I think Leo Gura should have children and close the forum.

[Schizophonia]

@Leo Gura is kind, smart and has a decent sense of efforts/responsability. 

He could have a wife and children who truly love him, but instead, probably because he identifies with a father figure full of guilt who didn't dare spank him or something like that, he ends up with a forum of wankers because of the legacy of guilt he doesn't want to send us to hell; many of whom wouldn't be able to put down a few dozen euros a month to have access to his forum, his videos and him in general.

Why would you waste energy on people who wouldn't even be able to pay a little to see you, it's a pure energy deficit if you think about it.

People will tell me that no, there are not only wankers and that I am projecting (which is obviously true, ahah; mirror effect and all that) but it is fundamentally false because the more proactive you are, unconsciously giving yourself over to your desires, the less time you will have to post here; because a forum is a libidinally poor investment object.

To get back to Leo, this "Serious guy who wears white shirts and talks about maturity/truth" archetype doesn't look like phallic software; it's software of submission to the father figure for fear of being punished.
If he really became fundamentally phallic, if he killed his father, I'm sure he'd have a divine revelation like, "Holy shit, why am I bothering with this shitty forum, this shitty toastmaster, these shitty shirts, these shitty truth stories, torturing myself with these shitty psychedelic trips? Now I'm going to a tank top with a big gold chain, start a family, have lots of friends, party regularly, become rich, etc."

Masculinity isn't scarcity software; masculinity is a state of opulence and warmth; it's the phallic position.

A behavior is phallic when the answer is no to the question "Is this coming from some kind of moral dictator in my head ?" otherwise it is neurotic.

Edited Tuesday at 11:42 AM by Schizophonia

[Rigel]

It’s sounds like it’s you who identifies with Leo’s moral dictator lol

[Schizophonia]

10 minutes ago, Rigel said:

It’s sounds like it’s you who identifies with Leo’s moral dictator lol

No because when i say "he should", I'm talking about enjoying, satisfying desires. Morality is a form of superstition in the sense that it aims to be an end, and unconsciously, it's actually about the fear of being punished.

Desire/Enjoyment on the one hand, castration anxiety on the other.

Edited Tuesday at 12:03 PM by Schizophonia

[Twentyfirst]

Idk, I was hoping he would release a new psychedelic video reviewing how tripping changes over a long period of time, he hasn't released a psych video in years

[Rigel]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

No because when i say "he should", I'm talking about enjoying, satisfying desires. Morality is a form of superstition in the sense that it aims to be an end, and unconsciously, it's actually about the fear of being punished.

Desire/Enjoyment on the one hand, castration anxiety on the other.

That’s what I’m saying. You are still doing it. You don’t know Leo’s desires. Is it so hard to believe that he’s doing what he wants & you are doing the same & they are different things & that’s it? You arbitrarily prescribe your own value system onto Leo. Do that with mostly any other human & they’ll fucking jump in your face & crucify you ahah. Or ignore you.

There isn’t a right way to live.

[Princess Arabia]

Lay off those drugs.😛😏😜

[Carl-Richard]

Ever tried not using theory as much and going with what you feel? That's the true phallic position.

Edited Tuesday at 02:29 PM by Carl-Richard

[Eskilon]

Stop projecting bro.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Typically the higher conscious someone is, the less children they pump out.

[Schizophonia]

3 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

Idk, I was hoping he would release a new psychedelic video reviewing how tripping changes over a long period of time, he hasn't released a psych video in years

Did you really ever see someone who became exceptionnal because of psychedelics ? 

It's like, like people are neurotics they can't just say "I want to take psychedelics because it's a funny/interesting experience", they have to pretend it's necessary for "conCIOusNEss PersOnAl DevelOpment", that it's "better than therapy" while you have everywhere people who had 30666 trips are are barely different than before, or the differences actually come from experiences/efforts in real life. 

1 hour ago, Rigel said:

That’s what I’m saying. You are still doing it. You don’t know Leo’s desires. Is it so hard to believe that he’s doing what he wants & you are doing the same & they are different things & that’s it? You arbitrarily prescribe your own value system onto Leo.

So you shouldn't make assumptions and suggestions to people who smoke crystal meth, because "Crystal meth smokers are just responding to their desire, you're trying to impose your value system." ?

Everyone here makes assumptions about everyone else; politicians, self-help gurus, streamers...

That's what I'm doing here, making a hypothesis about Leo Gura (I don't will don't put "I think that" at the beginning of each of my sentences )

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Do that with mostly any other human & they’ll fucking jump in your face & crucify you ahah. Or ignore you.

They can ignore me yes.
No one's going to jump on me for saying that except children lol. When I think about my father and the men his age who are hardworking, tough, who did a tough year of military service in their time in the French army, etccetc.; I would be ashamed to be like that, to be so fragile that you can't stand people politely making assumptions about my energetic structure on a forum.

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There isn’t a right way to live.

It's funny because on my Discord there's a guy with the same username as you who's a polydrug addict with fetishes.

And he's unhappy...
You're free to do what you want, yes, but there are ways of living life that will make you happy, because they're in line with our nature, and lifestyles that will make you unhappy.

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

Ever tried not using theory as much and going with what you feel? That's the true phallic position.

I am an intellectual.

When I see the completely shitty, uninteresting level of certain intellectuals, I would even say that I am probably one of the greatest French intellectuals of the modern era ahah.

😏

1 hour ago, Eskilon said:

Stop projecting bro.

Everything you say is projective

8 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Typically the higher conscious someone is, the less children they pump out.

My mentor (Franck Lopvet), who is easily on the same level as Peter Raltson, has about five children.
Developed countries are having fewer children because capitalism, combined with the breakdown of the collective, has created a society where it is difficult to have children.

The countries that have the most children are those where the social structure allows it, i.e., developing countries with relatively strong families, or more redistributionist countries (France, New Zealand, etc.).

It is also possibly easier to get tangled up in one's neuroses when you have more free time; the injunction of survival blunts the recourse to neurotic functioning.

Edited Tuesday at 04:02 PM by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Lay off those drugs.😛😏😜

Edited Tuesday at 04:04 PM by Schizophonia

[Twentyfirst]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

Did you really ever see someone who became exceptionnal because of psychedelics ? 

It's like, like people are neurotics they can't just say "I want to take psychedelics because it's a funny/interesting experience", they have to pretend it's necessary for "conCIOusNEss PersOnAl DevelOpment", that it's "better than therapy" while you have everywhere people who had 30666 trips are are barely different than before, or the differences actually come from experiences/efforts in real life. 

 

It's a skill issue. Like everything only the top 1% succeed. In psychedelics it may only be the top 0.1% who win big and the rest end up eating shit. To ignore psychedelics or dismiss their potential just because a couple of idiots ended up in a mental hospital is a huge mistake. People are just afraid of whats new or taboo and psychs are so strange that it could take centuries for people to catch up and realize what it is

[Sugarcoat]

Not everyone feels fulfilling their biological role to preserve humanity’s survival is their top value in life. Not everyone wants to be like every other mammal.

[Schizophonia]

21 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Not everyone feels fulfilling their biological role to preserve humanity’s survival is their top value in life. Not everyone wants to be like every other mammal.

Don't be narcissistic, you're a mammal; you have the needs of ordinary humans, no matter how forgotten/repressed they may have been.
I'm not saying to have children to "populate the planet," but to generate love. I've seen many people who have had children speak to me and obviously each scenario is individual but very often it gives real meaning to their lives.
And it's not just about having children; it's about having a sensual, vitalist, and enterprising approach to life; having children, having a group of friends, doing business, having a job, making music, riding a jet ski, wandering in nature, feeling the beauty of nature and the present moment in general etc.

 

[AION]

This topic should be renamed to “Leo, please adopt me” 

[Schizophonia]

5 minutes ago, AION said:

This topic should be renamed to “Leo, please adopt me” 

Make Actualized Great Again

[Sugarcoat]

19 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Don't be narcissistic, you're a mammal; you have the needs of ordinary humans, no matter how forgotten/repressed they may have been.
I'm not saying to have children to "populate the planet," but to generate love. I've seen many people who have had children speak to me and obviously each scenario is individual but very often it gives real meaning to their lives.
And it's not just about having children; it's about having a sensual, vitalist, and enterprising approach to life; having children, having a group of friends, doing business, having a job, making music, riding a jet ski, wandering in nature, feeling the beauty of nature and the present moment in general etc.

 

 I said it’s not the absolute pinnacle of life for every human. Just like sex and food. You can have those things and value them without putting it your number one thing . Not everyone values their own bloodline first and foremost: maybe they also value children in war that they’re not related to, and wanna help people overall raise their consciousness, without having a need to love their own off spring in particular.
 

Love can be directed at many things, it could be metaphysical love, love for children is not necessarily “higher “ than any other form of love, could be self love, love for animals, humanity, for awakening. You say narcissistic, as  if people having children isn’t a lot of the time deeply selfish. They extend their identity to their children, but identity could go even further, you could make it your identity to improve and care for the whole world. It can be limited or very expansive

Edited Tuesday at 06:30 PM by Sugarcoat

[cistanche_enjoyer]

 

[Sugarcoat]

Imagine telling a guy literally exploring the peaks of human consciousness to instead resort to the most basic animalistic purpose of our species. lol 

Edited Tuesday at 06:32 PM by Sugarcoat

[Alex4]

I hope Leo is not afraid to delete this thread. Belongs to the shit bin.
 

Edited Tuesday at 07:05 PM by Alex4