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Conscious Capitalism, when the person using that phrase doesn't even have the slightest idea what consciousness truly is, quite ironic really. 

I genuinely don't know much about wholefoods, except the memes & a reaction video on YouTube to people meeting their soulmate in Wholefoods, genuinely one of the funniest videos I've ever seen. It was essentially a satire of Green run amok. 

@Leo Gura I see you criticize both Capitalism & Socialism from such a non-ideological perspective, it's really refreshing, as most come from a highly biased perspective & agenda. What do you see as a natural progression to Green & then Yellow in our lifetime, as you've said before outright Communism & Abolishing Private Property is unlikely to happen for 1000s of years, so just wondering your perspective on the next 'stage' of our evolution, so to speak. 

 


'One is always in the absolute state, knowingly or unknowingly for that is all there is.' Francis Lucille. 

'Peace and Happiness are inherent in Consciousness.' Rupert Spira 

“Your own Self-Realization is the greatest service you can render the world.” Ramana Maharshi

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@Leo Gura Before making any videos on economics, watch these videos:

Keep in mind though that Mr.Dawlabannini is also biased towards “conscious Capitalism”


''To be happy we must not be too concerned with others''.

Albert Camus

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Here’s a video perfectly highlighting the issues with you utopian ‘conscious capitalism’. John Mackey himself advocates for lower corporate taxes.

In capitalism, it is a strive for profit and maximizing wealth, and if your consciousness is not profitable, it’s not going to be implemented.

The whole point of Conscious Capitalism is to create a system within Capitalism that is post scarcity and puts human need before profit. But a post scarcity system that focuses on delivering human needs first is not Capitalism.

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''To be happy we must not be too concerned with others''.

Albert Camus

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I also wanted to add on a more personal level you can certainly create wealth “consciously” with a job / career / business / investments that is focused on helping people in whatever form that takes for you & not exploiting people. 
 

For example- look at Leo, the guy who created SOMA breathing, Wim Hof, numerous spiritual teachers, conscious nutritionists & personal trainers, it can even be done with businesses in fields like gardening, carpentry, cleaning etc etc literally anything! 
 

If you’re solving people’s problems, helping people, not exploiting customers / workers, then it’s a win/win, and can be done in SOOO many ways.

I know we talk a lot about societal change & the collective level, but meaningful work / business on a personal level can create wealth, consciously & shouldn’t be overlooked! 


'One is always in the absolute state, knowingly or unknowingly for that is all there is.' Francis Lucille. 

'Peace and Happiness are inherent in Consciousness.' Rupert Spira 

“Your own Self-Realization is the greatest service you can render the world.” Ramana Maharshi

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@LfcCharlie4  isn't this possible in socialism? 

 


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For a while there, it seemed like craziness was in the air and we were all just breathing it in. 

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@Preety_India sure, I was just talking about action we can all take like now, if you get me, to create abundance & freedom in our own lives, that’s all :) 

If I’m honest, I don’t know the ins & outs of different socialist systems to say for sure either way, it’s become quite a loaded term these days. 
 


'One is always in the absolute state, knowingly or unknowingly for that is all there is.' Francis Lucille. 

'Peace and Happiness are inherent in Consciousness.' Rupert Spira 

“Your own Self-Realization is the greatest service you can render the world.” Ramana Maharshi

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Also it's not be overlooked that both Social Democracy and Socialism both make heavy use of Markets to produce and distribute Goods, the main difference being that workers in both cases benefit from a far more just socio-economic arrangement. There's absolutely no reason to think that something like Whole Foods couldn't exist under both systems.


The problem is one of opposition between subjective and objective points of view. 

So either the objective conception of the world is incomplete, or the subjective involves illusions that should be rejected.  - Thomas Nagel

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@DocWatts ^^^^ Agree. 

I think we tend to think in extremes a lot which is amplified by the media & division we see today. 

Capitalism Vs Socialism 

Capitalism vs Communism 

Even, Socialism vs Communism which is a big one on Twitter haha. 

I think any ideology will eventually rot itself, Leo's conscious politics do a really good job of explaining this, and explaining how an open minded idea to policies would be so beneficial and basing it on Results, not simply ideologies. 


'One is always in the absolute state, knowingly or unknowingly for that is all there is.' Francis Lucille. 

'Peace and Happiness are inherent in Consciousness.' Rupert Spira 

“Your own Self-Realization is the greatest service you can render the world.” Ramana Maharshi

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@LfcCharlie4 For sure, any political system should really be just a Means to an end for achieving a just and prosperous society, rather than an End in and of itself (something that ideologues tend to lose sight of).


The problem is one of opposition between subjective and objective points of view. 

So either the objective conception of the world is incomplete, or the subjective involves illusions that should be rejected.  - Thomas Nagel

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@DocWatts That is such a succinct & great point, thanks for putting it so simply! 
 

And, of course society should at least begin to help people fulfil their potential on a “human” level & help them awaken, but were 1000s of years away from that it seems, I think your idea makes much more sense for the more short term evolution 


'One is always in the absolute state, knowingly or unknowingly for that is all there is.' Francis Lucille. 

'Peace and Happiness are inherent in Consciousness.' Rupert Spira 

“Your own Self-Realization is the greatest service you can render the world.” Ramana Maharshi

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Ps @Leo Gura when making your socialism blog vid, please use this video argument

This video is basically the consequences of applying Socialism to an agricultural pre conventional population

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@LfcCharlie4 yea who knew socialism would get hated so much! 

 


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The real problem is that our financial system is built on artificial scarcity and endless growth.

You can't have conscious capitalism when money is created at interest by privately owned banks. Or when people are incentivized to horde money rather than be generous.

Capitalism vs socialism is a debate that doesn't go deep enough.


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@aurum Hardly anyone knows how the private banking system works / how money & where money is actually created. 
 

I recently got a bank loan for my business, and it’s literally just digits just appearing on a screen, and then you pay it back + interest, and for those who can’t (there’s going to be a lot due to Covid) guess what the bank get?    
 

the real assets


'One is always in the absolute state, knowingly or unknowingly for that is all there is.' Francis Lucille. 

'Peace and Happiness are inherent in Consciousness.' Rupert Spira 

“Your own Self-Realization is the greatest service you can render the world.” Ramana Maharshi

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@Leo Gura  watching. I like the line where you say 

"for every 1 person who gets capital in a capitalist system there are hundreds of people who are wage slaves and have no capital." 

On point. Still watching. 


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