Spiral Dynamics Stage Orange Examples Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

He's doubling down on it lately

 

[Rilles]

A great response to Hyper-Rational Robotic Cyborg Shen Bapiro. 

[Forestluv]

Green calling out toxic Orange

 

[Ferdi Le]

1 hour ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

 

beautiful!

[Forestluv]

Orange looking at Blue

[Raze]

This is a small youtuber I watched a long time ago, he had a very hard childhood and was always stuck in the victim mindset in his videos talking about how much he was suffering. I'm happy to see he's gotten past that and is motivated in stage orange.

[Dragon Liege]

Would Dante from the Devil May Cry series be considered stage orange? He's coolish? He's a show off and is witty with quips. Can we do fictional examples as well or does it have to be real life?

[Leo Gura]

23 minutes ago, Meta-Man said:

 

 

That's exactly how I start my day, down to the pink pajamas and heart-shaped bowl.

[Dragon Liege]

19 hours ago, Dragon Liege said:

Would Dante from the Devil May Cry series be considered stage orange? He's coolish? He's a show off and is witty with quips. Can we do fictional examples as well or does it have to be real life?

Actually just watching Leo's Stage Red video, Dante definitely has some red aspects. Not to the point of someone like Kratos, but still.

[soos_mite_ah]

The YouTube channel Meet Kevin is a great channel for learning about real estate. While I'm not a huge real estate person, there is a lot you can get from his channel including his over all personality. I would characterize him as a very healthy orange with a some green 

Here is his channel: 

https://www.youtube.com/c/MeetKevin 

And here is someone who is describing what he's like behind the scenes: 

Idk how much of it is true since you can't ever be sure with the internet but if it is all true, this guy is the epitome of healthy orange. 

[Roy]

Leo mentioned the movie "Lord of War" in recent SD Red video. Was a good movie from what I remember so I went back to watch it again. There is a scene near the end of the movie with a quote that encapsulates toxic Stage Orange perfectly. The main character Yurie and his wife Eva are arguing after she finally discovers that he sells arms for a living. As the conversation heats up Yurie shouts;

"There is NOTHING illegal about what I do!" Eva responds, "I don't care if it's legal, it's wrong!"

This represents the epitome of rationalization that an unhealthy Orange persona will create. They will cleverly look for all loop holes they can find, and bend and stretch the rules as much as possible without (hopefully) breaking them. They are aware of the exploitation and collateral damage of their actions to a degree, but as long as they benefit and are far enough removed from the chain of causation then it's A OK in their book.

"Strategic selfishness" let's call it. Is this spot on @Leo Gura?  

[Leo Gura]

@Roy Perhaps the most tragic scene in Lord of War is when Cage sacrifices his own brother in an arms deal.

[Dragon Liege]

Even though the Christian was being foolish, the Mario is real point was interesting in the Amazing Atheist video (although they contradicted it later). I think it was Leo's intelligence video he talked about Mario 64 and the way it was real. Not physically, but it's a game that exists and the 3d models and physics exist inside it. I'm wondering if that's what the person met. I've had the immaturity of the Christian and later the Amazing Atheist in that video before watching actualized.org. I can empathize with both even though they're both naive.

Armored Skeptic is very stage orange rational too.

[Evil Raccoon]

Sex, drugs and Rock'n'Roll at its finest! There you go.

 

[Carl-Richard]

80s proto-rap rock song criticizing religious Blue and American expansionism from worldcentric high-Orange:

"Whoever we are
Wherever we're from
We shoulda noticed by now
Our behavior is dumb
And if our chances
Expect to improve
It's gonna take a lot more
Than tryin' to remove
The other race
Or the other whatever
From the face
Of the planet altogether"

[Dragon Liege]

I'd say T Series is stage orange.

Casey Neistat I think is stage orange from what I know of him.

Stage Orange Advertising.

Spyro 3 had a bunch of shit stuffed into it. I remember Leo talking about blowing out your palette. I think it got really close to using the entire disc storage.

[Leo Gura]

13 hours ago, Dragon Liege said:

 

 

Gross

[Leo Gura]

Anyone mention Milton Freedman yet?

 

 

[Revolutionary Think]

@Leo Gura I heard he's a PIMP for neoliberalism.

 

[Zigzag Idiot]

                                      The enneatypes it stage Orange

Type One: The Judge/The Auditor. At the Orange Level, Type One, the Judge,
pursues self-perfection. Type One believes that his way is the right way; he
applies high standards of integrity and attention to detail to succeed through
continual self-improvement. Ones at this level are concerned with rules,
codification, how things are being allotted, and who is right and who is wrong.
The Auditor audits himself more than anyone else (Ooten, Unpublished;
Ooten, 2010).

Type Two: The Provider/The Executive Assistant. Indispensability in
organizations as the Executive Assistant, whether business, familial or social, is
the key means of maintaining and achieving success for Type Two, the Executive
Assistant at the Orange level. Type Two at this level often appears as the “power
behind the throne”, giving to those in power as a means to attain power and
material success for self. Executive Assistants often put themselves into the
position of “gatekeeper” to the highest executive, controlling who has access to
what and whom. The Provider wants his giving to be recognized, appreciated
and rewarded (Ooten, Unpublished; Ooten, 2010).

Type Three: The Doer/The CEO. Type Three, the Doer, develops and maintains
a pristine image of competency and efficiency in the climb to the top. Operating
as the CEO role in the Orange level, achievement is more important than
anything else. The chameleon-like abilities of Type Three are applied to creating
a waterproof image that instills trust and confidence in those with whom they
relate. At the Orange level, the CEO wants others to think that she knows what
she is doing, and that she will lead others where they want to go. The sky is
the limit, the mountaintop is the requirement, and failure is not an option.
Every person and every event is an opportunity to achieve success (Ooten,

Type Four: The Idealist/The Manipulator. Envy drives competition and
an emphasis on having material possessions for Type Four, the Idealist, who
operates at the Orange level as the Manipulator. Individualism emphasizes the
uniqueness and elitism of Type Four, who manipulates the system for what is
“deserved.” Entitlement is the rationalization for doing whatever he wants, in
the quest to quench the thirst of envy and desire. Image is applied to “dressing
for success” or creating the “look.” Presentation of self and the surrounding
environment is highly emphasized to create a feeling of material luxury and
wealth (Ooten, Unpublished; Ooten, 2010).

Type Five: The Sage/The Investigator. Type Five, the Sage, works at the Orange
level as the Investigator, containing and preserving energy to direct it into
seeking rational answers and best results. Intellectual learning, analyzing, and
thinking drive the pursuit of knowledge for scientific and personal gain. Deep
level, niche knowledge and research are applied to create material wealth and/or
gains. Rationality is elevated as the best philosophic and scientific approach
to life. Type Five at the Orange level attempts to be devoid of feelings, which
cannot be quantified and qualitatively measured and lives from a state of superrationality
(Ooten, Unpublished; Ooten, 2010).

Type Six: The Questioner/The Frenetic. The independent mindset at the
Orange level reduces the ability to trust in an outside authority and Type Six,
The Questioner, must look inward for authority. Yet, Type Six still questions and
doubts her inner authority. Questioning the inner authority, combined with
needing external scientific proof, leads Type Six to become the Frenetic. Faith
in an external authority is mistrusted. There is also a drive for material security,
which can be procured only through one’s own actions. This drive can create
courageous action through risk taking to seek ways to advance, forcing through
fears and questions (Ooten, Unpublished; Ooten, 2010).

Type Seven: The Adventurer/The Innovator. At this level, Type Seven, the
Adventurer, sees the world as full of opportunity. As the Innovator, he or she is
resourceful, using patterns of possibility-seeking and interconnecting ideas to
envision and create, charming others to get for self. Type Seven has an inferior/
superior dichotomy, and to avoid the painful feelings of inferiority, will “level the
playing field” with authority in his mind. This leads to an indirect challenge of
authority, which is also used to “climb the ladder” (Ooten, Unpublished; Ooten,
2010).

Type Eight: The Defender/The Boss. Type Eight, the Defender, shows up as
the Boss at the Orange level, motivated by materialism and avoiding the fear of
being controlled at all costs. At this level, the Boss works to ensure that he or she
maintains positions of authority, imposing his own version of truth on situations
and others. Intensity and lust are channeled into empire building. The Boss can
only follow a very strong leader, and if one is not present, will quickly take over
the group consciously or unconsciously. Type Eight at the Orange level believes
that being an island is a protection from vulnerability (Ooten, Unpublished;
Ooten, 2010).

Type Nine: The Moderator/The Consistent Self. Type Nine, the Moderator, will
go along with others to attain the fulfillment of her own desires—it is beneficial
to go along with the group when the group is going in the same direction. The
Consistent Self operates at a slow, steady, plodding, consistent pace of progress
for material gain and advancement. Passive aggressiveness aids in maintaining
her autonomy to reach her own goals when her goals are different from the
group, partner, family or workplace. (Ooten, Unpublished; Ooten, 2010).

Taken from: http://www.consciousdynamicsllc.com/home/levels_of_consciousness.html

Edited August 6, 2020 by Zigzag Idiot
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