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@Lucas Kehr sure man. Just don’t let it be too big of a part of your life and part of being passionate about the scientific is always accounting for your own folly or your sources or the technology itself. Alien technology could exist on earth in secret but there no use convincing people on an Internet forum haha. I think that could be a healthy life purpose if you were more into discovery and innovation of new technology and not trying to prove a point. Just trying to help humanity like wilhelm reich. I think wilhelm reich and Tesla were smeared in bad faith because the government didn’t like what they were uncovering, but I have no evidence of shady dealing just seems pretty plausible based on the information. also the thing about Tesla and wilhelm reich is that they did the work and then let it speak for them, where as the reason why Greer isn’t more popular is because people want results and all most of them have is a narrative same crap happened with Russia collusion sometimes people don’t care about what actually exists if you can’t show them in plain writing. Is this unfair? Yea maybe but can you blame them, not really. conscious people will always have to deal with being discredited and called crazy it’s par from the course and I’m starting to realize that. just keep pursuing advancement and you’ll be great no need to worry about who believes you or not or trying to prove a point. and you’re welcome

I have seen no credible evidence that alien technology exits. Perhaps it does, but we are not going to go on a wild goose chase here based on some fringe possibility. If you have pics of alien technology, post 'em. Otherwise this is a waste of time.

You're basing your reality on a sample of primate sensory apparatuses that were limited by evolution to perceive fitness payoffs. Your whole experience of the world is shaped by the game of survival and reproduction. You didn't evolve to see the world "just as it is", but you evolved to see the world in a way that is beneficial for your survival. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_D._Hoffman You're actually not able to perceive things that are not either beneficial or relevant for your survival. You're not perceiving a world; you're perceiving an user interface. If an alien came to earth, it's not a given that he would even be able to see the Eifel Tower. Even so, distinctions made within that user interface are still relative and fictional. "Eifel Tower" is a culturally constructed concept. "You" and "me" is a concept. You need to be able to differentiate between conceptual constructs and raw experience. The moment you start making distinctions, you're now constructing concepts that only put labels on your experience. Raw experience is raw experience.

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spirits used thoughts and mind powers to create suns, planets, moons, and original physical bodies of celestial objects; the first physical bodied life started when spirits entered into and started living inside physical bodies that they created via only their thoughts and mind powers; ET surveillance devices; how far can thoughts travel; how are thoughts created; temporary thought beings and temporary thought forms; daydreaming, and imaginations; thoughts that become real manifestations; automatic body functions; a spirit is inside every physical body; a physical body can't move or do anything or be alive if a spirit does not live inside it; a physical body is a car or truck or automobile or house for spirits that have left the spiritworld to live a physical-bodied planetary life; some of us spirits live in the spiritworld, and some of us spirits chose to leave the spiritworld to live a physical-bodied planetary life; within the spiritworld, spirits can temporarily appear in any form, size, gender, age, color, shape, and appearance of their choice; within the spiritworld, spirits can use their thoughts and mind powers to create anything that they can imagine or think of; spirits that live in the spiritworld and that live inside each physical-bodied residents of planets, moons, and spaceships are thinner than air, and they are also composed of some type of electrical energy; some Earth humans contain so much electrical energy that they cause some or many electronic devices ((( such as televisions, computers, watches, cellphones, city street lights, etcetera ))) to stop working very well or at all, and that is because their individual spirit that lives inside their human physical body is extra strong with/in electrical energy; if a spirit was not living inside each physical-bodied resident of every planet, every moon, and every spaceship, those physical-bodied beings would be dead and unable to move or live, or do anything; a physical body is able to move, or do something, or live, only because a different, separate, individual spirit lives inside each one of them, and death of those physical bodies only occur whenever its spirit permanently leaves it, and each one of those spirits immediately returns to the spiritworld and immediately after its physical body dies, and life, thus, does not end with the death of the physical body; spirits, that live in the spiritworld, can never die, and they can never feel any physical pains, and they never need to eat or drink or consume any type of food in order to live; spirits that live inside physical bodies also never die or feel any physical pains, but only their physical body that they live in can feel and experience physical pains; after a spirit of a dead physical-bodied resident returns to the spiritworld, it can choose to remain, forever, in the spiritworld, or it can later choose to return to physical-bodied planetary life and via ((( 3 different methods ))) physical-bodied birth, or via the walk-in/soul-exchange process, or by using their thoughts and mind powers to manifest/create an adult physical body that they can enter into and live in, and during any amount of time of their choice; some spirits have never lived a physical-bodied planetary life, and some of them will never do that and because that is their choice, but some spirits have lived many different physical-bodied planetary lives via what is called incarnation ((( incarnation is the first time, and reincarnation is the second time, and any times beyond the second time; some spirits have lived hundreds of different physical-bodied lives, but not at the same time; it is impossible for a spirit to live more than one physical-bodied life, and at the same time ))) and reincarnation and also via those other two methods that I mentioned; everyone is his/her/its own god, and everyone is a spirit; spirits choose where they want to be born; spirits choose what type of physical-bodied being that they want to be born as; spirits choose what planet to be born onto; spirits choose their birth mother; spirits choose their birth gender; no spirit has ever been forced to leave the spiritworld to enter physical-bodied planetary life; some spirits also enter physical-bodied life via the walk-in/soul-exchange method, and some spirits enter physical-bodied life by using their thoughts to create an adult physical body, and that enables them to avoid entering physical-bodied life via physical-bodied birth ((( spirits that use their thoughts and mind powers to manifest/create an adult physical body of their choice, and so that they can avoid entering physical-bodied life via physical-bodied birth, are some of the most powerful spirits that exist, and they are thought of as being inter-dimensional beings, and they can choose to live as long as they want to, within those physical-bodied that they created/manifested via only their thoughts and mind powers ))); all of the bigfoot-sasquatch beings that sometimes visit Earth are also advanced inter-dimensional beings that travel back and forth between different dimensions, and that is why they are hard to find and capture, but Earth humans should not try to shoot, kill, and capture them; worrying and a lot of stress can cause some people to have depression, headaches, ulcers, heart attacks, strokes, and cancer; some strong constant thoughts, wishes, desires, and fears of people will eventually become true; birds of a feather flock together; like automatically attracts like; the general purpose of life for all beings of Earth, other planets, moons, spaceships, and the spiritworld is to always do, experience, and learn something new in life so that they will never become bored and stagnant in life; bad things happen to good people or any people whenever they fail to do the following things ((( always listen to, believe in, and obey all of your positive thoughts, feelings, instincts, gut feelings, inner warnings, and intuition, 24 hours a day, and 7 days a week ))); bad things also happen to people whenever they rush and fail to keep their mind on what they are doing, which causes them to have dangerous accidents; always go with your daily, individual, positive flow of life; our life would always be much better if we would always think, say, and do positive things in life; let he or she, that has never sinned, cast the first stone; why worry about the mote that is in someone else's eye when you have a beam in your own eye; if you have the faith of a mustard seed, you could move mountains; the things that I do, ye shall also do, and even greater; you are god; our daily individual fate in life is the result of all of our individual thoughts, wishes, desires, hopes, fears, words, and actions that we have created in the past and present; spirits, that live in the spiritworld, choose to leave the spiritworld, to live a physical-bodied life on a planet, or on a moon, or in a spaceship, so that they can do, experience, and learn some things that they could not do, experience, and learn within the spiritworld, and also as a challenge to find out how well they can survive physical-bodied planetary life, since physical-bodied planetary life is much harder and more of a challenge than the easy spiritworld life, where spirits never get sick, and where they never feel or experience any physical pains, and where they never have any bad weather, and where they never need to work, and where they never need any money, and where everything is free, and where they use their thoughts and mind powers to create whatever they can imagine or think of, and where they never have to eat or drink or consume any type of food, and where they never die, and where they never become tired or sick or disabled, and where they have no body parts, and where they never have to use the bathroom, and where they never digest any foods, and where they never eliminate any body wastes, and where they don't need any clothes or houses or vehicles; once again, spirits that live in the spiritworld, can use their mind powers to create anything that they can imagine or think of; within the spiritworld, spirits are genderless ((( although some of them prefer to think of themselves as being either a male or a female ))) because they have no sexual body parts or any other body parts, but they can temporarily appear as any age, or gender, or color, or shape, or form, or image, or appearance of their choice; they can appear as animals, or insects, or objects, or as angels with wings, or as round orbs of light, or as mists of light, or as humans, or as ET's, or as clouds, or as anything or anyone else that they can imagine or think of; once again, within the spiritworld, spirits can use their mind powers to create anything that they can imagine or think of; if they want to experience being in some rain, they can use their mind powers to create rain, and if they want to live in a house or in a tent, they can use their mind powers to create those things, and if they want to have a garden, they can use their mind powers to create a garden, and if they want to have and drive an automobile, they can use their mind powers to create an automobile and some roads, and if they want to play a guitar or a trumpet, they can use their mind powers to create those musical instruments; and if they want to have a body that have some body parts, they can use their thoughts and mind powers to create those types of bodies; some spirits visit some Earth humans via the sleep-dream-astral-travel-adventures of some Earth humans; whatever spirits create within the spiritworld will last as long as they want those things to exist, or as long as they can use their thoughts and mind powers and concentration to maintain the existence of those things; some spirits of some dead Earth residents ((( but any advanced spirit can do that, and they don't have to just or only be spirits of dead residents of planets; they could be angels or archangels, or other types of powerful advanced spirits; all spirits, that live in the spiritworld have not learned how to do advanced powerful things within the spiritworld, but they can eventually learn how to do advanced powerful things within the spiritworld and after they would study and learn how to do those advanced powerful spiritworld things ))) appear to Earth humans in the form or shape that they know that those Earth humans expect or want them to appear as, such as how they used to look when they died or just before they died; some powerful spirits, such as angels, archangels, and ascended masters, and some other types of advanced powerful spirits, also use their mind powers to help design and to help create suns, planets, moons, and original physical-bodied residents of those celestial objects; once again, some powerful advanced spirits can use their mind thoughts and mind powers to create solid, adult, physical bodies ((( that have real functioning body parts ))) that they can enter into and that they can live in, and as long as they want to, and that enables them to avoid being born as helpless babies that can't do much, but those types of beings would secretly enter physical-bodied planetary life on planets where the residents would be afraid of them, but they could openly and publicly live on planets where the residents are not ignorant and fearful about those types of advanced powerful beings that are called inter-dimensional beings and where they are called by other types of names, such as maybe gods or goddesses; some good spirits of any types, sometimes or often volunteer to help some troubled physical-bodied residents of some planets, moons, and spaceships, and those good spirits are thought of as being spirit-guides, and angels, and guardian angels; every planet has its own, separate, individual Mother Nature, that is composed of millions of good helpful spirits ((( angels; archangels; nature spirits/faires, gnomes, undines, pixies, etcetera, and elementals; and other types of good helpful spirits that care about the welfare of planets ))) that always patrol, protect, and help it, and that also create and control all of its weather and all of its other acts of nature; (((((((((( Hurricanes, tornadoes, cyclones, typhoons, and storms don't move, twist, and rotate by accident. They also travel many miles. Are they composed of some spirits, or are they controlled by some spirits? They are controlled by Gaia/Mother Nature/the many spirits ((( angels; archangels; nature spirits; elementals; etcetera ))) that take care of Earth. Hurricanes, tornadoes, cyclones, typhoons, and storms are the results of some of those spirits trying to remove the negative energy ((( of some Earth residents ))), that has accumulated in certain areas of Earth. Some Earth residents think, say, and do some terrible evil things in certain areas of Earth. )))))))))) mysteries of life; unusual beings, places, things, news, events, and abilities; and much more. (Larry Whitley/Saturday/1-25-2020)

I think the being on the autistic on spectrum is a tough thing to deal with for men, including myself. Simple things like making eye contact even with your own family members in conversation can feel uncomfortable and difficult at times. It's not hopeless. Just sucks to have "high functioning autism" since childhood which impairs your ability to socialise well, leading to social anxiety, leading to more and more avoidance and making the problem worse. The only way out is to take action I suppose. I can't tell the difference between what's in my control or beyond my control with finding eye contact uncomfortable. And so that internal conflict of constantly beating yourself up with not living up to ideals takes a toll and wastes energy. I'm never fallen down an incel rabbit hole, and I don't plan to. I have the precipitating factors untill I learn social skills and building connection/joy from strangers. Problem is that I feel like an alien wearing a human costume, so low self esteem from that, so I avoid. Avoidance is the main theme Imposter syndrome. Dodging any and all responsibilities like the plague. Probably "avoidant personality disorder"

So THIIIIISSSSS is why you want to ruthlessly murder innocent aliens!!!!! Wow, I'm so glad I saw this. I'm sorry for calling you a chimp yesterday, I was thinking about what I said later on after I posted it and while I haven't changed my opinion on the whole alien thing, the other stuff was unneeded and made you even more defensive. We were both being shitty in some ways to relative degrees. God DAMN do you need to do some shamanic breathing to release that trauma and start melting away your materialist and rationalist ideologies! You do you and you do it when and if you're ready because it's sum RADICAL shit, my broah. Baby step it. I struggle greatly with socializing too because I have asperger's syndrome but doing yoga, shamanic breathing, hypnosis e.t.c. has and is continuing to make a difference. Sorry again for calling you a chimp.

Another thing to consider is how it could be that our perceived duality between life vs technology ceases to apply to the beings at question. It could be that their vehicles aren't actually vehicles, but rather extended parts of their bodies and minds, and ultimately consciousness. The UFO could be part of the body of whatever is controlling the UFO. It could be that the surface of the UFO has receptors for all wavelengths of light, so it could be like a spherical eye that communicates information directly to the mind of the alien. Maybe the UFO itself is sensitive to hundreds and hundreds of different aspects of reality, expressed within the alien mind as hundreds of different perceptions. If we were to say that we have a 100 sense perceptions, the UFO could have millions. Even stranger is that the mind of the alien might be so organic and adaptive that it could experience different kinds of information expressed within different dimensions of perception. You know how some people can "see" music? It could be that a single kind of information, like for example different wave-lengths of light, could be expressed within the alien mind as thousands of different perceptions at once, all giving it different kinds of insights into the nature of what it is experiencing. I just want to hammer down the idea that the kind of mind we are talking about here could not even be remotely comparable to what a human mind is. It wouldn't be a brain, determined in it's structure and function. What you perceive to be an ultimate reality, is not an utlimate reality. Everything about you as a human being, about what you deem to be logical, possible, coherent, all of these things are biological limitations. Your perception of Self, your sense that there is a world, a universe, other entities, time and space, all of these might be confines which the mind of the alien is not subjugated by. What you think is self-evident and what is so mundane that you do not even notice it, that might be nothing but a limitation which an advanced organism might have long abandoned. By long I mean that they might have abandoned it millions and millions of years ago. So from a point which is already so foreign to us that we could not even imagine what it would be like, it could be that they have spend millions of years advancing and becoming more and more foreign.

Are you sure that you were abducted by gray aliens and it wasn't just a dream? I've had lots of weird experiences and still can't be 100% that it wasn't just my imagination. And you said that your brother scared you with alien stories prior to this experience, so maybe that's the reason you had that dream.

I have to be rather quick with my description as I’m finding my usual human faculties hard to operate. When I was 8 or so, I was abducted by the gray aliens well known in pop culture. I was filled with immense terror and trauma due to this experience. I repressed the memories of this event and tried to disprove them (whether it be consciously or subconsciously). This past weekend I took two medium doses of ayahuasca. It brought me happiness, joy, and presence. I became much closer to my authentic self. My suicidal depression resulting from bipolar disorder was eradicated. I had the intuitive sense that I should look up a video on how to contact the grays to face my biggest fear. I watched it. I listened to the information given in the video, and I verbally gave the grays permission to communicate with me telepathically (I used to think I couldn’t access telepathy, lol). What then commenced as I held an emerald (heart chakra activating) in my left hand was breathtaking. The whole experience was about two hours long. I could feel my heart chakra more open than ever before. Many sensations were felt in my brain region. Ineffable to be honest. You’d have to communicate with me telepathically to even partially understand (which I do not know how to do. 99.9% of humans are currently telepathically retarded, although we all have the potential of full capability telepathy.) Wow.

I think its more useful to ask why hadn't any alien spaceships been shot down yet? With all the crazy impulsive people that ruled throughout the past century like Hitler and Stalin and Kim Jong . Its weird that their not interested in aliens or at least thats what it seems . Something fishy about it I think

Dude, we are simply not shooting down aliens. Period. Let it flow. The issue is that your whole paradigm is centered around the concept of 'humanity', and the more others try to approach you from outside of this view, the more same-level arguments you throw at them, such as it grants us survival, it's better for the future, it saves us from an indomitable doom. Those are all just parts of a single limited thought framework. Definitely work on trauma release if you intuitively notice this hard-thinking approach is rooted in the past. Use it for something good today. Not to form an alien-shooter masterplan. Much love.

This is a painful false equivalence. There are no lives at stake in the alien scenario, at least not immediately and probably not even into the near future. NUking Japan was a best case scenario in response to a chain of violence going back decades(started by a group of people who began attacking others unprovoked because they thought they knew what was quote unquote best for them!). This is it for me on this thread. You're too pig-headed. The last thing I'll say is that I hope you cultivate some more receptivity and then combine that with all the projecting you're doing. You'll project higher quality projections!

Dude......EVERYTHING I said went completely over your head. Your notion of intelligence is painfully limited. You seem to think that rational/computational/analytical intelligence is quote unquote intelligence period. I'm not sure how you would best transcend that huge limitation but transcend it for the sake of your own enjoyment and fulfillment in life if nothing else. You may have very high IQ but very low EQ/Wisdom, which generally leads people to think INCREDIBLY self biased and arrogant things like "Let's just blow this creature away and dissect it and pick things off it's carcass. You know.....FOR SCIENCE. You're acting emotionally here more than logically and are also probably very emotionally repressed which is actually IMPAIRING, skewing and corrupting your logic. One of the biggest traps rationalist zealots fall into is that they trick themselves into believing they are impartial. I'm still working on transcending that stuff too. I thought that emotions were quote unquote irrational and primitive but they're a necessary aspect of your being. One should not be weaponized against the other. But I'm getting too speculative at this point. An alien race may have a vast army with highly sophisticated tech and no mercy. They may take offense to an unprovoked assault same as a human would and may seek vengeance as many humans do. Your counter argument with the ants is overly theoretical, in practice you would get fearful and angry and automatically defend yourself if you believed that was your best option. Just like if another human put a gun to your head. There would be SOME form of a major response if they found out that a group of their own was killed like that and given where humanity is right now overall, i would submit to you that we would be totally unprepared. And the level of preparedness is relative to the nature of the species we would have pissed off in your hypothetical scenario. There are SO many angles you're blind to here. You're a desperate and greedy chimp who just wants to get his hands on some new shiny things. There's NO actual logic and sophistication in what you're proposing. He is definitely morally underdeveloped but the biggest underdevelopment for this guy is Emotional intelligence. If he did trauma release and other practices that develop you along that line like body scan meditation or practicing self expression, I think the lack of morality wouldn't be at least as much of an issue because he would be more empathetic and able to imagine what it would be like to be an alien just cruising through the galaxy....chillin.........and all of the sudden dying in a flaming wreck.

Oh I liked it, gave him a big alien - machine elf vibe

@Mikael89 People who are alien-like are usually not treated very well (unless they use their 'paranormal abilities'). They don't meet other people's Maslow needs, especially love and belongingness. They are 'low value' in the eyes of others. So there is no reason to stop projecting and to stop abusing them for the average person. Mostly they just want to be left alone.

I’ve met several people with paranormal abilities that self identify as being alien-like. One of the reasons they keep their abilities secret is to avoid getting abused by others.

@Mikael89 I think because aliens are so alien that we might not be able to anticipate their reactions. Like I just said, it depends on the relationship between that shot down alien spacecraft and the alien race @Leo Gura

As soon as we meet an alien we should hog tie him and beat out of him all his secrets. Then we mount his head as a trophy in the Oval Office.

@Mikael89 Okay, if it absolutely has to come down to shooting an alien spacecraft, which country would you peg likely to shoot it down? And who get's the first dib on the wreckage? I also would not be surprised if we can't reverse engineer such technology, because we had a real world occurrence of a USA drone crash landing in a middle eastern region and they picked it up, filmed themselves attempting to learn and reverse engineer the drone parts, but it failed.

@Mikael89 LOL! It's problematic depending on which side or position you see an alien spacecraft getting shot down, but ultimately Truth is impartial to whatever happens, even if we end up shooting an alien spacecraft, because in most cases keep in mind that misunderstandings can mostly occur especially the greater the differences. Depends on how they interpret our action against the spacecraft. Who knows, they might interpret it as an act of war, but also they might be neutral and patient, understanding that we seem primitive to them, or they might congratulate us because we happened to wipe out a group of alien terrorists for them, and from this violent act, we inadvertently get on their good planets to peace treaty a trade with!

@Leo Gura That just makes the aliens look weak, like they need to kidnap and mind rape a person for research and intel. What insecurities do such things have to stoop down to that level. A highly conscious and advanced alien species and technology might even be non-physical and manipulate energy and matter that's very hard for human minds to grasp. If they're so selfless, why so crude in intel gathering?

You are wrong. There are not some idiots, this is the very foundation of what it means to be a human. As a species, our desire to be with God, our desire for Love, is the best indicator of how primitive, undeveloped and childlike we are. To expect such a species to be given the ability to become gods among mortals is utterly absurd. The prerequisite for that kind of technology might be a mind that is conscious of the Love of God in every second of it's being, from it's creation to it's dissolution. A being that is in a 5-MeO-DMT state from the very conception of it's mind, a being that could operate from such a place with ease, not one that would completely break down crying in utter terror and joy. Any such species would look at us and see microorganism fighting desperately for survival, utterly ignorant of their place in this reality and where they are moving towards. I mean we are so primitive that we physically can barely take the Love of God. Our biology is so badly designed to embrace Love that we literally cannot operate if it gets dialed up enough. A species that has a million year old ego embedded in it's mind. Such a species cannot be given the ability to become gods among mortals. You have to grasp this, the mind of an ant might be closer to the mind of a human than the human mind is to that of an advanced alien. We might be so far removed, we might be so primitive, that we cannot even conceive of the kind of selflessness these beings can embrace completely effortless, because they have been design and made to do so, outside of the constraints of survival. We are our limitations, that is what makes us humans. Our evolutionary legacy is what makes us what we are.

The technology described seems to be so advanced, to assume that we can shoot such a thing down is to me quite unrealistic. From the speculation we are hearing, this thing might not even be travelling at all, instead it is pushing through space itself, sucking itself through it so to speak. It's not actually moving, in other words if you were to be inside that thing and it was moving with 10x speed of light, you wouldn't feel a thing. It would be as if you'd stand on a non-moving object. When it is moving through the air, it is not actually interacting with the air, which is why it doesn't seem to cause a sonic boom. It doesn't actually push any molecules while it is travelling, because it is not actually travelling. I don't understand the hypothetical physics of this, but I am not sure if it couldn't just fly through a wall. That's how advanced that technology might be. Also to think that giving us this kind of technology would be in any shape or form a good idea is very naive aswell. It would be like giving a bazooka to a chimp. Humans can barely keep up with the technology they themselves are creating, just think about if nuclear weapons had been invented a decade earlier, in another part of the world, like for example Nazi Germany. You don't try to teach a 4 year old to drive a car, the mind of the 4 year old is not ready. The same is true for us as mankind. We might not even be biologically capable of responsibly using that kind of technology. It might be that we will first need to actually change the structure of our brains and minds for us to deal with it on a larger scale. Don't forget, at some point technology might become so advanced that a single dysfunctional mind could annihilate all life on a planet. A single "school shooter" type could destroy all life on earth, if technology was advanced enough. This kind of dysfunctionality cannot even be given a chance to exist before a certain technological point has been reached. It cannot even be 1 out of a trillion people. It has to be a mind completely alien to ours, a mind that has no capacity for primitive desires like jealousy, hatred, fear and so forth. The fact that there are people who would ever shoot down an alien aircraft to gain an imaginary benefit is all the reason why the aliens would deem us far too immature to do so. They might deem us so unadvanced that giving us any kind of advanced technology would be like giving ants nuclear weapons. And equally, any technology that we might be given could be equally incomprehensible as a nuclear reactor is to an ant. A human mind might not even be capable of comprehend any type of understanding of how and what that technology is, or how it has been created. That's how advanced they could be. Don't forget, if a species reaches a certain level of development it might be capable of intelligently "evolving" a structure that gives rise to a mind that would not be created in trillions and trillions of years of natural evolution. The wisdom of nature and all it's organism would seem like a child building something out of legos.

You fail to realize that shooting down a craft like that completely unprovoked is an act of war. If the military ever did that, they would likely be provoking a war that we are VERY much likely to lose.....HORRIBLY. I'm talking the most laughably pathetic and completely justified curbstomp ever. As in an entire armada of warships quantum leaping into earth's airspace so advanced that the average person would have a psychotic break simply from looking at it. It may even be an alliance of multiple different alien species. Careful with this word alien because to ANY other species WE are the aliens. If you really care about the possibility of interacting with other other intelligent and/or sentient life, I would suggest cultivating WAY more humility than you currently embody.

I get it. You are the big daddy who advances society. 'Just how it's gotta be, man. For our sake. For the greater good.' Just allow me to overwhelm you with a flair of feminine love to balance it out. The moment our lens becomes centered around humanity and our thinking revolves and gets stuck on our side versus their side, we have fallen into a gaping hole. WE are aliens! If they are as intelligent as an advanced intergalactic civilization ought to be, I find it hard to believe they would retaliate, though. Retaliation is such an ape level. A conscious being does not stomp an ant when it bites them because they have placed a hand inside a nest. You perfectly understand it, there is not an impulse to retaliate, you love the ant for what it is. Having said that, this sort of gives an ant the 'privilege' to bite a conscious being and still be loved. The question I ask, what would be our cause to shoot down a flying saucer and acquire alien technology? To cruise the stars? To win a war? To end poverty, world hunger, would it be a noble cause? - Because we do not require more technology for that, we do not lack the technical capacity; we lack empathy and consciousness for that.