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As a side note - the world has no correlation to your spiritual journey Your soul family and your romantic partners and pets and all that, these are souvenirs on your journey, they are your supplement, your nutrient, your fuel, they are your collectibles that give you companionship and strength and vigor to have the best life, but they are not permanently attached to your spirit, they might still entertain you in the afterlife and your spirit might be attached to your romantic spouse and pet, looking after them, wanting to meet them again in the next spawn or rebirth/reincarnation, yet over many respawns, they will slowly detach from your spirit and you'll have to forget them eventually in your spirit form and continue the journey alone. It's very tempting to bring them along because you had such a darling time with them, but unfortunately every spirit has to journey alone after the tunnel. You have to kiss them a final goodbye at some point and walk out the tunnel. They have their own journey (just like yours) although they will remember you too. This is the reason why soulmates meet again and again in every birth one way or another, because their spiritual signatures keep colliding. These spiritual signatures carry the memories of their times together in their past lives/spawns.. They come to merge again. And want to see each other, even become husband and wife again. But sometimes this isn't easy, they could be far away from each other in different cultures and countries and in a pathetic materialistic reality their union becomes impossible due to geography or age differences or cultural differences or anything that keeps them from coming together. Even shallow fights or other unfortunate happenstances.

"All men come back to bodily life again if they leave a residue of karma. All karma that is not brought to an end by bringing the mind's bondage to the ego-thought to an end, makes reincarnation inescapable." - 17 "The more I reflect about my global travels, observations, and studies, the more I hold firmly to this truth: 'Character is fate.'" - 46 "We ought not to ask men to express qualities of character and mind which neither experience nor birth enable them to express." - 76 "If it were true that a bad man must always remain bad, where would the hope be for mankind? But in the perfect wisdom of the Infinite Mind, human lives are so arranged that the bad man will go on garnering the untoward results of his deeds until his mind, first subconsciously but later consciously, perceives the logical and causal connection between his act and his suffering and begins the attempt to control his evil tendencies. Both this education and this effort will continue through many births for a single one would be too short in time, too poor in opportunity, for such a total reformation to be achieved." - 225 "Even those who are well-intentioned and spiritually minded make many mistakes in life simply because they cannot see the unfortunate results to which their wrong decisions and actions must necessarily lead. Only experience can lead to their correction and only reincarnation can give enough experience." - 226

Why I wrote this? 1. Sharing my own experience, just sharing. 2. Making them in text, giving text and explanation about this paranormal thing help me to make the paranormal experience more on solid, so the sensation is not molding, change or move. 3. Maybe some of you folks have same experience and have a guide to me on what happen. Problem in sharing paranormal experience: How to explain some experience is very difficult in language because it is very experience based. Sharing on practical level oftentimes doesn't help at all. I think one is better explaining this paranormal thing as one grow older because this paranormal I found is very philosopical and the quality of information on this subject related to maturity. Attempt to share the paranormal when one have very little experience in life caused on very distorted look on the paranormal, it very easily misunderstood. A reference of my paranormal experience: Terence Hines in his book Pseudoscience and the Paranormal (2003) wrote: The paranormal can best be thought of as a subset of pseudoscience. What sets the paranormal apart from other pseudosciences is a reliance on explanations for alleged phenomena that are well outside the bounds of established science. Thus, paranormal phenomena include extrasensory perception (ESP), telekinesis, ghosts, poltergeists, life after death, reincarnation, faith healing, human auras, and so forth. The explanations for these allied phenomena are phrased in vague terms of "psychic forces", "human energy fields", and so on. This is in contrast to many pseudoscientific explanations for other nonparanormal phenomena, which, although very bad science, are still couched in acceptable scientific terms. My actual experience: 1. Sensing: I can sense very clearly energy. I cannot see the energy, some folks can see the colour of aura or something like that. I just sense it. I love the word 'smell' for energy, I can smell people energy, corporation, organization, country, a phone, motorcycle, spiritual practice and human collective energy. Smell defined how the the subject will react to external stimulus, quality, durability and the systems they are in. I oftentimes predict the future like timetraveller but in pseudoscience. 2. My body is very sensitive to energy. When I placed to some place that have different energy or not match (I dont know what it is actually why that happen). I can have very weird sensation like some crawling sensation under the skin, geometrical shit happen on my min and every geometrical have subtle meaning (beautiful but, oh goddamn why there is a random pattern that stuck in my yead.. I can't sleep with those pattern, I wonder why there is no geometic girl), alien like pattern thinking (psychedelic alike on sober). Some energy can affect my whole system of thinking until the energy inside my body is getting 'cleared'. When its not got cleared/ energy stuck I can have difficult on concetration/ focus splitting and weird sensation on my head (please get out, I need to work). The reason is still a question. 3. I can copy paste someone ability. It happen naturally. When I see my ex can read people, I just see the way she talk and keep focusing on it. After some time I can use her ability and enhance it for myself with my own style. 4. I can see people ability. (para ability) When I grow older I see more clearly that people have different ability. I can tell when people have good ability on leadership, have good big talk (hollow) but can hypnotize people, I smell alien like ability inside some people head (like Leo haha). In short, ability is feature on the soul. You know how hero have ability in every MOBA/MMO game? I see its the same here, there is huge variety and quality. I see people can develop some weird ability, it can be very deadly and effective for survival. And the others is can be very gentle and nurturing. I have some category on the ability based the quality: S+ (alien like, not human), S (wisdom based on humanity), A (clever for survival), B (not really interesting). S+ Alien quality have very different meaning system of things, they work as they want without any good and bad. But still they have purpose of the ability. S Wisdom based on humanity have more feminine essence in it but incorporate the purpose of humanity to become more whole, empowerment of all in subtle or very direct manner. A Survival ability that one acquired can be very masculine and seems as harsh. It have pure masculine essence. No good and bad. I see them like a sharp equipment of the soul, very black. People that have this abilitiy and have purpose can be very sucessful in pursuing their goal. B I don't want to talk about it because there is no much to learn from the essence of B series. Generally the lower the category the less wisdom it have. 5. Seeing how mature of one soul is. There is a difference between smart people and mature people. Even when one is called mature from a society standard, there is a distinction between mature as a soul and as a person. In this forum I see a some of those, from the typing or from their picture profile. (hide yours from me :p) Mature people can see things intercontextually, its corellated by inner character. Character of the soul I say. People can be placed in very bad situational enviroment, real character will shine there. The eye of mature soul cannot be faked. It is there wherever they are, whatever their belief is. A soul become clear when one truly accept who they are, how they truly think and do. After the acceptance of the self, the soul can continue to grow and getting more EXP. How the soul can learn without the acceptance of the fullest being? When the soul is not fully accepted, the learning process become more difficult. I see desire to fit in is a big mistake because it is fake. Belief have little to do with soul growth. Because every belief that one choose is correlated with their own soul experience. Big soul naturally will leaning to belief that match their own soul. "The plant leaning to the sun, is natural. " 6. How things affect the way I see. Belief, trauma, knowledge and all sort of fear can affect the way I see. How this paranormal things works: I won't explore this paranormal psychic things furthermore, its very wild, unstable and can make my mouth little bit smiling but in insane way if I try to activate some sensation that I even don't understand what it is. I think I need a guide to make myself understand this things better in safe way. I don't want to use it too much, what I can see sometimes is very crazy and have nothing to do with survival, I think because it is pure. But for now this all enough, making money will be more beneficial for now I found that some of things just learned without I need to learn it consciously, in some case I just aware the ability is sit there the whole time but I don't have the pointer and someone to say what it is and what it is function. So what can we call it? Paranormal awakening? hahaha. I cannot be forced to see things. When it getting forced too much by ego or especially external need to see something they can have advantage of. Forcing this lead to distortion of the truth, or maybe I just rarely excercise this for other people advantage, and btw... why I need to be seen as weirdo thoo haha. Using it more meaning learning it more. I think my adolescent mentality is not ready for the next thing of the development. Some of my own paranormal things I feel like still undercover. How I see this paranormal things in my life for NOW: Actually, I don't want to see this experience as paranormal things. I WANT TO see this as mental illnes or something in psychology field but I found they did'nt have good answer to, at least for now. Treating this experience with metal illness lens just make things worse. I feel with those lens I ignore a lot of the experience with the narrow lens. I feel I need to have my own lens to see this things. Saying it is paranormal seems give the experience more mystery and my own making sense is getting depth, rather than simplification. How I describe my paranormal experience: 1) The awareness of the raw smells of things. Smell = pure energy. What is pure energy? Analogy: You put your hands behind you, you don't see them right? but can you feel your hand? you feel the energy. When I see something most people cannot see, I feel the energy like you feel your own hand. 2) The one soul feature that most people don't have. History: Family: My grandpa is caretaker of an Old Mountain in Java. He often becoma a leader in some sort of spirit worship ritual things, I see the purpose is good.. for the good fortune in the village. Villager often come to see my grandpa for healing and a guide. Some people say my grandpa is not usual person, he have a gift and some say the gift is go down to me. But when I trying to talk about what I see with him, he didnt get it ? Elementary School: I am naturally inclined in the paranormal area, I see this as bad thing mostly. I got very different thought pattern than most people: knowing the answer but don't know why or what to answer, I have more mature thinking fetish (not embodied thinking)- so when I was child it was very stupid because I focus on searching some kind of whole thinking not survival. I cannot think straightly, I cannot do basic thinking when I was child. It was very difficult because anything that I think have abstract energy on there and take my focus away. Junior High School - Senior High School : I think this paranormal thing have something to do with mental health. I always thinking that way and I got no answer. University: I have trauma things that I don't aware of on that time. I think that is very highly related before. I found that it had nothing to do with trauma. Trauma is different subject. But does trauma affect the paranormal experience? Yes. It distort it to survive the trauma things. In Uni I mostly healed from my trauma and the paranormal things still happening. In Uni I meet some people that have paranormal stuff: One person say to me that something special laid behind my hand, they can see some pattern in my hand but I can't see it even with my magnifying glass. Another person say that I am is like some kind of a god choosen one, I don't explore his idea. I getting turned off by the way he talk first and shut it up. -THREAD UNFINISHED, will be a continuation and editing tomorrow- My english is not perfect, but god will love it anyway. If you don't understand what I was talking about, take this things as a joke :-p

This obviously contradicts what Leo says. He claims that if you are murdered you stay in a dark limbo state after death for 1000+ years, same with suicide or any accidental death? Apparently the only safe why to die to assure a "rebirth" and not hell is to die in your sleep. Why does he say this? How would he know?

Here are my two cents on Karma. Reincarnation cases done by Stevensson and Tucker, religious cases of posessions and other cases described by Allan Kardec make me believe that although we share the same essence (we are dissociations of Universal Mind as Bernardo Kastrup puts it), we continue our lives after death of physical body - our intelligence and memory continue. If you lived your life as a generally "good person", you won't experience much trauma in your next life. Also you won't experience being a dog after your death as a human, because that wouldn't give you any new experiences essential to "level up". In this view apparently separated parts of Consciousness are on their infinite journey towards complete unification. We are the same spirit, but because of different life experiences we form different souls, which are evolving using bodies as instruments of learning and experiencing life.

I want to describe my interpretation of the mechanics of the Karma system. I believe Karma is definitely similar to an ironic event, it sums up to, do unto others what would be done unto you or as TOOL would say "Do unto others what has been done to you." There's two experiences in reality, birth and death, there's also a belief that reincarnation is real but whether you believe in it or not its really not relevant for consciousness. The persona is the character or role you play in life, your personality or how you act towards others, It's pretty much an act. The persona is illusory to consciousness and makes the mistake of thinking it is actually the persona. I'ts not the ego its just a trickery of the mind, in other words you play different roles through your experience of birth and re-birth. Consciousness is doing this forever, a very repetitious nature, and is quite possible that you may have experience every single persona that ever existed through the eras of time. You are born into the world and what you do to it will have an impact on you and no one else. Bad Karma is simply, I hurt you, and If you hurt others or harm the world (leaving it in a worst shape than you found it). Eventually you will end up playing the role of the person that you hurt and experience a world that you destroyed. You can relate to this, how many times has someone else made you cry? Good Karma can lead to more good karma. You're born into a world that takes time to understand and you have the power to make someone else's life better and when you die, you did all you could to make the world better for future generations. That's my view of a Karmic system, take from the world put back into it and improve it for your future self.

Would be nice to get @Leo Gura's views on all this? I updated my post, so check if you've missed anything. So basically you're saying.. "I feel this is true, so I know it is"? As a Green kid my views were pretty much identical to yours. I "felt" that reincarnation, souls, karma, etc. must be real. But that's just religion 2.0. These are not things you can believe for or against, that's naiive. They're much more complicated than existing absolutely or not existing absolutely.

I feel like some people are more apt to remember their true nature as God because they've been through many reincarnation cycles before. You may hear people referencing themselves as "starseeds" or "wanderers" or recalling memories from their past lives. A lot of people hear this and just interpret it as egoism but if you ask me the crazy woo woo people are onto something.

@Carl-Richard No, I meant other people posting their spawn count on the forum. They can't just know intuitively if Leo said that the phychic didn't know his own spawn count. It might not actually be a joke but the numbers seem random. I'm assuming that reincarnation and spawn count are the same thing and the quiz that I took about that does not even match these results and I'm not even sure if the quiz has enough range of results to do so. Also, why are we talking about this if Leo is not even sure if this is true? Could this actually be dogma? Do you know for yourself that this is true?

@Inliytened1 Maybe that is the main issue here. This forum is created by one human egoic mind - brilliant mind, to be honest - for others' egoic minds for typical egoic mind activity - under cover of the quest for the ultimate truth - compare itself, judge others, appropriate concepts and ideas about so-called enlightenment or awakening. But I think it's not bad at all. This forum is, by far, the best mirror that reflects our ideological, philosophical, and emotional attachments about how reality should look like, what it should be, and how God should fit into our conceptual set. It also mirrors our most profound existential questions. When we peel off this egoic layer, or at least we are aware of it, what lies underneath has a tremendous cognitive value. When Einstein told Bohr that God did not play dice, Bohr consciously replied to him: do not tell God what to play. Here we can clash our different concepts about our experiences, which can reach the most distant alien realms that is hard for human to imagine. Nobody is less or more enlightened, or I don't consider myself or anybody here to judge this stuff - on what basis? From my experience, I know that surrendering one's ego is not an easy and short process. It keeps fighting back, you all know that. I would say it takes many lifetimes, you disagree with the idea of reincarnation, and here we go - ego is safe, and that is its purpose, isn't it?

I just watched your video about God Realization a while ago. Indeed, I have not had such an awakening, to see how I am creating reality right now, my memory, my psyche etc. whenever I have done 5 meo and it has sent me to infinity, it has been a moment. my human attachment is still strong, although every day less, very quickly it grabs me. but if I have realized many times the infinity and I have become completely infinite. that infinity has stayed with me, it has changed my psyche. I don't know things, like I'm forming my hand and stuff, but I don't see that it's crucial to know that either. I think knowing is from the ego. once you have become infinite, you know that one thing is the same as another thing. It doesn't matter if you are a god, if you have created your parents, if there is only one pov or more, if there is reincarnation....all that is ego, the only thing that matters is being able to detach yourself from the human in order to be infinite. knowing things is attachment. it is ego. what is it for? if it is infinity. Maybe to know those things could help to the total freedom, in that case, welcome

Oh wow. Surprised You're saying that. I've recently realized that reincarnation is "real" and I will be going through lives for infinity. But I was second guessing myself and didn't wanna bring this up here because it's still the dream and yadda yadda yadda. I can't see yet how that could be a dream. And how can reincarnation exists only from a certain POV? Isn't there an absolute way in which God functions? So like: reincarnating infinitely or not?

Yes God is infinite reincarnation, you could say. One way to think of God is as an infinitely tall and bushy tree, where each leaf is one conscious creature. But even that is a limited formulation of God.

Reincarnation is simply attachment to forms, some of which may resemble lives.

Reincarnation exists from a certain POV. But you go beyond that POV at the highest levels of consciousness.

And yet there is no end to death and reincarnation.

I don't know why you all resist this concept of reincarnation so much. Are you afraid of something? Of being incarnated to some real shit to verify your claims? I don't consider your God-realization as non-existing. All I'm saying is that this hallucinated or imagined reality is as accurate as it can be. It's a perfect hallucination (I wouldn't expect anything less from God, by the way :). And what keeps you at this stage of the theatre of the universe is your egoic mind. And it's not so easy to drop all your imagined agendas to get out of this game of duality. Once for good. Not for a few minutes, hours, or days.

Reincarnation is just a word and the word is with god, the word is god.

Yeah, I think that too I don’t really know but, reincarnation even if it’s not sequential in terms of this dream is likely as I am here now

Reincarnation doesn’t exist, but it also doesn’t not exist.

@Tudo Does it make the idea of tomorrow not make sense? If it’s all a dream how can anything makes sense? In some ways couldn’t it make reincarnation make perfect sense? If God is all alone and infinitely powerful after is dies it just imagines a new life thus “reincarnating” as something else. I have to admit and will continue to admit I don’t know what happens after death. But, I suspect it’s pretty great.

If everything is god's dream, time really doesn't really exist since god can dream the past, future, and everything else, and I( as god) I'm everything and everyone. All this makes me believe that reincarnation stuff really doesn't make sense.

Fair enough. But it's important not to confuse the effects with the causes. People may have the effects of a soul without souls actually being real or a fundamental part of reality. The collective unconscious could've easily generated the effect of souls just like in the past people prayed to the "sun god" and it actually worked, and the sun god perhaps even literally manifested in the flesh when enough people believed in him. But that's still different from the laws of physics which are harder to change, and so the sun god wasn't "actually" real, just like reincarnation might not be real and only something we create temporarily. Or souls could be real, and be a fundamental part of the fabric of this limited reality like the laws of physics, but still not real when you zoom out to the full extent of God.

Because it has a physical counterpart, unlike some of the alleged potential effects of reincarnation which have absolutely no physical counterpart. Reincarnation memories can be explained without reincarnation. The effects I was talking about cannot, unless you can offer a suitable alternative explanation. Like I said, physical explanations aren't good enough, and reincarnation seems like the best one anyone has ever brought forward. In my initial post I explained how it's not a bad explanation, and not as crazy as it sounds. Souls/reincarnation make so much sense that it could be argued you should try to disprove them before even needing to prove them.

I have no idea how this is relevant. If someone's good at math, their whole family's brains and DNA can be examined and an explanation for why they're good at math can be found. But if someone's obsessed with flying planes from a young age despite nothing in the environment or DNA to cause this, then it may be worth looking into alternate explanations. To answer your question, no I don't think MBTI/Big5/etc. describes one's math abilities, athletic ability, etc. That's just silly. Not sure if you're just trolling at this point. You honestly think a Blue psychologist is gonna come to an accurate conclusion as to why Sadhguru has such an effect on people with just a glance? Or why a blind man might suddenly feel something when in his presence? Changes nothing. Psychic people can in theory have no problem accessing any bit of information that exists. And it is known that such cases are often put there by the LCS to awaken people to the wider reality. How common is the belief in reincarnation/ghosts/aliens/etc.? Extremely common. Why? Because sightings/reports are just about common enough to spread rumours and ideas, but not so common that it breaks the illusion of reality having rules and making sense to conventional science.