@Leo why are you posting this on Instagram?

[thisintegrated]

How many points does he get for trolling on the forum and posting high?  He literally just gave me points for alleged "trolling", now he does this.

Edited July 25, 2022 by thisintegrated

[Arcangelo]

I saw the pics.

This is is his personal IG let the man live.

I like Leo even more now that I know he is (most likely) a gun owner.

He can defend himself and his women.

[Danioover9000]

@Arcangelo

12 hours ago, Arcangelo said:

I saw the pics.

This is is his personal IG let the man live.

I like Leo even more now that I know he is (most likely) a gun owner.

He can defend himself and his women.

   He said in the past he owns a taser and pepper spray.

    Not sure if the guns an actual real gun, or one where it fires hard platsic or iron ball bearings and not 9 mm bullets.

[MarkKol]

Obviously the reason Leo is doing this is to sexually attract @Danioover9000 and win his approval.

 

[Arcangelo]

On 7/26/2022 at 9:59 AM, Danioover9000 said:

Not sure if the guns an actual real gun, or one where it fires hard platsic or iron ball bearings and not 9 mm bullets.

Looks real, looks unloaded and it totally looks like a Glock.

 

[OBEler]

@Arcangelo can you Post the picture, I saw no gun picture on instagram. Or is this content with a gun censored for germany? 

 

 

[something_else]

Just now, OBEler said:

@Arcangelo can you Post the picture, I saw no gun picture on instagram. Or is this content with a gun censored for germany? 

 

 

It's been removed. Probably for the best, lol.

[OBEler]

@something_else too Bad... 

 

Man I hope you guys make not too big pressure on Leo to be "normal" again. He also said he will not record any raw awakening experiences anymore because of people like you who get over the top caring or criticising him for being authentic. 

You dont know how big of a pressure that must be to behave always like a authoric Zen Master. Let Leo be how he really is. Everyone has a maniac side

 

 

[something_else]

23 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@something_else too Bad... 

 

Man I hope you guys make not too big pressure on Leo to be "normal" again. He also said he will not record any raw awakening experiences anymore because of people like you who get over the top caring or criticising him for being authentic. 

You dont know how big of a pressure that must be to behave always like a authoric Zen Master. Let Leo be how he really is. Everyone has a maniac side

 

 

It's more that sporadic changes in behaviour without context can be concerning. Especially in a field known for people going insane, losing all groundedness, and committing suicide

Edited July 28, 2022 by something_else

[Leo Gura]

Everyone please calm down.

[Phil777]

58 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@something_else too Bad... 

 

Man I hope you guys make not too big pressure on Leo to be "normal" again. He also said he will not record any raw awakening experiences anymore because of people like you who get over the top caring or criticising him for being authentic. 

You dont know how big of a pressure that must be to behave always like a authoric Zen Master. Let Leo be how he really is. Everyone has a maniac side

 

 

Yes. I agree with this sentiment. this is how I feel.

But I also feel like it makes sense to air on the side of caution and to just check in on him. Like: are you consciously enjoying yourself, Leo? Or are you out of it and think that living or dying doesn't make difference? 

Some people here just generally judge way to hard.

"his brand"

"what are others gonna think?"

"This is really out of character for him"

I feel like these judgements are encroaching on him. Do you really know Leo? Are you really concerned bout him, the actual person or are you just concerned about the particular image you have of him because he is a source of comfort, guidance and stability for YOU.

Check yourself, do the right thing, be loving, don't judge.

[Phil777]

@Leo Gura I AM CALM SIR, WHAT NEXT SIR, I AM READY SIR.

[Recursoinominado]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Everyone please calm down.

 

[Brivido]

The rationalizations I have been reading to justify Leo's rampage posting on Instagram are disconcerting. 

Some of you will still justify his behaviour even if he uploads a video in which he beheads puppies, by saying that this must be a new way he's trying to awake you.

You don't need a psychology degree to understand that what he was doing was ungrounded.

If a friend of yours, which you know is a frequent psychedelic user, suddenly starts posting ungrounded pictures on social media, every two hours, and in one of the pictures was even holding a gun, you should be worried and not rationalize and justify his behaviour. He's your friend, you want to help him.

I have been studying self improvement and spirituality for over 10 years and I have made the "crazy" discovery that there is no perfect teacher and no perfect human being. So I am not judging Leo.

Please, Leo I will respect you way more if you will just be honest and say that you went on a psychedelic binge that got out of hand, instead of trying to justify your behaviour with things such as: 

Quote

You just aren't conscious yet of what I'm doing. There is a reason behind the madness.

You have built an incredible community over the years, we care about you and we are here to help, but please don't try to bullshit us. You taught us how to recognize self-deception after all.

Something good can actually come out of this, you can show your vulnerable side and become more relatable. 

[OBEler]

@Brivido Yeah now I understand your Position. 

Quick Character changes can be really concerning. 

Psyched Substance who take heavy steroids, justifying it with he only takes it because of low testosteron => heavy bullshit

Connor murphy who goes multiple times in psyche wards, telling it is just an act => heavy bullshit

A Community is not so stupid as some youtuber thinks. But who wants to be vulnerable in front of all people. 

 

[SamC]

[undeather]

I am not so much concered about Leo's wellbeing because his replies on instagram and here on the forum are still pretty coherent. 

What's a bit irritating, to me at least, is his choice of public representation. As one of the big self-help/spiritual content creators you inevitebly take on some form of being a role model for your followers. Of course people will be interested in how Leo's life looks like - he is the one teaching you how to improve yours. After all, why would you want to follow someones advice if the person sharing it isnt at a mature level of embodiment and integrity. Why would I take anything Leo shares seriously, especially  if there is a clear asymmetry between the quality of his life and the content he puts out? Now, here is where his recent instagram-posts come in. Its not that those are major red flags - but they do show some level of disconnection. Yes, its propably part of an DMT-aftermath, but thats a pretty empty excuse anyway - for obvious reasons.

I also have to admit that this is not the first time I start feeling this way...
It just doesnt fit the picture in my head of what an actualized person looks like and how he/she acts in this world. I have met many individuals who I would consider very fulfilled in their developement - who have figured their shit out and also share many great insights on the way. There is a certain grace & virtuosity in their vibe ...its undeniable and this is what I am kind of missing from Leo.

That said, I dont know Leo and he could be amazing. Its just the impression I get from him sometimes...

And no, this has nothing to do with being uber-conscious or above the madness. Its a simple question about relatability between a teacher and his audience. In fact, Leo demoted Nahm for this exact reason just a few weeks ago. This kind of argumentation is completely ridicolous.

Again, I am not writing this to bash him - but as a long time follower (joined at ~5k subscribers) who usually apprechiates his point of view quiet a lot, its a bit strange to say at least. 

Edited July 28, 2022 by undeather

[thenondualtankie]

@OBEler Not really on-topic but how is low testosterone not a justification for taking steroids? Steroids aren't really something to be too concerned about in my opinion. If they benefit your life then they benefit your life. For the vast majority of people, steroids aren't a good option but that doesn't mean it's universally the incorrect choice for everyone.

[Socrates]

let the guy express himself and stop being weirdos lmao ???

[OBEler]

@thenondualtankie lol you dont hit a massive dose of testosteron in your body (250 mg per week) for just compensating low dose testo. And Look at his muscles, I See these muscles come from too much testosteron in his body. He even became acne. He is a heavy steroids User. 

 

 

 

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