Karmadhi

Well the fact that most people on this forum tend to discuss, argue, disagree with you on all sorts of topics shows that people here do not worth ship you or treat everything you say as some unquestionable truth. So i think it is safe to say that although we greatly respect and admire and value your work and opinions, we do not treat it as an absolute truth. So no worries, all chill.

Why are you writting here then? If you see it as pointless.

Issue Leo is saying Nivsch is that Israel gives special rights and privileges to Jews over non Jews. The percentage of population is irrelevant, what matters is that a Jewish person should be equal to a non Jewish person.

If you compare the West bombing of Yugoslavia it was far more surgical and less civilian deaths than this war for example. I have not seen the West in the last 10 years or so intentionally target journalists, medics, hospitals etc. Did the US have a policy of sniping childreen in the Middle East? Many other examples. The war crimes in Gaza are perhaps the worst of the 21st Century. To be honest you do not need to look at Al Jazeera or other media outlets which Israelis percieve as anti Jewish or biased against Israel. Just read what B'Tselem, they are Israeli and they seem to well report a lot of the horrible things going on there. You can educate yourself just by reading Israeli sources. Lastly and this is off topic. Which Israeli leader would you prefer to be in power if Bibi steps down?

I will go back and research. Busy right now. Just your tone seems to be a bit apologetic. Calling you Pro Israel was perhaps a bit of an exageration. My apologies.

@Leo Gura @Nivsch Issue I have with Israel is that it is not just Bibi or Ben Gvir or Smotrich. The entire political sphere historically has been filled with war criminals who conduct war in the most barbaric manners. You have Ariel Sharone for once, who literally personally oversaw the "Sabra and Shatila" massacre where 1500-3500 people were killed in 2 days. Then we have Begin who was being so barbaric in his assault on Lebanon, Reagan, an AMERICAN PRESIDENT had to call him and tell him to "stop this holocaust" for him to put an end to it. Lastly we have Olmert who did shit lot of war crimes and collective punishment in the 2006 Lebanon war. All of them in the last 40 years or so. Not to mention Naftali Bennet would not be any less barbaric in the current wars if he had power given by what he has said. Their ENTIRE political sphere is filled with war criminals. Therefore I doubt just changing hands of power will improve things much and I doubt most Israeli leaders would have prosecuted the war much differently. Keep in mind the ICC charges for war crimes are not towards Ben Gvir or Smotrich but towards Gallant, the minister of defense. I rarely hear people shit on him. It is always these 3 (Bibi, Gvir, Smotrich). Yet according to the International court Gallant should be in jail for war crimes. if you want sources for these claims feel free to let me know. The only reasonable one was Rabin who came from the left Labour party and was killed for being reasonable. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong

You seem to be very apologetic for their barbarism that is why I wondered.

Or perhaps the pro Palestinians views correlate with Truth

Are you pro Israeli? You seem to be. If yes, why?

Damn Leo, what has happened. You were quite soft on Israel but on last weeks, especially since the Pager attack, you have become as harsh as the pro Palestinians here. I am surprised. Did something specific happen or you just read more on the situation?

What the West should do is give Israel the Russia treatment. Cut them from SWIFT, sanction the shit out of them and cut ties with Israel. Obviously also put an arms embargo on them. If Israel using purely its own means still wants to fight its wars, then fine. What we want is Israel to stop being a spoiled brat that gets away with every evil the human mind can come up with without consequences. If they are willing to continue even after facing those consequences then ok. Russia keeps on the war even with all the Western sanctions and consequences. Israel is free to do so. But Israel should face those first. It has yet to face shit.

I think it is valid to celebrate dead IDF soldiers but not dead Israel civilians. Would you expect Polish not to celebrate the death of SS officers? Because that is basically what IDF are to Palestinians and especially Gazans. But my question was about the tent bombing which was sent here and whose videos of people being burned really made me sick.

@Leo Gura Is this guy Max good? I see him often on Judge Napolitano. I also see Aaron Mate and I like that guy.

I am happy you woke up to the truth. I kept telling here that a lot of the Hamas actions which Israelis claimed were shameless lies. Not to say they did not kill civilians, just the matter HOW they killed was lied about to make them look worse. There is a difference when you read "X group shot 50 civilians" versus "X group burned and beheaded 50 civilians". I also believed it at first to be honest, but then I did research and found a lot of the horrible claims were debunked. 1 example which stood out to me at first was a report that 2 packs of 10 year old kids were tied with chains and burned alive in 1 of the kibutzes. I found it really really barbaric and fully believed it. Then some months later, it was debunked as a lie and they never showed real proof of it. I felt like a fool...

@zazen Why do they do this? Just for fun?