DoTheWork

Leo, are you sure you want TOTAL awakening? HARDCORE seeker here.

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4 hours ago, DoTheWork said:

Awakened, but still in limited human form, feels like being an alien in today's world, where 99,999 people around you are unconscious.

This sounds like something I experienced very vividly once too. after a psychedelic flashback on weed it felt like I had woken up to the total meaninglessness and unreality of our human experience, it felt like a very very deep existential depression, existential suffering, that there was nowhere to go nowhere to escape. I saw people from an aliens perspective, I had lost myself completely and cried to my sister and told her that I had seen something that I could not unsee, that I had awoken to a part of reality that I was not supposed to awaken to. 

I'm still struggling with the meaninglessness to this day. No motivations to do anything, can't get myself to find a job, I still have a very hard time being a normal human being and lose a lot of energy just trying to be normal. The losing of myself into my infinite being is happening gradually, and I have an intuition that it is the very act of trying to hold on that causes the deep and depressing feelings of hopelessness and meaninglessness. The fear and deep sorrow of losing the illusions of friendship, family, the future, meaning. 

I have had very profound awakenings into our true nature, and I can say for sure that THIS RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW is it. All of the fear, grief, loss, feelings of meaninglessness does not touch what we are. All there is, is what we are. What we are is intimately involved but at the same time untouched. What are you trying to hold on to? Why are you afraid? Drop your ideas and be with me. Find peace in not knowing. 

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There is a limitation to the human experience, even in the highest states of enlightenment possible for the most spiritual of us to reach. There are simply things that no one can actually know while experiencing life through a human body. 

That being said, you can have glimpses of transcendental reality while alive in the human form, but to go beyond a certain point and be permanently enmeshed in these states is not (currently) possible. 

You can experience the One Self (God-Self) as literally all of existence in all dimensions, all forms, etc. You can realize this. What you can’t do is break free from the ultimate limitations placed on human consciousness permanently. They’re there for a reason. Attempting to do this will drive you legitimately insane. 

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@Mu_ lol are you not just defining subjectivity against the notion of what subjective is by use of what subjectivity is not.. in your direct experience ? 

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48 minutes ago, Anna1 said:

My career requires my brain to stay intact, not fried to a crisp. My awakening happened all natural.

Told me all I needed to know lol


"Started from the bottom and I just realized I'm still there since the money and the fame is an illusion" -Drake doing self-inquiry

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@lmfao total awakening is the realisation of the "now-reality" aka this cloud that your in, as one whole entity (you) with the collapse of duality and non-duality. 

that one, is simple the phrase not two just one. 

not sure what the experience of this is though, i know it as a concept

meditation, self- inquiry,  flip your coin. 

 

anything that's not related to this is just content. 

So from the perspective of this NOW, what was said here is just more content 

because understanding of the duality : non duality chain is the "structure of reality" 

but this is just a sector of it, that so happened to lead to the lost city of atlantis 

 

so content changes the now-reality , making it empty 

Now was simply just Now in different modes of duality: non duality 

and then its a strange loop 

 

total awakening is awakening to the now, accepting the content is just well .. a game we play until we hit the now- reality or infinite love if i'm not mistaken 

the absolute truth is understanding of the absolute truth and that is that there was never any life and there was never any death. However you arrive at it, with the realisation of now-reality alongside it

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The strange loop is fascinating right? The only thing to do is to continue and just "BE"...that's all.


The Matrix is everywhere, it is all around us, even now in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

Morpheus (The Matrix)

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@Aakash

3 hours ago, DoTheWork said:

guys ....  Life is inherently meaningless. And that is TOTAL. Are you really sure what life after total meaninglessness realization means?

 

After that, you basically have to DECEIVE yourself again to be able to slap NEW meanings to meaningless colorful shapes and to motivate yourself to get out of your bed again.

 

But in practice it's a lot harder than it sounds because now you have seen too much.

For example: It's like you are a gynecologist who have seen so many pussies that he is no longer aroused by them.

 

 

 

 

 

Hey man, sounds like you've gone through a lot and seen more then you knew what to do with maybe.  I'd be careful with making claims like, I've gone through and understood more than anyone here.  Comes off as a little arrogant? 

Second I'm pretty sure you haven't seen past some of the structures of mind/ego that seem to have tinted your possible infinite life times and left you with conclusions that you now feel are absolute in nature.  While you may have zoomed through infinity taking in a shit ton of wisdom its all been filtered through a mechanism called "you" and this "you" had its own limits and filters and structures of understanding this journey.  After going through such a journey you've come back believing you've seen it all and have understood an objective meaning to it all.  Hmmm that sounds like the average everyday male thinking he knows exactly how things are..... only now its supported by more data supposedly.  This objective meaning that you've come to the conclusion of is called....drumroll... TOTAL meaninglessness with a unique negative emotional tint and vibration.  Oh and how miserable this absolute truth is.  The only problem is, this is just a common time and time symptom  of the human psyches reactionto the mind expanding journies that challenge fundamental idea's held to be valuable and true.

This psyche in the spiritual world has been labeled as ego, a internal boogie man, a force of habit in which one of the characteristics is a fundamental  meaning maker, giving labels, reasons and purposes to supposed out there things, even if its meaning is no-meaning, and with this are feelings related to or in the letting go of these meanings.

Now by now your probably wondering who am I and why should you listen to me, a total stranger on the net, telling you of all people who's seen it all, that perhaps theres more to look into on this matter.  Well I'm just a nobody who has suffered and believed the same things your caught in now and can tell you from the other side, that your stuck in MEANING itself.  Meaninglessness, pointlessness, and nothingness are all on the plain of meaning.  The absents of thingsness, the absents of point, the absents of meaning is true freedom from yoyo effects of the mind generator of meaning.  Its to understand outside of the plain of meaning, not within the structure of ego mind meaning and see some supposed no meaning to it all because it all repeats, its all the same on some level, it all gets boring and thus....its pointless, it all comes full circle and blah blah blah blah blah, meaningless meaningless, meaningless.......  you may be one miliblip away from a full blown positively tinted awakening that isn't tied to this subtle psyche that your still stuck in, but until you see this (and perhaps until you admit to yourself that you don't know it all, haven't seen it all, and that your conclusions are not conclusive and never will be), you will never know the freedom I am pointing to.  And before you wrap that last sentence into a known conclusion such as "well its just one of the infinite views out there and it will pass, and is no different than anything else, since its all One" (I know you ego, I've seen your tricks, I've gone through them), really try and be open and ponder the possibility.

Try and get through the first 30 mins of this video, it really points to something I'm expressing here in the dropping of "you" and letting go in a positive way to many of the truths you seem to have seen, but still from a limited "you/psyche".  (I'm not a buddhist and apparently this guy has some allegations against him, he still describes an apsect of truth beautifully in these first 15-30 mins).

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@Mu_

what he's doesn't know that he really meant to say was 

he's realised more of the absolute truth of reality. 

 

other than that point, you have very viable questions, which i do not have the answers to via experience :) 

 

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41 minutes ago, Aakash said:

@Mu_ lol are you not just defining subjectivity against the notion of what subjective is by use of what subjectivity is not.. in your direct experience ? 

While yes! subjectivity is inherent, the statement you made "when you realise the raw reality of things is subjective. It can be no other way. Its accepting this thats the difficult part.", is not pointing to anything inherent about subjectivty, except a emotional opinion and conclusion that reflects your inherent beliefs about life having no meaning, in a negative sense.

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@Mu_ Raw reality is your direct experience and then you add subjectivity to it ? 

its the same thing said in two different way. 

my brain has stopped working lol, you've mind fucked me by not agreeing that reality is subjective. 

Although having said that i see what you mean from your end. 

its this conversation that reality has its own meaning of being. 

yes you are correct :) good night 

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14 minutes ago, Aakash said:

@Mu_ Raw reality is your direct experience and then you add subjectivity to it ? 

its the same thing said in two different way. 

maybe I misread the intentions behind your statement, you've been talking about the pointlessness of matters so much I thought you were referring to that when you said "its accepting this that is the difficult part".  To me its only difficult when you have an idea of what the fact of "subjectivity" means, particularly if you feel that subjectivity having no meaning is actually true (because perhaps at one point before you believed your subjective world was true and had inherent value and seeing through this brought the conclusion that since its self derived and all subjectivity is self derived its got no inherent value or meaning and thus meaninglessness with a negative tint was born and believed and is now spoken as absolute truth).

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1 hour ago, Aakash said:

@lmfao total awakening is the realisation of the "now-reality" aka this cloud that your in, as one whole entity (you) with the collapse of duality and non-duality. 

that one, is simple the phrase not two just one. 

not sure what the experience of this is though, i know it as a concept

meditation, self- inquiry,  flip your coin. 

 

anything that's not related to this is just content. 

So from the perspective of this NOW, what was said here is just more content 

because understanding of the duality : non duality chain is the "structure of reality" 

but this is just a sector of it, that so happened to lead to the lost city of atlantis 

 

so content changes the now-reality , making it empty 

Now was simply just Now in different modes of duality: non duality 

and then its a strange loop 

 

total awakening is awakening to the now, accepting the content is just well .. a game we play until we hit the now- reality or infinite love if i'm not mistaken 

the absolute truth is understanding of the absolute truth and that is that there was never any life and there was never any death. However you arrive at it, with the realisation of now-reality alongside it

Who knows what the infinity of "total awakening" is until it happens. My prejudice has been that if one was "completely awake" , the experience would be a twin to the experience of physical death. The same as physical death but completely different at the same time. At that point, who is it that's aware that they are awake? 

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@lmfao yes direct experience is king

the space in your room is the true you aware of you, your body is the space in the room

so imagine the space in your room looking at you 

and then imagine the yourself on planet earth the space looking at you 

then the universe 

etc .. etc.. as far as you can go 

and that is an image of the one who is aware, the present moment, 

just a single movement, without the concept of time

 

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8 hours ago, Aakash said:

you still have not really realized how pointless it is. 

maybe the only person who has realized how pointless it is,is god? thats why god stays in emptyness altogther? dumb answers idk

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@DoTheWork The world is meaningless because you lack grounding.
I highly doubt that there is something that can ground an ego of the size of yours.

I was once in contact with a seeker that was so conscious that he decided to imagine his own suffering to become dormant again.
Do you know what he did afterwards? He started seeking the way back to the top.

 


Understand, then, that it is not because of your righteousness that the LORD, your God, is giving you this good land to possess, for you are a stiff-necked people.
Dt 9:6

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@Aakash @DoTheWork
Have you ever considered that all these "insights" are just more very complicated fucked up drug induced  thinking and have nothing to do with actual enlightement ? 

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