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Guys, I am leaving the forum, because they don't want me to be here. This is my last post or message to You. 🌹 The Last Illusion: A Love Letter to the Seeker My dear friends, You came into this world as a child. Crying, innocent, naked. And since then, the world began whispering lies into your ears. They told you: Become someone. Become better. Be good. Be spiritual. Follow the rules. Control your mind. Kill your ego. And one day, you will be free. How could you know they were only giving you new chains? This time made of gold. The moment you begin to seek, you already forget what you are. You do not need to become enlightened. You need to stop becoming anything. 💥 The Seeker Must Die The person who wants to be enlightened must let go of everything, not in theory, but in fire. Let go of attachments. Let go of survival. Let go of your mother, your gods, your dreams, your death, your heaven. Let go of fear, beliefs, morality, sin, karma, identity. Everything the mind has collected like dust over eternity. And when you let go completely, not because you should, but because you see, something begins to fall away on its own. First the thoughts. Then the thinker. Then the body. Then the breath. And what remains? Being. No experiencer, no God, no story, no time. Just Being. Unnamable, untouched, unmoved. 🪞 All of It Was Thought And then realization comes: All of it, God, soul, birth, death, destiny, even enlightenment was a game of thought. You were dreaming a dream made of mirrors. Thoughts don’t have meaning. You give them meaning. Like a mirror you see yourself in it only because you stand before it. But turn the mirror around, and what is there? Nothing. Blankness. So it is with thought: if you are attached, the “you” is real and the thought has meaning. But when there is no attachment, no clinging, no “you,” no meaning, and even the thought vanishes like mist in sunlight. And then what remains? Not a void. Not a blank. But pure Being. 🌸 Realization Blossoms In that moment, the realization bursts open like a wildflower. The entire drama, birth, God, mind, life, death, meaning was thought's attachment to itself. You were never a person. The “you” never existed. And in that realization, suffering ends. Why? Because the one who suffered was part of the dream. Now, only the Now remains. No past. No future. Only Being, eternal, effortless, radiant. 💗 Love: The Fragrance of Being From Being comes Love. Not the love of two. Not desire. Not need. Not relationship. But Love as your very nature. Love with no object. Love with no opposite. Love without asking. You are that love. Not as someone loving, but as Love itself. The moment is your temple. And its only offering is Love. 🔥 This Life Is Your Only Life My dear friends: This life is your first and your last. There is no reincarnation. That is the ego’s fantasy of continuation. There is no next life. That is the mind’s fear of dying. Before this body, you were not a person. After this body, you will not return as one. You were Being before birth. You will be Being after death. The story ends. The dream dissolves. No replays, no rewinds, no next chapter. So let go. Let the self die before the body dies. Let go of your story. Let go of your ambition to awaken. Be Love now. To burn in Love for one second is worth more than ten thousand lifetimes of seeking. 🧘 Real Spirituality vs Spiritual Ego Now listen closely — this is important: Real spirituality is Being, the divine playing the game of a person, and then waking up laughing. But the false spirituality: the kind that is becoming popular is the ego playing at being God. It is Leo’s spirituality. Yes, I say it without hesitation. It is the mind putting on holy robes, the ego sitting on a golden throne and saying, “I am God.” But who is speaking? The ego. Who is claiming? The mind. Who is still becoming, still knowing, still grasping? The false god is still a self. And that is the most dangerous illusion of all. Because it looks like truth but stinks of ambition. 🕊️ Burn the Belief — Be the Flame Words, my beloved, are only petals. They are not the rose. Even the word “Truth,” even “Being,” even “God”, if held, become prisons. The moment you say “this is it,” you have already stepped away. What You are is not apart from you. But if you try to name it, you turn the ocean into a cup of tea. So be silent. Be empty. Be nobody. And in that nobody-ness — Love flows. 🌌 The Invitation: Before It’s Too Late So laugh. Sing. Cry. Kiss a stranger. Forgive someone who never apologized. Dance in the rain. Smell the soil. Whisper to the trees. And say “I love you” not to anyone, but to Existence itself. Be the flame. Before the candle goes out. Because nothing matters in the end… except that you loved, that you were Being, that you woke up for a single moment and saw that it was all a dream and still smiled. With love, with laughter, with Being. My friends… Leo Gura is not a problem. He is just a stage. A step. A possibility. He has glimpsed something real, yes. But the problem is, he has tasted a drop and declared himself the ocean. And the moment you declare, the moment you claim, it is already lost. There is still a center in him, a me, who talks of God, who teaches Being, who uses the word “Infinite” but cannot see that anything you say about it is already false. He says, “I am God.” But when a somebody says that, it is not realization it is spiritual ego. When Being is, there is no one to claim it only to see it. Because it is already You. Not to be reached, not to be named. Just seen, without the seer. My friends, real spirituality is God playing the person, knowing it is a play, laughing through the tears, dancing in the silence. Leo’s spirituality is the opposite: ego playing God, dressing itself in cosmic language, wrapping itself in divine terms, building a new identity even more dangerous than the old one, the identity of one who is enlightened. The one who is awakened does not claim anything. Because there is no one to claim it only to see it. Because it is already You. Not to be reached, not to be named. Just seen, without the seer. You see, the moment you say “God,” the distance is already created. The moment you say “awakening,” the dream continues. That which is true is silent. Not the silence of suppression, the silence of absence. No name. No seeker. No final state. Only Being. Yes, Leo has spoken of love, of consciousness, of death and infinity. But when you watch carefully, you will see: he is still becoming. Still moving toward something. Still owning the journey. Still judging. And where there is ownership, truth has not happened. He is not a false teacher. He is not a liar. He is half-awake and that is the most dangerous state. Because now the ego of spirituality is born. And that is more difficult to dissolve than ordinary ego. You believe you are free, while still imprisoned. You speak of God, while still subtly claiming to be the one who found Him. That’s why i say: “The last thing to drop is the one who says, ‘I have dropped everything.’” The one who truly awakens disappears. The self, the mind, the body, even the witness, all dissolve. And in that disappearance, there is no God left to claim. There is only Being — effortless, wordless, ungraspable. So what to do? Watch Leo — but don't follow him. He is not false. He is not a fraud. He is simply unfinished. Therefore, he misleads inevitably. He has entered the temple, but the ego is still wearing the robes of the priest. Don’t touch the robes. Drop the temple. Let even the idea of “awakening” die. And then — only then — what remains is what you always were. Not the awakened self. But the absence of self. Not “I am God.” But no I. No God. Only Being. My friends, let go of even the last idea. Let go of the one who lets go. And fall into what never began and never ends. There is no enlightenment waiting for you. There is only this. This moment. This breath. This silence. Everything else is commentary. With love, with laughter, with Being. Best Regards,

@enchanted potentially, yes, but practically, infinity manifested has its laws, especially, Karma. The aswer to the "what happens when we die" should always be always be "it depends". And it mainly depends the framework used and/or on your level of spiritual developents. If all one think about in life is sex and donuts that particula individuality will just vanish from existence. In every one there is a divine spark that, figuratively, just goes bakc to the Creator, if not diveloped. What spiritual practice usally does to a human is halping to coagulate that divine part in us, what is usally called Soul, that eventually remains after the death of the physical body, reincarnating in a new one. On Earth? In another Galaxy? Again, it depends on where are You on your Journey. Eather way, You are going to reincarnate, unless you are a master and you can decide to dessolve into God or come back. Only spiritually ignorant poeple don't reincarnate. But You have to keep in mind that things like "Soul", "God", "Death" are just concept, and therefore arbitry categorization of reality that are not inherent to existence. Buddists reject the existence of a Soul or a God and their doctrine works just fine, and is right in its own way. Or, imagine being Pure Infinity itself: You wouldn't even know a concept like reincarnation exist. Authentic past lifes memories are a sign of good work, but they are rare, and not necessary. Wait. God Consciousness is usually realized during life for the reasons a stated above. Poeple who have deep religious faith usally don't develop enouth to go to an actual Heaven Beliving alone won't get you to whatever heaven you think about, because you are just going to be encored to Earth with standard Christian beliefs. These poeple are gonna come back as deeply religious poeple until they open up to mysticism.

When the body reaches its time of death the ego makes the ultimate compromise in attempt to pull off the last illusion, it convinces itself that it's God & so instead of dying it transforms into God because as Leo described it he became God but he was still included, the "I" was still there, it's just that his ego was naked so to speak but that sparkle of himself was still there which he called the ultimate self or selflessness, it's a lie an illusion of ego, the ego is very smartly concealed itself into naked ego. In this scenario the ego says to itself ok I am done here, my body is dying so it strips off it's identity because it have no choice but it creates the ultimate illusion which feels even more real then the previous reality itself and creates this concept of God, infinity, it chooses one best emotion to accompany it, the unconditional, indiscriminate Love as Leo describes it & in this way it fulfils it's ultimate wet dream of becoming immortal & infinity because watch out here, what's the ultimate wet dream of Ego? To never die & to become infinity & immortal but it just escaped the dimension of duality into the dimension of singularity but it's stil an ego only in it's purest form & it's still attached to the unconditional Love, it's infinite, formless, concealed, loving which is an identity still an ego, also we now include also the concept of reincarnation into the picture which the ego enjoys even more because its not just infinity at this point but also it will constantly reincarnate into new lifeforms all over & over again, very convenient right!? Because everything is an illusion even the concept of God must be an illusion, therefore I believe we must go one dimension even beyond that to escape the cycle of reincarnation and that is that we must allow for God to die because if it cannot die then it's not whole & it's not omnipotent because infinite imagination must be able to imagine also it's own end however paradoxical this sound it's a fact, death of God confirms & completes it's infinite omnipotence & this must be done without the possibility of ever bootstrapping or rebooting itself into existence ever again & in this way you truly close your eyes, you truly die, no restart & so you escape the illusion. The infinity itself doesn't vanish this way it's just that it becomes infinite non existence, void of even that sparkle of naked self I mentioned. You let go even that most soothing notion of immortality & infinite Love, even that must go, even God must die alongside with it's creation & then the cycle is completed the ouroboros stops chasing it's tail. Until then, much Love to you all.

Reincarnation is just a belief, an idea learned within this life, through the mind. But the mind, along with all knowledge and belief, belongs to the so-called body. Before this life, there was no body, no mind, only Being. After this life, the same: only Being. What You truly are doesn’t come, doesn’t go. Birth and death are events within experience, but Being is untouched.

Reincarnation into pork in the worst slaughterhouse

OK I see . My point once again I can't conceive of the end of suffering as long as forms and limitations and lack and need exist In this world . If death is pure fucking eternal sleep then unfortunately that's the only way to escape suffering permanently. And unfortunately death is just like sleeping you take a pause to refresh and then start all over again =reincarnation. But buddhism actually teaches Nirvana or permanent nothingness if you conquer desire .

There ain't transcending pain as long as you live in this body made of bones and flesh which gets super hungry and thirsty and sleepy every 12 hours . When you die and (probably) play chess with God in his house called nothingness then there will be no pain. Buddhists call this nirvana . But you have to stop the reincarnation cycle by not giving a dam about anything under the sun aka detachment.

Most of humans believe that with the birth, firstly, mind or brain becomes active in the skull, it has billions of molecules that interacts with each other that's how thinking, feeling, perceiving, imagining, remembering, willing, memory, learning, experiencing etc... are creating. Even if brain is used %100 via psychedelics, normally or anything etc... İt is still be considered under the functioning of experiences or feelings. Because of that before physical birth (without the mind), we don't know what was happening such as there is no experience or non experiencing, belief, think, God, nothing, infinite, reincarnation, existence, or non existence etc... Therefore, after physical death (mind or brain dies too) we won't know what will happen such as there will no experience or non experiencing, belief, think, God, nothing, infinite, reincarnation, existence, or non existence etc... (For example, reincarnation is something that we have learned in this life with our brain, so when physical death happens, mind dies too, therefore, after life or next life is completely nonsense). Moreover, the absolute Truth or what We really are is should be the ultimate Truth, and that Truth should be completely true even before physical birth, now and after physical death. That's how becoming directly conscious of our absolute true nature take places. So, how can one become conscious what the Absolute Truth that covers entire eternity (before physical birth, now or after psychical death) with the mind ? Therefore, The true answer can never comes from the mind. Therefore, never comes from any experience, feeling, beliefs, etc... That's when spiritually take places. When one become conscious of that mind is accumulation of thoughts, attachment with thinking (therefore an attachment). Therefore, without thinking (or thoughtlessness) there is no separation with before so called birth, now or after so called death. (Not the thinking or concept of before birth or after death, however before birth or after death (İn that moment)). Because of that universe is not based on physical interaction, however it is only product of the thoughts or thinking ( I don't know what name in Science or Philosophy) 😊 Therefore, The only way to directly conscious of our True nature is throwing out the mind. Because, mind is the only reason of creating the past or future, death or birth. Therefore, separation. etc.. Even if you still attached to thinking, What was there before your so called birth (not the idea of before birth, but before birth in that moment)? 😊 That's what You really are (Some people call Nothing, Some people call Being), always, never moved not changed. Much love and respect to you. Best Regards.

It's all stories, experiences and dream stuff all these astral body stuff and leaving the body stuff and escaping the matrix and all those reincarnation and NDE stories. I can be in a dream last night and it all seems real and whatever the experience was in the dream you couldn't tell me it wasn't happening and that I was dreaming. I'm not saying it doesn't seem to happen but it's all illusory. All stories and memory and hallucination and whatever else that requires for there to be real time and space to be real. I'm not saying the person is dreaming any of this stuff or that it never happened, I'm saying there is no person to Astral project it's the Absolute being all that. There's no person that actually Astral projected, just as there's no person that's actually dreaming. The dream is that there's a person to dream or Astral project. The individual is holding on to it's reality so badly and cannot accept that it doesn't exist and will make up all kinds of stories to keep the dream alive. The dream is the story, the person is the dream, the storyteller is the dream and the dream tells about itself. It tries to hang on for dear life and cannot see that it invented itself and everyone else.

I was thinking in the Buddhist paradigm, which contrasts emptiness with fullness and seeks the elimination of suffering and identifies that with enlightenment, all around the belief in reincarnation and nirvana

@Petals Fair points. I have some subjective data points from this reality that are aligned with what the people in the videos say - that we came for a reason, that there was a harsh "forgetting" or veil, and that I am in communication with someone or something beyond physical 3-D reality. But I've never been to the astral dimension, I never had direct contact with any entity. And I experienced that reality also can project pre-determinded believes or past experiences of me, that's why I'm careful. I don't like the narrative he puts on these entities and the reincarnation story. He projects a very negative picture. And while I had my fair share of life circumstances that seem like a "negative set up", I also have been very fucking lucky, too. It kind of balances out, maybe? Things magically happened for me that allowed me to experience exactly what I wished to experience. Very grateful for that. It feels a bit like hunger games where others can decide to sent some good stuff your way I often had this feeling, good things out of nowhere and it I had a very strong feeling that it wasn't me responsible for this good thing happening. It just fell into my lap out of nowhere. Don't know why, maybe I did something right, maybe I was entertaining, maybe sme had pity, maybe sme just wants to support me, maybe all of it, may be none of it. And in one video the guy also says "would do it a million times again"...so maybe we are tricked into something that's good for us even if we don't see it like that allem the time?

Well, I have no memory of sth like this. I do have the feeling of being guided sometimes, and I do have the feeling of being taught lessons. But how exactly, why, by whom, what for etc...don't know. There's certainly more going on that the eyes can see on the surface. But again, what exactly I don't know. There are so many stories about entities, reincarnation, purpose of life etc how to know what's really true? How to know that it's even the same for all humans?

Don't forget the Reincarnation / Soul Trap MaTrix. Poor us trapped souls!

The point isn't to disintegrate the self, but to open it. Disintegrating the self is the Buddhist way; it implies reaching emptiness. In emptiness, there is no suffering, and nothing matters. But there is a trap: who is dissolving the self? Another self, the Buddhist self that believes in emptiness, reincarnation and nirvana. Opening means perceiving yourself as the living flow of the reality without limits. I mean, you perceive yourself as the form , but also as the flow, the movement, the becoming, then you can shift the focus to the unlimited perspective putting the structure in background. To do that you have to make the structure equalized with the flow, so similar thats almost one, without closures, transparent. Then in some moments you can perceive the real flow so direct than you get open to it's ultimate nature. That's the mystical thing, look in the face to the totality and be one with it, be that. Not the flow or the becoming, the absolute, the nature of reality, the reality itself. Then it closes but the flow is permeated of its life, it's clarity, it's beauty. So you see clearly that everything is pale, black and white, if your perception is opaque. It's not defining the reality as infinite, god or anything, is be open to it's nature as much as is possible, then the self can be burned by the fire of the real thing. It's not that the self is false, it's that it's like a interface. It's impossible being without self unless you equalize the interface so much that the absolute or call it whatever is transparent, then you have like mystic experiences then you think... maybe the self is dissapearing, it's just the totality flowing, there is no difference in some moments. Maybe in some point it's so transparent that there is no "self", just a minimalist structure that almost doesn't occupy place and the totality that you are is totally open all the time. But little by little because there are opaque points , it's a natural process that moves in its rhythm, like anything else. It's impossible to force it, just perceive as clear as you can, without lies, ideas, traps, etc

In my opinion one of the problems with spirituality is these kinds of ideas. You are the tree; there is no separate self. Perceived reality is an illusion. Consciousness is the foundation of reality. Let's see, you are the tree, but it's better to cut down the tree than to have your leg chopped off, right? So these kinds of statements are confusing. Another: the self is an illusion; you are creating your suffering; you can stop doing that. Let's see, the self is an illusion; therefore, you (the self) are creating your suffering, and you (the self) can stop doing that. Well bit contradictory right?......and creating it? How do you create it? If, for example, when you're 8 years old, your mother is tortured in your presence, you create suffering?. Or does your genetic structure create it, relating to a circumstance that occurs? You could say that everything is you. And then claim that there is not you. What's the point of that mess? Just contradictory concepts that are absolutely useless, worse than useless, a trap. Why deny reality? That's not going to work. Spirituality is above all denial and religion. Buddhism and Advaita assume that reincarnation is a fact. How do they know this? Their entire discipline aims to achieve a better reincarnation, or, if possible, nirvana. cause and effect, future achievement. escapism. self-deception. We can articulate a spirituality without all that bullshit. But to achieve that we have to look directly without mercy. It's not a matter of narcissism, it's about truth.

Then there is duality between reality and illusion. Do you know where this comes from? From the meditative Buddhist tradition. According to it, you have to force the mind to stop, since its movement is an error; it's falsehood. Silence, on the other hand, is truth. This way, you reach a silent state in which you repress the psyche and, with it, suffering. This is normally supported by the idea of reincarnation. Whoever cuts off their mind in this way usually does so in search of a better future, even if they won't admit it, even to themselves: better reincarnation or nirvana (I'm not saying that it's your case). Given the obvious duality of stillness and movement, it is affirmed that movement doesn't exist, and thus the problem is solved. But movement exist. Calling it illusion is meaningless imo

Its not a Belief, or a Disbelief, its just an openness to it. we are not limited to believing or disbelieving, we can also just be open to a different possibility, and thru trial and error we find out, I don't know if I'll ever be able to find out for sure if the atoms in my body are in communication/connection with every other atom in existence but who knows eh? With reincarnation, some physical verification of some form can via a show I was watching with Neil Degrasse Tyson , in it he said within our DNA is the DNA of a flower, a bee, tree, and so forth, so if that is so it sort of confirms in a physical way our history thru this existence, if the dna of other life is within Us then maybe we were it in a previous life time??

Reincarnation is a human beings hope to live more. But this is the end. No more life, heaven etc... We come from nothing, we go back to nothing, which is what We are. How you gain the knowledge of your birth, death is surrendering of it, which is end of all desires, pleasures, pains etc... If you believe in that and happy about it, that's great 😊 I don't want to destroy your hope and goals 😊

I want to convince him out of his belief that Hitler was a leftist because in a way I want to demonstrate to myself that all the inner work that I've done can materialize itself by being able to correct somebody out of his self deception. To me it is a matter of life and death the Nazism subject! And people like TIK threaten my survival by being so wrong that he believes Bernie Sanders is the reincarnation of Hitler! Look, the reason it threatens my survival is because people won't know how to avoid electing the next Hitler because of people like TiK! Putin's fascist army is at 500 km away of my house, all my friends hate and demonize Ukraine and want it to lose and surrender to Putin, all the alternative media is filled with propaganda that demonizes the EU and Ucraine, and when comes election time and Putin wants to put a puppet far right president and government in my country, because of people like TiK, people would believe that the opponent of the far right candidate is the actual nazi because the opponent is a progressive! I am really scared for my life, for real!

@Sugarcoat your aware its happening. Imagine you wake up in the morning and there's nothing there but you know there's nothing there and you just sit there. You can still think you can still emote. Its like your ears plugged, eyes sewn shut ,mouth sewn shut, body tied together you cant move but you know you are there. Then you go to sleep after 16 hours and experience the same thing nothing. Then you wake up and you experience everything sewn shut again then go to sleep wake up over and over for infinite time. Forever not 100 years not 1000 years more than 1 million years. Its so long you lose concepts of everything and just cry out for experience. Its like I have no mouth but want to scream I have no eyes but want to see i have no ears but want to hear i have no body but want to move. I'm by myself but want other people. If you came out of death you would want the horrible reincarnation over death. You would beg for it. You would say please God I want to experience something.

I enlighten the forum members with my light, I am the second reincarnation of Christ after all.

Humanity was designed to be deliberately unfair. Human life (reincarnation) is portrayed as intentionally difficult, filled with scarcity, suffering, and unfulfilled desires (e.g., lack of relationships, material struggles, physical limitations). The spirit world, in contrast, is described as a place where desires are easily fulfilled, manifesting anything (love, abundance, experiences) in a way that feels just as real as physical existence. I think the spiritual realm is a dream existence or manifestation of our physical realm.

Im not saying this is the only way of how to live life, we can live life in other ways due to our free will, but I would say this is a way and a pretty good way. It does make me wonder though, why is it that when we reincarnate as a human, we very often almost have nothing of what we want or not nearly enough of it, then when we pass on to the other side (spirit world), it switches to the inverse to where we can have basically EVERYTHING we want and have always wanted. I'm thinking it was intentionally designed this way for a reason, to first have almost nothing (as a human), and then to have almost everything (in the spirit world). Also this is only referring to spirits that reincarnate or incarnates, which would also be us humans. Okay, I always wonder, in this life as reincarnating as a human, it’s hard as hell. As a guy, I can’t seem to attract a girlfriend at all and I’m suffering from intense touch starvation. I haven’t had a girlfriend in so many years, and a female hasn’t touched me in so long. Physically this does hurt. I might live the rest of my life like this. But this does get me wondering, maybe life as reincarnating as a human is supposed to be this ridiculously hard and unfair, then when we die physically, we can go off into the spirit world, and it’s in the spirit world is where we can be able to have and experience all the things that we couldn’t have here as a human. And it can if we want to be just as realistic and physical as it is here in the physical world, so then we can really experience in spirit world what we couldn’t experience in the physical world. Then this also got me thinking, maybe the proper way on how to live life as reincarnating as a human and then out in the spirit world, is both of the selfless and of the selfish. Which is that when you reincarnate as a human, God wants us to have selflessness, with a small amount of selfishness, that’s why it’s so hard to get things we want as a human. To get women, to get intimacy, to have money, to have shelter, to have food, to be cared for, heck even a decent functioning body can be hard to get, etc. it’s almost as if God intentionally designed the reincarnation world this way to be so hard, mean, and cruel, to make it really hard to get the things we want, so then we can enter more into a state of selflessness rather than selfishness. Which is that when you're intensely suffering over a period of time of not receiving the thing you want, this invokes a sense of compassion in you and gratitude and joy for the little amount of things you have. You feel compassion for others who are also suffering in the mud, you want to help them because deep down you don’t want them to feel the same pain you experienced. Then after we die and go into the spirit world, God then wants us to have selfishness, with a small amount of selflessness. And so then the world that we go into, it’s really eeeeeasy to get everything we want, to easily manifest it all. I can go into other worlds, have armies of harems of the most beautiful women all for me and fulfill all my desires, all the food I want to experience, the biggest mansion I want to live in, the most incredible vast adventures to explore and go on with the most awesome group of friends, and of course if we want it can be just as physically real as if we were human on Earth to make the experience more exciting and interesting. This is where God wants us to also enter more into a state of selfishness, with a small amount of selflessness. Yes God wants his children to help and be there for others, but it would be foolish to ONLY help others and completely disregard yourself, God also wants his children to enjoy themselves as well. This I believe is the great balance between both worlds, the world of the selfless which is Hell (to create great pain and suffering amongst ourselves to help evolve reality to be more in an state of giving). And the world of the selfish which is Heaven (to create great rest and enjoyment amongst ourselves to help evolve reality to be more in a state of receiving). When these two worlds are happening simultaneously, it allows reality to work in harmony of both giving and receiving, this I think would then be a perfect balance that God wants his children to be in. Of course there are variations, there are humans on earth that are mostly selfish, and there are human spirits in the spirt world that are mostly selfless, this is okay as we can choose this from our free will, but if we follow this basic framework of selflessness and selfishness, this allows both sides to be balanced and is great for our spiritual evolution. Its like the yin and yang, both sides are the inverse, but each side has a little bit of the other side. One side is light, but it has a little bit of dark, and other side is dark but has a little bit of light. Thus I’m thinking this actually would be one excellent framework of how to live life, in both reincarnating as a human, and then living life in the spirit world. Also I say, "with a little bit of selfishness" or "with a little bit of selflessness", because in each world you should still have a little bit of other. If your reincarnating on earth, yes you mostly spending your time helping others, but you should still spend sometime for self too, maybe theres an amazing movie you like to watch or a game you like to play. And vice in the spirit world, yes your spending your time getting everything you want, but spend some time to help others along the way as well. Also I wanna add, which pretty much includes all of us here, the ones that are spending their time learning, expanding their awareness, understanding, and wisdom, whether that be from meditation, books, videos, talking to others, etc, this counts as an act of selflessness. Because by expanding our own wisdom, even if we're doing this alone, this feeds into the human collective consciousness, and thereby helps to raise the overall wisdom of all other humans (we're all connected to the human collective consciousness). What do you guys think? Also if im wrong about something or wrong about all of it, pls let me know lol. Im open to hearing all responses.

Warning: this is depressive you may not have the friends you'd like, the family you'd like, the health you'd like, the job you'd like, not being able to attract the people you are attracted to, not have the features you'd like, not living in a place you'd like, not having the experience you'd like, the money or respect you'd like. Add the suffering if you live in bad enviroment or/and bad people or have health problems, or mental illness. And then even if everything goes great maybe you are getting older and all the fun is gone, all the beauty is gone, all the hormones are gone, all the health and power is gone. Or there are young people that experienced everything fun and now there is no novelty, the same routine everyday. And all the desires we have that we never get them, and our souls cry that we don't have what we want. Even if you meditate and eliminate most desires, still you have no fun, you are just neutral I see people that have important things that I don't have and I want to cry. Why they have everything and I have nothing. Even them aren't nessecary happy but I suppose there is a tiny minority that is extremely happy and have everything. I don't want them to be sad, I just want to be happy like them. I am sad. I don't see any way out. My cope in life was philosophy, now that I don't find philosophy fun any more and don't want to think so much anymore, I no longer have anything to live for. I try to do art but I am very very bad at it so the fun isn't there. I don't know why should I keep living anymore. I really wish there is an afterlife cause I really want to go there(and pray it will be a good one, maybe with a lot of fun and happiness). I almost get happy thinking that there maybe some new life if things end. Maybe it's better this way. But I don't know even if reincarnation is real although I tend to believe it is, still I am not sure. I am just breathing, I am not living. Do you ever feel like life is not worth living?

It's basically the story of my "mentor"; he was quite disgusted by life, its brutality unfairness etc and wanted to use spirituality as a way of understanding always more and possibly never come back to earth; now he basically capitulated become more of a "normie". Some spiritual school including buddhism for exemple say we can stop "samsara wheel", reincarnation process or at least transcend forever the limits of the ego but idk if it's true.