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@AleksM probably, but when it comes to information, it is the same... When we learn physics or chemistry, we learn information and facts... Whatever that alien entity says is probably a bunch of information.. Whether it is true or not is a different thing. But regardless of the truth of that information, it is still some information... That is why I am saying that it is all bit off-topic for people whose main priority is spiritual enlightenment... They have other forums to discuss these things.. :) Anyway, the image is just a joke.. Making sure that the discussion doesn't get serious...

Ok.. then wait! I am hoping that by 2040 or before, we can get an alien being right here on the earth to teach you how to get enlightened.. If it doesn't happen until 2040, there is still hope, so don't worry.. It will be a great way to postpone enlightenment because people can wait for eternity for an alien being to show up and teach them something profound, in such a way that no human being has taught them before...And the probability of that one random alien being to be enlightened being is so unimaginably high!

Yes.. I think we probably need a 'Paranormal' subforum and a 'Mental masturbation' subforum...Even though these two topics have got nothing to do with enlightenment, a lot of people are more attached to these things... But it will be good if 'spiritual enlightenment' subforum is locked for people who post in 'Paranormal' subforum and the 'Mental masturbation' subforum; these two subforums should be locked for people who like to use the 'spiritual enlightenment' subforum. Also, alien life doesn't have to be categorized as 'paranormal' but still, as @blazed said, it is not the purpose of this forum... Here is the bottom-line: Neither the curiosity about paranormal stuff nor any kind of mental masturbation has got anything to do with the spiritual path or spiritual enlightenment. Usually, they are distractions..

@Alien It's normal on the path. You WILL fall off track a lot so just be patient and keep going regardless. The reason why you're so upset is because you're not thinking long term.

@Alien Sounds like the purging process. It's ultimately a good thing, but it can be a complete bitch when you're going through it. Important thing is just to keep coming back to center. This too shall pass and all that.

@Mighty Mouse How do you know if I am being fooled by this? I just found it entertaining when I watched it 2 years ago and felt like posting it here, if I believe if this is true or not couldn't be less relevant in either case. What speaks for his case is that there was a video of him up on turrents that showed him briefing some high ranked military people and also the many videos of people using his alien communication device/app or whatever it was seemed to show results, would be hard to fake that with so many different people in different places, but who knows, I have been looking around for those videos for like half an hour and they didn't seem to end I don't know how many got deleted by now though. There is also much stuff that speaks against him, although if you buy his story it would be logical that there is.

@Alien No.. the lady is not speaking anything absurd.. She is simply saying how science works... First of all, don't confuse between the absolute and relative truth.. Absolute truth is self-evident... It is the basis of your existence.. There is no need of any external evidence for absolute truth... It is who you are.. people are just identified with things in the relative domain that they forget who they are.. But everything you use in the relative world belongs to relative truth. Don't hold any grudge against science and don't think that scientists are ignorant or arrogant. A true scientist is a humble person, more humble than people who would want to believe in anything... People create some stereotyping that doesn't make sense.. Science is neither in competition with spiritual path nor it is against the spiritual path. It is just a careful method works based on verifiable evidence. It is because of science and technology I am writing this message here and you are reading it. There is a lot of misunderstanding about how science works.. Everyone uses the scientific method to some extent unknowingly.. It is similar to how police investigate to find the person who committed a murder.. The first man who learned to use the fire obviously did it by scientific method unknowingly.. He must have noticed some fire while rubbing two stones... He formed a hypothesis that rubbing two stones caused a fire. He experimented with it, again and again, to make sure that the friction between two stones is actually what is causing the fire... This is pretty much the gist of the scientific method. The scientific method used in modern days is just a refined way, which makes sure that there are no errors. Also, don't indulge in the game of discussing who is ignorant, who is unconscious, who is speaking absurd etc... That is taking a backward step, it is a trap. Just because a person is meditating or doing a self-inquiry, he is not superior to anyone else.

@Alien I went on a single day meditation retreat and that problem of "mechanism" was completely gone. this process is not supposed to be done intellectually, but intuitively! that's why in zen they give koans to participants to tire the intellectual mind and use the intuitive mind. long sessions of meditation help immensely with this. you become so intuitive and answers just flow to you.

@Alien I have these sessions too, where these questions are being asked mechanically. It can be really frustrating sometimes. So what's important to do is first get in touch with this feeling of self you have. Where does I reside? What is actually 'you' in your direct experience? Then when you have this feeling- or thought, label, etc-- start inquiring and asking questions. Are you really me? Am I only a mental image? Am I only a sensation? Go on like this. Keep focus on this 'I' feeling and bring yourself back every time you go into monkey-mind. Watch Leo's video on how to get enlightened if you haven't already, it helped me a ton with this issue.

the symptom of loneliness has to do with neglect. i found neglect is one of the most undermined forms of abuse. we all have experienced what it feels like to be in someone's presence yet not feel understood or practically invisible like we're an alien who don't belong on this planet and in society. for someone to accept us and have value for us, they first have to have personal value and accept themselves. we all just reflect back to each other what's going on at the subconscious level, so we can learn and grow by seeing ourselves from different perspectives. we're all alone/lonely to different degrees but together share this personal individual experience, since we're all going through it throughout our lives.

@Alien I think from the perspective of the one who dies it's exactly the same, though after you "die" you cant compare it with physical death because people who died cant tell us how it was.

Here it comes again - huge resistance in my body and mind. I can't sit still for longer than 10 minutes, I feel really tense, which is always the case after a state of clearity and bliss. Most of my life I thought I knew stuff and the last year, upon hearing various spiritual teachers it's beneficial to not know anything , I adopted that attitude. I did exactly what one shouldn't - i pretended I didn't know anything while I thought to myself : yeah I might be wrong about some little things, but really, I have it all figured out. What a joke! Now that I've really started to question everything, I see how horrifying it really is. Is anything really real? Is Trump an alien? Am I living on flat Earth? Is scientology the answer to life's questions? Is wheat evil? Does global warming exist? What is death? What is anything? Do other people exist? I just DON'T KNOW And I can finally accept it

@Alien Your thoughts, emotions and physical appearance is not who you are at the deepest level, at the deepest level you are eternal, timeless and one with everything, and at the same time - nothing. (Leo articulate this better then most I think) This is the most radical thing a human being can be aware of. You and everything that exists (and not exists) are already God and beyond perfection but the illusion of you as a separate entity is very hard to break. With Self inquiry you can eventually break through the illusion. The illusion goes on and is supported by culture, thoughts, your appearance, emotions and everything you consider to be real, that goes in a circle. The Matrix.

@Alien the question already imposed a separation.

@Alien I used a bunch, then listened to Leo on OneNote. Been using it for a couple months, it is superior. Free for IPad too. Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. -Buddha https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/buddha_104025 I feel you on the anger man. I grew up in an angry environment. I smashed someone’s face through the drywall, and their front teeth stuck in a two by four. I later felt so bad about it, I started learning about anger. Not proud of this of course, just sharing. I think a lot of guys, especially around 17-23, just reach their limit of not knowing how to handle things, and either fuck up their life, or find spirituality.

@Alien Hey man if you have a bunch of suppressed anger and your mediating daily then watch out, it's all going to resurface and it might be more overwhelming to deal with than you might realize, you've only been meditating for a month. This is coming from someone who suppressed a bunch of anger throughout their life.

@Alien i’m as clear as the air you think is sustaining your ‘life’.

@Alien there is no such thing as random. ?

@Alien I am fascinated by your choice in avatar name & your question on meditation. Blowin my mind bro. You’re already in the rabbit hole. Meditate to this video next time. Breath in that divine prana and breath out that bullshit. Just let it go right on through you. Don’t keep it by thinking.

@Alien Tis merely the Devil leaving your body

@Alien it sounds like you have just started meditating. These mood swings are great. Keep going, keep observing.

These are my experiences with AL-LAD. Maybe someone will find it interesting to read or can give a feedback. Every opinion is much appreciated. First Ever 75mcg AL-LAD Trip I have taken half a tab of AL-LAD, feels good. I have grasped that ordinary is extraordinary and extraordinary is ordinary. I have partially grasped that God hides behind the Devil's mask. I was walking through the forest. AL-LAD boosts the contemplation process and reconnects you with your body nicely. This trip had hit me with body load the strongest of them all. My heart was aching for whole two days, I didn't experience it again on higher doses. What I can notice now after few more trips is that I like to go on walks after these. It's a recurring theme. Trip Report - AL-LAD, 225mcg I am not sure what to write here. I am so blown off, but not spiritualy, but like a normal human being. The best experience of my life for sure, but I haven't experienced much yet. SET&SETTING: 1.5 blotter AL-LAD (225mcg, probably less), home alone, music for a good start (Infected Mushroom ). Music gave me a structure to hold on and a sense of clarity. What came up first in my mind, and what I hold as a key insight of this trip, is that there are appearances and actual experiences. It's not the advertisement that's important, but the actual thing. Your imaginary vision of sex is nothing like a real thing at all. Same goes for psychedelics, you can't really know what it is until you try it. Everything flashes in your face and makes promises, but not everything delivers. Cut the shit that doesn't work, test new promising shit, optimze, repeat until you are no longer here. I have discovered a lot of femininity inside during this trip. I am not sure if it was, because I lack attention from girls in my everyday experience or because I am constantly repressing my feminine side. Probably both. Anyways, I have received a lot of love from cute pop-art girls. I was repeating to myself over and over again not to get lost in the beauty of it. Mushy, kushy, blushy, pooh pooh. Pure pleasure. I went down. Down to my private hell. I was scared at first, but decided to enter anyways. It was dissapointing. No fire, no devils. Everything was covered with ice. It couldn't be that way. Instantly, I have ignited everything, summoned devils, gave life to this place. Let there be a hell, so there can be a heaven. Everything can have a thousand of faces, just like the Devil, so don't trust appearances, see things for what they really are. See yourself for what you really are. I resonate with the idea of devilry and the Devil, but it's my caricatured, cartoon-like spin on it. Sometimes the bad side turns out to be a good one. I have experienced mild shift in perception and got how it feels. I was laughing at my self looking serious at me. Then I became a serious one and were looking at the laughing one. Back and forth. And simultaneously. Nothing really changes, but everything is different. I am actually amazed by visual part of the trip. It's nothing like what I have expected. It has this 80's vibe to it, very colorful with taste, not like all those psychedelics renders on the web. Smooth gradients, no contours, simple shapes. Sometimes vibrant, sometimes bland. Very clean and geometric, symmetric patterns. I came to conclusion that nothing is really symmetric, the mirror becomes the picture itself. All symmetry is groundless. Writing it all down feels stupid, but I decided to do it anyway. What I can articulate compared to the depth of thoughts I had is ridiculous. And I feel like it wasn't even that deep. Either it doesn't make sense to talk about these things or I need to work on my ability to conceptualize stuff. Trip Report - AL-LAD, 150mcg SET&SETTING: After school (15:30), knowing the next day lessons are at 8:00, one tab of AL-LAD (150mcg, untested) was ingested. Parents magically disappeared to do the shopping until 19:45. Empty stomach, one banana eaten during the trip, zero nausea. Eating fatty food and donout at the end of the trip resulted in feeling "tired" in the stomach. ACTUAL TRIP: Started off with music, then dropped it. Without it a lot of dreamy thoughts have appeared. These were resisted and trying to contemplate the substance of reality was choosen, although it didn't go smooth. The main conclusion is that there is no perciever and no perception, because there's no perciever, because there's no perception. Some emotional baggage realted to male-female relationships was brought up and mainly ignored. Advice was given to actually understand the situation. Mechanism behind the scenes did exactly what it was supposed to do. Actually appreciate experiences given and enjoy the possibility to grow. All the pain is created in the mind and the story of being hurt reinforces the ego. What was given during this trip is an ability to see reality as non-existent during self-inquiry. During this trip there were moments when I was a higher intelligence teaching the ego how it should behave, giving myself insights. It reminds me of a psychological concept of superego, ego and id. It feels like you are this Elder being. It was choosen not to assume existence of any entities, including myself, so there haven't been any creatures met during this experience. SIDE NOTES: Insights from the trip get clearer with every day and somtimes drastically change contradicting the previous thoughts. It's like they are maturing by themselves. Next trip needs better preparation. In every possible way. It would be better if there was more self-inquiry done prior to the experience. Also less social contact and even less external stimuli. There should be no fear of someone interrupting and no fear of losing mind. 150mcg seems somewhat over-the-top for a party setting, extrapolating from this experience, sticking with a little bit less will probably result in cleaner experience. At the same time effects may get killed with reasoning. It needs to be tested, but it's always better to test with lower dosage. I get curious about the correlation between realms of experience and Truth. I assume they are a distraction when it comes to pursuing Enlightement, but it's amazing what's possibly possible. Whole reality feels magical for the first time in my life. Effects on the body were moderate, but they are still there in a mild form three days later. Whole body feels different, but still tensed. "Feeling compact" describes it very accurately. There wasn't any energy release throughout the trip. Trip Report - AL-LAD, 300mcg SET&SETTING: It was Friday night, 20:30. Drunk people on the lower floor. I was alone in my room. Two tabs ingested spontaneously as an impulse. Swallowed without putting them under a tongue - took a little bit longer to hit, but not too long. I have said to dad that I have been drinking and can't drive today. It didn't matter, because dad was so drunk he was getting stuck in the loop and non-stop forgetting about everything. I have prepared banana and a cup of water. ACTUAL TRIP: I have planned to watch Leo's video about strange loops. I have started before ingestion of drug and finished during the trip, as it was getting late. I didn't go as deep into the topic as when I was sober. Psychedlic effects has hit during watching and I started to see blue light around character on the screen. I was watching the show on the phone with headphones. It felt different than when watching it for the first time. The biggest problem with this trip is that I don't remember the juicy parts. I have this feeling like a lot of cool stuff has happened, but I can't recall them, it's all so foggy. I will try to write up what I remember. Listening to Tycho - Awake, I was trying to contemplate. I had to have music on, because people in the house were too noisy. I have to say it's a great album, visuals it has inspired were off the Earth. Music felt physical, like it had 3D structure, a whole new universe hidden in a song, it was a pure beauty. I was thinking about strange loops and then weird thing happened... I don't remember the next hour. It's not like I have passed out or something. I was still listening to music and something like melting has happened. I totally forgot about contemplation. From my playlist's history I know I was listening to Glitch Mob's Drink The Sea album. It wasn't profound or anything, I can't recall any thought or feeling other than immense pleasure. When I have snaped out of it a lot of interesting stuff started to happen. I was conscious enough to turn music off. My sense of self was being ripped in waves. My body was taken away. I was experiencing lives of other beings, like an absolute empathy. I was some girl, some guy, it felt like I really had their bodies, their personalities. It was switching, no-self, some created self, my ego back, some created self, reality at this moment felt really big, but not infinite. Everything was just spacious. There were no walls, just body floating in some kind of energy field, full of fractals. Someone on the lower floor started arguing, I have heard that and got confused. My everyday ego partially crept back in for a moment to disperse the next second. Now I have become people arguing, was living their perspectives and their emotions. I had total understanding of emotions and mechanism rulling their interactions. At the same time, I couldn't care less about them, I was so understanding that I didn't care about what they do or say at all. Eating banana was an ecstasy. I ate only one bite to avoid stomach-ache. I thought my cup of water is empty. With smile on my face, I took it into both of my hands, put them into the air and asked for a miracle to happen, because I didn't want to go and refill it. I tried to take a sip from it and almost drenched myself, because it turns out it wasn't empty. It was funny as fuck moment. I have tried to do the pen exercise. You take a pen and try to see that it doesn't exsist, you can then see that nothing exists. It went different way than when I had tried it before. When I look at this pen now, after the trip, I feel intense presence taking over me. This task is easier on one tab. After that I said fuck it all, I am gonna have fun. I have listened to Scooter and Robbie Williams, because for weird reason they feel like evil twin brothers for me and it makes me laugh. Paradoxically it was a very deep and uplifting experience. I had thought a lot about human nature. Then Modjo - Lady started playing on autoplay. I went deep into this nostalgia trip, emotions were overtaking as I was watching a music video on YouTube. Later I was sitting on my coach, shifting between different states of consciousness. I realized that every undesired or bad thing in my life is there, because I want it on a deeper level, I can't say no to experiencing it from pure curiosity. I am sitting there as this Supervisor, owner of my own reality, it's my favourite element of every trip. Being this wise, totally confident person, that nails bullshit as soon as it appears, very grounded in reality. I thought I would like to feel like this all the time and then it struck me that I can. That psychedelic states of consciousness can be felt 24/7, they are not reserved to any substance, you just need to work your ass off and can attain whatever you desire. I have finished off with a walk on the fresh air. For some weird reason I was thinking about alien abduction, but quickly dropped this notion. Starry night sky is one of the most beautiful thing I have seen in my entire life. Everything I saw had this ancient egypt vibe to it. I was like a pharraoh or an ancient priest walking through the night on the desert. Very hard to put it into words. Mind was empty of thoughts almost all the time. Every street lamp has looked like an entire pizza-like shaped universe. I have returned home calmer than ever. SIDE NOTES: Overall I am not satisfied with this trip. It has showed me that many things are possible to change in my life, that it doesn't have to be the way it is right now. It was a lot of fun and serious at the time, but I feel like I have wasted the substance, It has a lot more potential and can be used in a much more profound way. I have liked the previous 150mcg trip much more, it was concise and harmonic. This one is pure chaos, a monkey-mind on a trip to the amusement park. Even this report is chaotic. I can't imagine how people are taking doses as high as 600mcg of this substance and manage to take something out from it. For me 300mcg is more than enough, I will probably stick to 225mcg dose in my next trips. It seems like a sweet-spot. But I haven't tripped enough to be sure. There are interesting after effects of this trip. For example, when driving a car I have moments of totally dissolving and merging with the car, it's such a cool feeling. I am still me, but everything happens so smoothly and effortlessly, perfect gear shifting, a lot more things get noticed, it last for few minutes. Another after effect is this being Supervisor feeling. I feel like I own reality and I am much more aware of many things, like for example posture or thought patterns. Clearness of mind is connected to this feeling. When mind clears I start to feel more grounded and everything happens effortlessly. It doesn't last long, but I would like to have it 24/7. I went on a walk one day and was just amazed with how magical everything feels. Everything was alive, I was contemplating nature and looking with awe at beauty of it. Funny thing with my contemplation is it sometimes goes into off-words-mode. It happens on another level, I catch myself that these words are no longer useful when contemplating such and such matter and start doing a thing that I can't fully describe, but surely something clicks in the mind during that process. Another after effect is disliking of certain foods, mainly fast-foods. I can eat bananas, apples and nuts all day. But eating salty sticks, it just felt terrible on the next day. I have automatically put some in my mouth without too much thinking and I thought I will spit them out. They have tasted like raw wheat and were almost impossible to chew. Pasta with meat - was terrible. Brussels = awesome. Burger from McDonald's was possible to eat, but not as tasty as always. I was farting and burping all the time. I should watch much better what I put into my mouth, after next trip. This time I was just curious how terrible something can taste. And I have found it. The most terrible, untasty thing in the world. Lech's brand alcohol-free beer. I was on Orgonite's concert the next day after the trip and got thirsty. Considering that water in the club costs the same as a beer, I went for the beer. Usually I like it, but this time it felt terrible. Like I was drinking bleach. Dying would be more pleasant than drinking this beer. I have forced myself to sip enough to satiate thirst and got rid of it. Few days after I also feel mild effects on my body. I became touchy. I like touching stuff. My face feels pleasant, it's delighting to smile. I like touching my hands, holding hands and hugging others. Usually it's not my cup of tea, but now it's extra satisfying. Music also sounds different, much deeper, I haven't heard it like that ever before. === CONCLUSION === I have lost my "apetite" for this substance, I feel like I should focus on improving my self-inquiry habit and then go back to it. I think those drugs should be approached in a more retreat-like conditions, with even cleaner diet, less distraction, alone and prepared. Now it feels like I am wasting material and time. I don't say it doesn't change me, it does, and quite radically to be honest, but I don't want to rely on the substance so much, that it's the only self-improvment habit that I do consistently, because that sounds like developing an addiction. I hope you have had a nice read, even though the text is kind of messy.

Entry 275 | Becoming Immersed Theory: When you first try and do something productive, it feels uncomfortable and unlikely that you will become comfortable. But it only takes a little persistence to push through and become immersed in the activity that you're doing. Applying it: Accept that no matter how uncomfortable or unnatural things may seem at first when you're striving towards change or improvement, you will eventually reach a state of immersion that feels gratifying. Even though I've been playing guitar for over 10 years, there are still some days when I pick up the instrument and it feels kinda alien and uncomfortable to begin with. On the surface level, it feels like you've taken a step backward in terms of improvement. But actually, it only takes that little bit of extra determination to transcend the initial discomforts. It happened for me today. I started playing a piece I've been practicing on and off for a few months and it felt difficult to make it sound good. But with more practice, it quickly returned to my fingertips. This kinda makes me think of self-actualization work. Yesterday and the day before, it felt like I had taken some steps back in terms of overall improvement. My diet, exercise routine, practice routine, and other good habits seemed to fall out of place here and there. But looking back, it seems like this was just psychological. In fact, things right now are pretty awesome. Sure they're not perfect, but there's no need to beat myself up about it. And even though going back to the gym feels like an uncomfortable thing to do, I know that the initial discomfort will go away with the practice. Practice is a really great thing. As a musician, it's the one form of work that never gets old. Every day, I practice something different. Even if it's the same piece day after day, there's always something different to look forward to each time and there's always the possibility to practice in different ways. Same with self-actualization. There are many different ways to approach meditation, exercise, healthy eating, studying and contemplation. It's good to have variety within something specific. But the bottom line is that it's not worth quitting something just because it feels uncomfortable at first. As a beginner, the discomfort is going to last a hell of a lot longer. And as someone who is no stranger to discomfort in my practice, I can confidently say that the endless joy and mind-blowing rewards will follow if you stay on the path long enough no matter what field of mastery you choose. Pick of the day:

@Alien ...true ... That holds its dangers... Heh... And if it was just religion it goes downhill with... Oh. There was something wrong with my initial thought I guess. The only reason to network for us would be teaching, guiding, inspiring, motivating... It would not be external change in the world since the change... Would be us. Within us externalized into our actions... Or non actions... There is a lot of power in NOT doing sometimes after all... It might probably not fit our time but NOT eating was quite effective for a Gandhi for example... ...Or what about that zen master Leo mentioned about the other day? If I could choose to not stand up and defend myself in the moment someone´s about to kill me and just feel like I can leave in this way without blinking an eye? (Sigh...) Difficult! Good night my alien friend