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[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, meta_male said:

@Leo Gura As someone who grew up in a cult, I don't think this helps your case. I understand you want respectful discussion but banning the label is going to make people who are undecided more suspicious..

I don't care. Such people cannot be reasoned with anyway. They are not who I work for.

1 hour ago, Monster Energy said:

Why does it matter if people call you a cult leader or not?

If I wasn't interacting with it, it wouldn't much matter. But I am not interested in interacting with intelligence so low.

At the end of the day I have to be here consuming garbage that causes me to lose IQ points just reading it.

You don't get to go to MIT and accuse them of being a cult. They will just kick you out. And rightly so.

This idea that I am supposed to tolerate such behavior is itself wrong. No serious person would tolerate such accusations. It is like calling your profressor a rapist and then expecting him to still speak to you. No. That's not how life works.

You think Actualized.org is a cult? Great! Then I have nothing more to teach you. We have nothing further to discuss.

Anyone who thinks Actualized.org is a cult has no clue what I teach and will never grasp what I teach.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Elliott]

As I said in the other thread I think the issue was their approach, it was abusive toward Leo and others, unnecessarily. 

[Leo Gura]

Please note that it is okay if your views differ from mine on issues. I am not looking for only yes-men here.

But this cult stuff is my red line.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Wilhelm44]

28 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Please note that it is okay if your views differ from my on issues. I am not looking for only yes-men here.

How come you didn't just address their concerns directly at the time ?

1) Claiming to be the most conscious being on the planet

2) Making definitive claims about the awakening of others. (without saying that you could be wrong)

(There was a point nr 3, but I don't remember the details,

Found it: I'm quoting Zurew here:

3) If you add to that that he wont impose a false dichotomy on people who disagree with him on things he cares about (meaning giving room for people to disagree with him on things without them having to be self-deceived or dumb or not understanding etc) ,then that would significantly lower down things for me and that would be sufficient for me.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Wilhelm44

[Sincerity]

@Leo Gura Honestly I think it’d be best if you just cleared up the air about the alien consciousness recording. „I was wrong, I don’t think now it’s possible” or „I still believe it’s possible”. Whatever. For the sake of transparency.

Clarifying this would clear up confusion.

Edited 39 minutes ago by Sincerity

[Lyubov]

This place is not a cult because it’s just a bunch of people chatting on a message board. We aren’t even paying anything to be here and it’s not face to face.

It’s the reason why I think those retreats are a bad idea. It creates opportunities for Conor Murphy type people to come round and cult accusations to get thrown around. 

Edited 37 minutes ago by Lyubov

[Novac08]

Wasn’t there a video where Leo discussed how all of society was a cult. Perhaps that term has been used a bit too loosely.

Edited 34 minutes ago by Novac08
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[Miguel1]

35 minutes ago, Sincerity said:

@Leo Gura Honestly I think it’d be best if you just cleared up the air about the alien consciousness recording. „I was wrong, I don’t think now it’s possible” or „I still believe it’s possible”. Whatever. For the sake of transparency.

People who do listen to you, listen to you - and it’s double edged, in that they take under consideration both the pure (true) and the unpure (wrong) from you. So if you think now that what you said then was unpure (wrong), clarifying it heals the teachings and clears up confusion.

I agree with you, clearing that up would be good.

At the same time, I am with Leo. Enough is enough. There is a big difference between disagreeing and being disrespectful.

Anyone who has ever lead a team / community before, knows that you as a leader have to put a stop to disrespect, otherwise everything just goes to shit.

So, not only should Leo put a stop to the disrespect for himself, but also to the overall wellbeing of the community.

Edited 33 minutes ago by Miguel1

[Hayato]

Your forum your rules.