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Breakingthewall replied to Frenk's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Frenk must be neutral because is void, nothingness, but I experienced with 5 meo and I remember that at the end, I had a strong bad feeling, like, only me exist and the nothingness, and there is no time, no movement, I'm stuck here alone in the eternity of the no time. But maybe it was the ego facing the void. Or maybe god realising that is the only being...anyway, was really bad feeling , but despite that, is a real thing experienced the void and the eternity. I did 5 meo again and I remember that just after I thought. Yes, true, I'm the only being in the eternity, but I'm love I love my self and it's no loneliness. But I'm not sure because after I sleep and next day I had zero remember of that, I only remember that I thought that after. Probably was part real part suggestion. My conclusion is that realized the void first time is traumatic , maybe more than the void, the eternal no time, but you could accept it after, meditating, integration, etc, and maybe is a step necessary before other realizations -
Galyna replied to Galyna's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Void and nothingness are all just definitions and pointers. When you get it, you will know, nothing can’t be defined for it is nothing. You’ll have to re-read my thread again. Yes, when you fathom nothingness this question POV will resolve. Just re-read my first post in this thread again. -
billiesimon replied to Galyna's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I have experienced divine Love and noticed the dreamy texture of reality, but never experienced the Void. I'm going to work on this relentlessly Do you mean that the experience of nothingness holds the answer to the dreamed POVs? What's the answer to this dillemma in your experience? -
Galyna replied to Galyna's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Agree, COVID doesn’t exist for me. also I believe that it was a part of my path, otherwise I wouldn’t be on forum that much, therefore I will never get into Nothingness. -
SgtPepper replied to Galyna's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I have realized, not intellectually, nothingness. But I also realized that nothingness is everything. So to be one, is still to be ego, while knowing the truth. like Yin and yang. Oneness, has been revealed to me in this way. What say you to this? In other words, what happens after realization of nothingness in your view from relative/illusionary perspective? edit: for clarity -
Lyubov replied to Focus Shift's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
nothing has free will. emphasis on nothing. the ego appears to have the free will itself but it is only a lens of perception and a limiting array of possible choices. the nothingness is what has the freedom. -
nitramadas replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Uhhhh, have you not seen Leo's videos? That should be enough. This is "post-rational" stuff, if you're not Yellow, which you're not, it will just seem like some distant, abstract philosophy. Knowledge at this point is vague; based on many vague connections; and becomes increasingly more reliant on intuition. I have to say, you didn't understand my ~2k word essay, and what I'm talking about here touches on things that all need essays of their own . You can get the majority of the prerequisite knowledge from Leo's videos. But even then, you're not Yellow. That's kind of a big deal. It's like being a different species. I promise I mean no offence. Though it might be difficult for you to see that. Luckily, I've saved probably around a million words in essays I've written this year. Here's one that seems relevant. This is a summary I wrote to my introduction to virtual reality. It takes you step by step using logical derivations to show how there is no reason to assume matter exists. Designed to even be compatible with Blue. Note: Originally formatted for YouTube comments. Haven't proofread this. idk what this summary left out.. But it should provide the backbone for the abstract concepts you're struggling with. Had I known you're unfamiliar with Actualized, I would've started at a lower level. With this, you should be able to understand most of the common concepts talked about in Actualized, which should, hopefully, enable you to understand what I've been saying. Maybe this model alone will suffice.. Enjoy! 1. *Your entire reality is just your mind tell you what's "there".* If an object is small, the brain uses memory and other visual data to make you believe it's 'far away'. You decide to move forward, and you "feel" what you've "learned" to be your leg sensations, again just data. Seeing visual information update as you move just cements the illusion. If this is too abstract, just remember what video games are _currently_ : A. Updating visuals that form the illusion of space through visual consistencies. Is something far away in a video game actually far away? No, just made to look smaller based on your "distance" from it. There aren't that many ways to create "space", so of course video games are gonna copy RL, RL is like this for a reason, it works B. Controller vibrations. C. Audio D. Spatial audio. E. Pathfinding. What do you think's gonna happen when neuralink comes out? 2. *Things mostly seem consistent, so you treat reality as physical / actually being there.* You always get the data you expect, you've always believed you're in the physical, and since nothing changes, you cling to those old, ungrounded childhood beliefs. 3. *Life happens in the mind & you can't fully trust the brain's interpretation of anything* (as seen with how easily it can be skewed with psychedellics or simply your mental state) 4. *Since life happens ENTIRELY in the mind, even if there was a physical matter reality, noone's _ever_ been there & you will never experience it* . In life, you can only experience what your brain allows. (To experience a "physical reality" you'd have to stop processing all the sense inputs coming to your brain. That would, technically, be the "physical", but it wouldn't be a "physical matter reality", you wouldn't find life there. It would be a void. That's what happens when you "turn off the lights, all of them". Life does not exist physically, never has, never will. ) 5. *The brain is a creation of consciousness to define limitation* Imagine if humans started out with an average of 1000IQ, think they wouldn't have nuked themselved long ago? It's not the intellect we're developing here. This is the evolution of consciousness—but that's a topic for another time. 6. *Physical reality is not only unnecessary, but also theoretically inaccessible and, therefore, could not exist in any capacity* Reality is non-physical. Physicality can only ever be an illusion. Hopefully you understand by now that "Feeling and seeing" is not enough reason to consider reality physical. 7. *What did reality come from?* If you say _something_ , if you say _the big bang_ , you then have to explain where those came from, and so on.. *What did reality come from?* *What is reality made of?* Should be obvious by now. The answer is: Nothing. No matter what theories anyone has, it _has_ to always start and end with nothing. Everything else would require structures and explanations requiring more explanations. Nothingness is not to be confused with non-existence, however. Nothing is the only "thing" than can be "anything". -
Monday 14/09/2020 00:20 Wonder if I'm going crazy or the point of any of it. Wondering whether I'm imagining and creating spiritual meanings and experiences where there are none. And whether there's just this nothingness. I've encountered this feeling before and each time it feels alien and dangerous. Whether I was muslim, atheist, or now "spiritual", the experience and feeling encountered is the exact same. Feeling lost, confused, sad and scared of meaninglessness and nothing.
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Galyna replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nah...theoretical knowledge prepared a good foundation for us to not be scary. We are ready for this and it was expected. But at the same time, feels a bit like denial or resilience. this stage shall pass, moving toward God like a rolling snow ball or avalanche. The funny is that I got used to being aware but had gaps in my day when I was loosing the observer and was falling asleep. now i will have gaps when I am the observer and nothingness. Lol. It makes sense to me. No mind , no thoughts, just pure being. -
Galyna replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Exactly, when is just a raw being there is no one there to register the experience. When registering happens, “You”become the observer again. Still can’t fathom nothingness and everything as being a paradox and is all One! -
zeroISinfinity replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Mikael89 There is good friend of mine who told something along this lines. All thoughts are fear of nothingness. It's your job to discover what you really are and nothingness that you are. Who am I? is not really conceptually answered it is rather felt. You are actual Love. -
James123 replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thats called awakening by learning, which is just ego. Because ego learns. But when you are awaken, direct realization with nothingness you will get what i mean. Awakening is not learning it is being, which kills the self (your learning part, because you exist as learning). At least you can lie yourself but dont lie or mislead others that you have awakening being one is like falling love peace! -
James123 replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
When you experience nothingness, self breaks down into million pieces. You dont have an awakening. You just learned stuff. Awakening is not learning, it is being. And when you are being, self destroy into million pieces. Forget about arguing people, you wont be able to write from crying. Additionally, you like the people who goes into your way just dont lie to yourself, you never get the awakening. I just tell the truth. Don’t mislead with people with first lying to yourself and lying to others. Because you are me too. Peace! -
James123 replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yea man, unfortunately From absolute perspective or consciousness no free will. You are just a fragment on nothingness. Whatever you do it doesn’t change anything, because you are just a thought. But dont look at from this perspective, yet you still think that you have a body now. Just try to get awaken first, don’t confuse yourself for now. Because for you there is a free will. -
James123 replied to confused's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Realizing that your birth, entire duality is just a thought in nothingness, which is you and absolute (you). Imagine big bang, every particle created by nothing. Therefore nothing is everything, therefore everything is identical, because it is nothing. Additionally, big bang happened because of thoughts, learning and knowing. If you dont know nothing never happens. If you never learn, you never born. -
raphaelbaumann replied to Travelion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Inliytened1 Alright alright thanks^^. Mahasamadhi however is a different matter then? As if Nothingness stopped imagined infinity there would literally be Nothing left. (other than formlessness) In contrast to Mahasamadhi however, we would still be left if anyone goes into mahasamadhi, so it would be false to say that Infinity ends at the point of mahasamadhi. Thanks for being so patient -
Inliytened1 replied to Travelion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
yes until Nothingness gets bored again -
raphaelbaumann replied to Travelion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why it's not making any sense to me is that I would not say that there is My mind or your mind but just Nothingness aka Self which is imagening all things. (Which is as you said our shared reality) And if everything truly would end there wouldn't be anything left at all other than this Nothingess which stopped imagening infinty/everything, or not? -
raphaelbaumann replied to Travelion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
By Infinity I mean all the infinite number of forms that Nothingness is imagening. (Formed side of Nothingess = Infinity , in my understanding) What I was asking was whether you think that infinite imagination will end when you merge into Nothingness/Mahasamadhi. As I see what many people is confusing here on the forum, me aswell, is how there can be anything left after the first person going into mahasamadhi, as Leo says "Everything ends" . So I don't get why there are any forms left when truly everything would end ? Hope that makes sense -
justfortoday replied to Dazgwny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Listen brother, I got your answer right here. @Dazgwny - please try to grasp this as best you can. The perceptions you “have” are not perceptions. The shapes, colors, sounds, and sensations that compose your life are not happening in your brain but free-floating in nothingness. That is consciousness. Your field of consciousness is the raw, unfiltered fabric of the universe. Everyone you “see” around you IS you, from that POV. Makes sense? Yes. It’s all “you” because you’re the entire field of consciousness but THEIR experience is just as real as yours. In the “absolute” sense YES you are alone in the universe. But SO IS EVERYONE ELSE. LOL You get this? It is actually HILARIOUS. Everyone IS real, what you are seeing is pure, fucking magic. It is one consciousness split into a house of mirrors. Each mirror reflecting the other. ❤️ In other words, LIVE. Live, experience duality, enjoy it. Life is incredible. A complete miracle. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Galyna I'm reading it. A bit long gonna take some time. But I get the general idea. Moreover I don't believe in any spirtuial concepts at this point.. Call it awareness nothingness etc .. All of that ultimately should be transcended. It's an endless process of transcending delusion after delusion untill... Idk -
allislove replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Someone here okay, welcome to "Nothingness" honeymoon bro -
This is also why you cannot die because you die every moment all you are is the identification with now. you never weren’t an idea an idea doesn’t exist and cannot die you are the idea of the past story which doesn’t exist right now . You pull this imaginary story out of eternal nothingness. Also since every “moment is static thing” the only way you can experience this is because you are outside of time . Nothing has no time coordinate because it’s nothing
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Dodo replied to Kalki Avatar's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@VeganAwake My advice is you shrink your Ego to a point so small that it becomes nothingness , then you will merge with reality now which is always pure awareness and knowing, everything. Only ego is blocking that shine and limits it. -
zeroISinfinity replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What is nothigness. Why "Reality" and not Reality. Reality=Dream=God=Nothingness =Love No dualities my sons.