VeganAwake

That which worries about the ramifications of becoming egoless, is the ego/self illusion. It's already not there and yet functioning seems to occur just fine correct? There isn't a real "you" underneath the ego. The ego is the illusion of "you"

Nobody comes out on the other side egoless and enlightened. Nobody wakes up. Nobody attains liberation. It's not what "you" thinks it is

The ego isn't something real To Be surrendered. It's often referred to as a self illusion. It's a self referential mental identification, a conglomeration of past/present/future memories and thoughts, beliefs, belief systems, concepts.......basically whatever seems to arise when asked to think about and/or describe yourself. It's not surrendered, killed or transcended either. It's simply recognized to be an unreal identification made of absolutely nothing. That's why the word "illusion" fits rather well. There's nobody running the body currently, it just seems like there is. The body already functions just fine. It knows where it lives, turns it's head if its name is called, has preferences and jumps out of the way of a moving bus, all by itself and prior to thinking.

Best thing you could do is leave forum and go take care of your family, they need you! Stop worrying about what you think others do

There isn't a right or wrong path......every path is neutral.....that's what the meaning of nonduality is trying to point out. Every path can't be known? Its freedom from that psychological belief that something needs to happen in order for THIS to already be the Grand Finallie. THIS is already home base.

The distraction is looking for an answer and the answer is looking for the questioner 🤑

🤣 oh shit!! 🤣

I believe that's a foul ball

What is "who"

Who surrenders and thinks?

These were just some of the examples that seem to make-up the illusory self construct. Additionally there are circular patterns of thoughts/memories of the past, present and future, beliefs and belief systems, concepts, negative/positive self judgments, numerous conditioned perspectives. These entire bundles seem to make-up the self character. And without a doubt causes an immense amount of psychological suffering when there is a strong identification as that. Sometimes for no apparent reason and in rare occasions, this so-called self character can be recognized as completely unreal.

Psychological suffering is resistance to circumstance. The physical body naturally attempts to avoid pain and suffering as natural survival instinct. The self illusion/ego/me is like the conditioned mental resistance beyond the body. (like a karen complex) It prolongs suffering and even perpetuates it. It's the negative drama extenuating beyond basic survival. It compares, overthinks and takes everything personal. (why me) Awakening is seeing through this problematic identity. Obviously there are still very difficult situations, financial and life stressor's that arise, but the difference is incomparable when nobody is resisting these circumstances. It becomes more like temporary inconveniences. Old habitual characteristics can still arise for a while, but they are usually short lived because nothing is identifying with or as that. Nobody left hanging on. The self-illusion/ego/me would be that which would attempt to identify and take ownership of these realizations...... as the "one who awakened" (spiritual ego)

What you're not taking into account is, if there's no one left identifying as that, who would suffer?

But then of course after a while it can become satisfied of being unsatisfied with being satisfied of being unsatisfied

It will eventually become unsatisfied with being satisfied with being unsatisfied