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Solipsism is True!

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10 minutes ago, Mu_ said:

It's not a easy thing to answer honestly, but I don't want to leave you with a cope out feel or avoiding proof. 

Let me ask you a few things first if you don't mind sharing, perhaps it will get you closer to the answer your asking.

You say you don't have a problem with the perspective, but a problem with how do I or anyone know that? 

1.  Why is that?

Well I certainly don't have  a problem in the conventional sense. I just mean I don't get it. Like when you don't get a math equation for example. You could say you have a problem with it. 

2.  How do you know anything for that matter and/or what is it to know anything?

Well that's a big question. But there is some basic facts about reality that are unquestionable like for example that you are aware right now. Other stuff are not so obvious and they require more evidence. Like if I'm aware or not?  From your POV you don't know if I'm a robot or a human being. 

3.  Why do you assume there is a small you and not a God you?

There is just one me obviously. This one here.  But some people think there is two you.. I don't know why! 

 

 

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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@justfortoday If you had a dream and the person in the dream told you that they had a conscious POV that exist, would it make sense? No! Because it’s your dream, you dreamed them to say that to you.

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34 minutes ago, Galyna said:

Sounds like Nahm :) 

 

This is exactly what he would say to me! 

 

Lol :) because after the realization, he is me and i am him :) 


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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5 minutes ago, Someone here said:

What does plugging some hallucinogens have to do with this? 

you wrote me that you were a knowledge addict, right. So read Carlos Castaneda, read other books. People did this for centuries, smoke some kind of stuff to alter their states of consciousness.  


"All that we know is limited, something we don't - is infinite"

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@James123 I am not playing here anymore, you received the best compliment ??


What a dream, what a joke, love it   :x

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@James123 

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

Lol :) because after the realization, he is me and i am him :) 

Well said! :)


"All that we know is limited, something we don't - is infinite"

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6 minutes ago, dimitri said:

@James123 I am not playing here anymore, you received the best compliment ??

Thank brother ❤️  :) but, what do you mean? :) 
 

3 minutes ago, Galyna said:

@James123 

Well said! :)

❤️ :) 

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"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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@Galyna will see.  I'm peacing out because it's clearly not going anywhere.  I'm just afraid when I come back there is gonna be another thread about Solipsism xD?‍♂️


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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@James123 no-thing ?

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What a dream, what a joke, love it   :x

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2 minutes ago, dimitri said:

@James123 no-thing ?

Lollll ?????


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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@Someone here were (before you were "born" on this forum.), are and will be....

Okay, have a good one, talk to you later, in another solipsistic thread. :D 

seems like you love them as much as I do! Just do not open one, people are already getting mad with us. xDxD

14 minutes ago, Someone here said:

is gonna be another thread about Solipsism

You realize that we are the ones here who do not smoke or take anything? xD

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"All that we know is limited, something we don't - is infinite"

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31 minutes ago, Someone here said:

 

Great answers thanks for sharing.  Ok lets dig a little deeper if you don't mind....

So there is a unquestionable fact that you are aware and I almost agree to... But What is the "you" part of the awareness, and not just awareness happening?

When you say there is one me obviously what do you mean....  A sense of experiencing something, or a "you" that is experiencing something and this you was born at  particular date, knows that it makes choices and thinks what it wants to and feels what it wants to?  If not, how would you describe this.

And why is this "you" you?  And not the universe arising?  Or a planet birthing people?  Is perhaps some of it because you feel like your in a body on the planet and this planet is in the universe?  I mean those reasons are very convincing, I agree.  (I'm not trying to lead you in a particular way of seeing, just want to know how you see these things, even if its not how I phrased my questions).

Also I dont know if you believe in the big bang or not, but if you do, what seperates "you" from the big bang still happening creating the universe moment to moment?

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13 minutes ago, James123 said:

Thank brother ❤️  :) but, what do you mean? :) 
 

❤️ :) 

Dima referred to this: I wrote in my other comment to you: "Sounds like Nahm!:)"

He is saying that it was a good compliment of mine to you :)

 

 


"All that we know is limited, something we don't - is infinite"

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All that exists is one consciousness

5 hours ago, Jacobsrw said:

I use direct experience to validate this which is the only reliable metric any being has.

that's closet Solipsism,

undoubtedly 

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@Red-White-Light   

1) Has anybody else in this thread agreed yet that solipsism is true?

2) How many , if any, closet solipsists have you noticed in this thread?

 

3) what do you think of what he's saying here?  Is he confused? 

 

 

 

 

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@Nak Khid he is correct in that your finite mind is not it.  He is not correct in that other perspectives are actually happening within your reality.  Projections of your own mind.

 


 

Wisdom.  Truth.  Love.

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5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Nak Khid he is correct in that your finite mind is not it.  He is not correct in that other perspectives are actually happening within your reality.

 

Your finite mind is not what? 

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11 minutes ago, Nak Khid said:

Your finite mind is not what? 

The finite mind is not "IT"


The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth—it is the truth which conceals that there is none. The simulacrum is true.

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Monism

Monism is the metaphysical and theological view that all is one,
that there are no fundamental divisions,
and that a unified set of laws underlie all of nature.
The universe, at the deepest level of analysis, is then one thing or composed of one fundamental kind of stuff.

It sets itself in contrast to Dualism

 

Idealistic Monism: (also see the section on Idealism)
This doctrine (also called Mentalistic Monism) holds that the mind is all that exists (i.e. the only existing substance is mental), and that the external world is either mental itself, or an illusion created by the mind. Thus, there is but one reality, immutable and eternal, which some (including the ancient Hindu philosophers) have termed God (Idealistic-Spiritual Monism), while others, such as the Pre-Socratic philosophers like Parmenides, were content to label as Being or "the One". This type of Idealistic Monism has recurred throughout history, from the Neoplatonists, to Gottfried Leibniz and George Berkeley, to the German Idealism of G. W. F. Hegel.

Materialistic Monism:
This doctrine holds that there is but one reality, matter, whether it be an agglomerate of atoms, a primitive, world-forming substance, or the so-called cosmic nebula out of which the world evolved. It holds that only the physical is real, and that the mental can be reduced to the physical. Members of this camp include Thomas Hobbes and Bertrand Russell, and it has been the dominant doctrine in the 20th Century.
There are two main types:Reductive Physicalism, which asserts that all mental states and properties will eventually be explained by scientific accounts of physiological processes and states, has been the most popular form during the 20th Century. There are three main types:

Neutral Monism:
This dual-aspect theory maintains that existence consists of one kind of primal substance (hence monism), which in itself is neither mental nor physical, but is capable of mental and physical aspects or attributes. Thus, there is some other, neutral substance (variously labeled as Substance, Nature or God), and that both matter and mind are properties of this other unknown substance. Such a position was adopted by Baruch Spinoza and also by Bertrand Russell for a time.

Reflexive Monism:
This is a dual-aspect theory (in the tradition of Spinoza) which argues that the one basic stuff of which the universe is composed has the potential to manifest both physically and as conscious experience (such as human beings) which can then have a view of both the rest of the universe and themselves (hence "reflexive"). It is a contemporary take on a concept which has been present in human thought for millennia, such as in later Vedic writings like the "Upanishads" and some beliefs from ancient Eg

 

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