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How does becoming enlightened help solve the worlds problems?

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Why is enlightenment so crucial if you want to ease the suffering of others and find permanent solutions to humanities problems? Do non dual people even perceive problems? Why wouldn't enlightenment make you indifferent to the dualistic world?

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@Onecirrus You've found a fantasized belief about enlightenment. Enlightenment does not make the world any better. Enlightenment is knowing what the world is.

If you want to make the world a better place, then work on your mental patterns. Find out what is toxic and what is not. Let go of harmful thoughts, words and acts. This is the path of purification, which is different from enlightenment.


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@Onecirrus Because God Will flow through you. 

You are exactly where you need to be. Nothing in your life happens without reason. You May look at it as divine Orchestration. 

You are on right path. Know you are loved. Be Love and you Will figure things out, eventually. 🙏❤️

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1 hour ago, Onecirrus said:

Why is enlightenment so crucial if you want to ease the suffering of others and find permanent solutions to humanities problems? Do non dual people even perceive problems? Why wouldn't enlightenment make you indifferent to the dualistic world?

@Onecirrus Actualized.org is but one example of enlightenment helping the world solve it's problems. Are you in? 

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@Onecirrus It is crucial because all of humanities "problems" stem from the inner neurosis of the mind, the assumption of being a separate individual self. 

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@Onecirrus first off great question.

Keep in mind that God is Love.  It has no oppistite..  Evil only happens/exists when one isn't conscious they are God.

For all of humanity to awaken is for God to awaken himself fully by awakening all of his parts.

 


We must not cease from exploration and at the end of all our exploring will be to arrive at the place where we began and to know the place for the first time.       --T.S Eliot

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@Onecirrus when you are happy you will make others too happy.If you are miserable you project your misery and suffering on others as well.So that's the message.

But selfrealisation doesn't solve the poverty,disease and other worldly issues that is all the problems related to the body.So one have take care of earning,family,health and all other issues with a much better clarity and calmness.

Like ajasatya said purity of mind also is parallely important in the path .

which is emphasized by traditional masters and overlooked by the modern I guess.

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There are no problems in the world. Once Enlightenment happens, it becomes clear that there is nothing to fix.

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All problems are relative then? 


"The narcissist becomes one with everything, because the narcissist is everything and everything is the narcissist" -Sam Vaknin

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Mate how can we talk about anything when nothing exists? If you want to improve the dream then start donating to charities, but also acknowledge that realizing your true nature will make you as loving (and as powerful) as Jesus [God in the flesh]

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@Onecirrus Here's a straight up enlightened view of how the world can heal itself if it chooses to. Whether it chooses to or not is totally up to the world.  

 

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When the world disappears, what problems are left to solve? ;)

Problems only occur within the relative domain, as a function of survival. They are important to solve, but only from the relative domain. From the Absolute nothing needs solving.

The most powerful way of solving a problem is by realizing it's not even a problem.


"Be melting snow. Wash yourself of yourself." -- Rumi

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@Leo Gura Finally you’ve come round to it. How many times did I say this? And you labelled me a zen devil. 

Well, at least you understand now. That’s good.


"It’s a good one, it just isn’t real.” — Byron Katie

 

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1 minute ago, How to be wise said:

@Leo Gura Finally you’ve come round to it. How many times did I say this? And you labelled me a zen devil. 

Well, at least you understand now. That’s good.

I have not come around to anything.

You are still conflating relative & absolute domains.

Notice the nuance in how I phrased things.


"Be melting snow. Wash yourself of yourself." -- Rumi

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@Leo Gura do you not agree that the world is an illusion, only happening in our minds? The starving children in Africa are just images in your mind. They don’t exist in a material world.


"It’s a good one, it just isn’t real.” — Byron Katie

 

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@Onecirrus

Imagine someone whose hands are terribly shaking, trying to reach their mouth with a spoon. That's most people, unenlightened.

How can you solve the world problems when you are the biggest problem?

Edited by Truth Addict

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The way I see it is that enlightenment fundamentally is about understanding what life and existence is.

If we want to solve any problem, small or big, we first need to understand it very well.

If we want to solve a math problem, we have to learn math first. Likewise, if we want to solve the world's problems we have to become enlightened first ;)


Hard times create strong men. 
Strong men create good times. 
Good times create weak men.
Weak men create hard times.

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@How to be wise He called you a zen devil because you putsue enlightenment for self serving reasons. That self Will never get enlightened. 

Who gets enlightened, mostly Saints sages monks good hearted pure honest people. 

Why is that you might ask. Reason is God is Love and Truth and self is a lie and Self denial. God is also totally selfless. 

Do practises and you Will get it. All answers are within. 

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"How does becoming enlightened help solve the worlds problems?"

 

It doesn"t.

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@Onecirrus Perhaps start with formulating and expressing what you define as your most immediate problems. Then be open to other ways of interpreting those, and open to practices that have worked for millions of people for thousands of years. 


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Empty your head, fulfill your heart       

 

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