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"Leo, but what if you're deluded?"

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3 minutes ago, arlin said:

How are there episodes called?

Somebody knows?

conveniently there is a playlist on this already set up.

 

 

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Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you?
1 Corinthians 3:16

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13 minutes ago, Winter said:

But math is all poetry and art :x

Yes, but over-rational people misunderstand that.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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32 minutes ago, Truth Addict said:

@Scholar Still, the difference is that I am aware of my map, while they're not.

pretty hefty statement, you sure you didn't land in a honey pot?

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1 minute ago, Omni said:

pretty hefty statement, you sure you didn't land in a honey pot?

I'd say yes, because I'm open to being wrong.

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5 minutes ago, Truth Addict said:

I'd say yes, because I'm open to being wrong.

That's good, but that doesn't make you right.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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2 minutes ago, Truth Addict said:

I'd say yes, because I'm open to being wrong.

Your objections and disagreements are a proper step to "truth" - though are you questioning your desire for where you want Leo to go with Actualized.org? You proclaim strong objections while stating that you're aware of the map/territory, of course i don't have enough insight into your situation to tell you this as a fact, it seems like you stumbled into a trap.
 

Keep in mind while all of this is going on you're using the models Leo has set up, lingo and all to objectify his own work, which is actually the point. But It seems as if you're getting lost in the identification here.

 

 

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Shut that pill in your gut if your mind can't shut up, you will see ?

You will become a docile believer very quickly, bowing down to the ultimate will of the almighty ?

There is no discussion to have about that, you did or did not experienced God.

And if you did just one second you would never stop chasing or running from it ??


God is love

Whoever lives in love lives in God

And God in them

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@Leo Gura One other thing Leo, do you think it's necessary to describe God in very detailed ways to us? I mean you can simply say that it's utterly magnificent and beautiful and you can use metaphors, what I dislike is the trying to communicate God with language while you are aware that it's impossible to begin with.

And yes, I know that I don't know until I know because it was proven to me so many times, so I'm not making conclusions here, I'm just being skeptical and honest.

@Omni would I not be allowed to vote for Trump if I were enlightened? I can have strong opinions and be detached at the same time. There's no suffering for me here. I've actually enjoyed the discussion, the agreements and the disagreements.

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10 minutes ago, Truth Addict said:

@Omni would I not be allowed to vote for Trump if I were enlightened? I can have strong opinions and be detached at the same time. There's no suffering for me here. I've actually enjoyed the discussion, the agreements and the disagreements.

I'm not telling you what you would, should, could or (n't) do with or without enlightenment - quite frankly that example is arbitrary and somewhat missing my point.

I'm simply pointing out the strong sense of identification. Nor am I saying you're suffering just because you're strongly identifying either, in fact gaining pleasure/enjoyment from egoic actions is precisely the reason egoic actions are so easy to pursue. Of course I don't know you well enough or even myself enough for that matter to take a guess whether or not you're enlightened or even close. 

My question for you:

Why do you see Leo aiming at lower stages on the spiral as disappointing? There's more here than just what appeals to you, and targeting more demographics on the spiral is actually beneficial to us all.

 

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@Truth Addict if Leo’s deluded, you’re deluded. It’s that simple.

All there is IS delusion! ?

if this is realized there will be no more expectations or judgement necessary 

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@Omni Because when I started following Actualized.org I was at stage Blue, and what helped me the most was relativity and stage Yellow content. I don't think Leo is even targeting Blue, he's mainly focused on Orange as I see.

The feeling of disappointment happened, and I didn't want to suppress it, so I expressed it.

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5 minutes ago, Truth Addict said:

I'm really disappointed after watching "What Is The Point Of Life?" episode. I didn't really expect to find real tangible answers in there, but unfortunately, it felt pretty much like stage Blue brainwashing.

 

Your very first statement in this post was specified at saying his most recent video was targeting blue. 

You're more than welcome to express your disappointment, there's nothing wrong with it. I'm simply attempting to help you be aware of a potential blindside.

It's easy to scapegoat, but how do you respond when you take responsibility for it?

Try not to see this as a personal attack, rather a helping hand from one ego to another. You can't see what the back of your head looks like, using a mirror can be difficult at times, but it's much easier for me to get a glance and explain it.

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7 minutes ago, Truth Addict said:

The feeling of disappointment happened, and I didn't want to suppress it, so I expressed

Don’t forget to question why this is your response. This is detrimental to personal growth my friend :) 

it’s not wrong to react this way but to know what system of beliefs have led to it is the counterintuitive approach for growth 

@Omni “taking responsibility” well said 

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God is a bearded fat guy on a cloud, that's truth and a fact! And he is the territory, no maps in the clouds!


Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you?
1 Corinthians 3:16

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@DrewNows Then I better get used to it ?

@Omni I didn't mean that. I meant that it seemed like stage Blue morality being preached to everyone, not stage Blue in particular. Please, try not to be too gentle with me, I understand your criticism and it's fine. I think I am well aware of why I felt disappointed, and that is because I place so much value on Actualized.org.

@abrakamowse Mind your tongue, infidel ?

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i think i am going to stop watching actualized.org  its too complicated for me. 

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5 minutes ago, Truth Addict said:

@abrakamowseMind your tongue, infidel ?

Lol


Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you?
1 Corinthians 3:16

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