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It's like tuning a guitar. Why tune a guitar? To hear nice music! If you love every last bit you are aware of in the now, there is no option but bliss. The trick is not to let the mind convince awareness with stories that what is right here right now is not loved. Awareness naturally merges with/loves everything, including that pain over there. Can we love the pain? Only if we remain as awareness! ? Separate from thought stories, Merge with Now, don't cheat on the now. Don't cheat on the now by believing the serpentine stories of mind. All is as it should be and que sera sera.
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doronshadmi replied to arberor's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hi arberor, Please pay attention that you describe your experience by opposite aspects: 1) The smallest thing (point). 2) The biggest thing (infinite expansion). By (1) alone you may feel claustrophobia. By (2) alone you may feel agoraphobia. In both cases you are in fight or flight state of mind (emergency state of mind, which may be experienced as anxiety). But you see dear arberor, (1) and (2) are actually two extreme aspects of the same thing. The same thing can be described (by using an analogy, which is not the thing in itself) as a sea, where its calm aspect is unbounded and non-local (known as (2)), and each one of its wavy aspects is bounded and local (known as (1)). If you get (1) and (2) in terms of a sea, you are not trapped anymore by emergency states of mind (you are the sea and you are your own Home (you are naturally fearless)). From this non-dual sea awareness there is nothing but an everlasting bliss. -
Haven't heard the term bliss used related to life purpose before but i haven't been fearful to do what i wanted to do related to "life purpose" but i also think it might be because i might see passion as something else i see it as you need to get really good at something before you become passionate about it(craftman mindset vs the passion mindset by cal newport) and pratice to become better at what you do have never been something i have experienced as something to fear but it is something that is difficult to do(maybe only if i had to perform for other people as what i want to do is related to composing music)
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Warning. Just out of the trip so expect lots of grammar mistakes. My hands are shaking right now! What I've seen can not be unseen. Part of me wants to but part of me is grateful for it. I started trip with powerful meditation and determined mindset to experience complete ego death. It happened. It hit me hardest possible and I completely surrendered. I could not even imagine that I had an ability to surrender so much. It completely destroyed me - I vanished. I had no past no future - only present. My consciousness become awaken. I was no longer body - I became awaken from my body. I saw all the figures and possibilities - it is limitless. I can't even describe all this as much as I want to. I experienced the unity of all the forms. I also saw how time does not exist - it's all about from which "angle" consciousness becomes aware of the form. In the middle of my trip I started to write in the trance. It was happening without me involved this is what I wrote: "all kinds of forms offer me hands to shake from all sides. They smile at me, they laugh at me some of them are sad. All there is is limitless game of forms. It has no beginning and no end... Time does not exist in this game of forms only "viewing" angle changes from which consciousness experiences these forms. Time is frozen - all there is is NOW! that is the only thing that exists and it is infinite! This game of forms is the most real thing there is and pointless illusion at the same time. It all happens in me. Who am I? I am all there is. why do I exist? only to exist. Experience is being! This is all pointless. does it scare me? it does not because pointlessness equals to absolute freedom. When there is no ultimate goal there comes the only, true unconditional freedom! Am I alone? No because there is no me and only thing there is - absolute infinity. Figures offer me hands to shake they are all me and they all have their ego sides. We met here in this dimension and we are all one. I am in the bliss and unconditional love to the unity of forms. It is such a bliss that it is killing me and I can't stay here infinitely - I need my form. Can I describe all this for ego dimension? No it is impossible : ( " I've seen there faces and figures which I've never seen in my life. Forms and figures were shaking hands and hugging each other. Everyone and everything was celebrating freedom from their ego sides including my true self. We all had understanding of our unity and that we are same consciousness. for solid 4-5 hours I was in this trance state and time to time I was coming back to my physicality. In that other dimension I also felt the unbreakable link and connection to my physical world sort as these two dimensions are one and ultimately connected. They are the two sides of the same coin! When I came back from this trance I hugged my room walls and felt unconditional love to them. I was so grateful that my reality exists in the exact form as it is.
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Blissout replied to Will Bigger's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes, I already said it a few topics back, I am experiencing most of the day bliss and love. You don't have to listen to me though, there are great Yogi's that have used this method all the way to self realization within 3 years usually -
@Pelin @elias of course you need to be practical, but I think Leo's course teaches to Follow Your Bliss. Maybe you'll run in to some initial troubles, but you will find your object of mastery sooner, nail out your 10,000 hours sooner, and thereby unlock all the security/comfort/independence needs. So my advice would be to follow your heart first and worry about the independence etc later.
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Thank you for the experience of bliss! Better person?? According to who? You? Me? Some president? Some Guru? WHO!? - There is no who. Don’t look for joy, that’s procrastination. It’s not of this universe in that material way. It can’t be seen or found. BE loving, GIVE love, that’s YOUR joy! It’s an experience, not a college degree. You can do it now, right now, or you can proscastinate. Text something nice to someone. Start! The rest of your questions will disappear, as this IS tuning in to yourself. You’re gonna like the way it feels, it is infinitely guaranteed! In answer to your last question, I know much of what I am and what I am not, so much in fact, that I know what you are and what you are not. IF you’re thinking “he doesn’t know anything about me”, you’re right, within a material physical paradigm. The mindfuck that awaits you, is that I DO know - because I know that I - know nothing. Start small. Buy your grandma flowers TODAY. Tell the lady at the gas station you appreciate her work, and the place is nice. Look at your hand and recap all it has enabled you to do. Your feet?! The possibilities?! The miracle is discovering you’ve been in a miracle the whole time! The game has been afoot since you fell out of a vagina, assuming that’s even true.
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@IAmJohn Let go of the idea of being a better person. Look for consistent joy instead. Trust your inner guidance. Tune into it and listen to it, take it’s direction above all thinking. If something feels less that joy, let alone terrible, then stop!, sit, and let go of that thought tree, plant another ‘wanted’ seed, breath, be patient. With regards to addiction to the experience of her - addiction is the opposite of connection. Look to her, or anyone else, for joyful experiences, not connection. Connect within, alone. Everyone is either asking for love or giving love. The experience as an entity giving love is pure consistent joy. It is selflessness, as in, the focus point is loving, not a thing that is receiving. Surrender your self in exchange for the experience. There is an experience of whole in no self, pure bliss. But to get there, there is an experience of the practices. This is the way to discover what you really are is whole already. You don’t need anything or anyone. Let them be the icing on the cake.
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Blissout replied to Charlotte's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I do however experience loads of bliss, love, happiness, joy and ecstatic energies. However even if you don't experience all that, still doesn't mean you are any further away to become self realized. PS: check out AWA (michael langford) site for more -
egoless replied to egoless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This or that it does not change the fact that we still live in this dimension and even after Enlightenment there is no escape from this body. If life was meant to experience in a relative manifestations why don't just fkin do it instead of trying to become god and at the same time dead god. Who said that becoming the god is the only viable true path? What if it is other way around. I had a discussion on this topic with my friend and he said yes even if it brings me eternal bliss it will kill me and I will no longer be a human. And with all the suffering and negative emotions I love to be a human because this is what makes me feel other positive emotions too and that's what make them so much more valuable... Maybe experiencing life is all that matters. And within this life you just try to be the best according to your views. -
LaucherJunge replied to egoless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@egoless The explenation is that the killer is not who is evil the circumstances, his environment, his conditioning and thousands other reasons made him do this, a being in a state of peace or bliss will not do such things. What would you do, if you were in the shoes of such a person, maybe you would be doing the same thing after all you have been trough? Without the evil, people would not appreciate peace as much as they do now, what do you think make us stop those things like slavery and such? The evil comes back and back to show us how we can improve and become absolutely peaceful. The faster we learn our lessons the less evil there will be, so by fighting evil you will just produce more evil instead of going the path of peace, of non-violence. -
AlwaysBeNice replied to MiracleMan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You have to get a sense of what this is about and then just practice, do what works/feels good to you, then just keep going and the results will come and carry u forward, then listen to something sometimes if you feel inspired or you want to become motivated. But this is really not so much about learning, listening to stuff again and again can be fine to recondition the mind but it's not a very effective path as apposed to raw practice though it can supplement it if you feel lazy or if you feel like watching something, but indeed it can also certainly almost harm you if you are starting, live very much in the mind and want a solid grip/path on things. Because yeah, a 100 legit masters can say 200 different things on the same thing! And they are all true! And all false!! It's because this path is not about logic or relative truth, gotta learn to accept the paradox and go your own unique path, all words are relative at the end of the day. I know it's hard for us western geeks, but you have to learn to throw out the mind essentially, and use it well at the same time! "After enlightenment nothing is serious, everything becomes just play", so don't worry about it, this is about YOU! And your discovery of yourself! Beyond words right into bliss. - OT: If it's about picking a guru IRL (which would be a great idea), then look around and try to stick with 1 or maybe 2 I think, and learn to go deep with them, which is also more about friendship and love than actually learning. -
Look not going to get into ego games or the inner psychology of the issue. What I suggest is doing a physical activity you actually enjoy . For me it is cycling or simply taking long walks or swimming but the important thing is that you acutely enjoy it . We do things we enjoy more and with less subconscious resistance if we hold a affinity for them. Follow you bliss instead of forcing yourself to do something you truly do not want to do .... good luck
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WelcometoReality replied to Charlotte's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Charlotte Yeah and this work gets you even more sensitive. Not all bliss and happiness as I expected. -
Blissout replied to molosku's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I simply all the time put my attention on the I-feeling. This results in me feeling all the time bliss, love, joy, happiness and it is divine The self is eternal love -
Into the wild - the last moment when Chris realizes that "Happiness is only real when shared"... He pursued happiness into the wild, away from modern society, technology, burdens to feel the presence and get happiness from the simplicity of life and nature. The last moment though it seems like he deeply regrets his choice of ultimate loneliness. Is that true? Does true happiness only exist when shared with the loved ones? Then how does it correspond to Enlightenment idea. Enlightenment journey requires ultimate loneliness and it predicts unconditional inner happiness and bliss in the end of the road.. But, what if the inner happiness without loving and sharing it with others does not exist? It is so paradoxical but Enlightenment seems like the most selfish work one can do but at the same time it seems the most self-sacrificing/egoless work one can do... Maybe the Balance - The golden mean is the key to true happiness?!
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@Preetom @Dan94 ?? I went Brian WIlson for years in a room with my guitar and caprice 24. So my advice is from the value of hindsight. Literally forgot my first name in madness and depression. Now, I play and sing and am legit not there / zoned / bliss. Hope it helps. Remember to stop and love right now. Always.
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Hey, I'm somebody who works in Hollywood media (even though I always disdained it) and pursued music composition and videoart privately for 10 years, feeling very unsuccessful in my personal projects despite having a couple shows, and very ashamed of my professional impact throughout. I have been trying to recover from ongoing depression and anxiety for a very, very long time. The study and practice of personal development has been promising, but I can see the war between the following two paradigms is making my head spin in a lot of indecisiveness about how to make moves. I experience a lot of indecision and doubt when thinking about what I really want and how to get it, and then when I make moves, I very often regret them, and just basically live on a rollercoaster of psychic pain that I would quite like to jump off. I'm hoping someone has some insights into how to reconcile this, what is kind of THE big question in philosophy anyway: PARADIGM 1 (THE PARADIGM OF BEING A CHIMPY HUMAN) Human beings like and dislike certain things, and have social needs. Misery is the result of spending your time doing things that you do not authentically enjoy, and not having your biological and/or relational needs as a human met. Working in the media makes me feel ungrounded, cheap, anxious, lonely, depressed, and ashamed of the addiction, self hate, and lies I am contributing to. and Working on my own media ALSO makes me feel ungrounded, lonely, anxious, depressed, and also incompetent and Going out to art/media based events makes me feel ungrounded, anxious, lonely, and depressed, because the content does nothing for me, I am reminded of my disappointment in my own work efforts, and my interactions there relentlessly reinforce that I do not belong, do not appreciate, and am not appreciated and I have no real friendships, real romance, or way to successfully vibe with women, because my vibe is bad, because I hate my work, which also makes me feel worse in itself and The benefits of self help and spiritual practice elude me because the rest is creating too much anxiety THEREFORE I need to figure out what PURPOSE feels good and juicy to me and I need to figure out A WAY TO SPEND MY EFFORT / WORK that feels satisfying and joyous to do AND/OR I need to find fun / enjoyment, and the meeting of my relational needs somehow, regardless of my work, and then I’ll feel better about the work I already do, or have more clarity about what work I enjoy PARADIGM 2 (THE PARADIGM OF BEING A TRANSCENDENT GHOST) The pursuit of happiness in work, relationships, hobbies, drugs, entertainment, and other outer things is actually the source of suffering. You suffer precisely because you bought the lie that you need conditions to be met to feel good. The real and only cure for excessive suffering is to surrender your conquest, and float back to your default position of bliss, which is your deepest nature, and is spiritual, sentient, and eternal. Surrender is the only path to substantial peace, love, and inspired action in life. My career is actually a goldmine of creative and impactful possibilities. I am squandering a goldmine and a decade of developing skills because I don’t have access to inner love. and I am surrounded by potentially deep friendships, and it’s me that chooses not to develop them out of depression and detachment to inner light and Dating is not working out for me because women can immediately tell that I do not feel good, which is again because I don’t know how to spiritually fill myself up, not because my work life is a big gigantic failure on my part to succeed in the past, or find the “right” work for me now. and Of course spiritual practice is going to lead me there, dummy, just do it more and take it very seriously So, these two paradigms pointing in exactly opposite directions, I don’t actually believe either of them. Paradigm 2 is convincing because even when I’m totally alone in the woods, even when I have no work I have to do, even when i am surrounded by people, i still feel like shit. And so while I’m trying to take action to feel better and make a life I like, I’m simultaneously believing that absolutely nothing will do it. I want to add also that I've spent most of the last year saying no to jobs to work on myself and finding inner light, but I'm finding that my inner peace and my flow in my outer life has really gotten worse rather than better.
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Dodo replied to AlwaysBeNice's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Deepest gratitude for sharing this song. It's bathing my whole being with bliss and joy. -
Natasha replied to Alexo45's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Sounds like what Eckhart Tolle also had which led him to enlightenment. Because they listen to the conventional system that tells them this state needs to be deemed bad (when in fact it's threatening to the system), And then start loading you with prescription psych drugs that brings them tons of profit. If people live in constant state of bliss, peace, and love, how would the Big Psych/Pharma be makng their billions? Thus brainwashing propaganda. Nothing new. -
Blissout replied to Alexo45's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
They probably experienece something else completely different . What you read about those symptoms have nothing to do with that . Looking inward brings peace, bliss, love , liberation until self realization occurs -
Blissout replied to Alexo45's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Most likely it is. I havent been practicing attention on the self for very long and I am almost constantly in bliss all day. Many people practice it wrongly though, they keep asking them self questions and repeating "I am". But in truth what Ramana taught and jnanji yogis practiced is constant attention on the feeling of you "I-feeling" I-sense" Repeating a mantra keeps you in the realm of thoughts. -
Alexo45 replied to Alexo45's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If i Google my symptoms, i get the results of being depersonalized/dissociative. Thing is it gets noted as something extremely terrifying or unpleasant, which brings anxiety attacks with it and stuff, i'm not experiencing that at all. I'm in fucking bliss that's all. But yea, i'm going to stop explaining stuff because i even find it hard to explain. "I" probably sound like "i'm" just going crazy or something, Lol. "I" even have to remind myself of what a thought/thinking is like at this point. -
You are addicted to suffering (so am I) because you haven't experienced the peaceful bliss of present awareness. Once you practise that, all your suffering will gradually vanish. I myself had one moment of awareness (long time ago) where I could clearly see the illusionary nature of suffering. It is so scary what our minds do to us when being unconscious.
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Blissout replied to How to be wise's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I think you are to stuck on the idea of thoughts. You can be enlightned and have no suffering and be in a 24/7 bliss state with thoughts. What more do you want?
