VeganAwake

At its core, everyone is afraid of death and desperately looking for a solution. Both are subtle attempts to avoid death..........that's why it sells so well Some would say it's an attempt to discover the truth......but they believe the truth will set them free, which kinda sounds like avoiding death. Fear of the unknown is a very very powerful emotion. Lots of money to be made in diminishing people's fear.

Sounds like a personal behavior issue. Nobody is forcing anyone to believe anything. But I get what you mean 🤷‍♂️

It's also for saying I hate you, punching, smiling, burning biblical transcripts, fighting each other with a shit load of expectations! Yup its that free 😁

Conditioned society and its constructs or parameters is like the external matrix. Internal matrix is more like the deep seeded belief systems taught to someone at a young age. An example would be like someone that believes it's wrong in the eyes of the lord to engage in premarital sex and may feel guilty and or conflicted about that if they had. Or Someone that believes it's their god given duty to solve world hunger and works tirelessly to send enough donation money each month and would feel extreme guilt upon failure to meet their self created goal. In a broad sense the term matrix is just simply referring to the experience of the conditioned self illusion living within conditioned society!

Haha yup, I use, self/ego/no self/self illusion/sense of self/separate self/self construct, all interchangeably.

Ego/self illusion, would never destroy itself. It wants to reap all the benefits of everything including enlightenment.

It's completely normal. Being problematic or not is just perspective. It can be recognized that this needy egoic structure that wants this knowledge is completely illusory though. But its not ego that recognizes it and eliminates itself, it's nothingness 😳

Basically when the self illusion dies, everything just becomes obvious. The body just feels more relaxed than it did before when it was running around in the matrix of self illusion and doing things according to its conditioned societal upbringing. Here it's obvious that there is no god or satan; heaven or hell; incarnation or reincarnation; no higher or lower authority or universal purpose or meaning. It's incredibly easy to recognize that all these beliefs and concepts are just fictional human made stories. Religion, spirituality, societal structure..........it's all BS.......totally made up crap. It's freedom from all that stuff! It's shocking and hilarious when it's seen clearly!

Nothingness was referring to the self-illusion which identifies as being the whole of reality there. Another name for that self-illusion is spiritual ego. It's not really there, it's nothingness in disguse as being everything. Reality doesn't have an identification crisis like conditioned humans. That Breakingthewall body over there is a tiny insignificant piece of reality, it's not the whole. Laying an illusory blanket of conditioned beliefs overtop of reality to suit the spiritual ego's false agenda, doesn't make it true. There isn't a "You" in which could be the whole of reality and never will be. I can assure you of this. It's not an opinion, it's a blatant fact. The self-illusion there has been bamboozled by some kind of egoic spiritual nonsense that sounded good. That is not Enlightenment. Thats delusions of a very strong and persistent spiritual ego that will fight tooth and nail to stay in control. The physical bodies that write back and forth on this forum are real, just like deer, bear, rabbit, fox, birds, trees.....etc...etc... It's that which identifies as being "the whole of reality" which is completely unreal

Nothingness

The thing is, I can't remove all the conditioned stories, theories, concepts, religious beliefs...etc....etc.... that most have been exposed to in life. Maybe some are hardened deep seeded beliefs. I wasn't raised in a religious family or culture pushing beliefs onto me and such. I don't know what it's like to entertain beliefs like karma, god, satan, soul, spirit, reincarnation, heaven, hell, infinite consciousness....etc...etc... Here all these concepts/beliefs seem absolutely ridiculous. When the mind is clouded by these endless conceptual stories and belief systems, there isn't any room left for basic understanding. The glass needs to be empty. The conceptual mind needs to be scrubbed and pressure washed out, like a young child again. The purging of the conditioned mind if you will. Enlightenment isn't about learning what's true. It isn't a knowing either. It's the removal of falsification revealing what was already the case!

@James123 @Someone here Hell I like you boys! We should have some tea together one day! It was just pointers to have a look at if you want! Nobody can convince. It has to be recognized there! Now back to my coffee, and humbling/ twerking practice videos 🤣

Nothing is incarnated now, so nothing gets reincarnated later. Karma/incarnation/reincarnation are just concepts created by humans. There isn't a you or a me incarnated in the bodies now.......it's just the bodies! Soul, spirit, karma, god, satan, heaven, hell, reincarnation ......... These are all just human made fictional concepts. That body is not this body the same way that this body is not a cows body and so on. Humans are desperately afraid of death. They simply can't face it and be realistic. So they just created their own concepts about life and death to make themselves feel secure and warm and fuzzy inside. Then these conditioned concepts are simply passed down to their offspring who get brainwashed into believing these silly concepts. Death is only scary because it's unfamiliar and inconceivable for the body. Death is the end of that fear, it's also the end of bravery. Bodily death is the end of the human story permanently.

Because when that James123 body dies, there will no longer be a self illusion to claim that something matters or not. So something seemingly mattering while the body is alive, ultimately doesn't matter later when the body is dead. It doesn't matter now either actually.......it can just seem to......and that's ok! 80 years of pain and suffering end up being identical to 80 years of peace and tranquility after body death. So in that sense ultimately nothing matters!!!!! GET IT GENIUS 🤣