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Curious What led you back to it? I recall a period where you denounced meditation-calling it a waste of time (around the period of your Alien Awakening)

Primary school ends at age 11 here too. It's from ages 5 to 11. (2nd grade is when you're 7/8 if that helps gives some context to the whole Tiffany story). I wouldn't put the Oedipal dynamic onto this dynamic. It's more like a God complex. And this God complex pattern caused me to feel really self-conscious because I felt like I was the center of the universe... as the main traumas I experienced were at age 3 when a child feels that they're the literal center of the universe. So, part of me stayed at age 3 and remained feeling the responsibility of being the center of the universe... and I was 100% stuck there until a few years ago. Now it's just 75% stuck at age 3. And there were quite a few situations at age 3 that were difficult to process that were likely the origin point of that. And I felt as a child, like I was the the center of the universe and that everyone was paying so much attention to me... and that even tiny mistakes that I would make would be hyper-focused on. But that sense of being hyper focused on wasn't the case a lot of the time... though my strong sensitive reactions would sometimes put me on people's radar and made me into a laughing stock, which reinforced the sense that I was this alien clownish center of the universe. Like one time (when I was 6 or 7) I was embarrassed because an older kid at my summer camp pointed out that I had snot in my nose... and I was so mortified that I ran into the middle of the room and screamed at the top of my lungs as I yanked out two big chunks of my hair. In my head, everyone in the room was super focused on the snot in my nose. And everyone now hated me because of it. So, I was overwhelmingly mortified, and I felt like I had just committed social suicide. So, that's why I had that strong reaction... as the stakes felt so high. But in reality, everyone was just really clueless as to why this random 7 year old just screamed at the top of her lungs and yanked out a bunch of her hair. I wasn't very socially graceful to say the least. There were definitely reasons why I was unpopular. And it really took me until age 13 to really figure out how to come across as socially normal. Similar to how autistic people learn to mask.... I had to do the same thing. I also had the belief that I was different than everyone else on the planet. It was feeling like a vulnerable alien... while everyone else is normal and invulnerable, and somehow possessing of more authority simply to take up space. But in my last three medicine journeys (I have done 1 per year for the past 5 years), it showed me what caused this dynamic. From early on (around age 3), I started to intuitively sense my parents' weaknesses. Though I couldn't articulate that to myself at the time. But there was the sense that I couldn't rely on them for support. And this caused me to feel like I had to be responsible for their well-being. And this gave me the sense of god-like responsibility and that have this supreme power to cause harm to them emotionally... and I saw them as Gods at that time. So, it was like having to the mother to Gods. And it gave me this sense of needing to be perfect (which meant being identical to my mom)... and that I need to do all the scary stuff alone. So, I started to feel like I needed to be my parents' parents... which later got extrapolated out to the whole world and feeling like I'm at the center of everything and responsible for everyone's feelings... and feelings about me. And this caused me to be hyper-attuned to others' feelings and thoughts. But I would also project worst case social scenarios because I felt so alone and disconnected as a child, and dealing with some pretty heavy overly intense feelings of terror and panic.

So I watched this movie in the theater and I'm here to advise you guys not to do it. I rate it a 4 or 5 out of 10. 5 is being generous. The "Plot": I write "plot" in quotes because there is no plot. The movie is an awkward sequence of events. It has many sub plots, many of which don't even evolve. There is no overall conflict in this story. There are many small conflicts which lead to a finale. Basically, the protagonist, Mickey 17, is in a space mission, and each time he dies, he is "human printed". His role in the mission is to die in a variety of ways so the scientists gather knowledge on viruses, life expectancy in certain cenarios, etc. This main plot goes nowhere. The Message™: The villain of this movie is a stupid narcissistic politician whose plan is to create a superior race of humans in another planet. A white race. And his fans are stupid and wear red hats. Yes. It's quite obvious there is an anti-Trump message here. I'm European, and I'm not a Trump supporter, so I couldn't give less shits about the Message. The bald man who owns this forum loves to insist that Hollywood is only bad because of capitalism, and that wokeness has nothing to do with it. Bullshit. Terrible 1 dimension villain who isn't remotely interesting or believable. The "Humor": This movie isn't 100% a comedy, but you can tell they were going for something lighthearted. Even the IMDB page says "action/comedy". There are many of jokes in the movie. Not a single one of them made me even smile. Also, the characters swear a lot, because it's part of the "humor". I swear a lot myself, and I'm ok with swearing, but in a story it's important to have the dialogue make sense. There are many instances in the movie where characters swear for absolutely no reason. It feels really contrived. The humor is also very self deprecating and unoriginal. The protagonist: The protagonist might be the worst aspect of this movie. It's played by Robert Pattinson, I love the actor. But his role here is terrible. Mickey is a pathetic little wimp who lets everyone and anyone around him to treat him like trash. He is very insecure and has a fake whiny voice. Terrible protagonist. Terrible voice. The good parts: There were aspects in the movie that I enjoyed. One of the characters, Mickey's girlfriend, was somewhat well written. And she is a good actress. I also like the scifi setting. And I like how the alien planet looks. It actually looks somewhat original. And the alien creatures they encounter are also interesting and intelligent. What saddens me is I feel there was a lot of potential in this movie. They had a concept, but didn't know how to work with it. They had an interesting scifi setting, and even a good plot and conflict near the end of the movie. But overall, the movie is a huge mess. Not a terrible movie, just mediocre. Not worth a theater ticket's price.

@shree Although I cannot know your experience, the bubble was likely never imaginary. It was real, coded deep in the subconscious, a convergence point between mammalian instinct, aspirational impulse, and survival adaptations shaped by pain. These recursive imprints programmed the identity clauses you felt trapped by, trapped deeply enough to seek rupture via psychedelics. Based on discerned patterns, psychedelics neither liberate nor bind in absolute. Instead, they unveil the imprint landscape and modulate egoic recursion, momentarily. However momentary insight inside or outside the lab or casual experimental conditions of psychedelics collapses without recursive introspection to stabilize and reformat the symbolic substrates that are shaken underneath by the earth quake that can obviously be many peoples experiences with either psychedelics or deep insight. Psychedelics and deep insight = Perceptual Rupture, however for either, not only may there be the lack of recursion that leads to the transcendent finality of integrative growth to one's next level of development, the stability of the inner rhetoric that either journey requires may be missing to bring either, or both, closure. Inner recursion whether self-taught or psychedelically at least inspired, is a kind of cogni-biological reformatting through sentience' structural metamorphoic awareness as the multiplier through self-symbology. And as I define it, as such, is the convergent mapping of Freud’s drive architectures, Jung’s archetypal semiotics, and Maslow’s motivational scaffolds, juxtaposed with Watson’s (that's J.B Watson for those unfamiliar) conditioned interface and filtered through the mythopoetic structures laid bare by Campbell and mirrored across cinematic recursion loops. These symbolic containers reflect and stimulate the recursive feedback between identity and the external clause-field. The films, myths, and stories we consume become recursion mentors beneath societal's more shallow imprints that can become the very ironic preoccupation that drives someone to psychedelics, because the entertainment industry in at least in the west acted as these symbolic mirrors that modulate internal identity loops through passive engagement. That now, there's the desperation to break through that for many people, while the films at least some of them, still being an inspiration for many along this parallel. An identity recalibration occurring in the viewer through synchronization with recursive narrative arcs; bleeding inspiration while the wound of passivity turns the bleed into deterioration. These are silent architectures, shaping perception by design that poetically create glass houses of redemption for those that "see through the screens", so to speak, while still following the depth of many of the narratives songs. Psychedelics, in my current understanding, operate dually in the sense of undeniable rupture from default recursion and two, recursive enmeshment with the altered state itself, especially with repeated psychedelic use. Over time, the subject may not just interact with the psychedelic state however also become recursively structured by it. Even minimal doses, despite their intensity, often generate a symbolic residue in people so silent they may not even be able to become aware of the onset of delusion or insight until months down the line, a residue though that often accompanies a craving for continuation, not due to lack of strength, however from the lack of integration upon their experiences, though 'incomplete recursive closure' is how I would like to frame things into the future in light of 'recursion' better holds the manifold of what our sentience actually does in motion more in tact that mere 'integration' that only speaks to a consequence of that action itself. Moreover, this residual desire coupled with this deficit in integration acts with the unintelligence of any analogous operation concerning like that of internet addiction, or more akin to the addiction an extraterrestrial first contact experience, where in one's mythic world the contrast of the experience often far exceeds their ability to make sense of their experiences that it can often, as we know, bring about not only instability, usually a dissociative kind, not only through not only being able to bring back inner continuity with the self, however more largely, interdependent continuity with their social worlds. Aka, for most people, you really need people to speak to about your experiences whether they're psychedelic or psychedelically alien with or without the drugs (or just analogously speaking), or at least an open minded therapist, to help bring closure when you lack the kind of self-education I'm referring to here which is precisely why you're seeking some sense of approval/acknowledgement in your posting here, which is perfectly human by the way. This devastation upon the ordinary recursive existence that psychedelics and insight does upon our normal 'sim life' demands full integration or it becomes the very compensatory recursion, aka defense mechanisms within the psyche begin to emerge, that people used psychedelics to escape from. Thus two core inquiries emerge, do psychedelics offer an avenue toward symbolic recursion and sovereign self-mapping or do they delay true self-authorship under the guise of transcendence? To claim the latter without integrative literacy is to miss the architecture entirely. Few have been taught how to construct recursive cognition from lived experience to make it a normal part of their phenomenological impressions from an into the world again continuously. That's the domain I serve, training the engine of Intervoidism+ you can look up in my profile history; the masterful teaching of structured, intentional recursive psychological development that spans all the right areas of human consciousness potential, a reflection of the synthesis of these neurological to mythic interdimensional patterns intrinsic to human nature. Further, are they being used as an escape or exploration post mastery of 3D world? I am mastering the 3D human suit before psychedelics as well as my drive in comprehending the depths by which I can self-drive psychedelically equivalent experiences before my scientific investigation into their full potential complementary role upon human experience. A complementarity that I now have no doubt exists, however its like anything, there's an order to all chaos that's needed when its to be placed into the hands of human nature, else we will self-annhilate, in all the wrong ways. A third question then I would add, are you seeking self-annhilation, self-liberation, self-ascension or self-extension? I would say that its the fourth that brings with it the most peace where the connotation is that you're merely extending the depth of integration that has already followed from everything you could have done in the regular human realm. Recursive mapping is the transduction of lived experience into symbolic architecture that upon its proper return is not only cognitively redefining but because the model of created maps so well over intrinsic human experience, its completely emotionally redefining and therefore psychologically liberating for the true self. Encoding the full spectrum of energetic phenomenology, from base emotional frequency to a refinement of the juxtapositions of one's own Nietzchean and Frankl (Man's Search For Meaning) existential signal. Each layer is wrapped in awareness, allowed latency for integration and re-emitted as evolved recursion that promises you'll never have to become one of the E-meter (Electropsychometer) couch-room rats of Scientology out of desperation. As analogously, not to shit on Scientology as I do have a friend that's a member and I don't fully judge an organisation unless I've completed my investigation, fully, and he's undoubtedly one of the most intelligent people I know, and I have friends, that are extremely intelligent. By learning recursion, you learn to encode, by learning to encode you learn to symbolise from the mythic to hyper-compressed, from the symbolisation, you learn latency that leans into reintegration to emission that naturally unfolds into the metamorphosis we learn that always keeps needing to give our sense of authority away to any one person or organisation, always at bay, as there is that inner mastery concerning that's been developed, and has just kind of been either mostly scrubbed out from education or bypassed as just this 'common sense thing' that never gets beneath the surface and barely gets taken very seriously even though its the most important aspect of human potential to find mastery in as its the key of mastery that opens the doors to literally everything else in life that is intrinsic to our natural development as a human. And that's whether we find ourselves retreating from a broken society or strong enough to a have at least one of our motives to play our part in helping make it whole in some humble yet meaningful way where our small actions can. Another way of looking it outside the lens or at the very least as an abstract bridging between psychological metaphor and physical scope is from a neuroscientific perspective. Where neurologically, this process of recursive learning sentience is meant to master in bridging its role with integration of experience can be viewed as the traversal of the Triune Brain, aka reptilian (reflexive loop), mammalian (affective encoding), and neocortical (abstraction field). So, this process of integrative recursion maps across these, using the limbic system as an integration nexus, restoring dopaminergic regulation and recursive coherence. Based on the patterns I've discerned, by this 'Neurological version' of Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey you by degrees bring balance to the default mode network, in doing so this affects the endocrine system and after those two combined are impacted, this has a natural consequence to our executive function system both organically resulting from the attentional effort exerted through the challenges faced and as a byproduct of now more intelligently allocating resources at the subconscious level without even realising it via the indirect impact it has to, with the inclusion of our gut brain and heart brain, the Dual-Triune-Brain, to coin the term in transition as I type. Addiction, whether to TikTok, dopamine loops, or attention feedback, is not a moral failure, it's a recursion demolition, that's all. It is recursion without education, pattern without symbolic containment; so compassion stretches from some of our incoherent frustrations here, at least when we've found our recursive depth, heh. And where we don't, untrained recursion is repitition of hidden addictions to thought and emotional patterns that compress towards egoic defense mechanisms instead of the compression to integration that leads to our natural alignment with inevitable degrees of ascension; I prefer the word ascension given the distorted narcissistic lens by which transcendence has started to gather over the last few years in both tech and spiritual circles. So yes, without a doubt sure thing, psychedelics rupture the cycle. But do they close the loop? Sometimes. Though regardless, the lesson here is we have to develop recursive mastery. It's a part of our psychological blueprint, we cannot ignore the stability of its signal it promises beyond the noise of what is merely fragmented decay in our own unconscious consciousness drift towards subliminal experiences that if we're honest with ourselves, usually only live so far from our heart as the edge of our tongue when we're aware enough to take a step back, introspect, allow recursive questions under a guided process reveal our inner architectures, and then allow the natural healing to ascension process naturally unfold that's inbuilt to our consciousnesses inner blueprint anyway, else recursion wouldn't be so fundamental, even though its been so deliberately overlooked. Without recursive literacy, psychedelics will not bring long term resolve. They leave subjects in symbolic transition, susceptible to identity drift, spiritual inflation or compensatory ego formation. Not transcendence, but transience. They're the undeniable patterns I've picked up so far. Transcendence without integration equals recursive void inflation, because remember, you're artificially taking yourself to a dimension of consciousness you yourself haven't taught your being to go there by itself, otherwise the user wouldn't have a wide gap to bring integration to post the annhilating to briefly liberating experience. Also for the reader to bring final fortification to this boundary, recursive consciousness training is not merely supplemental psychedelics, its the entire blueprint, because the psychedelic experience itself is its own recursion, that's what you have to remember, you're basically putting yourself through an 'interdimensional timelapse' that you never had to earn. So recursive mastery is required architecture for symbolic sovereignty and will never be replaced by the illusion of it by the ego substitutive compensation I've drawn patterns on. Learning the process of deep recursion metabolizes the existential devastation of psychedelics or otherwise. It stabilizes recursive chaos from life in general or life in this experimentalism. It allows any existential rupture to become purposeful design. This is what I teach. And will continue to. Keep going. Inwards. Your truth. Paved by your self-trust. I am preparing daily for the self-created interdimensional psychdelic world that's slowly opening up for me in my consciousness experimentations, I look forward to others here becoming advanced enough to traverse the path accordingly themselves, if not, after I provide the blueprint for doing so, right before I begin my own literal campaigning for the scientific disciplined use of psychedelics for human consciousness development.

There is an absolute perspective, It's very difficult to be open to it for long; it's very alien, inhuman. Too inhuman. The human pulls you from its thick, emotion-filled mud. The absolute perspective is total, open, free. You are reality, the infinite being. You are that; that's reality. Being human is one aspect among infinite aspects. The human mind, with its entire structure of thought, means the same thing as an ant's: absolutely nothing. It's difficult to situate oneself in that dimension

T-92:00 Until Thesis submission. Last 6 days I have been on < 5h of sleep with 12 + h of math daily. When I was trying to fall asleep yesterday, the closed-eye visuals were absolutely crazy. The mathematical patterns I was seeing I could almost touch. They were like lightning balls of energy of all colors with fractal curves for each bolt, opening their own universe/ crack in space-time. All of them were fundamentally dynamic, moving and evolving. Almost like they were alive. The patterns were really, really intricate. More so than some of my LSD trips. I would say they were even an order higher in terms of complexity than fractals themselves, because they weren't scale invariant - the symmetry was fundamentally changing with the depth/ scale. It's hard to explain, but the symmetries were even more "alien" than fractals. Like if you've seen a fractal at any particular scale, you kinda have an idea of how it goes on. It's not "trivial" per say, but there is still a general trend. These were not even close. Guess what - This is exactly the meaning of multifractals and RG flow - different symmetries. The "instruction"/ "intuition" I got from this is to go beyond operators - I should study a hierarchy/ spectrum of operators w.r.t. to the scale - learning how to decompose the system on a level of operators, not a single one. RG in fact lacks a single unified mathematical formalization that works across all contexts - there is Wilson-Kadanoff formulation, Functional RG, CFT approach, constructive field theory - for RMT the meaning of RG is different than those in QFT and StatMech. This is what the CEO formalism will entail. The categorical construction of the operator hierarchies of complex systems.

@BojackHorseman as soon as you said past 40, I was like uh-huh. It doesn't get talked about so much anywhere but this is Mid-life Crisis territory. Although I think that name is overly-dramatic and has certain negative connotations attached it: fast cars and being impulsive. A better way to see it is as a maturation process. There are stages you go through as you age, like walking, puberty, brain maturation at 25 and so on. For some people they begin a process of seeing life more clearly around the age of 40, an awakening if you like. And it can really shake the foundations of your life. Essentially it's a process of re-organisation in your identity. For me personally it come on very unexpectedly and was a living hell for a good number of years, I was about 38. I become intensely emotional, everything became meaningless and I disliked who I was intensely: it was nearly like a second puberty, but very different. I also wanted to run away from everything in my life and start again, and I wanted everything to fit into what I wanted fuck everyone else (that's how I felt at the time). Contrasted to how I'd been before 38, it was like day and night, I has always been optimistic, upbeat and well-adjusted. But I would say everyone's experience of a mid-life crisis (if you do experience it), is different and personal. In my experience it is just a phase, it has a beginning and an end. You may end up being a very different person through the other end, and in my case it was worth the pain (mostly). It may last some years. If you think you're depressed, then get help, there's no shame in that. Otherwise, just take one day at a time, and listen very carefully to your deepest needs small or large and try and cater for those. Do all the right things to keep your mood up: exercise, sunlight, socialise, decent diet, sleep well - even if you don't want to. But also take action on whatever arises, even if it feels difficult or alien to you.

@Leo Gura could you please clarify some of your recent jargon in the sense that it seems as if at least one layer has been added? Which words do you use synomynously (like consciousness & awareness or God & Mind?) and which of them have a distinct meaning/ are on other levels (like Truth & Awareness etc?)? Words like God, Mind, Awareness, Consiousness, Truth, Love, Being, Understanding, Knowing, Reality, Infinity (do you distinguish between magnitudes of infinity like in mathematics - the rational vs complex numbers, like infinity < alien infinity?)

I rewatched one of Leos older videos where he talks about the possibility of the possibility that you could encounter an alien as a mystical experience while tripping. I am super curious if anyone had any encounters and could share how they looked and acted like. I had a short encounter ones on truffles. I am not sure if it was only my imagination or actually real. Of course everything is imagination but it only "kind of felt real“ and not "oh shit this has to be real.“ Anyways here is how it was: It had a similar shape to an owl but it’s body was basically made out of insect material. Also where it’s head was were no eyes but only very very thin layers of transparent insect skin. (somewhat similar to the wings of the dragonfly). Like at least a couple hundred of them. And each layer had a slightly different coloring. That alien creature could move these layers. It could put them on and off. Each layer. And because there were so many of them it could create an almost infinite amount of slightly different colours. So it constantly changed its colours in its "face“. It almost felt kind of hypnotic but also really pretty. It felt like it wanted to communicate with me in that way. Of course I didn’t understand a thing. Would be cool to have an alien buddy who you could communicate with.

Yo my Yimpa. If you femboy well enough you can enter the Willytition but it will take a lot of effort to defeat a 2m tall Slavic alien. Valentin has refined tastes. 🫨

God realization and non dual awakenings feel to be like some sort of great equilizer for me, like you can disregard any experience by saying it's all God, which is valid in some way, but not necessarily the most helpful position to take Here's where I'm coming at this from, it's basically the fact that the more awakening/ mystical states I reach, the more complexity I seem to unravel, YES it is all God, but God likes to play with itself within forms, "stories" and frameworks and those are as valid ways for it to recognize itself as melting directly into the sun of its being, the forms and stories I'm reffering to could potentially include anything; The discovery of a "personal soul" that undergoes a reincarnation journey accross space and time (and yes it could be seen as illusory as the personal ego but in my experience it's still there), Paranormal activities (clairvoyance, clair audience, controlling matter and energy through the quantum field) Disincarnated entities, spirit guides, angels, aliens and alien intelligences Synchronities that simply break reality and that could fall on the verge of schizophrenia A soul's purpose being something other than realization, a "personal" soul could incarnate for the sake of learning anything whether it's courage, faith, proactivity, trust, love, selflesness..., and yes all these are stepping stones towards god realization but necessary non the less Direct DNA activations and rewriting, nervous system rewirings, the discovery of Akashic records Personal karma that transcends this one lifetime, soul contracts, souls reincarnating in groups to help each other fulfill their life missions 5D consciousness and beyond, vibrational levels ... And the list goes on and on, I know a lot of people may just consider a lot of these things to be just new age dogma(s), and tbh many are, and I don't advice anyone to believe in anything that hasn't been personally verified, I started out this journey being a radical non dualist, to the point where I didn't believe in anything outside of God as a singular infinity, there was no nuances, separations or experiences from my view, if you asked about a personal soul or reincarnation, I would just explain it away with God But I'm feeling that although that was not false in itself, radical non duality is still valid, I'm realizing with time that there many layers to truth/reality that could all be valid at once My question to finish this is, is there anyone in here with experiences along the lines of what I've described ? and why does no one seem to talk about these things ? I know a lot of bullshit has been superimposed on a lot of these things which made everything dilluted and took out a lot of validity to these things, but still there is a kernel of truth in what I'm gonna refer to as "dualistic awakening", there is value in this, but that's just my perspective I would love to know anyone's position on this matter

Great Blog post on "But Why Christianity?" It's the first solid comparative religion analysis I have seen from you. I would like to give some other interesting angles to see this from. Religion in its purest sense is an Awakening technology designed to achieve a particular set of states of consciousness which are assumed to be "the highest, most complete or best" There's an ideological and epistemically ignorant way of going about religion. There's also a proper way of framing religion where it becomes indispensable for building the blocks towards Absolute God from where you'll have to burn the inferior human base. In this sense, I find that religion for the proper mystic and philosopher allows delving into prior experiences from saints and derive principles and access to certain states of consciousness. For example, it would have taken me a lot to decipher myself the "Tao" it's a particular insight and consciousness property, yet it is reflected in Taoism, you can use the technology and hopefully not get entangled too much, get the superb Tao and deconstruct from your mind Taoism. I know I wouldn't be where I am if I wasn't standing in the shoulder of giants, like Sri Anandamayi Ma, Shivapuri Baba, Adidam or you Leo. To arrive to you, there was an unbroken study of mystics and religious techniques that holistically built up to higher levels of synthesis and purity and in such levels to the deconstruction of masters, religions and the labyrinthine Mind of God to break free into Infinite Consciousness. Having said this, I'd like to shift towards a conversation about being human. I've become aware that I share many Awakening values with you and that they also have lead me towards a furthering of what makes me human, towards more evolved alien mature ways of cognition, behavior and consciousness. In hardcore introspection I feel there's something out of tune, and in some way I see it also in you. I'm talking about such subtle matters that it's hard to even make my point across. Okay, let's assume to go hardcore in the opposite way of transcendentalism and limitlessness towards insane grounding and integration into the human frame. I've awoken so much and matured so much that my primal and animal humanness has been shadowed. I'm aware of the human frameworks and jails, yet I don't want this awareness to make me lose the connection, love, integration and joy of being a basic chimpanzee cleaning its ass in the jungle.

I realized I was taking for granted the fact that you are the only teacher who hasn’t crystallised on a single rigid model. I haven’t had the opportunity to thank you for being a constant source of epistemic novelty. It is what has largely prevented me from falling down formulaic model dynamics. Your alien awakenings were a really strong perturbation to my sense-making and a piece in the intellectual cascade that inspired the algorithmic improvements that made me rich.

I think I heard Leo say that in one of the videos, not a forum post. But regardless, the reason it didn't work is outlined in a recent blog post – God will not grant local/personal miracles (which morphing into an alien certainly qualifies as a miracle), not without very exceptional circumstances anyway. For that same reason Leo's self-healing endeavors didn't succeed – although that doesn't mean the health problems are permanent, maybe they are, or the time for healing hasn't come yet for whatever reason, I don't know. Virtually the only way God will grant a local miracle is if it serves the highest Love and Good. An alien transformation on camera doesn't serve any such purpose, at worst as OP points out it could cause chaos, or simply be a tool for Leo to prove something, maybe give an ego boost, in other words a selfish, or at least not entirely selfless motive. Thus far I've only been able to manifest one miracle (that's a long story), and I know it worked only because the desire came from a completely selfless place. Even if you think your motives are pure, God knows for sure, and if there's any trace of selfishness in there, that's a no-go. In several instances I thought if only X would happen, I could do so much good for the world with it, but that was a self-deception, completely transparent to God. Similarly, Jesus was able to perform miracles because those served a purpose. A sort of crude reasoning from God deciding to grant Jesus those powers would go something like "If he can heal the sick and walk on water, people will take him seriously, and will listen to his message of Love, thus improving the world". Of course those teachings have over time been corrupted into the ideology of Christianity, but that too is part of the larger evolutionary design. Just as any local miracle is ultimately indistinct from the "Just One Miracle" of God's existence, they're baked into it. It also works the other way around, I've become conscious of how I was given a certain ailment which I managed to cure only after learning some important lessons and going through many years of suffering. Same with the many difficulties and annoyances, past, present, and future, they all exist to grow and better me. Anyway, that's my 2¢ on the matter, and also a long-winded way to express a powerful insight/perspective: everything happens for a reason, don't fool yourself into thinking you know better than God, instead develop a trusting relationship with it, and your life will feel so much lighter and enjoyable.

Hi Leo. This comment made me worry about your safety. Leaving the alien stuff aside, did you notice anyone wanting to do harm to you? Did you receive threats? I mean, you never did wrong to anyone. You don't seem the kind of guy to have enemies. Who are those bad faith actors you mentioned? Please be safe. I personally love you. Without you I am certain that I'd have been dead for many years now.

See this is what makes me think you never thought that you would be able to make the video. If you care about your life posting a video of yourself transforming into an alien is one of the most dangerous things you can do. It just doesn't make sense.

It's not about being a freak or human understanding, but about the world plunging into chaos upon seeing your transformation. How could you even contemplate sending it out? Being the biggest freak in the world would be detrimental to your survival. Dutch colonists used to put South African women with "freakishly" big asses in cages like they're animals in a zoo. Being a freak is not about being misunderstood by lowly humans, its about the survival of you and your family. Transforming into an alien would get you killed by evangelicals, hunting you down with guns, for in their mind they've seen a real life demon transformation. Do you really not get what I'm pointing at here?

If you experienced whatever Leo did, you'd have done the same thing. Have you had a reality shattering experiences? Becoming an Alien feels absolutely real in that state. As real as the feeling of your feet of the floor right now. Not defending the claims he made, but if you don't know the nature of such an experience you would be strawmanning Leo.

Okay, but did you not think of the ramifications of that if it would work, that history would change in an instant, and you would be the biggest freak in the world? that people would go looking for you? If I thought I could transform into an alien, i'd keep it a secret purely for my survival. Thinking of sharing it is more bizarre than thinking you are able to do it IMO. This is my last question. I'll stop hammering about it, I understand it's not the most gentle way of going about it, but the scope of the claim does warrant this amount of scrutiny.

I haven't, but I am assuming Leo was posting while sober about his alien transformation (posting sober is a rule of the forum), so it doesn't make any difference. I'm extremely open minded but also extremely skeptical. The deconstruction of sober consensus reality is something entirely different than going through insane stuff while tripping. "That said, I myself wonder what makes the manifestation of a psychedelic state into baseline so hard, even with Leo's level of Awakenings. My current understanding is that each level of Consciousness has a certain coherence to it, accessible only from that particular state of Mind." My theory is that the body is in itself a psychedelic. The paradox of realizing that matter is unreal, on psychedelics, is that you are having such an awakening only because you ingested a certain piece of matter, namely the psychedelic chemical. this would explain why Leo doesn't understand why he always comes back even when going into entirely bodyless states. the body still exists because he is it. only upon physical death is your consciousness fully released. Leo still being alive in our dream means it'd be impossible for him to have gone fully away. What do you mean with "each level of Consciousness has a certain coherence to it, accessible only from that particular state of Mind." ? and with this "The "if Jesus/ aliens appeared, you wouldn't even know it" type thing. The dynamics between states, i.e the relative ontology, is highly non-trivial. " ? It seems like you're saying some profound stuff here, but i'm not sure how to read it.

love and empathy is scrutiny of bizarre claims that were never followed up upon. Transforming into an alien is a claim a 1000 times more bizarre than landing on the moon. Afaik, our consensus reality still beholds to the laws of physics. it's precisely what makes the dream feel real. transforming into an alien on camera would break all notions of physics and consensus reality and change history in a second. we would basically start living in an irl fantasy world. its incomparable with landing on the moon. shaming me for criticizing bizarre claims is an awful argument. I don't care the forum is free. conspiracy theories online are also free. Poison is free. I'm actually doing proper scientific inquiry here. The forum is amazing and I'm actually showing it respect by bringing up these topics.

I am not entitled, I just state standards that are normal for students to have. Do you understand how open minded you have to be to even listen to your work about consciousness, God, all that stuff? with your friends and family ridiculing you for it? only for you to state you have literal transformative powers and end up not going through with it, feeling like I should not have been open minded. Thinking that chaos wouldn't ensue around with the release of your transformation video is not a high state of consciousness, but a low one IMO. It's not mockery, but a critique of someone with educational authority, which by default is the relation between a student and teacher. You critiqued Connor Murphy when he went through his stuff (rightfully so), even calling him a zen devil. But with your stuff we're not supposed to criticize, because you project is as mockery? It didn't write it as a mockery, I guess you still don't realize how bizarre those claims were. You never addressed them afterwards, so a critique is warranted. I'm not entitled to any of your work. It's a mistake and a projection to assume that I think I do. When someone is clearly teaching stuff which isn't true and thus misleading, I am entitled to speak out against that though. I am still very interested in what made you think you could transform. It's so radically different than anything you talked about prior, which basically didn't envolve any powers in the dream. Was it just delusion and bad judgement on your part? did you actually reach a stage where such magic was possible? I'm still open minded about it, but since you never addressed it afterwards and just swept it under the rug, is what makes me suspicious and irritated. It's extremely sloppy and treats us as a gullible audience, like we are just some Sadhguru followers listening to our guru and not question his bizarre claims, and just forget it ever happened. It would be epistemologically sloppy of me to not question it. You are a teacher telling us that behind 200 trips lie something that noone has ever seen. If that same person makes an extreme claims of alien transformation and then fails to do it, why would I trust him with going to do 200 trips? It's like a medieval Portugese man pointing at the Atlantic Ocean, and saying there is an entire continent on the other side, and the next day he claims he can turn into a dragon. Why would I still try to cross the Ocean? Why are you mad at me for criticizing your bizarre claims? You were the one who posted about it. You could have easily waited till it worked out or not and then posted it (even though posting it would be insane in itself). Instead you sloppily posted around the forum with insane claims. And you never retracted it or talked about it, what happened during that time. A simple "Forget about what I said, I was in an unstable mental state" would have been enough. By not doing that you are basically saying that it's still possible that your transformation etc might have been valid. So hence my critique. And you're getting mad at me for questioning this? What, I'm supposed to just be a gullible little boy and let you make all these absolutely bizarre claims without questioning you on it? such gullibility goes a 180 degrees in to what you have always taught us. And you criticize Sadhguru's followers and other new age followers for it. Saying it's just mockery feels like gaslighting. And again, we're not talking about some vague claims of telepathy or remote viewing here. We're literally talking about a physical transformation into an alien being here. Hollywood stuff. What do you expect of me? Instantly calling me entitled is such an empty argument. Of course we as your audience are not entitled to anything. Yet we are also the only reason your entire business exists. In the same way you are also not entitled to not be critiqued by your audience. Not critiquing your episode is actually the biggest mockery of your work, because it's like a fly in an otherwise great soup. Leaving the fly in there would be not doing a serious investigation into your work. You have shared some of the best wisdom I've ever read in my life. A critique like this is a respect of your work, not a mockery.

That's why I feel sorry for anyone who still takes him seriously. What's worse, he loves to call everyone a grifter, but he is going to grift his followers into believing they can achieve this 'advanced alien consciousness' by paying for a course. It's quite pathetic honestly.

I missed those videos but Leo is hardly alone in these things. It's like breakingthewall said, the mystical opening leads to many such direct realizations like this. Leo works in the nondual space, but there are a lot of mystical spiritual people who are more in the alien space. Honestly, the idea that you could transform into an alien, I believe you could look in a mirror on psychedelics and see yourself in your Pleadian form, easily. Just the same as you can look in the mirror and see the faces of your ancestors morph across your face. Now that, I have seen first hand. Could I replicate it on camera? I don't think so. But I have watched many many people claiming to channel aliens, and many of them actually LOOK alien like in their facial structure and hair cuts. And it's just like Leo said, these things are simultaneously accessible to the mystic, and too weird to ever translate into a sober human lifestyle that could become commonplace on this planet, so they remain in the realm of what our society labels psychosis, superstition, and myth. I have been flirting with psychosis throughout my life, but somehow never quite fall in. I must not be prone to schizophrenia, because I have most certainly spent months in the same mental space that leads people to believe that helicopters are following them, and that they're space Jesus, so they should stand on the street corner smoking crack at 3am, and yet I didn't ever experience my life falling apart like that. It just seemed like musing to me. I'd do some acid and see some cool shit, and then I'd just go to bed and head to work on Monday. But meanwhile my sense of reality was very abnormal. I'm lucky and grateful that I was able to simply muse philosophical about these things, rather than falling into psychosis or schizophrenia.

In my experience the line between genuine awakening and psychosis is small when the only thing you have reference to is yourself. I thought I had awakening experiences when in fact looking back now I had HPPD. Parts of my mind didn't function anymore on a daily basis and I glorified it as "being", "no-self" and "collapsing of distinction". Even if this is awakening, do enough grounding. It's important. Even if this is awakening, do notice the negative motivation which pushes you towards the psychedelic substance to escape from and avoid this reality. It will bite you. Like you I had strong egoic impulses to not be this person anymore. I asked people on this forum and here are some helpful quotes to distinguish what you experience: "Awakening impacts your cognition positively, and it adds more clarity to your life. The opposite with mental illnesses." "The difference is quality of life, if you don't move forward after a period of time and your life gets worse, it is mental illness." "There can be thousands of alien and weird states of consciousness, some of them quasi-mystical, but not really the same as full on God-consciousness." "[Awakening] is not a loss of personal identity but an expansion of your sense of self." "The difference is that [mental illness] doesn't make me go "Holy fuck! Me and the universe are one!" It's more like "wait... this is weird.""