winterknight

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3 minutes ago, winterknight said:

Yes. Dare to relax totally -- that's what it comes down to.

Your awesome! Thank you for having such patience with me.... I am getting there, but I now know what to work on again for a while. I hope the negative things you sometimes deal with here never keep you from coming back and helping people like me. You really are very much appreciated.

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A guy told me he doesn't need to meditate anymore. Is it possible to reach enlightenment and then you don't need to meditate anymore? Are meditative states possible to achieve through music and art for example?

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@brugluiz

in asking of that question, it shows you do not know what meditation is

meditation does not equal sitting down cross legged or any other way and "doing" something

meditation simply means to take a back seat to what's happening

when one is enlightened, "she/he" are in a meditative state 24/7


"When you discover Stillness in the movement, and the Unchanging within the changing, then you have found your eternal home."

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52 minutes ago, Bauer1977 said:

Your awesome! Thank you for having such patience with me.... I am getting there, but I now know what to work on again for a while. I hope the negative things you sometimes deal with here never keep you from coming back and helping people like me. You really are very much appreciated.

You're very welcome.

22 minutes ago, brugluiz said:

A guy told me he doesn't need to meditate anymore. Is it possible to reach enlightenment and then you don't need to meditate anymore? Are meditative states possible to achieve through music and art for example?

Yes, SoonHei says it correctly: the aim of meditation is to discover that as your constant nature.  That is the meaning of enlightenment. Meditation is not something separate from that.

You can have quiet-mind states through music & art, but because they will not last past the time you see that song or painting.

Educate yourself about the path & practice self-inquiry and you will understand what meditation actually means.


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46 minutes ago, Himanshu said:

@winterknight What is Art? What is the purpose of Art?

It is the purpose of art to explore those questions.

For a seeker, the creation and appreciation of art can be a powerful tool to understand one's own mind and those of others, become more honest about one's feelings and desires, and discover beauty in painful experiences -- all this helps to quiet the mind and aids self-inquiry.


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When there are no more thoughts, is there Enlightenment? What do you tell someone who has no thoughts?

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4 minutes ago, Outer said:

When there are no more thoughts, is there Enlightenment? What do you tell someone who has no thoughts?

Please relate these questions to your particular path and to the obstacles you are facing on it.


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15 minutes ago, winterknight said:

Please relate these questions to your particular path and to the obstacles you are facing on it.

So we should go autobiographical but you can't?

I'm just asking if there's no thoughts, is there Enlightenment? Because that's what I want to know for the path.

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So whats your take on sex and sexuality in general? What should  one do and what not?


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16 minutes ago, Outer said:

So we should go autobiographical but you can't?

Yes, that's correct -- if you want my answers. The problem is that you ask a lot of questions without any context. I've answered many of them in the past, but I don't see much sign of your integrating my responses.

"How long is string?" "Is it good to talk?" That's in effect the kind of question you're asking.

The questions are based on misconceptions. If you want an intellectual framework, why not start with something like a good overview text like Drik Drisya Viveka or my book

Or if you must ask these kinds of questions, relate them to your path and give me your own thinking on them first -- how you came to that question, why it would even occur to you, what your own thoughts are on it, etc.

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I'm just asking if there's no thoughts, is there Enlightenment? Because that's what I want to know for the path.

This is a question of just that type. "Thought" means many, many different things in different contexts. To the enlightened one even thought is non-thought.

Merely not having thoughts at one particular time is not enlightenment, though it may be a coma, or it might be deep sleep, or it might be nirvikalpa samadhi. If one never has any thoughts, then who is the thinker who is to be called enlightened or not -- who is the one who doesn't have thoughts? 

You are too concerned with the end goal of enlightenment and what it is "like" -- which is delaying you from actually simply looking inside and finding out what it is like for yourself.

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1 minute ago, Psychonaut said:

So whats your take on sex and sexuality in general? What should  one do and what not?

From the spiritual standpoint, the goal is the quiet mind. A quiet mind comes from being honest about one's desires and following them. If you want sex, admit it and be open about it, and try to act in a way that pursues that desire. But do so ethically -- ethics also ensure a quiet mind, by reducing both inner and external conflict.

Now that said, if what you want is the spiritual above all -- if that is what you actually feel and not just tell yourself that you want -- then you could experiment with celibacy. Sex and relationships can consume a lot of time and effort and breed emotional attachments. That's why monks traditionally didn't engage in them. That energy could be used in the spiritual search.

So if you are open to giving those things up, try it and see what happens. You can always go back later if it isn't working.


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32 minutes ago, winterknight said:

From the spiritual standpoint, the goal is the quiet mind. A quiet mind comes from being honest about one's desires and following them. If you want sex, admit it and be open about it, and try to act in a way that pursues that desire. But do so ethically -- ethics also ensure a quiet mind, by reducing both inner and external conflict.

Now that said, if what you want is the spiritual above all -- if that is what you actually feel and not just tell yourself that you want -- then you could experiment with celibacy. Sex and relationships can consume a lot of time and effort and breed emotional attachments. That's why monks traditionally didn't engage in them. That energy could be used in the spiritual search.

So if you are open to giving those things up, try it and see what happens. You can always go back later if it isn't working.

thank you. this is great!


"When you discover Stillness in the movement, and the Unchanging within the changing, then you have found your eternal home."

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13 minutes ago, winterknight said:

 If one never has any thoughts, then who is the thinker who is to be called enlightened or not -- who is the one who doesn't have thoughts? 

Your messages raise a few ideas in the mind regarding thoughts and the personality dynamic:

The direct experience of thoughtless being can allow light to shine in on the illusory natue of self concept. 

I imagine looking through a kaleidoscope that has various fragments    including memories, beliefs, sensations, feelings and emotions. The mind tries to link all of these fragments into a story and self concept of ‘me’. Who I am. What I value and need. . . Thoughts seem to be the “glue” trying to hold all the fragments into a coherent story and self image. Yet, this leads to internal conflict due to contradictions among fragments. The mind tries to hold it all together by seeking validation, avoidance, rationalization, blaming etc. Also, as the kaleidoscope turns, fragments disappear, appear, and get shuffled. Yet, the mind works to maintain a static permanent illusory image of “me”. 

The mind can get so immersed in the story that it assumes it is true. For a “beginner”, it seems anything that can shed light on the illusory nature of the story can be helpful. For example, “gaps” in the stream of thinking - like being in thoughtless awe observing the Grand Canyon. Or, thoughtless gaps of silence during meditation. These often go unnoticed by the personality. When noticed, thoughts like “whoa, that was strange. What just happened there?” may arise. Yet, these thoughtless gaps of silence are often subconsciously dismissed in favor of the security the story seems to provide. 

Yet with practice and tecnique, a mind can relax and the stream of thoughts slow, allowing for thoughtless gaps of silence to expand into periods in which awareness rests. From this stillness and peace, the relationship to thoughts “matures”. Thoughts are no longer glue trying to hold a kaleidoscope of fragments together to form an illusory image called “me”. From the place of still peace - thoughts, feelings, sensations are all arisings in the moment. Categorizing things as “thought”, “feeling”, “hearing” etc. dissolves and thought is non-thought.

As the illusory story of self dissolves, one can now view the kaleidoscope clearly. 

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With surrender of all attachments comes a field beyond all human matrix, even call it a "field" is still a matrix in human mind.
When the soul lies down in that grass,the world is too full to talk about.
Ideas, language, even the phrase "each other" doesn't make any sense.

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@winterknight Thank you, you inspire me so much.

I would like to ask you:

How to gain happiness and success even when a man is doing a regular average-wage 9-5 job without great achievements in a success and money oriented society? 

 This is a dilemma I am facing.Thank you.

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21 minutes ago, Jeff Zhang said:

@winterknight Thank you, you inspire me so much.

I would like to ask you:

How to gain happiness and success even when a man is doing a regular average-wage 9-5 job without great achievements in a success and money oriented society? 

 This is a dilemma I am facing.Thank you.

Follow the spiritual path and discover your true self. That's the source of happiness. Someone working can do it too.


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@winterknight I am noticing many addictions in my life that end up diverting me away from practicing

For example I am obsessively thinking about making music to the detriment of meditation / inquiry 

Or overeating, then dieting, followed by a depressive period due to calorie and sugar (another addiction) withdrawals

Is this best dealt with in therapy? If therapy was not available how would one navigate these distractions?

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25 minutes ago, Sashaj said:

@winterknight I am noticing many addictions in my life that end up diverting me away from practicing

For example I am obsessively thinking about making music to the detriment of meditation / inquiry 

Or overeating, then dieting, followed by a depressive period due to calorie and sugar (another addiction) withdrawals

Is this best dealt with in therapy? If therapy was not available how would one navigate these distractions?

Yes, in therapy. If that's not available then you need to get honest about your desires yourself. Admit to yourself what you actually want and feel -- not what you should want.

And how do you figure out what you actually want and feel? Notice how you feel; metaphorize it (articulate what it feels like); think of what you might want to do & notice/metaphorize how you feel given each possibility; act in various ways and metaphorize how you feel after these actions.

In this way you come closer to what you actually want, not what you "should" want or hope you want or think you should want or want to want.

Maybe you want to make music and not meditate. So make music -- be honest about it and do that! That's the way to move forward: align action and motive.

Or maybe you don't want to lose weight. If you’re going to eat junk food -- tell yourself "I want to eat junk food. This IS what I want." 

Or perhaps you both want and don't want that... admit that to yourself too -- "I want to eat junk food but I also want to look better." Then investigate what these feelings mean... metaphorize them, and really listen to what they are saying, their reasons. Imagine they are little voices inside you. They have histories, reasons for wanting what they want. 

But just hold them... realizing that "What I want is to stay in conflict right now, because I don't know what to do." And take responsibility for that at least.

There are also many other feelings you could try admitting to yourself, negative feelings you have about parents, your past, your friends, etc. -- often stuff we are ashamed about.

Again, all this is exactly why I recommend psychoanalytic therapy (not just any therapy... psychoanalytic therapy).

And expect it all to take time. No shortcuts.

But you can meditate, read scriptures, and so on to some extent while doing all this.


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@winterknight

I have questions regarding science of desire.

1) Is there some 'objective' destiny waiting for me to work things out and find out? Or is it ultimately what I just land on in a more aligned way? if that's the case, so is it the looking and honestly exploring part that is actually the important thing and not what I finally land on?

2) Is it possible to be 100% happy and frictionless by coming into complete alignment between my desires and behaviors or rather is it possible to actually align these two facets COMPLETELY? Or is it that only Enlightenment can provide a completely frictionless life?

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''Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather''

- Bill Hicks

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