't be Autistic and Antisocial or you can't be Bipolar and have OCPD or Schizophrenic and Narcissistic or MDD and HPD or Paranoid and Dependent or Anorexic and Binge-Eating or have ADHD and be Avoidant and if you're dealing with oldtimers, they're gonna be like: You can't be autistic when you show signs of empathy. Or "girls can't be autistic". Yes, people like that actually exist. and you can definitely not be Avoidant and Secure and Anxious simultaneously And you can't be a Human and an Alien and a Robot and God apparently What's next: "You can't have peanut butter on your jelly sandwich"? But I am all of these things and all others simultaneously They're like Pokemon: "Gotta catch them all!" To reach Stage Coral, you need to acquire Insanity and transcend it.

Like the secret of what happens once you transcend Alien Awakenings?

Alright, so, I'm chilling, eating my dinner. On a microdose of LSD and smoked a tiny bit of weed, vibing, but very low dosage. During the dinner, the following video is recommended to it and I watch it: Around 15:00, the experienced woman guides the Sky Life girl to start channelling this alien energy for the first time. The intensity of the exchange made me cry. Then, there was a guiding to do this myself. Opening my mouth upwards, this energy came through me, and I was speaking some sort of 'words' much like in the video is shown. The experience also came, more importantly, with a 'feeling' and 'images' although these descriptions don't fully justify the breath of the experience. When the experience started, the internet (which always works) lagged through which automatically paused the video. The experience only lasted for around 15-30 seconds. Exactly when I closed my mouth, the internet reconnected and the video continued. This happened literally just now, so wanted to capture the report as it is still fresh.

@Leo Gura is a DMT entity, with some sneaky plans. He's skillfully executing the alien assimilation program. First, he hooks you with all the self-development content. Then he inspires you through enlightenment and awakening. So then finally you're awe-struck when he reveals that you're God. But that's not it either, the actual real deal is the Infinite Alien Awakening. He's trying to bend your psyche into an alien mold and catch you off guard. And then he's gonna steal your humanity to drag you into the depths of Alien Abyss. You're going to be dissociated into nothingness, assimilated by unity, and morphed to infinity.

The Thing (1980) is pretty neat, especially on Psychedelics We're playing chess and I'm competing with your Alien Queen

Sure, why not? Let's add that to the list of self-descriptors along with Alien, God, Buddhist, Christian, Psychonaut and Leo.

I'm not familiar with this but rather than trying to resist and inhibit the emotions as they come up as practice, it would be practicing giving yourself eargasms through your entire body and maybe up your spine. Careful though, you could in theory mess yourself up if you're a genetic freak and accidentally wake up your Kundalini or something like that. I get strong emotions of awe, beauty, appreciation and gratitude when I hear beautiful human voices, specially a male/female harmony. I have a list of around 200 Acapella music videos that make me feel these chills One of my best memories in life is listening to"emotions" by Mariah Carey as munching on a bunch of sweet-ass mangoes after a long day of work. It made me appreciate life a lot in that moment. You can also put on some good headphones, 40 hz bi neural beats and hum the tone. That sh*t makes me zone in like crazy. It's like om chanting on steroids and sounds super trippy and alien.

Sorry to see you go. Take care of yourself and I hope your health improves. I never said alien stuff is a final stance. It's just an aspect of consciousness I discovered.

Evil forces and entities are as real (or unreal) as your toaster. Rumour has it that some alien dark entities like to eat mental sanity for breakfast Hic sunt Dracones by the River (translation according to forum guidelines: There can be hungry Nessie in the infinite Loch Ness smiling at poor unsuspecting pioneering psychonauts munching away health on all levels of Maslows Pyramid)

As rats. Every human is a rat relative to Alien Mind.

@Leo Gura you mean their minds aren't flexible enough, they don't have enough mastery over their minds to connect with alien mind?

But there are other high states which I wouldn't call alien per se. Alien Mind is a domain you sorta have to invent for yourself. Most people simply don't have enough requisite variety to invent it. A Buddhist is not going to invent Alien Mind because he is paradigm-locked into Buddhism.

btw @Leo Gura isn't alien consciousness just any state of consciousness different from the standard state of consciousness experienced by the human vehicle, and maybe also the vehicle of animals and insects ?

That's why you put on some music or movie and let your subconscious alternate alien selves calm you down

I thought "Leo hasn't reached Spiral Dynamics Stage Wacky yet, he's still stuck in Alien Expansion" I was wrong

1. Haven't you heard the news, there's no way the Singularity will take past 2050! 2. Those reasons are excellent, just gotta find out how to arrange my neurons to speed it up! 3. If I'm not Alien God at that point, I will arrange my cremated ashes to be mixed with a shit ton of 5-MeO!

I can imagine, x8 is made of so much love! x9 is just fascinating and don't even get me started past x10! But I won't take away too much of God's yarn of infinity just yet, even if it is infinite, I'll let Leo explain it. I draw the line at Spiral Metanics Stage 3 After that, you're just an Alien God screwing around 😂 At that point, you're at the same level as the Alien God who created you when he did and in whose dream you exist. Of course, that God will be something completely different at that point, having itself evolved past ever higher levels.

At this point I've had several deep awakenings to solipsism and its mechanisms, but perhaps at the cost of ever having a romantic/intimate relationship. It just feels so strange now. As to why this type of relationship specifically and not others, I can think of a couple reasons - one is simply force of habit, prior to the awakenings I've had lots of experience with family, friendship, and regular social interactions, but never anything beyond short-lived school crushes. Two is I never particularly craved that type of relationship to begin with, I'm 23 and never had a girlfriend, which doesn't bother me at all. Three is the unique intimacy these entail. I'm also highly introverted, but have no trouble interacting with people after doing lots of development work. I find it's generally simpler to talk to men, but women are just fine too in normal contexts. Whereas with 'game', after watching Leo's 3-part series and some other pickup advice out of curiosity, I've found no way to make it authentic for myself. Put together, these factors now make romantic relationships seem very alien (speaking from the dualistic human perspective here). I'm open to the possibility this is all a bias/limiting belief in my head, though I'm completely certain I have no hidden insecurities about my looks or social skills, so it's not that kind of problem. In my latest trip I pretty much accepted that it's a sacrifice I had to make to experience God's Love, one I'd gladly give a million times over as nothing 'earthly' can compare. Not looking for a solution per se, but I am interested how others with similar spiritual experiences handle this aspect of their lives, might give me a missing hint, as I wouldn't want to miss out on something potentially nice due to ignorance. Thanks for reading.