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Understanding Russia & Putin

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There is a lot of technical historical talk. I just leave this here as I am no expert on this subject, but I find this good as a big picture view. 
 

 

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Volodya announced Russia accepts rubles only now for gas deliveries to the US and EU countries.

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1 hour ago, K Ghoul said:


Volodya announced Russia accepts rubles only now for gas deliveries to the US and EU countries.

That's a big ouch for the west. Textbook of how to  play cards, his strategies are hard to counter with populism.

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It's not about missile strikes. It's about civilian casualties.

Syria: According to the Statista Research Department, almost 207,000 civilians had been killed by November 2020, including about 25,000 children.

Ukraine: Number of civilian casualties in Ukraine during Russia's invasion verified by OHCHR as of March 21, 2022: 2510 (The actual number is probably 2-3 times higher).

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On 22/03/2022 at 1:17 PM, PurpleTree said:

can you post some great russian electronic music?

don't know any i know german, french, italian, dutch etc. though

 

Just kidding :P

I don't listen anywhere close to this genre, but I do love these guy's energies. And they have grown on me and I like them now.

 

In Slovenia we also have a great electronic music scene. And DJs from all over the world love our party people.

I can't imagine going to a party in the US, where they start in the middle of the day and end at 2am.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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What’s happening now is really bad. Russia is fucked and I’m glad. I never thought it would go this far. Ukrainian civilians killed. This has gotten far worse than anyone could of imagined. I support a full blockade against Russia at this point. All of EU needs to stop Russian energy imports. USA should share in the burden and subsidize it so the weight of it is shared evenly between every country that’s part of the fold. 

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On 3/6/2022 at 4:22 PM, Lyubov said:

If we were to take a really broad sort of overarching geographic meta perspective on this I think people will notice that a lot of this comes down to the fact that Russia is both a)geographically very vulnerable to western forces, where they can easily roll into the steppe. And b) Russia’s level of development is in contradiction / vindication of what lies west to them. Countries around them democratizing directly threatens the overall societal structure of Russia. So of course Russia wants some control over these neighboring states. This conflict very much boils down to a clash of stages. Orange center to the west, blue center to the east. 

I personally thought about the meta perspective too, but I always thought that Russia was much closer to stage orange than say China. Simply put, Russia's government, society and ideals are completely European, and Russia has had that historical relation with other European powers (France, UK, Germany, etc.) going back centuries. If anything, up until the Soviet revolution, the Russian Empire's level of spiral and economic development was at the same level of other European powers at the time. If the red revolution of 1919 never happened, Russia would be more entangled with NATO, the EU, and Europe as a whole. Not trying to show some anti-communist views here, but I personally think when the revolution did happen, it took Russia back into stage red, and ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia was simply trying to rebuild, and naturally from stage red, they went into stage blue. 

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1 hour ago, kray said:

I personally thought about the meta perspective too, but I always thought that Russia was much closer to stage orange than say China. Simply put, Russia's government, society and ideals are completely European, and Russia has had that historical relation with other European powers (France, UK, Germany, etc.) going back centuries. If anything, up until the Soviet revolution, the Russian Empire's level of spiral and economic development was at the same level of other European powers at the time. If the red revolution of 1919 never happened, Russia would be more entangled with NATO, the EU, and Europe as a whole. Not trying to show some anti-communist views here, but I personally think when the revolution did happen, it took Russia back into stage red, and ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia was simply trying to rebuild, and naturally from stage red, they went into stage blue. 

Russia is kinda hard to fit into one spiral label. I would say it’s a fairly blue country with some sectors of the economy (educated in Moscow) trying to pull the population into orange but the values and the root of survival are largely held together by blue and some power structures are still in red like the police, military, mafia structure, etc. 

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8 hours ago, Lyubov said:

What’s happening now is really bad. Russia is fucked and I’m glad. I never thought it would go this far. Ukrainian civilians killed. This has gotten far worse than anyone could of imagined. I support a full blockade against Russia at this point. All of EU needs to stop Russian energy imports. USA should share in the burden and subsidize it so the weight of it is shared evenly between every country that’s part of the fold. 

https://telegra.ph/Situaciya-v-Buche-CHto-bylo-na-samo-dele-04-03

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First things first. 
Russia says it left on 31st of March. Meanwhile, it posted this: on its propaganda channels, saying that as of April the 1st they (russian troops hold the line, and are "mopping up the settlements". Any new pieces of russian propaganda to spew?

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Bucha news, recently freed from the dogs army

Mass murders, dead civilian bodies laying all over the streets, many with their hands tied - russians tied their hands and then shot them while they were defenceless, naked women laying on the streets, raped and murdered, bodies of naked girls, some under 10, with torn genitals, mass graves with hundreds of dead bodies on the streets, dead bodies in sewage. 

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Bucha, 50 km away from Ukraine’s capital Kyiv. Photos ~1-2 day old.

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Burnt russian truck loaded with stolen washing machines, one of the “souvenirs” the dogs tried to bring back home from their “peacekeeping mission” in Ukraine. Some of the other “souvenirs” include stolen clothes, women’s underwear, alcohol, jewelry, plastic toy cars, tv’s, laptops, blenders, other kitchen appliances, food products, money - all of this stolen from stores as well as people’s homes. 

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Damn, Russian soldiers are animals


RIP Roe V Wade 1973-2022 :)

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Bunch of savages. We need even more sanctions agains Russia. An entire embargo and curtain up. They need to be entirely cut off from the western world including their energy exports. Even if it hurts the west some so be it, they need to be totally cut off. They can go to China for their technology needs. Don’t listen to Russian propaganda. These sanctions are most definitely having an impact by isolating the country and lowering their standard of living and destroying their air travel industry. I’m perfectly fine with the west making Russia another North Korea

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it is strange that they have tied the hands of a 7 year old boy before killing him. it is possible that it is a farce, although it can also be true. but I bet on the fake, if I were Ukrainian I would do that montage, a good strategy

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2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

it is strange that they have tied the hands of a 7 year old boy before killing him. it is possible that it is a farce, although it can also be true. but I bet on the fake, if I were Ukrainian I would do that montage, a good strategy

Yeah, those cheeky Ukrainians probably sneaked on the set of the Walking Dead and staged some propaganda pics with the zombies. ?‍♂️


RIP Roe V Wade 1973-2022 :)

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18 hours ago, hello1234 said:

Bucha, 50 km away from Ukraine’s capital Kyiv. Photos ~1-2 day old.

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Burnt russian truck loaded with stolen washing machines, one of the “souvenirs” the dogs tried to bring back home from their “peacekeeping mission” in Ukraine. Some of the other “souvenirs” include stolen clothes, women’s underwear, alcohol, jewelry, plastic toy cars, tv’s, laptops, blenders, other kitchen appliances, food products, money - all of this stolen from stores as well as people’s homes. 

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This is eerily similar to what the Nazis did in Poland to it's citizens when they invaded...

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