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You must exist in order to say that "you don't exist", so yes, you do exist. So, this is rubbish.. move on.. Then who is understanding this conversation? who is aware of it and understanding with Its own perspective that differs from other people? Who is understanding the thoughts, ideas beliefs and your own subjectivitity in your mind? Who is this centered "thing" inside Which is understanding and analyzing things? If not YOU? If you say "OHHH IT IS CONSCIOUSNESS" (Still you, because you don't experience being a flower or the wind, or "everything", you are always in your body and always experiencing your own subjectivity so that's you. You can't say "the brain", because the brain is not some fucking alien in control of you, you can't separate you from your brain, you are one within your brain, and you are also your brain, neurons etc, and the brain just is, the brain is not some alien which is aware and you aren't... NO, the awareness in your brain is you aware, you are aware of your brain cravings, you are aware of your mood and emotions, which happens UTTERLY AND LONELY to you and through you, because only you can experience being you and your emotions.You can't say "It is life, not you" Because now you're stuck in your body, so that's you, and you have also to define "life". Because the only thing that we can know for sure, is our INDIVIDUAL existence (SELF), all the rest is doubtful. cogito ergo sum. I can be skeptic about the world's existence, but I can't lie to my self and say that I don't exist because I know that's rubbish. so what your absurd statement "there is no you" even means? = bullshit.

I watched something about this on a tv documentary recently. Very interesting. Isn't it a cause of 'alien hand syndrome' where on side of the brain tries to assert itself over the other, maybe by using an arm to hit the body and demand control while the other side of the brain is using verbal reasoning etc

Today has been wierd. I was doing some of my sweeping thinking, and I just let my mind wander. I was thinking about my existence, my past, my future, what's going on now, people, etc. And I had a thought about me, not the normal me, me as a whole, past present and future. It was quite the sobering experience. I found that I have always been doing personal development in a way. And I ran into a bigger thought. Have you ever sat down behind the wheel of your car and seriously thought about just leaving? I'm not going into the thought yet. I've tried to put it in words a hundred times, and I can't get it right.it's about people, and the way I see things. Maybe, I'll be able to articulate it later. I thought alot about work and what I really think I sould be doing. I don't know my life purpose, but I do think I have a pretty good idea of what it might be. And, it seems like everthing I'm stuck in won't let me align with it. I have had the notion to just drop everything and get to where I need to, but that doesn't seem to be the right way to do it. I'm a big dude, so I get stuck with all the heavy lifting. And I realized that I do the heavy lifting with both my body and mind. I take on other peoples bs without asking for anything in return. I get used alot. And, I'm kind of like the family therapist. But, I kind of like it. Not the being used part. Maybe there is a hint in this. I'm trying to better myself, and I have no one to really talk to about it. So, I'm alone. I know it's a lone wolf journey, but damn, my dog even walks away from me when I try to talk to her. Most of the time when I go to post on the forum I just delete it. I read what other people are saying and, honestly I don't whant to sound like a fool (I'm realy good at that), or I come to the strange conclusion that it's pointless. Maybe I should just start throwing stuff out there reactions be damned. (This is me articulating that thought.) It's hard to explain so bear with me. It started with me thinking about how other people seem to have a pretty good understanding of everything. At least on a base level. For instance how they feel, or what they want, etc. Then that thought moved to me. I realy don't know how I feel. There have been times that I seriously considered going to a therapist to see if I was psycopathic. But I know I'm not, and I have emotions they just never seem to be very strong. But then on the flip side I'm very emotional and they are very strong. And, I never really know what I want. It makes me feel lost. So, maybe this is where the depression came in. But it went further. I thought about how when some says somthing like center yourself, be at one with this, or some other eccentric emotion or idea, I have no clue what they are talking about. But, everyone else seems to get it. So, did I miss an understanding your emotions class or something? Anyway, it made me feel like an alien. I don't realate to alot of stuff other people do. Maybe this came from moving around alot when I was young. But, then it shifted again. I moved to a more positive place like how I don't need to relate to these other people. I'm perfectly fine just as I am. I can and will do things that others can't even fathom. This lead to me coming out of the depressed state. And then I had the huge thought. What others do is not what I do. It has never been this way. I have always fought against the norm to be myself. I know how I feel and what I want. It's just harder to explain (Those thoughts before always had an answer). I have been laughed at and ridiculed, bullied and beaten, rejected and fucked over. But, not once have I lost sight of who I am, and let others dictate how I live my life. Why now do I feel I am not normal? Hell, I've never been normal. I chose a different path. I've always been on the Warriors journey. Normal is for pesants. I do hard stuff because it's hard and when they are looking up at me wandering how, I'll tell them. Needless to say I cried, laghed, got angry, and a slew of other emotions. That's just the condenced version. My forhead was on fire and my whole body was pulsating when it ran it's course. The rest of my day has been awsome. Shit just seemed to click. To end this mile long post. My mom made pot roast tonight. That always puts me in awsome mood. And I feel like I've made some big steps in the right direction. I feel like I just slayed a demon, honestly. Maybe something life changing is about to happen. We'll see.

Even if its "who stole your cell phone?" It depends on how valuable the question is.. Haha! But for one I know that I'd have given my life to find out if there are alien life forms on Jupiters moon Europa, and Saturns Enceladus & Titan. So much exciting stuff to grasp and explore. Yet we seem to waste our lives on twerking and selfies.

everyone is ugly... Its just relative concept... think of an alien ?.. If it comes to earth he will find us ugly... like our sticky mouth.. Our sticky eye balls...the way we make our hair... Even the hair can be annoying.... the way we talk... It would sound like annoying noises to them.... so the humans are annoying and ugly... If this be your perspective you would no longer be obsessed with beauty any more... in a different way find a love... Who doesn't like your outer beauty(unreal part) but greatly admires and loves your inner beauty.... in the way you would like to make him/her happy...you would concentrate on your inner beauty ✌

The problem is that personal development is not the 'norm' so people think it's weird. They don't get it, they don't see what it's about, why you do it and how you benefit from it. And it seems to be typical human nature to criticise or somehow invalidate that which is different from 'normality'. So as you develop in to something else, something different from them, they look at you as the weird one. The one who has lost the plot and needs help. They can't see the growth because it is so alien to them. And yes, they are probably scared too. Scared that you are turning in to something that they can't relate to. Scared of losing you. When people 'care' for someone it is rarely for the benefit of that person. It is because that person serves some purpose to the one who is 'caring'. What they care about most is how you meet their own personal needs. So when you stop doing this because you have grown beyond that, they are losing something and will express 'care' that is more about them than it is about you. I think this is an inherent probablem with personal development. Exactly this..

@abrakamowseIts interesting, I like the archetype, the metaphor of it. When it comes to life in the universe? I think if we have a virtual reality construct this complex...aliens? Why not. Drakes Equation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation Thus I consider it in this light... As to the Galactic Federation and like the League of Alien Unions thing? The I channel Crom from the Cosmos thing? I'm a skeptic.

I left all that @Kelley White it was helpful to learn that I am not my thoughts, about our higher self and other concepts that now I understand better. It was like the first steps, but the Alien thing, I have friends that are still on that. I think it's a distraction of enlightenment. I am out of that.

Thank you so much for sharing this. Its actually a very moving and engaging story. I am looking forward to hearing more. So, just curious...where did you "land" on the alien matter?

I am currently cycling around the world and it has been a blast so far! Started in my homecountry Germany, then through Europe, Turkey, Georgia, Armenia, Iran, Sri Lanka and right now in India/Rishikesk listening to Moojis satsang. Especially Iran is just such a lovely country. The landscape is beautiful and the people are the most hospital I've ever meet. I got invited so often by strangers I just knew for less then 5 Minutes (!) to stay for the night. Probably my favorite country so far. India on the other hand was very hard to cycle. On a bike you are in remote areas 95% of your time. And in those areas you are this weird green alien for the locals. And Indians are curious. Whenever I stopped there was a huge crowd gathering. I will continue to Southeast Asia and probably China. But I am open for everything that comes on the way and don't have a particular plan. I love to cycle without a plan and just go where ever my journey leads me. I could post pictures endlessly haha North Korea is also a country I would love to visit. I think nothing comes closer to time traveling.

@Leo Gura Thanks for the clarification. I'm still struggling though. Wouldn't point #1 just be the perception is reality argument that appears frequently in philosophy? I have decided to take the leap of faith and earnestly pursue enlightenment,but as I am in my mental cage, I struggle with this alien thing. At least, I think that's why I am struggling--following what I have learned from you. All I know so far is to learn by questioning and finding answers. I also have been mediating everyday and plan to keep doing so. Is this a good plan?

Firstly, absolute truth is not an experience. Secondly, it is not an understanding and it happens through no mechanism. Thirdly, it is not an answer to any question. Enlightenment is not a knowing, it is a deep un-knowing. The problem you're having is that you're conceiving enlightenment as some kind of additional belief or emotional state, which it is not. It's something totally alien that you have never thought was possible in a million years. It's not gonna be a "thing" that your ego is going to be able to grasp on to in the way you imagine. You have to really think outside the box on this one.

Nobody is in a position to judge who's awakened and who's not, we can never know and it's not anyone's business , there is no true artist in the world will tell you hey.. I am awakened! but I like to mention few modern artists I personally think they are inspiring, with a slight spiritual sense in their works whether they have it, or have it partially, or not at all: Film Makers: Ron Fricke (Baraka, Samsara) Hayao Miyazaki (Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke , Howl's Moving Castle_ Christopher Nolan (Inception, Interstellar, The prestige) David Lynch (Mullholad Drive - Twin Peaks - Blue Velvet) James Cameron (Avatar - Titanic - Terminator - Alien) J.J Abrams (LOST, Fringe, Star Wars Force awakens, New StarTrek) Andrei Tarkovsky (Stalker, Nostalgia, Solaris) Gaspar Noé (Enter The Void) Ki-duk Kim (Spring Summer Fall Winter and Spring, 3 Iron..) Games: Tod Howard (Skyrim, Fallout, Oblivion) Casey Hudson (Mass Effect) Composers: John Williams Ennio Morricone Karl Jenkens Jeremy Soule Hans Zimmer James Horner Thomas Bergersen Nobou Umetsu Vangelis Ari Pulkkinen Fantasy Writers (I'm not a good reader): J.R.R Talking (Lord of The Rings) George R.R Martin (Game of Thrones)

I just had the following insight after a few hours of meditation: Let's say you are having a terrible nightmare. An alien is chasing you and you are desperately trying to get away from it. Then I appear in the middle of the chase and say, "Wait a minute now... This is just a nightmare. It's not real." And you reply back, "But if none of this is real, then you're not real either and your very words are not real! Ha! What hogwash! Look at how you contradict yourself!" And you keep running from the alien as though your life depended on it. This is what rational people do when their rationalism is challenged. And so they stay stuck forever. Just a random musing that I felt increased my understanding of man's condition. The mind is so sneaky!

The awkward moment you do self inquiry and realize you were doing more "right" than you gave yourself credit for..... The two edged sword of living within the meditative state. You can live within the meditative state? Yes. If someone tells you its all bliss? They are full of shit. Run Forest Run! If you've suffered severe trauma(s) you might live in a hyper vigilant state. You might be hyper aware. Awareness might not be your problem. Content focus might be your problem. I suspect by observation for the past few months content focus or lack of focus is more than likely my issue. (Example, as a violent crime victim and a former officer/trained soldier I am hyper aware in public settings to include using proximics. (Body placement, spacial awareness.) I am hyper focused on exit points and walls for safety, who is near me and why. The issue? My focus is built on a belief that public and people = harm; a paradigm reinforced by law enforcement experiences and other direct experiences in my life. Is this always true? No. I have functioned from within a meditative state, but my focus revealed subconscious paradoxes and creative realities both positive and negative which were subsequently manifested in reality as a result of my focus. Thus my observation became once I functioned from a meditative state, if I was focused upon fear, I saw fear in every pattern I observed. I, the observer, created the effect. In turn, if my focus was love, releasing all other content, the pattern I observed was love. I, the observer, created the effect. The second thing which came to me this morning, I am trained to observe and report. Since my youth I have been, due to disassociation, detached; observing, synthesizing and reporting through a creative emotive medium; mostly poetry. This was a skill later honed as an officer and private investigator. It was our job to observe and report and the quality of our observation and reporting impacted the outcome of justice. Its considered arrogant by some to say you are smart. I'm smart. I spend most of my time observing, meditating and sometimes I lose focus and chase the wrong rabbits/content. That can be an emotional roller coaster. When you are smart, lots of things interest you. You are curious. So you chase all content about one topic so you can see every-man's position. Perhaps the reason I can think of at least six impossible things before breakfast is I am willing to listen all day and observe the patterns the universe is sending me and then mediate upon what the focus of the message is? I am happy when I see my kind attributes; I am sad or ashamed when I see my own hypocrisy and that is when I know this is the area I have to focus on content filtering and correct my own internal course. Embrace the lesson take corrective action. Sometimes I forget and I punish myself. I will do this until I become aware, and then I can shift focus back to correction so the pattern is broken. I have expanded both my framework of understanding and my scope of listening beyond and do so every day. (No alien emoticon available) I want to know what makes this apparent plane of reality tick.? How does this reality fit into other realities? That's just how my brain ticks naturally. Its my creative idea of fun. (Again, no alien emoticon available) Thinking about space, and time travel, and stories; researching sciences and philosophy,so many interesting topics so little time. Focus can become challenging when it comes to completion; especially when you are genuinely interested in chasing so many different rabbits. Perhaps all those rabbits end up weaving into a more interesting story? (Again, no alien emoticon available) I believe stories can change the world. They have. Just think of stories that have impacted your life? Stories require vision, research, work, imagining; they are in one sense the ultimate meditative indulgence. That awkward moment you find out you may be wiser than you credit yourself for, you just have to focus your lenses better.

@Leo Gura Does that mean that person wants to be chased by the alien or can't escape the idea of being chased by the alien? It seems to me that the only way out is to deeply consider that there is no alien at all... However, the alien very clearly appears to exist to the rational person and it would be irrational to think otherwise. Therefore there seems to be a need to develop a method of deconstructing reality to know the difference.... Am I on the right track on my train of thought?

@kalter000 You're welcome ! Feel free to ask any other questions you may have I'm really glad because everytime I ask a questions on the RSD forum I can't get a proper answer and people can't relate, and sometimes I feel like I'm an alien with my whole DEPTH and SCIENCE thing ahaha

It's interesting how many blindspots there are in the average mode of consciousness. One of the main insights that I had when I had my experiences was that I was constantly deceiving myself to protect my ego from uncomfortable truths. Even knowing this now in an abstract way and having a clear memory of this insight, I still make the same mistake on an almost hourly basis. The only difference is that I'm a bit more aware of it. I consider it progress, but a very modest amount of progress. I still continue to struggle against my reality even though I realize that it is an illusion. My ego just won't let things go and tries to control the situation to amplify its own existence. So, in this scenario, I am both the person running away from the alien and the person telling myself that it isn't real. When I was a child, I remember having a dream once that me and all my family members were taking a fitness test. My mom woke me up for school and I told her that I could get up yet because 'Dad hadn't taken his P.E. test.' The mind is such a tricky thing.

Hello there, I have been doing pick up for a year now, with some pretty amazing results, but there is always a deeper problem I find myself unable to fix. Growing up I was never part of the quote on quote cool people, and never had my first girlfriend until very late. I can easily start and interaction with very awesome and hot girls, even get solid number, and even sometimes dates, but there is a sometimes a moment where it's fucking up. (Be it the interaction after the number, the date itself or even while in the bedroom I'm unable to "escalate" aka, After some self-inquiry I have deduced that : 1) My mind for some unkwnown reason defines my own value partially by the hotness of women I am able to "get". Also, I feel inferior to all the guys who get those hot girls easily, in a not big deal frame, and I makes me feel seriously inadequate and alien, as I am struggling with this kind of problem while I am confident I am an great human being in different aspects, which of course, lowers my self-esteem. The solution of getting some hot girls doesn't work, because I have slept with girls that were quite hot, but not AS hot, and not AS much. 2) I tend to put women on a pedestal, once I believe they are hot enough so that getting them will allow me to feel cool (aka part of the cool kids, and hence socially adequate), and that sleeping with this particular hot girl may unlock the rest of it, since the mind believes sleeping with one hit girl will make the whole hot girl thing normal. The solutions I have found so far are : - Fullfilment, once I am fullfilled I do not care at all, but I only had that at the first stages of taking action, it kinda went away now, and most likely never coming back, because socializing feels really normal now. - The whole It's not gonna change my life (and women are not gonna make me happy/nothing can make me happy) insight, I have felt it at times, but it's not consistent while I wish the whole situation would just normalize. Does someone have any useful insight about solving this problem ?

Hi everyone. First off I'd just like to say great idea of making this forum Leo, great idea! So the question I have summed up in a sentence is: in the Clare Graves & Spiral Dynamics theory (which I felt was so accurate in the first tier) from the perspective as a yellow, what is the transitional dilemma and what is aqua like? So, I'm pretty scared of over-raking myself, but I feel like I am a yellow - I have done a lot of self seeking for years now, and when watching Leo's Clare Graves & Spiral Dynamics, I could follow the system right up to yellow, and I could see in my life how I went from blue, orange, green, yellow. I do associate myself with yellow quite a lot when hearing about their qualities, but as to what might be next seems alien to me, and what aqua could be for me. I want to aim to change myself for the better (obviously), but is there any advice for yellow except to be open minded (which is working really well lately)? I have read about aqua but I'm not too sure about what I read - even the other colours seemed off in their descriptions. Here is my theory, any thoughts? Yellow is like enlightenment.1 in which you realize your ego, gain a strong and real sense of losing the self, seeing life as the pure-experience it is just in this moment. But, at this stage, as to what reality actually is, is still a bit of a mystery - and studying about quantim physics and science in general doesn't help that much. This seems to be where I am at I would say, and although I am learning new realizations steeply (as compared to before), I cannot tell where this is leading, and I just feel a bit lost as to what I should be changing into with these new realizations. Aqua is like enlightenment.2, as a common example, what people say Buddha would have reached. This would be complete connection with reality (I have heard that is a theme). Also, do you guys think there is anything more than aqua or even yellow? The brain should have some physical limit as to its comprehension, there must be a limit somewhere right This was sort of hard to communicate with language but I hope that is clear and all. Thanks in advance for any relpies guys and girls! PS I didn't put this in the Video Requests section, but if Leo made a video regarding my question I'd be pretty stoked

Whats up fellow Actualizationicans, I love the new forum, and it reminded me in structure a lot of Reddit, and got my gears turning on ideas to make this all as aesthetically appealing as possible, and as mobile friendly as possible. I have a genuine interest in the spiritual enlightenment side of things, and want to give back and contribute to the community as much as possible. With that said, one of the big dangers of making something like this is that the community might attract more people, thus more less involved or serious people. I really do believe this can be overcome, and that eventual growth is inevitable. I have some experience in coding, and have begun to work on this just in the past couple of hours, and want to get the whole community involved. Attached is a zip of the open source Alien Blue app files (with the three images in the main folder changed to Actualized.org images), and I chose that as a good template to work with, due to the similar structure of the current in-browser forum and what I hope the app will resemble. If you're suspicious of a potential nefarious download, the original Alien Blue ZIP is open to the public for download and redistribution, a quick google will take you to it. At the moment Alien Blue has a PRO version, but I plan to have that feature erased in the Actualized app. Good vibes all around, and if you make any progress or have any good ideas, use the tags on this post when uploading any files useful for its development. Cheers! Actualized-master.zip