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When I lived in Mexico, I went to a local medicine man to get treatment for anxiety.  I asked him about Ayahausca.  He then asked me If I had ever taken psychedelics before, and I said no.  He then said that Ayahausca lasts about 5 to 6 hours, but he had a medicine called “sapito” which lasts for about 30 minutes, and if I have never had experience with psychedelics, it might be better for a first experience.  He said the “sapito” has masculine energy and gets right to the point, whereas Ayahuasca is feminine and takes longer.

Sapito is 5-MEO-DMT.   In Mexico, it is called “sapito” or “sapo”.   The word “sapo” means “toad” in Spanish.  “Sapito” is a diminutive form which would roughly be translated as “toady” or “little toad”.

He then put the sapito in a glass pipe and told me that as soon as he lights it to inhale and count to three.    I inhaled and almost immediately fell back into a deep trance.

I felt that I was in a void and I had no thoughts.  My mind was complete silence.  I felt I was dying.    

I started to move towards a light.  When I approach the light, I flipped into another dimension.  I was astonished and gasped  “this is reality, and the everyday life I have been leading is bullshit, it is all an illusion”.  I felt something like a presence of God.

I then felt myself descending back into my body.  I could actually feel the ego with its thoughts coming back as I descended into the body.  When I was in my body, I felt an overwhelming intensity of emotions.  It was like every emotion I had ever repressed over the years came up at once.  I released them by my entire body violently shaking.  

Sapito didn’t change any of my long term negative habits or negative emotions.  However, it altered my basic beliefs about reality and set me on a spiritual path.  I am no longer a materialist.  

This was my first psychedelic experience.  Since then I have recently gone through an Ayahuasca ceremony.  For me, madre maestra Ayahuasca was much more useful and is now my medicine of choice.   The differences: Sapito lasts 30 min, Ayahauscua lasts about 6 hours.   During the 6 hours, Ayahuasca downloaded information useful to my life.  Saptio goes for the head.  Ayahuasca went to the heart center.  Ayahuasca worked to release deep pain and energy blocks in my body.  Ayahuasca was conducted with a ceremony and there was a group of people.   I found an empathetic connection to the other people in the group under the medicine which aided inner healing.   The ceremony creates a safe circle for sacred healing.
 

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@Jodistrict , thank you for this.

Your comparison between 5Meo and Aya is very insightful, particularly how Aya goes for the heart while 5Meo is cerebral. So both are necessary and have their own place.

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Hello everyone, please help me identify my state under magic shrooms trip.

That how it was: me and my friends (3 of us and small bag of magic)  went camping with other people who roughly believe in alcohol intoxication (if you know what I meant) But we knew, despite our controversial point of view with those people, this is gonna work. So, the other day we consumed little magic and started having wonderful chatting with people who was consuming alcohol, funny thing that 3 of us set tents aside of main group, so we were kind of separate camp, but by the end of the evening the rest of the group (about 20 people) gathered around our small camp fire, though they had their own huge camp fire with lots of food, tables, alcohol (To make this clear, we are not this type of persons who can attract people by anything in a regular time at all). I believe that everyone who passed our separate camp by, was attracted by compassion, acceptance, sincere listening summoned in us by "magic".

First it happen when I suddenly decided to meditate near campfire between those people who were chatting in small groups, trying to feel all of their emotions that they were exposing. After half of the minute the greatest joy/happiness (I'm not sure if these are the right words for this feeling) started filling my head so my face got the widest smile I ever had and tears start running, so I had to hide my face in palms so no one bother me with questions what is happening with me. And then I had giant explode in my head, it was kind of orgasm, but not the one you have with sex, more like psychological, along with strongest hallucinations I ever had. It was short, maybe less then a minute, so I just came back to my friends and continued conversation when it was over. No one even admit that. I had 1 more "orgasm" later, same strength, but the most significant was the last one: closer to noon time I left our campfire taking little walk to a river, I sat down the rock and started meditating but with eyes open, now imagine - fool moon gives enough light to see everything, calm wide river, and black stripe of pine forest on other bank below the shining moon. It came up immediately after I focused on sounds of nature and the whole picture, the world, the whole existence started breaking on small particles looked like snowflakes that begun unfold infinitely, then I've got one more psychological orgasm along with strong understanding that the "God" is in every particle of our existence (I'm atheist by the way) and that I thought about "God" too literally before, so this is not a guy on the sky with white beard watching us, but just a different, unknown matter/instance/substance, I don't know. It was so powerful! I'll remember it my whole life.

Please help me to understand what is that, how it called, what does it meant?

Each of us took less then a 2 gram of shrooms, after lunch (this was a big mistake) and I smoked small joint after 2 hours.

Thanks to everyone, peace!

Sorry for my language, I'm not from this country.

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I had my second ayahuasca journey.  On the day of the ceremony, I fasted.  It took about 1 hour for the journey to begin.  I could feel my heart beating fast and strong.  I then began to feel a weakness like I was going to faint, and it was really unpleasant.  Then Mother Ayahuasca started to envelop me with a fog and she was pulling me into another dimension.  Because of what I was experiencing, I panicked and opened my eyes, fearing that I would be trapped in suffering that I couldn't escape from.  I was able to pull back from an experience I wasn’t ready for.  When I pulled back, I was thrust into a void of blackness where I experienced the pain of loneliness and disconnection from the divine.   I think that fact I didn’t eat could have lowered my glucose and caused the fainting.   

The journey continued in waves.  In one of the peaks, I started hearing audible voices speaking gibberish, first 1, then 10, then it seemed like a thousand voices at once.  I put my hands over my ears to try to stop the noise.  Then I realized that the voices I was hearing were my thoughts.  The medicine was showing me that my mind was full of noise, which gets in the way of solving my problems. 

I feel that I am started to learn the skills of navigating a journey.  It is important to surrender to the process, and when suffering comes up, remind oneself that it is temporary.  This comes from developing a personal relationship of trust with your plant teacher.  Also, it is important to not analyze while on the journey because the analytical mind can create misleading thoughts that interferes with the journey.  Mother Ayahausca is a teacher and downloads the information that we need to know.

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I completed my third Ayahuasca journey.  I am becoming more skillful at navigating the altered state.  The physical effects are different for every person, but for me, when the medicine initially begins to take effect, my heart beats fast and my body temperature rises.  If I can sit through this calmly, I enter the altered state.  My first two journeys were learning to sit with the pain.  They were purgative, releasing blocked energy and pain from my body.  In this journey, I felt feelings of love and being loved.  The journey started with a clearly audible voice crying in my heart.  It was as real as any external sound.  I was downloaded the teaching that life can become simple if I learn to forgive.  I felt that “I am awake” and didn’t want to lose this state.   The music that was being played at this moment had the phrase:  “We are born human to experience our infinity”.  I realized what a waste of a human life it is for people to fight each other to defend their different reality tunnels.  The shaman said that we need to realize these visions with homework so that we can make the state we experienced permanent.    

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On 9/4/2020 at 8:39 PM, Jodistrict said:

I realized what a waste of a human life it is for people to fight each other to defend their different reality tunnels.

I felt that.

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"Intellectual growth should commence at birth and cease only at death." - Albert Einstein

 

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