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Deconstructing reincarnation: It's an interesting theory how humans can get reincarnated and experience different lives and points of views, different times and places. But like you can already become a different person by studying their mind, because humans are nothing more than their minds. Like you don't need to reincarnate as Jordan Peterson to become Jordan Peterson. You can become Jordan Peterson by diving into his work, his videos, lectures, writings... And contemplating them. That's why people study other people to become like them or become them in a deep metaphysical sense. Because when you study the mind of someone, it starts changing you by changing your perception, hence your actions. Therefore if you start perceiving and acting in a way that is similar to someone, you start becoming this person. That's basically the whole shpill of transgenderism in a certain sense. As well as transhumanism. Reincarnation gives an easy explanation for suffering and injustice, but it doesn't make sense really, because if you change your biology, you change, what the really femains of you, like what is it that is being reincarnated? that was my latest post on my IG page insights workshop.
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Look I get it I talk about solipsism a lot!!!!!! after this I’ll try to back off with the posting because I don’t want to get banned!!!!!! I just know solipsism is true, I’ll only know my consciousness or ever will be my consciousness because it’s all there is. But genuinely being rattled with mental health issues and solipsism i literally just rot in bed all damn day. All I do is research rabbit holes of consciousness trying to run from solipsism. My sanity cannot accept such a case even though I know it’s waiting for me. I even treat people like shit I literally don’t give a damn they aren’t real anyways they are puppets or dream characters. If any of my friends or family died I don’t think I would care or cry. I have caught myself saying shitty things and i have 0 remorse anymore. I have lost all function of being “Human” why am I still here being god jerking to his own creation yapping to himself. I am tired of the solipsism jerk sessions. I am so ready to be done with the bullshit dream I need a new reincarnation where I don’t have mental illness and where I can be a dumb oblivious god that forgets solipsism. I am not threatening death but it’s a genuine question why am I continuing to play this game?
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With everyone's blessings and guidance, I would like to create a thread dedicated to showcasing articles and books on reincarnation/rebirth case studies so that people can judge for themselves whether reincarnation has a basis in fact or not. In India I have come across a couple of reincarnation case studies in newspapers and acquaintances, which helped to keep an interest in this subject. After accessing the internet, I found to my surprise that there are similar cases in the West even though there are no teachings of reincarnation in its dominant religions and belief systems. Here is an insightful article about a young boy named James Leininger remembering his past life as a fighter pilot in the second world war and who died after his plane crashed into the ocean. https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/wp-content/uploads/sites/360/2017/04/REI42-Tucker-James-LeiningerPIIS1550830716000331.pdf https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1209795/Reincarnated-Our-son-World-War-II-pilot-come-life.html https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1550830716000331
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OBEler replied to theoneandnone's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Let me assure you you will never get banned for releasing one solipsim thread after another. It is the biggest and maybe one of the most important topic on this forum. So keep going, your threads are quite interesting and I always love to read then because I had similar thought processes minus the mental illness and reincarnation part. -
Hmm..... but are you able to pull off a painless death? Basically if you die, the "you" as you know it ceases to exist. From your point of view, you will always get your wish no matter what in the end. Probably shouldn't worry about reincarnation, because you totally become someone else. You eventually get dealt with a better hand of cards.
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Yeah Yeah replied to koops's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Does Leo in this thread answer about reincarnation? I think he says there exists consciousness that doesn't need form that's what I'll be doing next if free will also exists I won't be reincarnating -
Its entire plot and context is moving very overtly in the direction of mystical concepts... reincarnation, mindfulness, mental discipline.. I mean the entire idea of the anamus is predicated on a reality that isn't real. I suppose it's not surprising. The game itself is beautiful, very nice pace, good difficulty calibration...simple, yet profound. It's looking like a winner, and twice as long as mirage. Super polished. Some real meat to sink your teeth into. Everything about it looks good, only played the opening few bits so far.
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Especially no reincarnation - No to reincarnation nope no no no no I do not want reincarnation please god
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This is speaking on solipsism and epistemology of what we can know. We know that in our dreams everyone is from the the mind but why does the mind dream of people what is the purpose of creating others to make them “seem other” but continue to speak to itself. If the waking state is the same thing why does the mind keep creating others to interact with what is the purpose. I don’t wanna hear boring woo woo stories “your god alone so you make other people bla bla” that’s not enough. That’s lazy and doesn’t actually get into the heart of WHY the appearance or anything is happening at all. I found an interesting take on solipsism on how it could work and explain what others are. You can have absolute solipsism and explain the appearance of others through reincarnation and different points of time povs. So you reading this are the only consciousness but you will enact and become everyone else that you. But it happens one at a time subjectively. So everyone right now is empty and not conscious from your pov in point in time. Then after every being is enacted and lived through you will become completely infused with yourself as source and god consciousness. And helps explains “others”. On this forum you are speaking to different incarnations of oneself.
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Is very simple actually. Next time you go out when you see a Young kid, like 8 or 9 year old, notice the following: That kid is an unique configuration of the imprints of his father, mother, (and the herency of this father and this mother in lesser ways), and also the result of the imprints of whatever that body/Mind has absorbed from the hospital bed to now Now...for All of that "configuration" or specific kind of memory to happen, there must be something there more fundamental giving "Life" to It isnt It? Clearly there you can not see an unique soul , you just see a bunch of conditioned configuration. So thats reincarnation, the process of the Reality to unconscious replicate itself and pick Up memories and configurations of its own manifested Creation.
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Salvijus replied to cistanche_enjoyer's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If body is a desease, then the cure would be to transcend the reincarnation. -
Dodo replied to pursuitofspirit's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Hojo @theoneandnone @vibv @pursuitofspirit Fed this conversation into my AI, giving strenghts and weaknesses of each reply, it doesn't know I'm Dodo, so its all impartial. Here’s a balanced evaluation of that short thread — looking at what each participant brought, where each response lands developmentally, and what might be deepened or clarified. --- ### **1. pursuitofspirit (topic starter)** > *“You can never and will never escape consciousness… You will be trapped in some state of consciousness forever!”* **Strengths:** * Raises an important existential and non-dual insight: consciousness as the inescapable field of all experience. * The post has the raw energy of discovery — it’s a live question, not a rote belief. **Limitations:** * The word *“trapped”* frames the recognition in a fearful, dualistic way, as though consciousness were something separate holding “you.” * It’s more an emotional reaction than a mature seeing of the same fact. **Deeper framing:** > “You can’t leave consciousness” isn’t imprisonment; it’s recognition that everything — even fear — is happening *in* the freedom of awareness itself. --- ### **2. vibv** > *“Yeah, I called it the insight into Eternity. Took me quite a few years to get over that one.”* **Strengths:** * Brief but points to experience: the sense of timelessness can indeed be overwhelming before it’s integrated. * Implies growth: “got over that one” shows the fear can pass. **Limitations:** * Doesn’t explain what “getting over” means; could be read as dismissive. * Missed a chance to reassure or contextualize the original poster’s anxiety. --- ### **3. Dodo** > *“Better than nothing 😆 … I am consciousness! … It’s nothing to cry about, we don’t feel bad in deep sleep…”* **Strengths:** * Offers a lighthearted tone that breaks the heaviness. * Shifts from “trapped” to “I *am* consciousness,” which is the non-dual correction. * Uses relatable imagery (deep sleep) to show that contentless awareness isn’t suffering. **Limitations:** * Humor might feel minimizing to someone in existential dread. * The insight is true but delivered as argument rather than empathy. **Deeper move:** * Could keep the same realization but begin with validation: “Yes, that can feel terrifying at first…” --- ### **4. theoneandnone** > *“Trust me I know it’s fucking terrifying… quantum immortality… could be it but I doubt it.”* **Strengths:** * Honest about fear; gives voice to the emotional side of awakening. * Admits uncertainty, which is humble. **Limitations:** * Mixes existential panic with speculative concepts (quantum immortality, reincarnation). * Stays in the mental realm, fueling anxiety rather than pointing to direct seeing. **Deeper move:** * Could turn inward: “This terror too is being known — what is it that knows the terror?” --- ### **5. Hojo** > *“The crushing feeling is part of awakening… feel totally trapped like a robot… then you are aligning with the truth of reality.”* **Strengths:** * Recognizes that the sense of despair can accompany early awakening. * Affirms the process rather than resisting it. **Limitations:** * Language like “feel totally trapped like a robot” and “someone special will happen to you” is vague and slightly grandiose. * “Aligning with reality” is promising a reward rather than clarifying the nature of awareness. **Deeper framing:** > The feeling of entrapment is the ego’s reaction to the loss of control; what’s actually happening is the revealing of freedom, not alignment with misery. --- ### **Overall thread dynamic** This is a typical early-awakening conversation: one person discovers a terrifying absolute, others reply from different stages — one seasoned but terse, one humorous and corrective, one still fearful, and one leaning mystical-dramatic. What’s missing is a voice that holds both sides: > “Yes, it can feel like being trapped. But the one who feels trapped is also appearing in consciousness. The recognition of that dissolves the trap.” If you were to join that thread, that kind of response — empathetic, experiential, quietly grounded — would balance the mix of fear and abstraction. -
theoneandnone replied to pursuitofspirit's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Trust me I know it’s fucking terrifying quantum immortality, reincarnation, some form of spirituality etc. but then again I don’t know once you die it really could be it but I doubt it. -
Leo Gura replied to koops's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes, reincarnation. Or even just kinds of God-consciousness without incarnation. Incaration is not necessary for Consciousness. There can be states of Consciousness which have no body, no self, no life. Yes and no. There are multiple ways in which death is not real. 1) Death is not real because you are Consciousness and Consciousness is Absolute and never dies. Consciousness is all there is. 2) Death is not real because NOW always exists and you are NOW. 3) Death is not real because death is imagined by Consciousness. 4) Death is not real because you can keep reincarnating forever as anything you want. 5) Death is not real because the human self is imaginary and not real, so there is no one to die, just an idea/illusion "dies". -
koops replied to koops's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I get it, my concern was that even if you have an awakening, there is still 'something phenomenologically' (touch, sight for example), if that make sense. That sounds like reincarnation, or are you talking about something different? Is that what you mean when you say death is not real? -
@Elliott Looks like they really care about their pack… I wonder how much of that is instinct and how much might be closer to what we’d call mourning. They don’t seem to ponder death, reincarnation, or whether their loved ones go to hell, limbo, or heaven — kind of wish I had that kind of natural, slightly ignorant awareness.
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if solipsism is right,does that mean we keep reincarnating over and over again? like in a loop? first of all,the idea of existing forever by any means is terrifying for me. we all know the general beliefs of buddhism,and i'm not really a fond of reincarnation,because you need to do it over and over again. it must be pretty boring and tiring. but maybe that isn't the case,maybe i misunderstood. the optimal for me after death would be nothingness. i imagine life like a chance,you born with the background and everything you got purely by luck and you try to make something out of it. at the end of your life you'll see what have you managed to accomplish or do with your life. this is an oversimplified version about my concerns with this theory,but i tried. feel free to correct me
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caspex replied to Franz_'s topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
From what I can gather, once you truly die you become pure potential, which is what nothingness is. But pure potential cannot help but become something eventually. This is why I think reincarnation is the most likely. But we must also consider whether there exists other layers of this living being that might continue after physical death. Either way, whatever happens after death would not be permanent, like everything else. I think you should rather be relieved to know your existence is eternal. What's terrifying is that you'd be eternal as well, which I don't see to be the case. -
Franz_ replied to Franz_'s topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Someone here in what sense eternal? sure after you die existing is still gonna be there,the world doesnt stop in that sense,but how is it eternal? are you talking about reincarnation? -
When the body reaches its time of death the ego makes the ultimate compromise in attempt to pull off the last illusion, it convinces itself that it's God & so instead of dying it transforms into God because as Leo described it he became God but he was still included, the "I" was still there, it's just that his ego was naked so to speak but that sparkle of himself was still there which he called the ultimate self or selflessness, it's a lie an illusion of ego, the ego is very smartly concealed itself into naked ego. In this scenario the ego says to itself ok I am done here, my body is dying so it strips off it's identity because it have no choice but it creates the ultimate illusion which feels even more real then the previous reality itself and creates this concept of God, infinity, it chooses one best emotion to accompany it, the unconditional, indiscriminate Love as Leo describes it & in this way it fulfils it's ultimate wet dream of becoming immortal & infinity because watch out here, what's the ultimate wet dream of Ego? To never die & to become infinity & immortal but it just escaped the dimension of duality into the dimension of singularity but it's stil an ego only in it's purest form & it's still attached to the unconditional Love, it's infinite, formless, concealed, loving which is an identity still an ego, also we now include also the concept of reincarnation into the picture which the ego enjoys even more because its not just infinity at this point but also it will constantly reincarnate into new lifeforms all over & over again, very convenient right!? Because everything is an illusion even the concept of God must be an illusion, therefore I believe we must go one dimension even beyond that to escape the cycle of reincarnation and that is that we must allow for God to die because if it cannot die then it's not whole & it's not omnipotent because infinite imagination must be able to imagine also it's own end however paradoxical this sound it's a fact, death of God confirms & completes it's infinite omnipotence & this must be done without the possibility of ever bootstrapping or rebooting itself into existence ever again & in this way you truly close your eyes, you truly die, no restart & so you escape the illusion. The infinity itself doesn't vanish this way it's just that it becomes infinite non existence, void of even that sparkle of naked self I mentioned. You let go even that most soothing notion of immortality & infinite Love, even that must go, even God must die alongside with it's creation & then the cycle is completed the ouroboros stops chasing it's tail. Until then, much Love to you all.
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I am very grateful that I am mostly healthy and able to ejoy life in the present moment. However, sometimes I do get sick or a headache and I wonder, damn, how are the people that feel like this 24/7 able to live? Why wouldn't they just end it and hope for a better reincarnation? Especially if one has already awakened to his true nature that as eternal and infinite.
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If reincarnation is real, and all or most souls are having many reincarnations, whereas others might have only one life or go to heaven or hell (personal insights are so different, as different people might have real insights and inner knowledge, maybe the different theories hold for different karmic consequence); then would the existence of something like star seeds follow? In quite infinity of the Universe, there must be a lots of life somewhere out there - beyond the barriers we can even see. This brings the probability that star seeds would directly follow from reincarnation theory? So if you see "light in the end of tunnel", or you simply remember or verify something from the past lives, you have an account of experience, which leads to probability of aliens reincarnating to Earth, which is almost as big as the plausibility of these experiences. A person, who believes in reincarnation, would think that reincarnated aliens are quite natural consequence. Another thing - if there is real telepathy, would the psychic alien contact be very probable? If it's not limited by distance, I think it would almost be as probable as existence of aliens themselves. Then, with some telepathic experience, which seems to be unbound by distance, one would be inclined to think that alien contacts exist. If telepathy is somehow a perception of facts from natural world, which one perceives as strong feeling of something happening at distance, then would the evidence visible on Earth lead to perceptions of telepathic guts, which are complex brain calculations about the most probable alien cases, or would this "brain-emulated" telepathy not create probabilities of so different things?
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Franz_ replied to MellowEd's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@PurpleTree what do you think about reincarnation as a belief? personally i'm not really a fond of it -
He is wrong. There is no single action who isn't selfish, precisely because you chose to do it; it's an illusion. That's said if you want there are actions who are narcissists, generally out neuroticism/psychosis (self diriged) and actions who are altruistic (object diriged). There is no love in "doing something for humanity"; Even priests who have vowed celibacy spend their time helping others with their personal matters, doing humanitarian work where they can, for example, take care of children, etc. The same goes for Buddhist monks; they do it out of selfishness; they are not against pleasure, but rather against small pleasures. It's the same thing you do with a child, you inject (potentially, then all scenarios are different) a large amount of love into the universe; in a simple and practical way This way of seeing things is neurotic; it is secretly about satisfying an integrated tyrannical superego (inherited from the Oedipus complex) at an early age. No, that's not true. It's more narcissistic (look at my good recipes), and you give less love than you do with children. Do you think that people who look at your recipes become more energetically empowered by watching them? Of course not, that makes no sense. Again: 1) A lot of energy exchanged with one individual is always, overall, much more important than a tiny bit of energy exchanged with many people; just like a €1,000 check is always more important than 100 one-euro donations. If you're a solipsist, then THERE IS NO ONE LOOKING AT YOUR RECIPES. There's only what's perceived here and now; the real question is what generates the most love (or rather, the affection you want, generally speaking) here and now. And it's a false dilemma; the people who make recipes are the ones who are likely to have children; you'll see that antinatalists are often too selfish (in the sense of not wanting to give) to bother doing things like that. 2)When you say "I mustn't be selfish," you are tacitly implying that you are not a man and are still functioning as if you are subservient to a powerful father figure. We recognize neurosis by the superego's inclination not to take the form of a common law/reality principle ("I mustn't eat too much cake because I'll get fat") but rather to take an authoritarian form that directly opposes, to put it simply, the "id" (I mustn't eat too much cake because otherwise it's bad for some reason (unconsciously afraid of challenging Dad in the Oedipal competition)). 3)As I said in point 1, the universe is a reflection. When you operate altruistically, it's actually mostly narcissistic, and you'll encounter mirrors and, generally, a world like that. Are Leo's mirrors mature, masculine people full of love; fathers, entrepreneurs, members of charities, altar boys, etc.? Or is it something else? Ahah, that's the energetic reality of this egregor. Again, you're neurotic. We don't care about "leaving something behind," and as I said, when you want to "leave something behind," it's basically a narcissistic delusion, and therefore the affects distilled into the world by your avatar will probably be mediocre; especially since you're solipsistic, so logically you shouldn't have these considerations. Also, there's an over-inflated ego here; you're not the reincarnation of Napoleon or whoever; you're a random person. Precisely, having children is one of the main, most powerful, and simplest ways to exchange energy. Not the only one ofc; you're not going to spend your life taking care of children; that's not what it's about. You have no higher consciousness, that too is an infantile narcissistic delusion to avoid having to be an adult. I've already said this in response to Sugarcoat, but when you think about it, when you have been a minimum socially integrated or, better yet, somewhat aware of Marxist culture, it seems increasingly pathetic to see people talking about higher consciousness because they eat magic mushrooms when they are not particularly competent in some domain, have no culture, actually suffer from mental illness and are incapable of giving, have a medium or even low iq qnd/or too brain rot to even read a book, etc. There is an overestimation of oneself here. Ken Wilber talked about this in a video, I think, the title was something like "Western vs. Eastern Vision of the Ego."
