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Vibroverse replied to Vibroverse's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
And it even is possible for me to become a totally different person, or an alien even, who has always been an alien, with the memories and biology and history etc of that alien. Or I can even become a bird, as, again, a being that has always been a bird, in a sense like the butterfly story of Chuang Tzu. This Holy Shit is frickin limitless, but It is limiting itself to not lose its mind, to stay sane, mmmm. To evolve with sanity, peacefully and in a satisfying, in a sense, way, perhaps, hmm, or something like that. -
The story that you were spit by mother two days ago and the story that you were given birth to by your mother, say, 35 years ago are both real stories. The story that you were an alien two minutes ago and the story that you were still the human that you were two minutes ago are both real stories. The only difference, and it is an important difference for some reason, maybe because Consciousness at Large has some sort of an intentionality in Its modality of being in this mode of experience that we are perceiving, is that one of those stories are relevant and more meaningful and more belivable by us, or by Consciousness, whatever you call it, for some reason. It seems to be so, at least on one regard, because you the beingness in this modality of being has some sort of a momentum, or like a directionality of being, to perceive and experience yourself in the mode that you do, and, in a sense, It knows Itself in the mode that you be.
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It's so weird being in here, writing stuff he will never read. Because I'm so used to this forum meaning him. Discussions with him and thoughts about him and me checking if he was online regularly if we didn't speak, worrying when his content seemed too much up in the clouds, worrying when he didn't write anything at all. I looked up to him so much, I was so amazed by his mind. But I was also so angry at him for spending so much time being in his own head thinking about God instead of just living and being and breathing with me. There's a memory I had forgotten, but it has kept returning after he has died. I had moved to the other city then, to study, but we talked on the phone, of course, It wasn't during one of the break periods. But I remember I was still surprised that he called me. That it was me he called. He was in shock, he had fallen off his bike, you know he used to drive so fast and recklessly it was insane, with his long-limbed alien-body no one could control - him the least! When I remember it, I can see him as if I am standing next to him looking at his wounds in the bathroom mirror, but it was just a phone call. He was laughing almost, from the shock, he said he probably should go to the hospital. he described his wounded face to me. There's something about that memory, I think it comes up because it felt so normal and earthly and I felt so... Like if by calling me, he said to me - yes, you are the one I call when I'm hurt and don't know what to do. And I felt able to comfort him. And included. I asked if I should come to his city and go with him to the hospital. He of course said no, but I should not have listened. Before he died I don't think I really understood regret. I thought I could go through life without ever regretting anything - because everything happens for a reason right. And the universe has a plan. I do still believe that. I can never not believe that, and he wouldn't have wanted me to. He would laugh at me if I lost faith, I can almost hear him. Rolling his eyes at me - like God in all is the most obvious thing. But fuck, what I wouldn't give to be able to turn back time and take that fucking two-hour train ride to sit with him in that fucking hospital, holding his hand. Pressing my head against his chest. Kissing his shoulder and neck and fingers. And now I'm crying and it's probably better to stop writing now because I really think I should do this in small steps. I think it could be good for me though, to write about it in here. I feel people in here know him in a way that is comforting to me. They know his mind and his words and his empathy and all of his stupid trips and contemplations.
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Breakingthewall replied to KoryKat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
in our apparent reality, everything has an origin, a development and an end. we can't think of anything that doesn't follow those rules. but reality is absolute and works according to other laws. it is something alien to us, incomprehensible. but that is the reality. there is no origin, there is no time, there is no limit. it is something normal if you are absolute. the same as it is normal to have a beginning and an end if you are relative. only that the relative is apparent. really, it is absolute. that is, the relative is an illusion. there really is no beginning or end of anything -
Date: 27.07.21 - 28.07.21 Prep: Meditation + Intentions for 30 min Ingestion Time: 20:30 Amount: 800µg LSD Duration total: 20h Onset: 2h - 21:00-23:00 Peak: 5h - 23:00 - 04:00 Offset: 6h - 04:00 - 10:00 Afterglow: 7h - 10:00 - 17:00 Note: This is an approximation I also smoked smoke weed (pure) during the trip super silver haze that is very strong and potentiated the trip a lot at the peak. I did not even smoke a lot. Because it was to intense, I stopped but I wanted to deepen the trip. Prep: Meditated for 30 minutes with a mindfulness techniques with a don't know open monitoring focus stance. Created a couple of intentions in my journal what the trip should be about and what I want to explore and learn. Onset: 2h: First I took 3 tabs as I was unsure if I should really go for the 800. I thought beforehand what I wanted to do and I just listend to some music and played video games. While I chew on the tabs to not sink into boredom and create positive feelings of joy/pleasure beforehand. Basically activating my inner child. So I played Leauge of Legends for 30 minutes while chewing on the tab ARAM mode. I don't recall if we won or lost I just really wanted to listen to music and play video games as I enjoyed this as a teen/kid. After that I listend to music and started to notice the trip is coming on stronger. I thought about my true intentions and not the come up experience and noticed there is a deep desire in me to meditate and transcend. It was almost to strong I intuited I should not meditate to not further potentiate the trip and cause a kriya experience. Sort of a more balanced approach instead of recklessly exploring an already intense experience. I started to watch videos from various teachers and to subtely meditate. Like I do when walking/eating/driving/ and introduce a lowkey softcore form of background meditation and started to just watch for mental activity and activity in general while watching videos from Leo. For example about god realization as well as from Shinzen Young expansion and contraction flow. I notice the trip comes on stronger and I see the opportuntity to go for the 4th tab. My visual phenomena was still relatively normal in contrast to my experiences with 1P-LSD and ETH-LAD slight drifters and if I had to see stuff drifting I'd really had to focus. Somehow after this I got sucked into more conscious and personally passionate indepdent channels about science/biology/philosohpy/politics like Veritasium, Lex Fridman, Hubermanlab I was so curious to explore their perspectives and to see their level of consciouness. I keept internally checking in if there was any signs of ego death, dissolving, bangha, siddih type experiences, internal geometric patterns etc. I noticed this now I did not once close my eyes during the trip and meditate. I know why I will get to it later. In short it was fear of to much depth and a kriya experience. Basically fear of the causal state. After checking-in (going inside) I keept my softcore meditation going while exploring consciouness in digital space let's say. Peak: 5h: At 23:00 I notice I am peaking while watching some video I watched so many people and explored their perspectives like Sam Harris and how they seem to meditate. I had like the most synchronistic craziest algorithmic YouTube dopamine blackbox deep drift into some blackhat gamified algorithm. It basically forced me to consistently watch the next video. All topics from biology and society how ido movement is practied how it feels like how he experiences doing these ido movements I also watched everything in 2x this seemed very magical to me. As they sort of skipped all unconscious conversations as it was really about awarness, meditation and consciouness mixed with science etc like this. I watched all videos in full length at 2x while meditating I do this also while exercising although that is to much with audiobooks sometimes, when not doing cardio. So basically I am "perma" meditating. When I am conscious of it in a passive stance and not active. Afer this I got a train load of insights about what is happening in the world on the planet just on an information spectrum it felt like an omniscient download, altough I notice I have to not delude myself and thought I mean as long as it's true very true to this experience right now thoughts don't matter. I kept basically slicing mental chatter with mindfulness laser focusing it to death. While watchting the videos. After this I really wanted to enjoy the pleasure side as sort of my inner desire monkey was jumping for excitement and stimulation. Aka my nervous system... back to that later. 23:30 I stopped watching the videos and went to play elden ring as I wanted to explore some cool visual phenomena and the game just looks beautiful on a 240hz monitor with a RTX 3060 with 12gb VRAM. I started the game and I am not very far into it maybe 20-30h and just looked at the landscape as I was mentally so fascinated with the occult and church and religion going through many places in my head I walked through while travelling. I just wanted to look at how death is depicted in general in all cultures and I thought Elden Ring is sort of great when it comes to how western civilization imagens hell/limbo/ or the everbearing battle between good and evil etc. I really was just fascinated by design/code/art and I could not really play the game I got sucked into the beauty of omfg how did they even model this creature like what was the thought behind it? I just explored the area full in fear as I really get like scared by everything I hate horror stuff this is already for me horror or more a jump scare game not horror. I stopped after this because everything started to morph and I absolutely peaked. I got sucked into my chair almost feeling like okay, this is to much. I am definitely now an intermediate tripper, I stopped, went back to the videos and meditated exploring visual phenomena my subconscious goal. As well as exploring consciouness and god realization. The trip was very long so my mind justified it. At one point I got stuck watching a beautiful girl talk about science/cosmology I just stopped and looked at her face as I was unsure if it was morping and I stopped the video and saw her face morph I was like awe-struck for 10-15 minutes in blown into depth. It was a video about science and cosmology. Every video was about life/consciouness and I was so impressed by the work of art of the creator of the videos. I felt a lot of connection towards the amazement of creation/creativity/engineering and just beauty and wonder. I decided to not go deeper and so I did not meditate maybe 5 minutes as the trip was already so intense. It's difficult to describe it in words. Every video I watched had so many information based synchronistic insights. I was just in awe of the constant synthesis nothingless like an ever-cascading wonderland of sheer beautfy of informational depth coming from the infinite mind. I thought about deeper complex questions of god and I was just awe-struck at my own stupidity for not asking these deep questions even more relative ones. Like gods omnipotence, what are considered omnipotent factors? Infinite time? Infinite space? Infinite power? Infinite Consciouness? Infinite Magic? Infinite Creation? How can god even be stopped? What is a limit? What is a contstraint? What is logic? What is a self-reference? Why do I reach back towards myself? Why do I see myself reaching back to my self? I thought about doing UM turn back practice, yet it was all in all to intense and I wanted to explore and not dive in hells deep into a very strong trip. As well as thinking constantly about from and non-form. I was internally deeply relaxed my sense of self was very strongly attenuated. It was more consciouness and I merged more and more in outer space. It was similar to a unification process that happens with hear out technique out techniques from Shinzen and I felt more pan-psychic love equal love for every object that exists in the universe. I was just awe-struck by everything and tried to understand how consciouss the people in the videos are and their thought processes/insights etc. As I also watched Leo/Shinzen/Ralston videos to get more of a taste of non-dual and casual states. I had a lot a lot of insights into cessation and causal state phenomena: I am cracking open some books to describe what I want through. Not in perfection but according to integral theory. As I went into the cessation casual state insights seeing it even in outer phenomenon. I was basically eaten by the clarity of the re-incarnated nature of love. Leo loved me. Shinzen Loved me. In that sense the me the every sense of self that people have and it was like a tear drop of a soul was dropped into every being and it was also my soul in that sense. That would describe the timelessness of the subtle experience... I started to really love the infinite quality of space, infinity quality of potential and imagination. I started to notice this is transcended and an ever deeper state of cessation drops in yet I saw it sort of in outer phenomena as everything was merging and morping and I saw infinite space and depth sort of outside of myself, but not inside myself. It is not easy to describe. I loved pain. I started to love the feeling of pain and it's cessational qualities. My sense of self was ever deeper attenuated I really had to focus to get to the last bits and pulls of it and if I wanted to do that I'd had to go into a deep meditation. Many saints seemed to focus on this path also of subtle self and I felt such a strong conviction of my own saint hood even when I notice my ego still. I was in awe of this clarity of love, spaciouness I could love you in that state if you'd be Hitler I would love you to death as my soul craves this. My theoretical mind went into this ever bearing fractal mode if infinity reaching itself down upwards like my own hand reaching towards my heart telling me and others feel more of this love and bring it to others give them the positive love that they need. All the conversations I watched reminded me about the beauty of being human and travelling. I was so convinced that my LP is the right choice and that I am the ultimate creator. The idea of potency and all the instant informational synchronities that reach back to book to book from book to book to podcast/video etc to memory of memory of memory of memory. Whatever. The evearbearing nature of information at Yellow was so obvious. It's fault it's win-win greed ego good hearted nature. I was just amazed by this double saint experience. I would say I love life and nature more ever deeper than I could imagine. I noticed so much but I need a different space. I would go through some banghda and I really need this people don't understand animal nature and trauma. I kept thinking about how do I explain this to my psychologist, she basically is a robot at TIER 1 with TIER 2 head any conscious phyiscal object that has a sense of consciouness has more depth and I had this sense the whole time. Like what if what if an alien life form lands/robot etc. and we are tested based on consciouness. As well as how it feels to be equal in consciouness with an object given in 3d space time. Oh and I noticed why I love 3's in the enneagram and why effort is such an important topic nowadays imo. I really felt the magic of being a child again had a lot of positive resolving trauma experiences crying that my grandpa died sitting in a wheelchair when I was 6-7 never getting to know the person. He communicating with me trying his best to be loving in a sense. All the informational sort of for MBTI fans. SI transformational nature for NI driven INFJ it was hell. Hell loving itself and back. Like imagine an SI person torturing me with factual/registered information/ list after list after list. I noticed my perosnal ego craves this transformation. It was the hell it was seeking to transform and I was so thankful that my memory is of emotional and not factual nature. I cried at siddih stuff. I can't believe it I can't believe i trust my perception and it's accurate and I keep doubting consciously. Doubt/cessation doub cessation. Full stop. Relax. Gone. I was just deeply rested in the perceptual truth regardless if it was morphing twisting turning. Everything was truth. Falsehood was truth. Pain was truth etc. After this I watched some Leo video about Don't know and Love and I noticed sort of our subtle personal connection over the years and had like siddih type pheonomena where I am unsure how far I keep deluding myself as I keep playing god. I started to love Leo more and more and saw his good hearted generous nature that seems so misunderstood. It really reminded me of my friend and at one point I just came to the conclusion we are on and the same. Why do i even generate the notion of hate in my head. Just because of collective opinions and backlash and "personal" "grudges" I had. I cried at this infantile human nature and was just thankful that the love connection sort of exists. This also goes for Shinzen and the everbearign nature of good will and forgivness I was just thankful there is no true captial H Hate. Oh I was so thankful for the notion of good in everyone, how we can hold in my own words to consistent ultimate positive regard for each other and each others values and see their god hod / subtle soul in that sense. I kept thinking about questions how I can integrate this with my psychologist as she seems so useless in comparrision to the control I had over this trip and the clarity. I thought I had to bring this back to practice she can't avoid it and I am looking for away to explain as she is super open minded and she has meditative experiences in a tradition where I can explain this theory to her. Even if she will laugh and feel stupid because I have to go over her head to show that I was over her head.... and then translate it into her nature. To give rise to potential. This all happend during the peak if I had to summarize: I loved my double saint nature in myself and the other person Clarity of love, spaciouness, seeing it in space morphing and forming and contrasting colors Expansive self Attenuated self Infinite space, spaciouness, expansivness Everbearing notion of infinity and it's "multiplicative" nature similar to indras net Gods ominpotent nature of me The awesomeness of asking philosophical question and how the observer gives back answers Crazy visual phenomena/ audible hearing my own name Consistent predictions of the mind that are accurate based on information given sort of NI synthesis on super super supe crack this was beyond hyper and I had an omniscient experiences that gave me a taste how schizopherenic experiences happen. The point is just never bellieving anything even if it seems true and to get on with the experience. This is certainly not mainstream. There will not be much validation. This "makiyo" type pheonmena is unspoken gold... for many. Many teachers don't talk about this I am happy Shinzen did varjana and saw deities etc. Insects crawling on him etc. As DMT is soon coming. etc. I had a lot of beautiful subtle inner visions I was in joy and awe of my mind I noticed state is everything there is nothing but state and I loved it structure is state. State is all there is as theory is also a construct that is state... Crazy visual phenomena like seeing myself appear on my screen / my face for a brief time Love of a saint loving all beings equally deeply from a place of no-self Abundance Ultimate positive regard Seeing my own saint hood Subtle addicitons To intense of an experience to medtiate Love of death and seeing it's perennial nature More love for the relative self. Panpsychic love Offset: I keept watching videos and started to lay down in my bed as I noticed the peak is ending and everything is still morphing and bubling I felt a lot of abundance and how important it is to be confident in life and have a strong presence like a lion hunting a gazell. I noticed how contemporary culture demonizes men after talking also to trans people etc. I thought to myself it's very bad and incorrect partially and also very much justified a lot of SJW are correct, they are just to aggressive in their approach. I became very aware of how important autonomey is and how authority is outsourced because of a lack of responsibility. I went through my head how art and culture always displays men white beared men in museums, exhibitions etc. I kept thinkin about my second name which is fking ancient and basically has the meaning of Saturn or is named after the planet of Saturn what that means in roman mythology. How men abuse their power and I kept thinking about healthy masculinity presence abundance just radiating pure strength and joy. How important that is no matter how fragile you are obvious the more you embody the physical nature energy of this feeling. Exercise and meditation I find creates a lot of these abundant masculine transcended ego self experience and I was sort of in awe of how healthy masculinity feels it's positive ever giving nature. It's like a hand reaching out towards you grabbing you making you feel warm. I keept also thinking about the good will qualties of a mother as they seemed very similar. Sort of the love of a saint hood mother not ever letting go of her child infusing it with pure love and good will of morality sort of. Just the notion that morality even exists and that you should love it no matter what even when you do something wrong I will forgive you. This perpetuated itself and I dritfted of slowly becoming sleepy although I could not sleep at all till 18:00 the next day. I smoked some weed and this potentiate the trip a lot way to much by 2-4h approx. I'll leave it at this. I might add and edit later. As this is already a lot to read and I don't know if someone can give me even feedback. Afterglow: Same as offset with just becoming more sleepier nothing very profound just the lasting existence of the profoundness that preceeded continued on. Terminology: Gross: body-mind simply said physiological self with the person self. Subtle: Expansiveness in consciouness, soul self arises more disidentification with gross body, open, luminous, loving clarity, aware of re-incarnated nature of that creates a sense of timelessness(I was digital and physically), higher and wider deep spaciouness Subtle Is not: Awarness of past lifetimes and awarness of specific events more a soul awakening to openess, spaciouness and expansivness without identification with gross releam Causal: Space Time becoming archetypal the matrix basically let's caital M Matrix. I dunno how else to relate more normaly for stage Green, I leave it at this because I had basically casual additction of subtle state I could not let go of the subtle and I did not want to because of fear. It was a lot, yet I am pretty clear I explored subtle space. Mainly love and infinite space. I also thought I really wanted to give Leo feedback as he takes so much time and effort to create these videos I forgot like 90% of my critcism in that sense good feedback. Hope the post helps <3. Side notes/Remarks: I was also amazed how chill Elon seemed to be around Lex. I really thought it was cool to see because I received some insider info and sometimes I panic about politics, it's all a game in the end... hopefully it ends well. I also see every creator watches his videos in 2x. Sort of the repetitive subconscious nature and how well integrate a person seemd was very obvious on 2x.
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is the issue that you've created A spiritual ego that's so strong you can't interact with normal people anymore? sounds like you're an alien just came to earth and are trying to figure out what this ego thing is all about. @NoSelfSelf
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ZenAlex replied to Danioover9000's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I haven't done this at all. I said that is the possibility that I consider most likely based on the evidence, but I never said it was definitely the truth. And you're not even really responding to the points I'm raising now. Just because I do not accept blindly that you're talking to a spirit doesn't make me close minded. I just see no more reason to believe it is a spirit than an alien, demon, angel or something that's completely an utterly beyond anyone to create an apt label. You've taken massive offence to what i'm saying, you sound unstable and easy to upset, and now you're trying to out-ego me by saying you're way ahead of me lol. Your ego is the thing most hurt by this. You've done investigations but wont share them, because you're afraid they will be refuted most likely. What does it say about you that you're only willing to share your investigations/proof of it being a spirit with those who aren't going to challenge them, and just believe them? If you were really that certain of yourself, you wouldn't be so easily offended by what I'm saying. You being psychotic is not proven, but it's a possibility that people on this thread should be open to, as the people on here blindly accepting your spirit could be contributing to something unhealthy. It may not be possible for a psychotic person to gain insight into their condition without medication or the correct guidance, so you investigating your own experience may not be enough unfortunately. If you're not psychotic, you could be experiencing something extraordinary, but don't be so certain that it is a spirit, it could be many different things. -
ZenAlex replied to Danioover9000's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I never said I was certain you had a mental illness, I said this could very well be a symptom of a mental illness. Like I said before, it could be a spirit, but it could also be an alien, time traveler, or something beyond words to describe. And yes, it could well be a symptom of psychosis. I'm not saying it is, but it could be. Like I said, if you are so certain your spirit best friend exists, you wouldn't take so much offence. Why would you care what I have to say if you are so sure? Unless you believe hallucinations and delusions do not exist, you accept that people are capable of having mental illness symptoms that cause them to believe they are talking to beings that don't actually exist. And these symptoms can be indistinguishable to reality. I am open minded to many different possibility as to what this is, you are clearly not. -
Dumuzzi replied to Jowblob's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@JuliusCaesar Again, gods are much higher, more evolved forms of life, just as we are more evolved and higher forms than cockroaches. All of us are reflection of the divine and we have that divine spark within and a potentiality to return to source consciousness, however we are not the same, not on the same level. Perhaps it is easier to think of gods as very advanced aliens, to wrap your head around the concept of an avatar. For instance, Vishnu lives on the planet known as Vaikuntha, which is inhabited by beings that are vaguely humanoid, but have blue skin and four arms. There are descriptions of Vaikuntha in the Puranas. Vishnu's main Avatar, Krishna, also had blue skin like his four-armed form and had incredible magical powers even as an infant. In this sense, you can think of an Avatar as a human-alien hybrid. I hope that makes more sense now. -
Salvijus replied to Topspin715's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What i tried to say here is that no new rules can be invented in math. Math has only one rule. To be logical. It's a language of logic. 1+1=2 is logical. If 1+1=3, then it's no longer math. No math exists like this. That's why i sayed no new math can be invented. 1=1 is the only math possible. That's why all alien civilizations would arrive at the same math equations. And if somebody understand math in human world, he would understand math in alien world except that symbols would be different. Kinda proves that math and the laws of logic are universal (For now i think this makes sense to me) -
Topspin715 replied to Topspin715's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You could say the land of America was discovered by the Vikings and Columbus bc it was already there and they just found it and figured out what it was they found. the land itself was created by various physical forces that similarly created the entire Earth. so there are some things that can be both discovered and created. Accounting is a branch of math that I would say was definitely developed for human use. But is there any element of math that exists independent of human experience? the number pi was discovered I would argue and the fundamentals of geometry. Number systems were developed for human use but numerical properties would exist in any possible universe or alien civilization I would think Where do geometry and numerical identities and pi and the Fibonacci sequence come from? I couldn't even alter the universe in such a way that I would change those but I could imagine a universe where the laws of physics were totally different Leo says math is as real as a dog turd but is a dog turd not real? -
Salvijus replied to Topspin715's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@UnbornTao yea, it would be very complicated if we started to be ontological. Because from absolute level nothing exists, nothing ever happens, there's no such thing as discoveries and inventions. Without interpretion of reality there's just nondual eternal samadhi. But that's not very helpful for this topic right now imo ? i'd rather stay on a relative human level now and would define "discovered" as that which was found by observation. And "invention" that which doesn't exist, like a pure fanatsy, scy fy movie. For example physics is not an invention because if it were i could just invent new laws every day. What about math then? Can i invent new math every day? I don't think so. I think it's existencial. Here's why i think so. Someone who understands mathematics in a human world would understand alien mathematics just the same way except that they would be using different symbols. But the fact that u'd be able to understand it means it's not just human invention. It's something universal. Because all alien civilizations would arrive at exacly the same equations imo. -
ZenAlex replied to Danioover9000's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The fact that you're so offended by me saying your spirit friend is maybe a hallucination, tells me that you're not completely certain of it's existence either. Dismiss me as a rationalist or whatever if you want. All I'm saying is you may want to get yourself checked out. You claim you have been haunted which I assume may caused you great distress at one point. Your experience of having a "best friend" who is a spirit, may be the result of mental health issues. You tell me to be open minded, yet you're clearly not open minded to other explanations as to what you're experiencing. It may not be a spirit, and it may be a symptom of mental health problems. Don't tell me to be open minded to it being a spirit if you're so set on believing that it's a spirit 100% and there's no other possible explanation, and denying the possibility that it's a symptom of psychosis. You seem pretty determined to believe it's a friendly spirit who's your best friend. Like I said in my post before, maybe you are experiencing something that's not a hallucination, maybe it's something completely different that we have no word/name for yet? Maybe by calling it a spirit, you're blinding yourself from the reality of what it actually is. It could be anything! Maybe it's a time traveler? Maybe it's an Alien? How do you know that it's not? I am not the close minded one here, you are. Keep convincing yourself that I am the one with the problem here, and you are "enlightened" and I'm just a close minded rationalist lol. -
Heart of Space replied to Heart of Space's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I had a vision of someone else's hell state or nightmare state that was shown to me in a vision just now as I lie down for bed. It was a strange psychedelic alien realm where the person was stuck in some sort of metallic body suite coffin that consumed their body and suffocated them. Fascinating and very spooky. I wonder who shared that with me if anyone here. I could feel their struggle and panic, must have been an extremely difficult experience. @JuliusCaesarI'm on a tight schedule, I'll give you a more in depth response tomorrow on the computer. Must sleep now. Thank you. -
JuliusCaesar replied to Heart of Space's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It does, if nothing else it helps me realize you don't really think someone else cursed you, or at least you're not certain if such a thing is true. Believing that you think some sorcerer or malevolent alien did this to you is a misapprehension I think many here including myself have had. And as such, we've at times raised arguments that are basically tangent to what you're really saying and not actually relevant since they address a caricature of your actual position. I've asked this before and I don't believe I've received an answer. But what psychedelics specifically? And while we're at it, could you expound on what exactly you experienced under their influence? It's difficult for me to try to ascertain what kind of impact that has as I've never had suicidal ideation myself and have never really studied it in others. But intuitively I can say generally that it at least has the potential to have a deleterious impact on the spiritual practices you've done. The extent to which this can affect you is often underestimated. Similar to doing psychedelics, this can have a positive or negative impact, or more oftentimes some combination thereof. In my understanding, that's probably helped if it's affected you at all on the global structure of your life. In all likelihood, this has helped you. -
Heart of Space replied to Heart of Space's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is a materialistic or close minded skeptical perspective of my post, I don't really welcome this perspective. I will ignore all future ones. I'll put this way, either you have experience with genuine mysticism and believe it, or not. My phenomenon is so far beyond just the mind freaking out. Imagine if an alien abducted you, taking you around the universe to see all the wonder and awe of the entire cosmos and then when you got back to normal reality years later, you attempt to relay the story of it and some random chump on an internet forum tells you "it's not real it's just your mind freaking out bro." It's honestly pointless to address people who will see my post that way, so I won't from here out, unless it's truly thoughtful. @AtheisticNonduality Thank you for your thoughts. -
Anything short of seeing two aliens banging on some alien beach is not worth the investment
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The Ego Relies on Logic, Logic is the Path of Separation. The reason why those of Western Culture struggle in Spirituality is a result of being raised in a culture of separation. They are so use to competition, hierarchy, labels definitions, and concepts of values with pros and cons. Spirituality is the path of Union which is alien to Separation. The more logical you are, the harder it will be for you to walk the Spiritual Path. The two highest components of the Spiritual Path is understanding you know nothing, and being willing to surrender. The Spiritual Path is dangerous because it is synonymous with stepping into the unknown. To claim to know nothing is to relinquish your map of learning. To surrender is to give up control. The Spiritual Path reveals you never knew anything, and you were never in control. Once you truly realize this, this is when you have truly awoken. As long as you believe you have something figured out, you have just erected a boundary. To figure something out means you have a grasp, how can you grasp that which has no boundary? To understand something is to believe that you have constructed a map that can lead you to where you desire. How you can be lead to Infinity? Infinity has no end, so there is no destination. One is finite. One has a boundary. So how can Infinity be one if one is a boundary? We also say infinity is undefined. Undefined is itself a boundary, because that is a limitation. If everything is undefined then we cannot label something. So the only thing we can say....is Infinity and Oneness cannot explain the foundation of everything. The Highest Truth is the TRUTH CANNOT BE SPOKEN. If it cannot be spoken it cannot be conceptualized. So how do you learn anything then? You connect with infinity and it reveals to you through direct experience. Infinity has an infinite number of ways to teach you. But many of you on this forums think you already know...so it cannot teach you. The EGO always thinks it KNOWS or it GOT IT FIGURED OUT. The irony? Infinity does not think it knows....that is why we are here in the first place. Infinity is interested in exploring all aspects of itself that it can create. So you have human egos believing they know something that Infinity itself seeks to know....YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS UP!!!! I cannot stop smiling every time I see someone on this forum trying to TELL ME I'M WRONG. They don't listen, they don't keep an open mind, they come in and look at a link or a post and make a snap judgment. It is hilarious. I'm laughing because its soo damn funny. The irony is too much to contain. You actually think you have grasped infinity?
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Madness and the 'alien energy' (omniscience etc.) are related/ the same. This feels so much better This feels aligned This is healing Thoughts that crop up when 'madness' appears. To heal in the direction of 'madness', now that's scary . 'Madness'/the energy is irresistible. Just as healing and feeling better is irresistible. But it can be resisted still: 'More like my heart drags me there. I'm half unconscious by the time I give into my heart' . The purer/stronger the energy and healing or relief the closer to truth and love. The feeling is like a plastic band being pulled back and released back to centre, back to alignment. . Significant dream 3: God was trying to teach me about perspective. He gave me insight and told me that I have issues with delusion and absolute truth (not related to 'madness'). He gave me exercises to see perspective. I tried to see perspective through the delusions. I noticed that the worse the delusions were the worse it got. I was able to half distinguish between delusion and non delusion with support.
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No I am not advocating war or fear mongering . Just accepting the truth.Man is a war-like species that ALWAYS finds a reason for war. Let's go back five, six thousand years and cover history since biblical times. War, war, and more war ...Supposedly in the name of God. I will not blame it all on religion, that is only one reason .Point is there is always a reason .Man reasons for and contrives reasons for war. Many wars, including current wars, are held in the Middle East in the name of God .But then you have other wars, WWI, WWII, the Korean War, Vietnam War, etc. not held in the Middle East and not having anything to do with religion or God. Apparently war pays more than it costs . Why we have a huge for profit arms and war industry. So let's be honest and face the truth and decide ahead of time where they should stage the next war. Any suggestions Can you think of a new place to stage a war .We are probably not ready to have a space war, so pick some region of the planet where war can be most beneficial .political causes have become redundant and stupid .Let's make war pay How about, let's say a war between India and China to reduce World population . We can call it the Indo-Chinese War of 2022 Better still since we are supposedly a civilized species, why pick on any group of peoples or any particular nations. Why not have a lottery, which you can also bet on, and the nations that win can immediately start a war with each other ? So are we ready people, ready to show any alien species that may be watching us, that Man is indeed a civilized species and is quite democratic in choosing its peoples and zones for war.
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JuliusCaesar replied to JuliusCaesar's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's more accurate to call them mental laws, which are distortions of the law that states that all things, all beings, are one. There is a standard of evidence I'm following, it's direct experience. I know that probably sounds overly simplistic to you, but it isn't. And unfortunately, I can't like Leo just tell you to use my methodology. Because that involved me personally ingesting Datura, which as I've told you is nearly always a fool's errand. While that's an interesting theory, psychedelics, like everything that exists are created by our mind. Therefore, it isn't logically necessary that there be such a connection between archetypal beings and these substances. We imagine(though you as a human are not conscious of it at this spacetime) that they are more highly evolved sentient beings inhabiting foreign planets. The fact that we also imagine that some of them have made themselves into earth-bound plants so as to give us a foothold into their worlds has no direct causal link to the actual chemical constituency of the plant matter in question. At the same time however, due to the mental rules present here that permit mind altering chemicals to function in humans much as neurobiologists expect. If we isolate these substances from the plants and gave them to a human they'd produce some similar effects. This however, is not likely to work as a means of establishing a means of interaction/communication with these same alien entities as eating their plants would. As the reason these beings are experienced is because they've by their own power infused themselves into the Earth this way. Likewise when you eat them, they become a part of you, and you a part of them even if only temporarily as is often the case in low dose usage. You're stuck with a limit I had for a long time early in my studies of her(Datura). In that, I read trip reports from westerners using her on a recreational basis. When you study Datura's use by Amerindian Shamans and even sometimes their laypeople, however, it starts to become clear that there's a better way of doing Datura(you still shouldn't do it anyway for the reasons I've cited already but that's beside the point). I noticed that the tribes such as the Yaqui who don't practice fasting prior to ingestion have hellish experiences and suffer a powerful deleterious impact on their physical vehicle. In spite of this, they've somehow developed a highly complex methodology that's still effective in conquering her power. Many other tribes however, like specifically the Chumash of Northern California. Fast for a duration of not less than 21 days prior to ingestion. And the deleterious impact she has on the Yaqui they've been safe from. The Chumash have managed to see into the future of consensus reality with her, as well as many other very radical things. They also have managed to do magickal healings on an emergency use basis(little to no fasting prior) and to counteract/determine whether or not things they superstitiously interpreted to be bad omens truly were so(and it's common that they discover they were wrong). In such emergencies, the same danger is present here faced by the Yaqui. That the anticholingerics competing with choline for receptors tends to produce some nasty effects(humans derive their acetylcholine from food). Those being forced apoptosis en masse from nearly every organ in the body, and powerful delusions we in the west call schizophrenia. The schizophrenia is temporary, and only experienced if the entity remains awake. If they sleep while under the influence which the Chumash always do, then they don't experience such illusions. -
JuliusCaesar replied to JuliusCaesar's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This doesn't comport with my experience of reality very well. From my perspective, you're clinging to unnecessary limitations. I understand, however, that in your experience what you're saying ostensibly is true. But keep in mind that absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. After all to an orangutan, there's no evidence in his direct experience that it's possible to build a spaceship for example, he'd probably even struggle to imagine such a thing as it involves so many concepts that aren't real to him. It's something I've experienced firsthand. Though it's also something I've read in third-person accounts as well. This "physical reality" is a dream, and as such it's possible for certain sentient beings to bring it under the control of their consciousness. As such there can be and are alien entities that are more powerful than humanity currently is, and who are capable of doing this. To be candid, I'd probably prefer it if you didn't. If the whole world besides me were exactly like this, then I'd get to become the only human beyond the limitations of possibility for ordinary mortals. Also, until you can prove the things I'm claiming in your direct experience, it's probably best if you don't believe them. -
RMQualtrough replied to Bob Seeker's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's kind of frightening, really. The will without the free part. It's just creepy that things happen without anyone/anything deciding it. It's so alien to how humans see the world. It's honestly weirder than all the "Big Bang" stuff. -
Danioover9000 replied to Danioover9000's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Razard86 No, surely there's some originality and uniqueness? I get it with video content and other art forms, but what about your body? Yes, there's an evolutionary history there where you've sourced your genes and materials and so, but right now you have a uniqueness not matched by 8,000,000,000 or so humans on earth, or other life forms like animals, insects, reptiles, sea life. You are unique enough to not be a cloud, or an alien. An A.I will still have problems copying you completely. -
@Carl-Richard doesn’t matter.. if it was an alien, then that was the most probable. The point is, we can be mistaken. We’ll never know for sure if [anyone or anything] has an inner experience, or if it just seems like it, but since we can’t tell for sure, we can say, ‘good enough’. I don’t know if you have an inner experience or not, but it seems to like you do, so… good enough.