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@MightyMind sharia law is a part af the whole religion. Its incomplete without sharia. Its not necessary to focus on parts of the religion though because I have ascended religion as a whole...I can't see eye to eye with that. Even if you removed all misogynistic and toxic bs from Islam what ever is left would still seem very immature to me. Its like a college student reading a book from kindergarten.

@Someone here I second this !! ♡♡

It’s one of the most liberating feelings to finally stop defending a religion I once tried so hard to justify. I saw the cracks a long time ago, but only recently did I fully let it go—and the freedom that comes with that is beyond words. When I now see women defending Islam, it feels like watching chickens defend KFC. It’s disturbing, because the very structure of this religion was built by men, for men, to keep women under their control. The common excuse people make is that misogyny in Muslim societies isn’t “real Islam,” but the Qur’an itself contains verses that lay the foundation for patriarchy. For example: Qur’an 4:34 – Men are described as “maintainers of women” and are given authority over them. It explicitly says that if a wife disobeys, the husband is allowed to “admonish them, forsake them in bed, and strike them.” That’s not misinterpretation—that’s the text. Qur’an 2:282 – In matters of testimony, the word of two women equals that of one man, implying that women are half as trustworthy in legal matters. Qur’an 2:223 – Wives are called “tilth” for their husbands, reducing women to property and objects for a man’s use. These are not fringe ideas or distortions. They’re embedded in the scripture itself. To claim otherwise is to deliberately look away. The hard truth is this: Islam, at its very root, elevates men and systematically diminishes women. What made this realization even more profound was finding a partner who isn’t religious—an atheist who sees the world with clarity instead of dogma. For the first time, I felt deeply understood, without the weight of fear or guilt hanging over me. Islam had me so caged that even the thought of questioning it triggered images of hellfire. Every step toward freedom was clouded by the threat of eternal punishment, making genuine liberation feel impossible. Being with someone who doesn’t live under that shadow showed me how freeing it is to think, to love, and to exist without fear. Letting go of Islam was not just walking away from a religion—it was walking into truth. The moment I stripped away the misogyny, the control, the poison disguised as “faith,” I finally saw God not as a tyrant threatening me with hellfire, but as pure essence: truth, love, freedom, existence itself. Islam had reduced the divine to a set of rules made by men, for men, suffocating women and caging the soul. Leaving it behind was like shedding cancer from my spirit. I no longer bow to fear, I no longer defend oppression, and I no longer mistake chains for devotion. What I have now is infinitely greater—an unshakable connection to reality, to freedom, to the God that simply is. I'm here posting this because I'd love to hear about the journeys of people who have been through the same stuff regarding Islam

@Aaron p I second that

@Bjorn K Holmstrom yk I live in a country where I could literally be burned alive if I even remotely confess my beliefs. But its comforting to know that labels aren't necessary...I have to admit tho they sound cool hahah

Hey everyone, I’ve been deeply reflecting on my beliefs, and I’ve reached a point where I’m questioning where I truly stand in terms of religion. I was born into Islam and raised with its teachings, but over time, my views have evolved, and now I feel like I’m lingering on the edge of something else—maybe agnosticism, maybe something else entirely. Here’s where I currently stand: I believe that God is consciousness itself rather than an external entity. I reject the idea of a physical heaven and hell. To me, they exist within consciousness rather than as literal places. I struggle with the fear-based aspects of Islamic teachings, such as punishment in the grave, and find it hard to accept them. I don’t believe in the strict rules of modesty imposed on women and think that true evolution would mean men evolving rather than women covering up. I acknowledge that Islam brought structure to a barbaric time, but I question whether its rules should be applied rigidly today. I DO NOT believe in any form of punishment or torture or fear based shit. Its find to guide the barbaric masses with that mindset but I doesn't work for me now. With all of this in mind, I’m confused about what to call myself. If I were truly Muslim in the orthodox sense, I feel like I should have rejected these thoughts outright—but I didn’t. That realization alone made me feel like I’ve already outgrown the traditional definition of Islam. I've recently found myself deeply reaonating with atheist and agnostic friends etc..I’ve been diving into spirituality and epistemology, trying to make sense of it all, but I feel like I need clearer direction. So my questions are: 1. Given what I believe, what would you label my stance? Am I still within the realm of Islam, or am I something else entirely? 2. What resources would you recommend to help me navigate this exploration? I’m open to books, lectures, or any philosophical frameworks that could help me get clearer on my path. I appreciate any insight or recommendations you can give. Thanks!

@Princess Arabia I like your perspective ❤️

@UnbornTao that's interesting. Yeah we can have multiple purposes..

@Thought Art I appreciate your perspective. The Body listens

@Genius100x I understand your pov! It comes down to being miserable. No one wants to live miserably...society has definitely shaped my perspectives into believing that people as they age get more miserable. I see it as a reality because it happens around me. I hope it doesn't happen to me.

@caspex @UnbornTao Its just health ...I have hypochondria...idk if this will change in the future. And also...just something about living longer than when you have already accomplished or actualized your life purpose does not sit with me. Seeing that i have now developed allergies which get severe..and some other health issues (minor) just at 22 scares the hell out of me.

@Evelyna I'm happy for you! It's the health part that scares me the most. I fear bad health which seems to be a huge factor. I've seen elders in my family be seen as a burden on their children which breaks my heart into pieces...I feel for them. I might be childish in saying this but I wish i could give the elders their youth back its like...they are still kids in an older body...

I want some insightful opinions on this as this is a sensitive topic. I have always contemplated whether its even worth it to live past 60. My personal plan is to accomplish most worldy goals way before 60 (22 rn) and expand spiritually and intellectually as much as I can. Is this a valid plan or reasoning or do you think its based on biases. I personally don't want a very long life because I feel like union with God is my true home. I also don't want to live as a burden on anyone or in bad health and unable to enjoy things like I used to. I see past 60 even past 50 as a miserable age. On the other hand just imagining that my (50y old) parents said the same thing to me I'd be balling my eyes out knowing that they wanted out at 60. I personally see my grandma who is 80...as a very good example of this. She is miserable deep down...she never developed mentally or spirituality she's still a child. I'd rather not live that long tbf.

Hi forum! I am stuck in a limbo where I feel comfortably numb, yet not numb enough to complain about it. Let me share a little backstory.. My life includes practices revolving around spirituality, as well as meditation and prayer. I am not a highly religious person; rather, I lean more toward spirituality. I have experienced some minor awakenings here and there, most of which have arisen from my curiosity and the inherent drive within me to explore what lies beyond this life and the deeper meanings of things. Basically, I have never been a hardworking person, even though I know I am destined for something great. I often fall victim to bursts of laziness, during which I don't feel like doing anything, despite my mind constantly bubbling with intellectual ideas. I am a very intellectual and logical person—an INTP—but the funny thing is that I feel emotions a bit too deeply. I can pick up on the energies around me in every situation. Recently, however, I have become a bit too comfortable with how things are in my life. I was extremely lazy, falling into bad habits like eating junk food, sleeping late, and neglecting my spiritual practices. I would sit around, daydreaming and indulging in things harmful to my mental, spiritual, and physical health. I often clung to people, seeking attachment just to fill a void. However, something shifted within me, and I began making genuine changes in my life. After graduating, I have time before starting my master’s in February to improve my routine and focus on my spirituality. I’ve replaced cheap dopamine with healthier habits—meditation, fixing my sleep schedule, taking vitamins, and getting sunlight. Since implementing these changes, I've become much more sober, feeling a comfortable numbness. Recently, I’ve experienced a drastic shift in my perspective and self-love, which has changed my understanding of myself. I understand myself deeply. I feel different internally and am still accepting these changes. I have dreams and goals, including the desire to marry in the next three to four years. Instead of seeking love, I’ve prioritized my self-love, realizing I no longer need someone to fill the void. I want to make a significant impact in life, but I deeply yearn for love. However, since my transformation, I’ve lost the spark I used to feel when thinking about finding the right connection. While some might view this as positive, I worry it may hinder my ability to attract good things into my life. I feel strange and different, and I'm unsure how to accept this change and continue making positive progress. I used to react differently and think differently just a few months ago... it feels like my neurons have shifted lol. I don't feel emotional intensity like I used to, I don't think of myself the same way as I used to, I feel much more in control... however, doubts still creep up, and sometimes I think this could just be suppression or something bad. Any advice would be helpful. **Summary: I experienced a period of laziness and unhealthy habits, neglecting my spiritual practices and clinging to relationships to fill a void. Recently, I shifted my focus, making genuine changes like meditating, improving my sleep schedule, and nurturing my self-love. This transformation has altered my perspective on life, and I feel different inside. While I aspire to make a significant impact and eventually marry, I’ve lost the spark in thinking about finding the right connection, which leaves me feeling uncertain about attracting love and good things into my life.

@Hojo damn.