Suicide & chronic pain

[cistanche_enjoyer]

I am very grateful that I am mostly healthy and able to ejoy life in the present moment.

However, sometimes I do get sick or a headache and I wonder, damn, how are the people that feel like this 24/7 able to live? Why wouldn't they just end it and hope for a better reincarnation?

Especially if one has already awakened to his true nature that as eternal and infinite.

[Someone here]

People with chronic pain and zero hope to improve do in fact kill themselves. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@cistanche_enjoyer some people fully surrender and accept their circumstances. 

Some end it. 

It is an eternal struggle humans have attempting to control. For assurance. To relieve stress. All stemming from survival.  Each of us require a different amount of control to feel OK. The surrender and endurance some people have is really a recognition we have no ability to control anything at all.

It is a really wise person that can recognise how ableist they are and appreciate it without it being ripped away... 

If you want raw brutality visit a hospice or spend some time at hospitals. My work requires me to be in these environments. It is the most grounding thing I have witnessed.

[Pedro M]

59 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@cistanche_enjoyer some people fully surrender and accept their circumstances. 

Some end it. 

It is an eternal struggle humans have attempting to control. For assurance. To relieve stress. All stemming from survival.  Each of us require a different amount of control to feel OK. The surrender and endurance some people have is really a recognition we have no ability to control anything at all.

It is a really wise person that can recognise how ableist they are and appreciate it without it being ripped away... 

If you want raw brutality visit a hospice or spend some time at hospitals. My work requires me to be in these environments. It is the most grounding thing I have witnessed.

This was good.

Thank you 

[PenguinPablo]

I cant speak for all situations.

But I do speak from experiences as I have suffered from it since very, very young in multiple places in my body.

First there studies that show a hedonic adaptation

So basically people come back to their baseline happiness even after they developed chronic pain.

In my experience there is truth to this. Despite the fact that my body hurts and is less mobile, I am still generally content. Although it did take a couple years to settle back into this reality.

Lastly what I have managed to do is basically instead of trying to force my body to do what it cannot, I try to adapt and make modifications. 

That in itself has been it's own reward. I could become overweight, high blood pressure, and very unhealthy but instead I am more healthy than most.

And I didn't do that by going to the gym but turning my daily life into the gym. That entire process forces me to be creative and I would argue the way I am doing it has many advantages over the traditional way people do because they haven't been forced to adapt and question the status quo.

And for sure I have hated my life at times. I have lost opportunities available to me economically, social, and so on and so forth...

Because perhaps I am physically incapable. Or socially etc...

But instead of trying to force and push against the wall, letting things flow and going with the current. 

Idk I hear that life can surprise it if you let it, instead of forcing what you cling to as the ideal. 

Edited Friday at 12:11 AM by PenguinPablo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@PenguinPablo

This was powerful. I am grateful you shared it.

Creativity arises when we are faced with limitation.

[Carl-Richard]

Bernardo Kastrup became suicidal after acquiring severe tinnitus. He still has the tinnitus but is no longer suicidal.

 

Edited Friday at 03:25 AM by Carl-Richard

[Raze]

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Raze I have listened to this previously and it is damn powerful 

@Carl-Richard I have tinnitus also, my brain is filtering it out now. I wonder if I am losing the ability to perceive some frequencies though... frightening

Edited Friday at 04:05 AM by Natasha Tori Maru