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Someone has been acting a bit crazy off late. Whatever. Who cares. It's their forum right? Who am I to speak? I'll go on with my business. Someone is going off the edge. First alien mouse, then planet earth, and now ban hammer. Lmao. Let's see where this goes. There is so much inconsistency. Not to mention that half of the forum was made moderator. Oops

Higher dimensions Some of these dimensions or dreams you shift to will be higher in dimension hence why you have access to hidden knowledge. These dimensions have different laws and logic. In the highest dimensions space and time no longer exists and you can speak one on one with anyone at anytime as long as you have the material. I’ve spoken to Mooji and Ram Dass and other spiritual masters one on one. Although sometimes higher dimensions can appear as lower dimensions. Like the door slams and negative energy. Can be scary, like mothman. In fact mothman = higher dimension signs and entities. It’s relatively easy to remain safe if you can dreamshift, all you have to do is meditate/concentrate/practice mindfulness and you’ll float right up to the higher dimensions. It’s very easy to make stupid mistakes though as a newb. For example, I brought the alien beings closer to our world by leaning in, by interacting with them openly. I did this prematurely where a lower dimension was predominant. I didn’t fully realise it was a lower dimension. All dimensions are present at once. Lower and higher. But there can be varying percentages at any one time. To bring a dimension closer to ‘earth’ you have to be willing to look crazy. You have to interact with the beings openly. Break the veil.

Early mystics, Young souls I think of these individuals as early mystics, young souls. I compare them to an early carry or ADC in an MMO - carries are weak early game, strong late game. It overwhelms your system and you end up running around. I say I didn’t act crazy but I damaged my feet from running from, homeless, no functionality, meditating with my hands, barefoot, losing and breaking everything. I would sit in the Japanese gardens as instructed by the spirits and Meditate but I couldn’t help but follow that white rabbit and get into all sorts of trouble - the spirits would compare me to an overly excited puppy in a new environment. I kept receiving door slam warnings that they were going to leave if I didn’t stop. Anyways, so yeah, there are definitely young mystics out there. Dream shifts and signs Mystic signs can be quite odd depending on the kind of dimensions that are being dealt with. You’ll find there is a logic and there are laws in that unique universe that may not apply to ours. It’s like moving around in different universes that have their own own logic and laws no less valid than our own like dreams but that logic can still be useful to our universe. It can be frightening being grounded in mystic ability (which I am not) because you are in other universes with alien beings that can be threatening. Your alien logic and understanding is helpful but at what cost? You lose a part of your humanity, and safety moving rapidly through different dreams. Reality is more fluid for those with schizophrenia. You can call it different universes or dreams. It really is like that. Moving through different dreams with their own logic and laws. Usefulness of the alien understanding and logic: seeing future events, energetics, hidden knowledge, disposition, influencing collective Following the white rabbit - rabbit holes - ‘mental plane’ - fantasy - getting lost in frivialous things in dream shifts

I think of these individuals as early mystics, young souls. I compare them to an early carry or ADC in an MMO - carries are weak early game, strong late game. It overwhelms your system and you end up running around. I say I didn’t act crazy but I damaged my feet from running around, homeless, no functionality, meditating with my hands, barefoot, losing and breaking everything. I would sit in the Japanese gardens as instructed by the spirits and Meditate but I couldn’t help but follow that white rabbit and get into all sorts of trouble - the spirits would compare me to an overly excited puppy in a new environment. I kept receiving door slam warnings that they were going to leave if I didn’t stop. Anyways, so yeah, there are definitely young mystics out there. Mystic signs can be quite odd depending on the kind of dimensions that are being dealt with. You’ll find there is a logic and there are laws in that unique universe that may not apply to ours. It’s like moving around in different universes that have their own own logic and laws no less valid than our own like dreams but that logic can still be useful to our universe. It can be frightening being grounded in mystic ability (which I am not) because you are in other universes with alien beings that can be threatening. Your alien logic and understanding is helpful but at what cost? You lose a part of your humanity, and safety moving rapidly through different dreams. Reality is more fluid for those with schizophrenia. You can call it different universes or dreams. It really is like that. Moving through different dreams with their own logic and laws. The darkness was acute around my second mystical experience. At one point it was booming from the sky. It reminded me of world war 2 and I believe it was related, hence my expressing the idea of a holocaust and mentioning Hitler. It was due to too much narcissism on the planet and not enough Breath (Love). World shifts and higher being assistance probably go hand in hand with vast negative energy (as Covid is a manifestation of) and I couldn’t stabilise in one dream maybe. Just a thought. Sorry for prolonging this conversation, I enjoy speaking to you. Definitely spiritual compatibility is tops for friendship, same for my partner.

From another perspective , you wouldnt care much about the most disquesting shit. Stop this nonsense with double standards. If you were an alien or another form of consciousness, these things would be completely normal to look at for you Edit: Seeing the most horrific/disquesting shit also builds your consciousness level and gives you more understanding about reality. I have been addicted to gore for years long time ago, so trust me i know.

@Leo Gura said Leo while high on a mixture of drugs trying to achieve a never ending orgasm of "alien" consciousness.

This video is interesting in that it reveals the sheer mediocrity of Jordan Peterson’s political perspective. It is another case of an internet intellectual who thinks they are innovating when they are really just reinventing the wheel: his “conservative manifesto” is literally just another rehashing of Boomer conservatism and libertarianism, with a sprinkling of the “Judeo-Christian West” to please Shapiro. What is particularly surprising is that Peterson almost entirely jettisons the very traditions that he elsewhere claims to admire. He repeatedly talks in this manifesto about the values embodied in the “Eternal Western Canon” and yet proceeds to espouse a form of “conservatism” which would be largely alien to anyone prior to the Classical Liberal thinkers of the post-Renaissance secular age. The very concept of penning a manifesto reeks of enlightenment rationalism, which was itself a deliberate inversion of traditional Western values. Conservatism is about conserving the essential principles that have been forged in the fire of long experience, not sitting in your armchair and penning a vain and self-serving manifesto. He also fails to address the undeniable fact that “the West” which he celebrates was discriminative and exclusionary for most of its existence, in contradiction to the universalist nature of his own ideas. The greatest flaw in this manifesto is that he defines what it means to be a conservative entirely in opposition to the advances of the progressive left. Perhaps this is the problem with even adopting the terms “conservative” or “reactionary” to describe oneself. This is a bad idea even from a merely tactical perspective because it means you have handed your autonomy over to the enemy. It is also particularly inappropriate, given that he starts by saying that he is speaking here at the “metaphysical” level: by definition, a metaphysical statement must transcend the petty squabbles of the present day. And, rather than just explicitly framing himself against the left, his criticisms are all veiled in a dense and cryptic form of allegory - making it even less likely that any of the people he is criticising will even understand what he is saying! Who is this manifesto intended for? Even when his criticisms are valid - for example, regarding the infantilising and smothering nature of progressive societies - his delivery is so jilted and grumpy that the whole thing falls flat. What is even more peculiar is that his “conservative” manifesto is barely even conservative: his solution to every problem is just “sovereign individuals freely associating in the free marketplace of friendship”! Is that what Aquinas, Plato, Seneca or even Christ would have conceived of as the “Eternal Western Canon”? Where are the calls to belonging to something greater than yourself and making human life into a vehicle for spiritual realisation? All I hear from Jordan is: “Blessed are the sovereign individuals, for theirs is the kingdom of material ambition”! When he does eventually get to briefly discussing “community”, he does so entirely in utilitarian terms. He is just clinging desperately to the corpse of the Classical Liberal anti-tradition whilst somehow remaining blind to all of its flaws, which become more and more obvious with every passing day. There is also something peculiarly Masonic about the whole thing, particularly in the way that he appropriates a spiritual and metaphysical perspective for the purpose of selfish and materialistic ends. He seems to be very torn between genuine compassion for the people who look up to him and preaching gibberish so as to sell his soul to Daily Wire. In the same way, perhaps, that he is torn between the rich traditions of the past, particularly Christianity in his case, and a petty and pointless “reactionary” stance on present events. He should have it called: A (Truly Awful) Conservative Manifesto… In the end, this manifesto serves to prove that Dr. Peterson - whatever interesting things he might have to say regarding mythology, the relationship between science and religion, and so on - has by now been entirely consumed by his role as controlled opposition. His presence in online public discourse is amplified precisely because his arguments against the left are so weak, and in reality he is just fuel for the very fire that he seeks to quench.

(this was on Lsd) my awakening experience as a snake. So a few weeks ago I experienced myself as a beautiful tantalizing seductive snake. This snake had bright green and golden colors. It had golden wings. What I experienced was seductive dazzling mesmerizing beauty. I was dancing and spreading joy. I was basking in the glory of being a snake, dancing and crawling and twirling, twisting to the rhythm of beautiful sensual music. The playfulness and beauty of this snake was magical. It took me to another world. I cannot describe its beauty in words. It was the most enchanting thing ever. Gosh I'm so nervous right now. I don't know what to call this but this imaginary thing was the most beautiful experience of my life. .................................................... That's my trip report. The snake experience. Happened while on lsd. I don't know about the dose. My friend offered me liquid lsd in a vial. The effects kicked 4 hours later. It stayed for about 7 hours during which I felt like I was a snake dancing in ecstacy.. Me and my friend both did lsd First time. This happened many weeks ago. I didn't talk about it, honestly I was kinda embarrassed at the time. I thought people would mock me if I said I was a snake. But when Leo discussed the alien mouse thing, it kinda gave me some courage to talk about my experience. 7 hours ago, Carl-Richard said: Never heard about it taking 4 hrs to kick in. I'm not sure. It was a minimal dose. I probably might not have experienced the first kick-in. Then I went into a deeper state. I might have felt weird initially and not experienced much. But after 4 hours the experience was intense. I felt pleasant throughout the trip. I can't take a heavy dose and this was my first time. I will definitely do it again.. I loved it. .... My friend however experienced the effects in the first 45 mins. And I wasn't feeling it. I felt it much later than him.

infinity creates the appearance that time is passing, that there is a chain of events. it also creates the appearance that there is multiplicity. It's all infinite engineering tricks. the appearance that something is finite and concrete is a trick. the point is that from our finite appearance it is impossible to see how infinity works, it is too alien. for infinity it is normal to be infinite, that is the reality, but from our point of view castrated with donkey blinders to see only what needs to be seen, it is very difficult to look to the sides

@KH2 I think in the distent future it's a non issue exactly what we eat as a whole, because 1,000 of years later we won't be classical humans, we will be transhuman, part cyborg, part alien, part whatever. We either will continue eating waht we consider today as classic foods, or our diet will mostly be lab grown meats, veggies, fruits, and so on, or in an alien facility. I also look forward to us developing empathy and moral superior to vegans, such that we feel enpathy to the plants to not kill them. We might even eat digital objects. But it's a long journey, and humans are omnivores, and no amount of moral preach, nor hither spiritual insight can deceive what my tongue says: meat tastes GOOD.

Reminds me of Leo's latest posts about alien consciousness

Same, this takes years of practice - of determining what is genuine spiritual phenomenon and what is a product of the mind. One thing that helps me determine the two is the location of the insight - if it comes in through my chest - my heart, and there is a lot of information into the underlying nature of something that brings me a sense of resolution, I take it as truth. If it comes in through the mind, through thought and reflection, then I take it as an idea or if, I go too far with it, it will become a delusion. And that's okay, too. It's good for people to challenge these kinds of things because they are not seen by most. I mean, anyone can make any claim, and you do have to question what people say. A healthy thing to do for sure. A good way of determining who is authentic and who isn't is a few different ways - one, the authentic person will continue with their work regardless of what other people say, two, the authentic person will come to some sort of resolution about something that should indicate a higher force is working through them. You will see things like allegory, metaphor, and generally the energy that they are working with should be malleable - there should be a give and take with communication, just like with people. It won't be a fixed state. A way to tell if someone is fake/mentally ill is if they are reaching out to people to give them accolades or praise for their claims. They want to be seen with the image of the shaman/mystic - a common thing in spiritual circles, or if mentally ill, they will have insight that brings them nowhere, they end up coming apart at the seams and can't put themselves together again. Although, at times this can also be someone in the throws of shamanic sickness, or there could be a psychic attack on the person - a good way to tell if they are genuine is if they are integrating concepts of interconnectedness, love, basically coming to some sort of resolution within themselves. Mental illness/shamanism can be very tricky to separate because we have many people in the modern world who would be shamans, but there is no training to get them there and their gifts are lumped as mental illness, however, many people with mental illness also claim this title, and some have a mixture of both. You kind of just have to use your intuition. Another way to tell if someone is not "real" - is they affix an image onto the divine. The divine has no image that you can really use, all images are placeholders. When someone attaches to a divine being a list of set traits, or a picture or anything like this, and are not able to work with the underlying energy, then they are communicating with their own thought processes and nothing more. Which can also be a spiritual tool, if they know they are doing this - but many get the two confused, this happens a lot when "fake shamans" try to teach other people how to do journeys. They are basically just teaching them active imagination and other techniques, but are not connecting to anything genuine. Generally, over time, with real spirit communication - the spirit or deity will offer more and more detail into who they are - and the person should be able to come up with dozens of different ways of explaining what they are dealing with. It won't look like a tumblr grocery list. It will look more like a personal cosmology come to life, that has a general forward moving trajectory. True, and it is up to the person who encounters such people to be able to judge the true ones from the false ones. I don't mind being lumped into the same category to be honest. If someone doesn't believe in this stuff, or they think I am crazy - which sometimes I can be - that's okay. It isn't completely up to me to change their mind. From the things that I have seen, it is probably a safer position for a person to discredit me, than to see what I see. Yes, often and many. They come in through a few different ways. The first way was through a pathway that was seared into my mind that I continue to follow with each trance state that I go into. I was opened to them in late 2016 by God's energy coming through, after a prolonged period of sickness and facing death. So, I use a few different techniques to bring them to me - I face my death head on, while I inquire into my psychology to remove any blocks that prevent me from getting into this death state - it is called "hollow bone", and I go into a trance that feels very pleasant and I can maintain it for about 4-7 hours - with music. Sometimes a certain song, or certain psychological "unraveling" will bring to me something from the other side. Another way, is that I can actively See manifestation and energy in the outer environment, and when I do - I get a "ping" in my heart area that gives me a lot of information within a fraction of a second. It is almost like Seeing and feeling an electromagnetic wave of consciousness being manifested in the outer environment. These are portals, or sometimes the entity itself pushing itself through to create as much physicality as it can in the real world. When identifying these beings - they don't come in right away and say "I am this *insert name here*" - it comes in dribs and drabs of information into the nature of the being. Because these intelligences require that you understand certain aspects of how the other side works, they prep you with information pertaining to how that ecosystem is set up - once your mind is able to put together what you are dealing with, they will give you more information into what they are. It's a process of opening your mind and psychology to something that is almost alien in nature, and so you need to change the wiring of your system to allow them to come through. This training period takes years, sometimes decades. It doesn't feel like I am dealing with like, a certain God from a certain religion, it feels more like many religions have used various methods of explaining these things in their own way, but that these beings come with many names. What it feels like is an intelligent Will, combined with the feedback loops that contain evolutionary processes, followed by a library that holds records comingled with a sense of timelessness, that you step outside of time itself - you are no longer moving on the same track anymore, and they are there - just an onion peel away from it all. They don't let every human know about them, or come to understand their nature, the reason for this is some humans simply can't due to incompatibility, or they don't have the time in their life - but could have been a candidate, or these beings don't see them as someone who will do right by the information given. When they give you this information, it doesn't just unlock your discovery into them, but also into how the universe is structured, how to manifest certain things, how things will play out for mankind, and if a person gets too far up and takes that for granted, this can cause a lot of problems. To know these things is like to have a superpowered siddhi, that lets you play with the wires underneath it all. And of course, reality can't just let anyone do this. That isn't safe. This is why, even for people who don't believe in these things - when they obtain Godly status, they must do it through purification and learning to love and to be selfless.

Did the alien mouse help with the choice?

Define alien, please.

Are you an alien?

Almost always positive, but they can also be disturbing at the same time because they are alien and otherworldly. I've had a few nightmare ones. I had one awakening in my sleep in which I became a cow in an high tech alien slaughterhouse where I was skinned and sliced alive in the most horrific ways you can imagine. Not necessarily in the way a human thinks he has will. The will topic is very tricky as I explained in my What Is Will video. Human ideas about will are pretty bad.

@Leo Gura How did you see the entity kangeroo mouse internally/externally? I unfortunately don't have the time to understand everthing in detail, even though I read most of the thread.. I had a similar experience on NN-DMT although the visual quality was very weak, I basically saw a tiny gnome of sorts that gave me access showing me I am all-powerful in that sense by giving me control over another body so to speak. This was all internal after a couple of hits. It definitely was not as intense. Is that similar to hyper alien intelligence? The experience was very strong energy of DMT was cursing through my head and I had similar to Martin Ball sort of these electric/digital synch waves in my head, no idea how to describe it. I heared strange sounds and I had to stop the experience, because of lack of control. Although paradoxically the entity showed me "authority" over it, giving me power and control. Sort of similar to beign a ruler. Is the beign you meet archetypal I got interseted into Carl Jung a bit? Do you think it exists in our universe itself? That you could possibly meet it in some odd scenaroy lol?

You should also take into account that the things I say on this forum are not my formal teachings. I say a lot of things here flippantly and casually, as I develop them in my own mind. This forum is a testing ground for my ideas, which then get formalized and released as videos, courses, and books. When I release my course or book, that's where everything will be laid out perfectly. I use feedback and reactions from this forum to refine how I formulate and articulate my teachings. Especially with new and radical topics such as this alien stuff. My work has an unusually iterative and sloppy style. I do a lot of rapid refinement of things I post until eventually it turns rock solid. It doesn't start out rock solid because these topics are so tricky and nuanced and I prefer to hash it out in public rather than work on it for years alone in the dark. So expect a lot of evolution in how I frame things and in my positions. I have no attachment to my own positions. This not an ideology we are building.

What was the emotional level like? Could you elaborate some more here? Did you experience some "alien" emotions?

I of course acknowledge that spiritual teachings have their relative use. But in order to reach the levels of consciousness that I now reach, I had to throw it all away. Perhaps I go a bit overboard with this as I have to over-correct. In my own mind had to reject the notion that anyone at all is Awake but me. This may sound arrogant from your POV, but it was absolutely necessary for me to do this to break free of the illusion of other. You have no idea what ancient civilizations were conscious of. It's all speculation. And also simply irrelevant to your consciousness now. And the levels of consciousness I reached are unaffected by any ancient civilization. I am literally talking about how to become the most conscious thing in existence. Nothing can be more conscious than you. Because there will only be you. There won't exist any civilization when you are this conscious. All of mankind will just be a figment of your mind. Open. I didn't come into contact with it. I recognized that I was an alien. I came pretty close.

@Leo Gura when you came into contact with this alien consciousness was it with your eyes open or closed?

@Leo Gura you could try to make a visual representation of this alien hyper intelligence with A.I

I’ve had dreams that are so alien and psychedelic where language can’t even describe what it was

More dangerous than IV. I came close to killing myself. Becoming an alien isn't as easy as you think. You think this is some cute joke, but it ain't.

I can't be counted among these 4chan posters you reference. In that, I do legitimate supernatural feats, and am aware of other human entities under the same umbrella of practice. Furthermore, in the future, I will endeavor not to accost Leo or anyone else seeking evidence of any powers or abilities they claim to have. And to represent the truthful aspects of your worldview @RMQualtrough to the best of my ability, and do my best to protect you from any material you may find to be offensive. It's true that many come here seeking advice in supernatural matters, this is not an entirely foolish action. But it should be done with the understanding that Leo's values don't include such practical utilitarianism in everyday life. Or to be more specific, Leo values truth above all else, or at least in the past he has. Now I'm starting to think he values this alien mouse above all else. Perhaps some or even many supernatural claims constitute inaccurate and untruthful information. But on what basis do you reason that all of these accounts, and that would include some I myself have posted on this forum, are inaccurate?