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Russell Brand is being accused of rape

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35 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

The reason I never got into serious trouble with girls is because my intentions were too pure. Every girl that found this out was not ready for my pure, loving intentions. So instead they ran away…… back to their bleak, familiar fantasies.

Man, I sound egoistical as fuck O.o

you can still incorporate all the characteristics girls love, like being edgy and "badboy-ish" while keeping your good intentions. Maybe don't shoot for a such a serious relationship straight off the bat, have a few flings, commitment scares most people off if demonstrated too soon.

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@Francis777 Thank you for the advice. I don’t even want a serious relationship with another person at this point because I see how big of a distraction it is. I’ve also never wanted kids, so that already eliminates most candidates. And the idea of marriage? Give me a fucking break!


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9 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

@Francis777 Thank you for the advice. I don’t even want a serious relationship with another person at this point because I see how big of a distraction it is. I’ve also never wanted kids, so that already eliminates most candidates. And the idea of marriage? Give me a fucking break!

I thought you had a gf, you broke up?


Know thyself....

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@Princess Arabia We actually don’t know what we are at this point, so using labels is meaningless.

She also wants kids, so…. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

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The ultimate relationship I’m after, is GOD. But you cannot fuck with GOD!


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Just now, Yimpa said:

@Princess Arabia We actually don’t know what we are at this point, so using labels is meaningless.

She also wants kids, so…. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

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The ultimate relationship I’m after, is GOD. But you cannot fuck with GOD!

Ok


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@Princess Arabia She’s in a really bad place in her life right now, and it would be selfish of me to interfere with her own growth.

 


I AM a devil 

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31 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

@Princess Arabia She’s in a really bad place in her life right now, and it would be selfish of me to interfere with her own growth.

 

No, but you can assist her by being there for her on a mental and Spiritual level. Maybe your presence alone may help depending your circumstance.

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8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

My pickup line for the night was:

"You're Perfect. I want to sell you into sexual slavery."

Is this for real? Hahaah your story about this made me feel like whatever experience I will be having in the future doing pick up is okay haha. It will happen sometimes 

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13 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't explain game to a girl. They don't need to explain their periods to you either.

The difference is that guys and society is quite empathetic, understanding and not demonizing of a girl s period.

Meanwhile for men sturggles regarding this stuff there is 0 empathy and you get demonized when you try to improve (pickup for example).

Why would a girl even be angry if you try to improve yourself by talking to a lot of girls? I did it with some female friends about daygame and they were super supportive about it. Of course if you start explaining them technical details of what attracts them it does indeed not go well.

Just the act of going out and talking to girls I think should not be demonized. 

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One time when I was a teenager, I hit on a girl at the mall. After a few minutes, a woman security officer walks up to us and she asks the girl if I’m bothering her. The girl said I wasn’t, and the security officer looked surprised and simply walked away.

This is what happens when you have nice rapport instead of raping people.


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Quite serious allegations, four main ones:
 

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One woman alleges that Brand raped her without a condom against a wall in his Los Angeles home. She says Brand tried to stop her leaving until she told him she was going to the bathroom. She was treated at a rape crisis center on the same day, which the Times says it has confirmed via medical records.

A second woman, in the UK, alleges that Brand assaulted her when he was in his early 30s and she was 16 and still at school. She alleges he referred to her as "the child" during an emotionally abusive and controlling relationship. Looking back, she says, he "engaged in the behaviours of a groomer".

A third woman claims that Brand sexually assaulted her while she worked with him in Los Angeles. She alleges she repeatedly told Brand to get off her, and when he eventually relented he "flipped" and was "super angry". She says he threatened to take legal action if she told anyone else about her allegation.

The fourth woman has alleged being sexually assaulted by Brand in the UK and him being physically and emotionally abusive towards her.

 

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66838794

On the other theme, quite a risky pick-up line that could go wrong and did. xD

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11 hours ago, Majed said:

@Leo Gura Yt leo hasn't produced a new video in 3 months, so yeah he probably is...

Only 3 months? Honestly feels like longer, I would have guessed 5-6 months.

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All Russel brand is is fear mongering. Never heard him say he likes anything hes always screaming end of the world. He has a daily dose of fear video quota to fill

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I don't want to support a rapist if he is really a rapist. That won't be fair if the allegations are true. Being neutral is the best position. 

I think one solid way to put an end to this nonsense of true versus false rape allegations is to have text message regarding consent before having sex. An agreement sort of. This way both parties are saved unnecessary stress. The women who make false claims will not get away with it since there will be evidence to the contrary in the form of a consent text. And a rapist won't get away with raping women because he will face the burden to produce proof that he had acquired explicit consent before sex and ensured it carefully. This way he has evidence(or lack of it) to prove that he wasn't simply engaging in sex without any self awareness but it was legit consensual sex and if he cannot produce that, in some ways he could be liable for being irresponsible around consent. The burden of proof is on both sides and should ideally be on both sides.

After reviewing some of the evidence (now of course nobody knows how things went down), it seems like he did rape the woman or at least forced himself upon her(which is obviously rape), if her words are to be believed. He got inside her forcefully despite her not wanting it. That's rape. I'm surprised she didn't press charges on him right away with the police at the time. It could be his influence or the shame she must have felt. 


My name is Reena Gerlach and I'm a woman of few words. 

 

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@Leo Gura

16 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

YT-Leo is dead. I killed and ate him.

Who ever gets this gif and knows what it is,  we are friends automatically 

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I revoke whatever I said before on this thread since I hadn't done my due diligence on the actual rape accusations and simply went on a whim and didn't believe it at first. Because so many celebrities get accused these days, especially with the metoo movement, opportunistic women sometimes come forward without any evidence. Although it's understandable why some women take so long to come forward since the power and influence of a celebrity can be mind crushing and there are NDA contracts and sometimes threats involved, not to mention the burden of public scrutiny and the shame associated with being tagged as a rape victim, all of this is overwhelming and makes it reasonable for rape victims terrified of reporting rape or even bothering to show up in court. These things should be taken seriously. 

Regarding the actual meat of the matter - 

This is what I'm reading - excerpts - 

Taken from the guardian - 

Timeline of sexual assault Russell Brand

2012

A woman alleges that Brand raped her against a wall at his Los Angeles home in July 2012 after she refused to join him in sexual activity with “a friend” of Brand. She alleges that she told Brand to get off her and that she wanted to leave, but he carried on and briefly blocked the door to prevent her from leaving afterwards.

She told the Sunday Times she was treated at a Rape Treatment Centre that same day, and had therapy treatment there for five months. Records seen by the Sunday Times show she contemplated criminal or civil proceedings but ultimately decided against it.

After the incident, Brand sent her text messages apologising for what happened and describing his behaviour as “crazy and selfish”. It happened the same month that Brand’s divorce from the singer Katy Perry was finalised.

2013

A woman who told the Sunday Times she had met Brand at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting before they started working together claims he sexually assaulted her at his home in Los Angeles. She alleges he tried to kiss her and remove her clothes as he pinned her down, and she shouted at him to stop. “I was screaming: ‘What are you doing, stop, please, you’re my friend,’” she said.

She claims he eventually relented but he “flipped” and shouted at her, saying she was fired. She claims that years later she spoke to someone who had been working on a project with Brand and was outside the house at the time of the incident. He allegedly apologised for not helping her, and said: “I heard you screaming” and: “We were all so scared of him.”

Brand allegedly threatened the woman later with legal action if she told anyone about her allegation, and she said she never formally reported him because she feared it would affect her career.

 

So these are serious things. There are multiple women. He was famous at the time, which gave him tremendous leverage in these situations. They must have felt pressured to not press charges against him, I'm assuming threats were involved as well. He easily took advantage of his influence as a celebrity and pressured the women both mentally and physically. Doesn't look good for him. He is looking really bad here and he needs to take accountability for his actions. He is in denial and assumes that fan support will rescue him. 

My final take on the matter - he should be prosecuted on this accusations because they are serious enough to amount to persistent abusive behavior around women and abuse of power as well. He blatantly misused his status and was being predatory with them, although fame has him disillusioned and he fails to see how the women were treated and how they perceived him. 

Regarding the two allegations, there was absolutely nothing consensual about it and in his latest video he calls everything consensual which is bull based on witness reports. He is being an overconfident douche in this video. Quite predatory if you ask me. 

I hope the victims get justice here because clearly he got issues he doesn't wish to admit to. 

 

Edited by Buck Edwards

My name is Reena Gerlach and I'm a woman of few words. 

 

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21 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Well, that is creepy from a girl's POV.

But probably not as creepy as your porn collection :P

I have in the past but it never goes well. Girls won't understand. Don't explain game to a girl. They don't need to explain their periods to you either.

?????"porn collection". That is why I never let a women even hold my phone. I pay this bill. 


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On 9/16/2023 at 3:07 PM, Raze said:

At this point I have seen way too many of these type of allegations get proven wrong, I don’t care and will assume innocence until there is actual solid public proof and a police investigation at the very least. I’m tired of the left destroying lives with unproven accusations.

Haha like Marilyn Manson's Allegations. 


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2 hours ago, Buck Edwards said:

I don't want to support a rapist if he is really a rapist. That won't be fair if the allegations are true. Being neutral is the best position. 

I think one solid way to put an end to this nonsense of true versus false rape allegations is to have text message regarding consent before having sex. An agreement sort of. This way both parties are saved unnecessary stress. The women who make false claims will not get away with it since there will be evidence to the contrary in the form of a consent text. And a rapist won't get away with raping women because he will face the burden to produce proof that he had acquired explicit consent before sex and ensured it carefully. This way he has evidence(or lack of it) to prove that he wasn't simply engaging in sex without any self awareness but it was legit consensual sex and if he cannot produce that, in some ways he could be liable for being irresponsible around consent. The burden of proof is on both sides and should ideally be on both sides.

After reviewing some of the evidence (now of course nobody knows how things went down), it seems like he did rape the woman or at least forced himself upon her(which is obviously rape), if her words are to be believed. He got inside her forcefully despite her not wanting it. That's rape. I'm surprised she didn't press charges on him right away with the police at the time. It could be his influence or the shame she must have felt. 

And what if after sending the 'consent'' text, the man starts fucking the girl too hard, forces her into a postion she is not comfortable with or just just doesnt stop when / if she has had enough. IS there a consent form for the positions allowed, the duration of the sex, the type? 

You see - there is no 'easy' solution, Having sex with someone you dont know well or trust is risky for both parties. So just dont take any risks unless you trust them enough to not claim rape if you have not raped them.#

To avoid being accused of rape, at any point, before or during the encounter - if the woman says 'no'. You stop. You get off. And you do NOT try and change her mind.

It really is as 'simple' as that to not rape someone. 

The issues you are talking about are false accusations which will be highly minimised if you take consideration and thought into who you place your penis inside. The same applies  if you dont want to get yourself or anyone else hurt - then you dont drink or drive... same applies to dont drink and fuck. Especially strangers. That is like driving some random car from a scrap heap and getting angry when and sad when it blows up on your face. ? 

Sex is risky as is driving. Take precautions… it’s really not rocket science. 
 

1. Trust the person

2. Be sober enough to drive a car if you are going to shag, particularly in the early days

3. Be aware of how she’s feeling if she indicates she’s not interested or not enjoying it. You stop. This could be in the form of pushing you off, saying no, freezing up, crying. Use your brain and if it’s too complicated then just don’t have sexual encounters with  anyone.  

 

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