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Im just a month in and at the first kriya initiation lesson - kriya pranayama.
Im just wondering if it might be ok for me to skip the Talaba kriya practice, the one where you stretch the tongue and instead do it during the day, like when I take a walk.... It seems it´s purpose is to make you move the tongue better for future lessons so Im thinking it would be ok. The reason I want to skip it is that it gets me out of the medative state.
Also, I stretch until I feel a slight pain, is that how you should do it?

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@luckieluuke I do it earlier before my routine and it seems to work fine. That is how you should do it, eventually it wont hurt to stretch it all the way

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"Your task is to practice physical relaxation, allowing yourself to feel pleasure while breathing. This may bring up anxiety, “unacceptable” feelings or impulses. The key is to relax and inhale slowly and steadily, gently stretching the diaphragm and rib cage. Then let go as you exhale, without pushing or holding back. If you experience anxiety, try to spread the energy and sensation around the body. Or switch to slow breathing in the belly."

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How crucial is to do "tongue" exercises and mudras ? It is the thing that repels me very much


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Hey guys. I'm new to this topic and I'm very interested in starting Kriya to boost my spiritual practices (very poor results with meditation).

In my city there are no teacher of Kriya, so is it ok to just study on the book?

What is the best book in your experiences?

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2 hours ago, Jordan94 said:

@billiesimon check ennio nimis book it's free on PDF and great for practice

http://www.kriyayogainfo.net/Eng_Downloads1.html

First part is his history kind of (no need to read if you're not interested)

Second part is the description of the techniques

Third part is how you should go about it and a good practice routine

I'm checking it out!

What is the best one, Leo's reccommendation, or this one?

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On 2/18/2019 at 2:41 AM, luckieluuke said:

It seems it´s purpose is to make you move the tongue better for future lessons so Im thinking it would be ok. The reason I want to skip it is that it gets me out of the medative state.

The tongue exercise Talabya is not done during meditation. So there should be no issue about it taking you out of the meditative state.

Talabya is a preparation for Khechari Mudra. But Khechari is not required for First Kriya (which is what most kriyabans will do for years anyway). Lahiri said everything is in the first Kriya.

There are good videos on YouTube about how to do it. Just search for Talabya Kriya.

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19 hours ago, Hello from Russia said:

How crucial is to do "tongue" exercises and mudras ? It is the thing that repels me very much

The tongue exercise is just to stretch the bottom of the tongue, to prepare for Khechari which is part of the advanced Kriyas.

Some Kriya systems do not teach the tongue exercise, at least not to newbies.

The Mahamudra is a simple body stretch, that's all, it should feel good to do.

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29 minutes ago, kerk said:

The tongue exercise is just to stretch the bottom of the tongue, to prepare for Khechari which is part of the advanced Kriyas.

Some Kriya systems do not teach the tongue exercise, at least not to newbies.

The Mahamudra is a simple body stretch, that's all, it should feel good to do.

Yeah. This Kechari thing is what triggers me. Is it important to be successful at kriya? I like breathing stuff and pranayamas


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Maha Mudra is not simply a body stretch. At least not in the Kriya Yoga realm. It is one of the cornerstones of the practice.  I am not sure where you got this idea.

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I have nothing against maha mudra, I was speaking mainly about kechari mudra or "tongue" mudra so to speak


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5 hours ago, Hello from Russia said:

Yeah. This Kechari thing is what triggers me. Is it important to be successful at kriya? I like breathing stuff and pranayamas

In some Kriya lineages, the Second Kriya or Second Initiation is only taught if the person can do Khechari. I'm not sure if that's true of all of them now. Is it important to be successful at Kriya? Look to your guru's advice on that.

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3 hours ago, pointessa said:

Maha Mudra is not simply a body stretch. At least not in the Kriya Yoga realm. It is one of the cornerstones of the practice.  I am not sure where you got this idea.

It is easy to do (with Kriya breath) and is a cornerstone of the practice. My point is not to trivialize it but simply to say that it should not be hard to do and it should feel good.

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Hey guys, just wanted to drop some inspiration in here.

I visited this Kriya Yoga "Ashram" place earlier in 2018, and found this super inspirational wall..

It was really a profound experience to see this "Ashram"-kinda place, and can only encourage you guys to visit that place one day, if you got time!
It's located in Benares / Varanasi in India, link to their website: https://www.kriyayogalahiri.com (I am not affiliated or anything with their website or "organization")

 

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"Satyalok, Varanasi, August 15th 1995.."

"Without laying the foundation of a righteous life, Kriya becomes an escape and, therefore, has no value whatsoever. A righteous life is not merely the following of social morality it is indeed the freedom from envy, greed and the search for power. Without knowing the activities of the self, Kriya becomes a sensuous excitement and therefore of very little significance. Mind in Kriya is limitless, not only in its capacity to think and to act efficiently, but also in its sense of living in a vast space where one is a part of every thing. In the " Parabastha of Kriya ", a peculiar thing takes place which no drug or self-hypnosis can bring about. The mind enters into itself penetrating even more deeply and then depth & height lose their meaning. Every form of measurement utterly ceases. In this state there is complete peace, not merely contentment which comes about through gratification. Kriya is a movement from innocence to innocence. In the explosion of Kriya, the eyes are made innocent and love is then a benediction. Kriya opens the door to the incalculable, to the measureless. Kriya brings about the religious mind — the deep religion that is untouched by the Church, the temple and the mosque. Kriya is not an escape from the world but rather the comprehension of the world and its ways. Kriya de-conditions and thus frees you from your past Karma."

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15 hours ago, luckieluuke said:

@korbes wow thanks for sharing. Am actually planning a trip to India so will try to check it out!

Awesome! When do you plan on going?
They have tons of Vipassana courses in India btw!

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@korbes I know, unfortunately Ill only be there for like 3 weeks so Im sticking to the vipassana course here in my country. Im going next winter....Do you have any tips? :)

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3 hours ago, luckieluuke said:

@korbes I know, unfortunately Ill only be there for like 3 weeks so Im sticking to the vipassana course here in my country. Im going next winter....Do you have any tips? :)

Yeah okay I see, I highly recommend you check out Varanasi, one of the most spiritual places in India :) 

Also, have tons of patience when you're there, it can be frustrating, and there's soo many people lol, it just surpassed China in population!

You'll definetely get a sensory overload.

Also, if you're on a budget, try to avoid taxis they'll rip you off, stick to train and busses. :D

When I came home after 2 months there, I was like.. I'm never ever going back to India again, most stressful place I've ever been to, but now I actually miss it - It's very common that people have a love/hate relationship with India :P

 

Sorry for getting a bit off-topic mods..

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