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Enlightenment - (Scale 500 - 1000) - Dr. David Hawkins Calibrated List

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Where does one begin the search for spiritual truth self-realization called enlightenment?

 

Dr. David Hawkins’ List Below has been calibrated above 500, which is unconditional love.

I find this list important, as I do not want to be duped (smile) on my spiritual path by any book or teacher not yet teaching from the conscious level of (500+ which is unconditional non-duality love.)

Hawkins’ Consciousness Scale ranges from 0-1000, (1000 is the Highest Level of pure/consciousness humanly possible.)

“The great avatars that set the ultimate paradigm of reality and standard of conduct for all of humanity for thousands of years. Of those, the Lords Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, and Jesus Christ all calibrate at 1,000. All the names for Divinity calibrate as Infinity. The revered great sages and their teachings calibrate in the 700 (extremely rare), such Huang Po and Ramana Maharshi.”

-Hawkins

After being a student of Dr.  Hawkins for a while now,  I can share with you that I have forever been changed by his love. Although I’m not yet Enlightened I’m certainly on the path and nothing would take me off it, as I have discovered God’s Love is my LIFE.

According to Hawkins we, as humans, live at vastly different “levels” of consciousness. All these levels, along with the “truth level” of ANY true/false style inquiry, can be tested for truth and numerically “calibrated” through muscle testing, on a logarithmic scale of 1-1000. According to Hawkins, any person, concept, thought or object that calibrates at 200 (The level of Integrity) or above is positive (“power”); anything below 200 is negative (“force”). So far, so good. Hawkins’ “map of the levels of human consciousness” is highly consistent with most spiritual teachings, running the range from Shame (lowest) to Enlightenment (highest). Hawkins’ descriptions of the levels are accurate; his personal growth coverage , positive energy and similar concepts are spiritually sound.

(This is further discussed in Dr. David Hawkins book, Power vs. Force)

Below is Dr. David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D. ‘List’ of calibrated Spiritual Teachers/Teachings/Places/Books and Mantras that are over the conscious level of 500 UNCONDITIONAL LOVE:

[500] – LOVE

This level is categorized by love that is very close to being unconditional, unchanging, and permanent. It does not fluctuate nor does it depend on external factors. Love is a state of being. It is a forgiving, nurturing, and a supportive way of relating to the world. It is not intellectual and does not come from the human mind. Love radiates from the heart Chakra. It has the capacity to life others and accomplishes great feats because of its purity of motive. At this level of consciousness, the capacity to discern essence becomes predominant. The core of an issue becomes the center of focus. As reason is bypassed, there arises the capacity for instantaneous recognition of the totality of a problem. Reason only deals with particulars, whereas Love deals with entireties. This ability, often called intuition, is the capacity for instantaneous understanding without resorting to sequential symbol processing. There is a major paradigm shift in those things, which seemed real, which now seem unreal and vice versa. This level opens to door to benevolence, mercy, and Forgiveness through understanding and nonjudgmental. Only 4% of the entire population of the earth attains this level. Because of the dominating power of light over darkness, one individual at this level counterbalances 750,000 people below the 200 levels. This is the level at which spirituality starts, since below this, individuals are still caught up in the linear world. Also the level of a songbird’s song, cat’s purr, and a dog’s wagging tail.

[505] –

The level of valor. Also the level of Dante.

[510] –

The current level of Catholicism. Also the level of the Ganges River, which demonstrates the power of spiritual intention, the power of prayer. It calibrates there despite having sewage from 100 metropolitan areas, all kinds of filth, even bodies.

[520] –

This level interestingly sees much country music, which may be due to the lyrics often speaking about the problems of the heart, emotionally speaking.

[535] –

The energy level of Christmas, which is probably due to the common practice of giving gifts to others and having festive celebrations with good tidings.

[540] –

Joy – At this level, love truly becomes unconditional. It becomes experienced as inner joy. This is not the sudden feeling of joy because of a turn of events. Rather, it is a constant accompaniment in everything the individual does in every moment of his or her life. Joy comes from each moment of existence. This is also the level of healing and spiritually based self-help groups. What has been known as ‘miracles’ occurs when someone is at this level of consciousness. Only 0.4% of the global population is at this level. This is also the level of truth of Christian practice in the 6th century AD. This is the level at which the third eye opens, physically known as the Pineal Gland. Devotional acts calibrate at 540, because of the power of their intention. Includes folding hands in prayer, kneeling to pray, genuflection, praying at the Wailing Wall, turning a prayer wheel, etc.

[540+] –

From this level upward, it is the domain of saints, advanced spiritual students, and healers. A capacity for enormous patience and the persistence of a positive attitude in the face of prolonged adversity is characteristic of this level. The hallmark of this state is Compassion.

[540] –

The calibration of the music of George Harrison, on an overall basis. Also the level of Socrates.

[540-600] –

This level of consciousness is reached after a person has a Near Death Experience, which are spiritually transformative and allowed individuals to quickly get to this level. At this level, the world seems illuminated by the beauty and perfection of creation. Everything happens effortlessly, by synchronicity, and the world and everything in it is seen to be an expression of love and divinity. A Presence is felt whose power facilitates phenomena outside conventional expectations of reality, and often termed ‘miraculous’ by the ordinary observer. The spiritual teachers in this level are the ones who have the most contact with significant numbers of people. At this level, joy leads many to become spiritual and inspirational teachers, healers, great artists, or even architects who create the great cathedrals that involve sacred geometry, great inspirational music, and the production of beauty in all its forms. Many major persuasions of Christianity including Roman Catholicism, Anglicanism, Christian Science, and many small denominations such as the Quakers calibrate on this level.

[560] –

Carl Jung was at this level. Sigmund Freud was below the level of 500 because of his denial of man’s spirituality, whereas Jung affirmed the spiritual nature of human beings.

[575] –

The level consciousness of ecstasy.

[600]-

A Course in Miracles (Workbook year of 365 days of lessons.)

According to David Hawkins, ACIM calibrates around 600+, making it very factual, and quite enlightening. Here is what Hawkins says about the Bible:

Quote:

The Old Testament calibrates at only 190. However, Genesis is at 660, Psalms is 650, Proverbs is 350. If these are excluded then the remaining Old Testament calibrates at only 125. The New Testament calibrates at 640. However if Revelations were removed (calibrates at only 70) then the New Testament would calibrate at 790.

The current bible calibrates at 475 as a whole. To make it authentically “Holy” as the title implies, it would have to exclude all of the books of the Old Testament (except Genesis, Psalms and Proverbs) and Revelations. If that were done, then the bible would be truly “Holy” and calibrate at over 740. Importantly, the Lamsa version of the bible (Translated from Aramaic, Jesus’ language) is more accurate than the King James Version (translated from Greek). It calibrates 20 points higher. If the Lamsa bible excluded the old testament (except Genesis, Psalms, Proverbs) and revelations it would calibrate at 810. If Revelations were removed from the Lamsa version of the New Testament, it would calibrate at a whopping 880.

Society calibrates at 204 I think he said, with great minds on earth calibrating around 499-510 ranges.

So at least according to Hawkins, ACIM is very important and highly relevant work. Hawkins own books calibrate from 850-999.5 ranges them, with 1000 being maximum for humanity – that is what Jesus was when he was walking the earth. Hawkins further says that in his calibration studies, students of ACIM at lesson 75 become “Immune” to negative stimuli. He says that this seems to be the critical point in the studies, but that they must be followed from 1-75 before it all really clicks for people.

[600] –

Peace

– This level is associated with the experience designated by such terms as transcendence, Self-Realization, and Christ consciousness. It is extremely rare. Only 1 in 10,000,000 attain this at any given time. It is quite common that individuals at this level remove themselves from society, as the state of bliss that ensues precludes ordinary activity. Some become spiritual teachers; others work anonymously for the betterment of mankind. A few also become great geniuses in their respective fields and make major contributions to society. These individuals are saintly and may eventually be officially designated as such, although at this level, formal religion is commonly transcended and replaced by pure spirituality, from which religions originated. Bliss intervenes at this level and worldly activities stop, sometimes permanently. This level is also noted for the crossing over from the perceptual world of duality, to the perceptual world of Nonduality. Beyond this level, previous lives are easily remembered as well as the circumstances and significance of each life. One individual at this level counterbalances 10,000,000 below the level of 200. Perception at this level is reported as sometimes occurring in seemingly slow motion, suspended in time and space. Nothing is stationary and all is alive and radiant. Although this world is the same one that is seen by others, it has become continuously fluid, evolving in an exquisitely coordinated evolutionary dance in which significance and source are overwhelming. There is an infinite silence in the mind, which has stopped conceptualizing. Enlightenment is reached at levels 600 and higher. A Tibetan abbot once said that Peace is of the greatest importance in our world today. In the absence of peace, we lose what we have gained. In the presence of peace, all things are possible: love, compassion, and forgiveness. Peace is the source of all things. This is also the level of kinesiology.

[605]-

The level of the Kabbalah and Aurobindo. It is a set of esoteric teachings meant to explain the relationship between an eternal/mysterious Creator and the mortal/finite universe.

[610] –

The level of

Lao Tzu and his teachings.

[630] –

The calibration of the phrase Om Namaha Shivaya.

[640] –

The King James Version of the New Testament.

[650] –

The Book of Psalms.

Also the level of ‘I AM’ awareness and Awareness of the ‘I’ as being or is-ness. Also the level of “Shanti Shanti Shanti”. The Lord’s Prayer also calibrates on this level.

[660] –

The perception of the Self as simply Existence.

[700-1000] –

Self-Realization and Enlightenment – An individual at this level counterbalances the negativity of 70,000,000 individuals below the level of 200. This is also the level of Sages. The Self is seen as God Manifest.

The Declaration of Independence resonates at this level.

The Koran

also resonates at this level, as it was written before the fall of Mohamed after he ‘took up the sword’.

[700s] –

The Aura emanating from individuals calibrating at this level has an attraction and an effect on visitors. They like to be near the presence of these individuals because they feel incredible inner peace. Serenity replaces fear and anxiety in those who are around individuals on this level. A typical statement given by a person on this level would be something like “There is no world to save; reality is just an illusion.” A statement such as this is not understandable to most at lower levels.

[700] –

The level of the phrase Om Mane Padme Hum

[705] –

The level of the

Rig Veda

[700+] –

There are 22 sages on this planet who calibrate at this level or higher, according to Dr. Hawkins. Of those, 20 of them are at 800 or more, of whom there are 10 at or over 900, and one sage at 990.

[740] –

The mantra Om, as opposed to Aum, which is a serious alternation and is why it calibrates at the extremely low-level of 65. This is also the level of the New Testament, if the Book of Revelations is included. This is also the level of Mohamed at the time he wrote the Koran, before dropping to 130 after he ‘took up the sword’ at age 38. ‘I’ is seen as a total statement As the Ultimate Reality.

[750] –

Manifestation calibrates at this level. What appears to be change is the emergence of potentiality out of essence into manifestation. This is also the level of the

Lamsa translation of the New Testament from Aramaic.

[760] –

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

[780] –

The Heart Sutra and the Lotus Sutra.

[795] –

Bodhidharma as well as the Zen teachings.

[800] –

Teacher of Enlightenment.

[800s] –

There is not much that is known about this level range. However, it is seen that salvation of all of humanity is a main priority and concern.

[810] –

The level of Ramayana

[840] –

The Self is seen as Beyond Existence or Nonexistence.

[850] –

The higher Self as Logos. This is also the level of Hinduism currently. Also the level of Void, Oneness, Nothingness, Reality as Consciousness, and Reality as Awareness.

[855] –

The level of Allness

[890] –

Hinayana Buddhism (lesser vehicle) and Zen Buddhism.

[800s and 900s] –

Salvation of humanity as a whole is of primary concern. Spiritual reality, essences, and understandings are of importance. Form and its details are irrelevant except as a necessary style for communication. Physical discomfort starts to increase quite visibly in these levels of consciousness.

[900] –

Buddhism was this level in the 6th century AD. The teachings of this particular religion have deteriorated less than any other religion.

[910] –

The Bhagavad-Gita 

[930] –

the level of the esoteric teachings of

Jesus Christ as of the 2nd century AD, some of which survived in the Gnostic texts.

“After my departure there will arise the ignorant and the crafty, and many things will they ascribe unto Me that I never spake, and many things which I did speak will they withhold, but the day will come when the clouds shall be rolled away, and the Sun of Righteousness shall shine forth with healing in his wings.”

~Jesus, The Essene Gospel of Peace.

[960] –

Mahayana Buddhism (greater vehicle). Also the level of

Huang Po (his book “Dharma of Mind Transmission”

is at the level of the void 850, and was written before Po transcended to 960).

[965] –

The Buddha’s Law of Dependent Origination or Interdependent Co-Creation.

[965] –

Transcending the Levels of Consciousness, by David R. Hawkins

[970] –

The Upanishads

The Upanishads -are Hindu scriptures that constitute the core teachings of Vedanta. The Upanishads have exerted an important influence on the Hindu philosophy and were collectively considered one of the 100 Most Influential Books Ever Written by the British poet Martin Seymour-Smith.

[985] –

This is the level of an Avatar.

[990] –

There is only one living sage at this level, according to Dr. Hawkins.

[999] –

The statement “There is no cause of anything” calibrates at this level.

[1000] –

This is the maximum energy level that can be tolerated by the human body and nervous system. It is the extremely rare level of avatars from ages past. No human has ever existed with a consciousness calibration higher than 1000. The archetypes Christ, Buddha, and Krishna are at this level. This state is also the existence of Buddhahood, Christ Consciousness, At-Oneness with the Source Manifest and Unmanifest.

Beyond the human realm of consciousness possibility:

[1000+] –

Buddhahood, Brahman, Christ, Krishna,

The ‘I’ of Ultimate Reality.

Infinity – 

The Source of reality manifest as divinity. The supreme creation Source of consciousness eternal. The Source of all that is.

Interesting Facts

Concerning consciousness calibration, there are some very interesting facts.

* Powerful patterns are associated with health; weak patterns are associated with sickness. Every thought, emotion, word & action has one pattern or the other. Every moment of our day we are either moving towards health or sickness.

* Everything calibrates at certain levels from weak to high including books, food, water, clothes, people, animals, buildings, cars, movies, sports, music etc.

* A good amount of the music today calibrates at levels below 200. Hence it leads to behavior associated with lower energy levels of consciousness.

* Most movies will weaken people who watch them by bringing their energy levels down below the 200 level of consciousness.

* 85% of the human race calibrates below the critical level of 200.

* The power of the few individuals at the top counterbalances the weakness of the masses.

o 1 individual at level 300 counterbalances 90,000 individuals below level 200

o 1 individual at level 400 counterbalances 400,000 individuals below level 200

o 1 individual at level 500 counterbalances 750,000 individuals below level 200

o 1 individual at level 600 counterbalances 10 million individuals below level 200

o 1 individual at level 700 counterbalances 70 million individuals below level 200

o 12 individuals at level 700 equal one Avatar (eg. Buddha, Jesus, Krishna) at level 1,000

* Any meaningful human satisfaction cannot even commence until the level of 250 where some degree of self-confidence begins to emerge.

* When one’s consciousness falls below 200 at any given moment you start to lose power and thus grow weaker and more prone to be manipulated by one’s surroundings.

* Parts of one’s life will calibrate at a higher level of consciousness while other parts will calibrate a lower levels. It’s the overall average that determines one’s consciousness.

 

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List of Books – muscle tested by D. Hawkins

BOOKS

Bhagavad-Gita 910

Vedas 910

Zohar 720

Ramayana 810

Mahabarata 780

Kabala 720

Apocrypha 740

Tora 740

Koran 700

Heart Sutra 780

Lotus Sutra 780

Diamond Sutra 700

Gospel of Thomas 660

Dead Sea Scrolls 650

Book of Kells 570

Vedanta 595

King James bible 475

Lamsa bible 495

Genesis (Lamsa) 660

Psalms 650

Proverbs 350

New Testament (KJ) 640

Lamsa bible (minus

Old Testament& revelations,

but including Genesis, Psalms,

& Proverbs 880

Tibetan Book

of the Dead 575

San Hedron 240

Yoga sutras (Patanjali) 630

A Cource In Miracles 600

Book of Mormon 510

SPIRITUAL PRACTICES

Christian communion 700

Transcendental Meditation 220

Qiqong 195

Tai chi 310

Hatha yoga 260

Kung Fu 410

Rebirthing 250

Est 400

Sedona Releasing 490

Avatar workshops 245

Seth books 470

Reiki 285

Scientology 195

Rosicrucian 405

Science of Mind 405

I Ching 430

Theosophy 365

Druids 450

PRAYERS AND MANTRAS

Lord’s Prayer 650

Om 740

Om Namaha Shivaya 630

Shanti Shanti 650

Om Mane Padme Hum 700 

Gregorian Chants 595

Japa 525

Jesus’ Prayer 525

Rosary 515

Prayer of Jabez 310

Cursing (Lord’s name

in vain) 45

Damning people

to hell 15

Ankh (symbol) 160

Shaktipat Energy 160

SPIRITUAL CONCEPTS

“None get to heaven but by me” 940

Eye of the I 900

I (as divinity) 980/998

I (as allness) 990

I (as void) 990

I (as supreme) 1000

Buddha Nature 1000

Justice 380

Justice as “eye for an eye” 375

Theology 460

 

RELIGIONS

BUDDHISM

Mahayana 980

Zen 890

Hinayana 890

Lotus Land 740

Tantric 515

Tibetan 490

Won 405

CHRISTIANITY

1st Century 980

After Council of Nicea 485

College of Cardinals 490

Papacy 570

Coptic 475

Born Again 350

Gnostic 290

Modern Protestantism 510

Christian Science 410

Modern Catholicism 440

Jesuit Order 440

Catholic position on

pedophelia 90

Amish 375

Quakers 505

Unity 540

Pentacostal 310

Puritan 210

TV Evangelist 205

LDS (Mormon) 390

7th Day Adventist 190

Right Wing fundamentalist 95

Right wing fund. Tv evang. 90

Jehovah’s Witness 195

HINDU

Ancient 700

Modern 499

Hari Krishna 460

Subud 470

Sikh 420

Tamal Siddha Vedanta 330

Raja Yoga 485

Sahaj Marg 410

Jainism 495

Islam 700

Current Mohamadism 325

Muslims 205

Shiite Muslims 55

Judaism (modern) 530

Shinto 350

Taoism 500

Unification Church 150

Wicca 160

New Ageism 185

NAMES OF GOD

Buddha Nature (as allness) 1000

Buddha Nature (as void) 980

Native American Great Spirit 850

Yahweh 460

Jehovah 205

Elohim 100

God of Old Testament 100

Greek Gods 90

Germanic Gods 90

Scandinavian Gods 90

Gods of War 90

Pagan Gods 100

Name of God as “OM” tests negative

God Transcendent 1000

God Immanent 1000

SPIRITUAL TITLES

Master 700

Saint 700

Lord 1000

Angels 550

Archangels 50,000

Enlightenment 600

Teacher of the Way

to Enlightenment 800

Pope 570

True Guru 540 +

Guru (prior to 1960’s) 540

Guru (since the ’60’s) 190

Baba 190

SPIRITUAL TEACHER CALIBRATIONS

Avatars

Jesus Christ 1000

Buddha 1000

Krishna 1000

Zoroaster 1000

Spiritual Teachers

Huang Po 960

Gandhi 760

Mother Theresa 710

Meister Eckhart 700

Chief Detroit 650

Karmapa 630

Muktananda 750

Vivekananda 610

Ramakrishna 620

Rabbi Moses de Leon 720

Nisargadatta Maharaj 720

Ramana Maharshi 720

Ramesh Balsekar 760

Confucius 590

St. Patrick 590

Wallace Black Elk 499

John Calvin 580

John Wesley 360

Martin Luther 580

Dalai Lama 570

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi 410

Robert Powell 575

Joel Goldsmith 455

HWL Poonja 370

Wei Wu Wei 475

Charles Filmore 485

Padmasambava 595

Satchitananda 605

Meher Baba 240

Sri Karumay 221

Tenzin Gyaltsen 599

Alice Bailey 445

Vernon Howard 455

Patanjali 660

Peter Ousepensky 335

Robert Schuller 405

Thich Naht Hahn 460

Nostradamus 220

Yogananda 540

Lao Tzu 520

Alan Watts 485

John Blofield 465

Poonjaji 520

Bernadette Roberts 445

Ram Das 420

Chungliang Al Huang 405

C.W. Leadbetter 485

John Bradshaw 460

M Scott Peck 475

Gangaji 475

Joseph Smith 520

Emmett Fox 470

Thomas Merton 520

Hazrat Khan 499

Sant Thahar Singh 315

C.S. Lewis 390

Sri Siva (Sri Guruji) 220

Joseph Campbell 410

Source: Dr. David Hawkins numerous books and seminars including Power Vs. Force and Dr. Hawkins June 28 2003 Sedona Seminar.

Gloria in Excelsis Deo!

Source: https://nancybragin.com/2012/12/29/dr-david-hawkins-calibrated-reading-list/


NAMASTE

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Don't take all this hearsay too seriously.

David Hawkins calibrated Ben Shapiro above left-wingers, so...


You are God. You are Love. You are Infinity. You are Leo.

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3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

David Hawkins calibrated Ben Shapiro above left-wingers, so...

LOL

That tells you of his credibility.   


لا إله إلا الله، وليو رسول الله

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No way David Hawkins is this stupid. 

Sorry if it comes too harsh but come on, categorising the consciousness state of people who lived thousand years ago it's laughable. 


A thought can´t ever tell you how you feel.

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Gandhi calibrating above Ramana Maharshi is also absurd.


You are God. You are Love. You are Infinity. You are Leo.

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@Javfly33 Yep, this is what struck me as well. Putting numbers on these kinds of things never works. You can't 'measure' these things with such precision. Yeah of course you can say Jesus Christ > Osama bin Laden. But you can't really put numbers on it.


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34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

David Hawkins calibrated Ben Shapiro above left-wingers, so...

There is nothing inherently more spiritual about wanting the federal government to have virtually unlimited power.

Read some Daoism sometime then get back to me.

 

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@Leo Gura Due to the fact that some other measurements were not considered adecuted, I do not think these studies should be discredited. I suggest that you inquire about the studies of Dr David Hawkins. This is just the beginning, it is the beginning of measuring at a certain level the advances in actions, thoughts, books, personalities to achieve ENLIGHTENMENT. In a few years it will be possible to obtain better and more precise measurement mechanisms. "Measurement" sounds very "basic" very absolute ... however it is a way of guiding us to understand this 3rd and 4th dimension in which we live, other higher dimensions as well ... and where we are going. Path - path to enlightenment.

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This just reminds me of power levels in dragon ball z

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Posted (edited)

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't take all this hearsay too seriously.

David Hawkins calibrated Ben Shapiro above left-wingers, so...

They're about the same level 150-175 (anger-pride). Except left-wingers pretend they're above 350.

Edited by vladorion

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@vladorion I see why you'd think that, but for the most part that's just not accurate.

First of all, we are way over-generalizing here. There are certain aspects of the left-wing collective that are indeed like that of people like Ben Shapiro. For example, both are still entrenched in survival needs. But buy-and-large, left-wingers are WAY ahead of Shapiro in terms of overall consciousness. The quick-phrases that Hawkins's system uses (ex. anger-pride) can quickly make two groups look the same even though they're fundamentally different. Make sure to look at what's driving these different groups, what values each hold, etc., not just the exterior expressions of each.

 

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1 hour ago, Dryas said:

This just reminds me of power levels in dragon ball z

My enlightenment level is OVER NINE THOOOOOUSAAAAAND!!!!!

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Posted (edited)

Pop a psychedelic and all these imaginary people fly out the window, lol. xD

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3 minutes ago, fridjonk said:

Pop a psychedelic and all these imaginary people fly out the window, lol. xD

the irony ! :P

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4 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

No way David Hawkins is this stupid. 

Sorry if it comes too harsh but come on, categorising the consciousness state of people who lived thousand years ago it's laughable.

Agreed! To be of a mind to even attempt this is pretentious and absurd.

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If Dr. Hawkins is speaking of integrity here by way of using measurements, I can see how he has scored Ben Shapiro over the left.  It is not that I like or agree with Ben Shapiro.  I don't.  He is much too far right for my taste.  But, integrity wise, he does stick to his views impeccably.  And anyway how is Dr. Hawkin's method inferior to the colored spiral method of rating what level individuals or societies are on?  It's all very similar imho.  One method uses  guessing and rating by colors and the other by observing and using  spiritual qualities to rate on a scale.

This is just pointing out that we don't know everything we think we do about everybody.  Often times years after the death of an admired personage, things come out about them that were not known at the time they lived.  Look at some of the sports coaches and stars and big names in Hollywood who it turns out were secretly scum bags the whole time they were celebrated.

Hawkins wasn't making up the answers to who had more integrity than others.  He was just using a method which seemed to provide him with a way to question his assumptions and receive responses.  I also thought it was rather airy fairy at first, but when reading his explanation as to how he learned about and tested these methods it sounds a bit more scientific.  Especially when he tested questions using persons who did not speak his or our language using no translation, and yet the results were what we would all commonly expect. It still seems a little iffy to use kinesiology, but we have no idea how it might evolve in the next 100 or 500 years. Someone may discover it's the real deal when searching for truth.

 

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It's an interesting concept but to me it just looks like he was just going off on some sort of mental tangent or play for his own amusement. I can kinda relate to this cause I enjoy sorting and ranking stuff in my free time as a sort of hobby. Really not much more to this than that. It is somewhat accurate from a broad perspective but when you start comparing individuals on the list you start to see how it is mostly bologna.

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It's a joke


"Reality is brutal and it does not care about being fair to you."

                                                                                            -- Leo Gura

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@Enlightenment You and others have free will of course and can judge as you like.  What changed my mind, or rather woke me up from the judgemental state the ego prefers, was reading his life story written by a somewhat skeptical journalist who found in Hawkins general demeanor no evidence of being some sort of con artist or scammer.  It's a short but interesting story of a seeker of Truth.

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