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@Shadowraix It's a great starting substance, but you outgrow it quite quickly. I can confirm the zombie factor that Psychedsubstance talks about. You don't remember clearly first 1-2 hours of the peak. The visuals were beautiful for me, but what I liked the most is how kinesthetic this substance is. Much nicer body feeling, clean physical euphoria that LSD lacks. On LSD your body feels alien, on AL-LAD it feels super-natural. You also have this feeling of total control, you are the supervisor and can think about whatever you want. It lasts around 8 hours, too. That's why I think it's a good choice for a beginner. It lacks depth, though. Induces a lot of nostalgia feelings too. My first trip was on AL-LAD, here's what I had to say about it: "I am actually amazed by the visual part of the trip. It's nothing like what I have expected. It has this 80's vibe to it, very colorful with taste, not like all those psychedelics renders on the web. Smooth gradients, no contours, simple shapes. Sometimes vibrant, sometimes bland. Very clean and geometric, symmetric patterns." Compared to other psychedelics it's way more cartoonish. Yup, AL-LAD has a specific style, but I like it. Overall LSD seems to be a better and safer choice for spiritual work. Though for a first-timer, AL-LAD is a great substance.

1. There's definitely some connection, but the relevant differences go beyond sensations and even judgment of good or bad into context. An example might be the difference between when a random person sees a cobra vs. a scientist who studies snakes. In both cases they see a snake, and maybe even both feel some fear, but the whole context of the knowledge in the second case is very different. 2. When fear becomes extreme, some people are able to let go in a way they otherwise wouldn't, and the letting go is probably what enables a certain kind of quietness of mind that's interpreted as depersonalization. 3. It's not really about cultivating acceptance, really, probably, but curiosity. They would be ripe to become seekers, likely, and maybe would make progress quickly. 4. Not the same. The anatta is seeing that the you is false, not that you're here and an alien force is controlling your mind.

@jjer94 2. Thanks, it was worth it, I guess 4. Well, if it really is prozac, then it's one sneaky bastard. Anyway, now I gotta take charge of my fat butt 6. Yeah, it feels like catching up with simple human activities after 20 years of being an alien theorizing... plant?.. Lol

Definitely this is the biggest challenge of the path: embodying it deeply in everyday life. This is especially difficult with psychedelics because they take you so high so fast, no one can live from those places of infinite consciousness and still interact in the social world. At high doses of psychedelics you are not a human any more. It is like venturing to new alien dimensions.

And according to Sadhguru you can’t have an enlightenment on psychedelics. I don’t doubt the possibility that there isn’t some alien entity that came down and had such a deep understanding that it provided us with a process towards spiritual realization. A lot of ties connect to those possibilities. However that’s not exclusive to India. However, if we’re gonna be honest here and care about truth, we gotta play devils advocate too and put skepticism to that of how do we actually know how true that was the case? WE DON’T. Nor does it really truly matter at the end of the day. Are we here to be historians (and not be able to validate anything at the end of the day since all of that is still our/my/your own mind) or realize what’s actually true?

It is funny how deep belief goes. The words, just pixels, nothingness, self. The past, illusory. Jesus?...oh miracles, an alien maybe, etc. Maybe-I-can-get-that-consciousness beliefs. Sneaky indeed.

@mindcentral On which idea do you need support? About Jesus being an alien or about you not being a human?

@mindcentral Yes Jesus could be an alien. Now find out whether you are a human being in the first place

@Leo Gura, do you think people who communicate with other entities who reveal them secrets of life and the universe are just using their power unconsciously to create those entities? Or regressive hypnotist like dolores cannon or corrado malanga for example: When they work with other people, they can discover for example that the subject is or has been abducted by an alien. Fact is, those aliens speak through the man and they reveal details about creation and reality. I mean this is a work that involves thousands of people here and they all say the same story which is convincing. Are those events just created by the hypnotist with the power of his mind? Have you ever been able to contact such beings? Will you be interested in the future?

We have made a very simple practice into a very complicated intellectual thing. This is what Ramana Maharshi or Nisargadatta Maharaj meant as self inquiry. Do you feel yourself as one or many? Notice that no matter what, you always feel that I am one and whole. That subjective, singular feeling of I is your target for self inquiry. Self inquiry is not about one I looking frantically for another second I, a godlike liberated I. As if one day you will discover a new I as an object. Or one I disidentifying a second I from other objects. To illustrate this point, Ramana Maharahi composed a funny hymn which is something like this "Compare the man who mindlessly asks who am i? Whence am i? To the drunkard who repeats who am i? Whence am i?" I know where all these misconceptions come from. Leo in his enlightenment guide framed this entire practice which makes it seem like a very intellectual and complicated process with dozens of existential questions to ask and issues to parry and resolve. But that is not what the sages meant as self inquiry. Those existential, intellectual questions, insights and understandings were the last thing they would want you to think about. The fact of the matter is this: That singular, subjective feeling of I is already the liberated Self. But due to inadvertance, that sense of I mistakenly seems to be stuck inside the body as a limited entity. One's job is not to argue with oneself and try to convince oneself that the I is not an object but it is the supreme God, that would be brainwashing. Ones job is to simply be with it, be more interested in it and the truth of it will be revealed by itself. Usually we forget ourself all the time and attend to everything alien to us. That self forgetting attitude is what self inquiry tries to correct. If you keep on forgetting yourself, that I will keep on wearing that illusory mask of being the body-mind. But when you keep it on your radar, you eventually discover its truth. And as final note, that singular feeling I at first might seem like a sensation in the body, so that doesn't mean you'll now keep on focusing on a particular part of the body forever. The moment you clearly see the sensation, you'll also see that I is separate from it. So basically you wont grasp the I as an object ever. Its sort of like following that I feeling around, keeping it in your radar instead of forgetting it. But remember, its not about mindlessly roaming around either. You know that subjective, singular feeling I right now. Thats the scent you wanna keep on gently trying to lock on. Its all about more and more deeply feeling, being and settling down into oneself instead of superficially thinking, arguing with oneself, asking questions or any activity of the mind.

If you really wanna know more about the Self, start doing self inquiry. I studied Ramana and nisargadatta texts and notes on self inquiry for years, yes it was helpful but when I actually tasted being, i was like "omg! Why didnt they say it like that?" Then I went back and saw that they did say it as best as it could be said lol. The actuality of Being clarifies everything. This is all you gotta 'do': become uninterested and cease paying attention to any thought, feelings, anything other than yourself, and only be interested in your own self(the 1st person singular feeling I). Stay there, have the satsang with the Self and you dont need any knowledge from anyone! "Is this enlightenment?"- thats another thought "Omg i feel so good"- thats another thought "But what about that thing that sage talked about"- thats another thought "I dont feel the peace, its boring"- thats another thought "Okay, but what to do now?" - thats another thought "Cool but let me spin a cosmology now about everything else"- thats another thought So on and so forth. You get the idea. Leave all these alien things and only attend to yourself. You know what is you and what is alien to you. @Aakash take care ??? @akash

Nobody can help you unless you decide that you can be helped. The fact is that you are spending hours in this forum going left and right screaming for help and you can't get it. Because you see, you have already decided it to be so. Nobody can decide for you, because you have the power. You have the power to decide what is true for you. And this is a fact. You have the power to decide that you don't have power. That's how powerfull you are. To be honest, i don't give a shit about all of this work and community. It is what i want it to be, and nobody can tell me otherwise. People here claim all sorts of things about truth and reality. I just don't give a fuck. Nor do i understand it. If i don't want to understand it now, i won't. If i want in the future, i will. But i can come up from nowhere and say that everybody is whrong here, and have my version of life. And we have been all deceived by some alien species (Im just using my imagination now, it's not what i believe;Just to get my point accross), and reality is a completely different thing. And if i allign my thoughts, actions and feelings with this statemend, i would be living this reality, and the outside will give me proof of that. I can say about the reality whatever i want, nobody can disprove me. it's a fact. i know it to be true. I am the only one who decides here. I have the power. All of those people are nobody, even leo is nobody if i decide it to be so. Use your power wisely.

Most probably copyright nonsense as usual.. In the past there were thousands of videos free for everyone, now they all get removed for copyright and other reasons. I always download them using a youtube downloader website ASAP cause i know this will happen, sadly this one, which was really good i did not. Do this for every video on youtube you value and want to share and or watch again because these days videos like that always get targeted and deleted very rapidly. Many of the channeling videos that provide vital information are becoming targeted so many have move to other websites like Vimeno, D-tube and a few others. This is not just channeling videos alone, most videos that have some useful information to "wake you up" from the matrix are targeted. The amount of psychedelic awareness videos and war on consciousness and Alien/UFO ect... that have been removed and hidden or banned goes beyond that of challenging for example. Download everything you value worth sharing, we may need them in the future.

@Leo Gura You are alluding to what God says in the books "conversations with God "? Looking through the lense of reincarnation, the soul reincarnates over and over again, becoming more conscious and evolving to Oneness. Very spiritually advanced aliens also have a soul which can also reincarnate as a human on earth. If I remember right, God mentions (in the books conversations with God) the possibility that an "alien" soul reincarnated in a human body - Jesus. In case this is correct, then it would mean that we humans theoretically could also be able to do what Jesus did. Because our soul is fundamentally not different. It is most likely just much much less evolved than Jesus'. But that only means we would have to work extra hard in case we wanted to do what Jesus did. "whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do" John 14:12 But, as you also pointed out, when one becomes extremely conscious - that is more and more God - there comes a point when it becomes too much for the human form and it dies. Thus we humans might actually not be capable of handling such things... (yet, Jesus' soul also inhabited a human body. I know, I'm getting lost in speculations)

I cannot speak for you. For me, it's similar to 5-MeO-DMT in that it creates a state of total nondual consciousness, but then I'm also able to use my mind to contemplate whatever interests me and guide the trip in that direction. It's got a vibratory body energy more so than 5-MeO and it's more visual like a low dose of mushrooms. At higher doses the visuals will become more serious. I did not get serious visuals at 50mg. It lasts almost exactly twice as long. Which is awesome for contemplating. 5-MeO never quite lasts long enough for me. For me 2C-B has a terrible heavy body load. I don't enjoy that. LSD also tends to make my body feel uncomfortably alien. I enjoy the body feel of DPT more. 5-MeO-DMT probably has the least body feel of them all for me, which is nice. It's hard to definitely say that DPT is better than 5-MeO-DMT. I love them both. Both have something unique to offer. Both deserve to be at the top.

this is my take on nn dmt This is my personal experience with NN-DMT. There's been two stages in my life where i have used this substance. The first stage was when i was a heavy drug user and into partying i used to smoke lots of nn-dmt and i loved the effects of it but back then i was within the materialist paradigm so i could smoke this stuff but not go very deep at all i just thought the whole trip was just some crazy hallucinations just happening in my brain and only in my head but now a few years later after lots of self actualization and deep spirituality work i have experimented with NN-DMT and it is nothing like it used to be for me. My trips of nn-dmt are absolutely crazy to say the least. I freaked the fuck out last time i smoked nn-dmt. It hits you straight away right after smoking it and it can kick you right in the balls lol. It blasts you into the astral dimensions within seconds and it can be such an overwhelming experience which can freak you out. nn-dmt is in a completely different ball park compared to 5 meo dmt. 5 meo dmt is amazing and also incredible for realizing that you are god but nn dmt is different, its more about helping you entre astral dimensions i believe, i could be deluded on that but right now that is my current paradigm on nn dmt is that it is a way to explore other reality's within the astral plain that you cant access with your human day to day consciousness . Last time I smoked NN-DMT I saw Multi coloured spirit bodies flying around my living room it was beautify but i also got a deep sense that i should not be here. That i have opened myself up to a realm i shouldn't play around with it was abit of a eary, dark feeling. I also got this weird feeling of infinity but it wasn't a regular infinity experience like on 5 meo dmt or something it had a totally different feel to it. It felt super dark, alien feel to it was crazy and towards the end of the trip i started laughing so hard at reality ! I think this was an coping mechanism to deal with the intensity of the trip and my friend was asking "what did you see and i replied back "what didn't i see" while in tears of laughter. I was so mind fucked by this point. After it had ended i was so glad it was over and im not sure if i will take it again. It was to overwhelming for me and i don't think its even useful for enlightenment work to be honest but that's just my opinion i bet there are lots of people who would disagree i think nn dmt is more for exploring the astral realms which is pretty cool but you have to be ready for a wild adventure lol and i think its definitely a good substance for anyone into enlightenment work as it can help you see the other side of spirituality which is all the paranormal phenomena and nn dmt can help open your mind to all of that and it can also help you directly experience a little taste or even a big taste of the astral realms etc. Which I am 95% convinced that nn-dmt dose. I think it helps you access other plains of existence that you cant access with normal everyday consciousness. I think dmt activates certain things in your brain which helps you literally tap into other dimensions that exist.

@passerby It goes deeper than that! Even a hyper-dimensional brain complex is not as permanent as Infinite Consciousness itself. The final task is: become God, not some alien brain complex. Alien brain complexes are a tiny part of God's imagination.

I know this thread is about the new psychedelic, but since people are talking about other crazy experiences on other psychedelics. I think you will like this. Its from a new book called "Alien information theory: psychedelic drug technologies and the cosmic game" written by some neuroscientist who is also teaming up with rick Strassman to explore IV drip dmt for multiple hour long sessions of strait dmt. I didn't take the picture, its from reddit, but I've been meaning to buy the book myself

That's what makes my tests tricky. I have so much experience at this point and such a deep theoretical foundation that my trips are not your typical trips. For me each trip goes deeper and deeper, regardless of which substance. Mushrooms are not what they used to be for me. But even so, I hit a new level on this substance. Is it 100% due to the substance? No, it's a combination of factors. But this substance still seems pretty awesome to me. This substance will have great variability for different people because it really opens up your consciousness to go wherever your mind wants. For me this works great because my mind only cares about one thing: knowing God. But this is not most people. The thing I love about this substance in particular are: 1) It's slow-acting like molasses, allowing me to introspect and contemplate like on no other psychedelic. I can get ultimate insights about anything and everything better than with 5-MeO-DMT, which is too fast and racey. To me, this degree of contemplate seems impossible for any ordinary human to accomplish. The ordinary human mind simply cannot do such things. It's like unlocking the mind of a highly advanced alien species that can think in 5 dimensions. 2) I love its healing properties. It feels like I can use it to intentionally rewire my mind and body. All I have to do it imagine it and it happens. It feels like if one had cancer this substance could expand consciousness enough to heal it using one's will. But of course that's not proven. Just my hunch. It probably wouldn't work in all cases and I may be exaggerating it. But also maybe not! More testing required. I could see how this thing could cure things like depression or other kinds of psychological hang-ups if used properly.

JOKE OF THE DAY - the text here is so small and stuff that I don't need to make a joke. In fact i'm gonna reveal my biggest secret. I am not human. I'm actually a alien from mars. Helllllllllo. its me incase you didnt know who it was. My name is proactive and I am not a alien. I am a fellow human like you. My goal should be to be able to spend more time on my homework. Be present while doing it. So there are days where i'm motivated and not. I gotta get this in my mind. I work when I feel motivated. I don't when I dont feel motivated. What i'm gonna do is try to work when I least feel like it. Build the calluses in my mind. as David goggins says. He motivates me; but is his strategy really the best way for me to conquer school? He does have a point. Just working when you feel motivated won't work. But there is things like happiness. If I spend too much time doing something. I get bored and I don't feel happy doing it. Happiness is correlated with success in school. Well; what we gotta change is the internal stuff. Be happy suffering. Enjoy feeling no motivation. Embrace it. Embrace the negative feelings.Here's a poem a wrote a while ago when I was depressed. Then I embraced the lonliness. The ground is covered in ashes, the grey clouds loom accross the wide open sky. There is nothing, but darkness. But that is okay, because I am darkness now too.

Next time you do it, do it with the intention of your question and the answer will or at least should arise so you don't have to keep going back to the substance because substances can delude you further if you abuse them too much. I abused them all, i am so much better now without substance because i actually started to apply the teachings of what i realized during substances on a daily basis so i never have to go to the substance to feel that way or have those insights again. Of course this is not to say i will never do them again, but i allow them to come from a spiritual calling rather than a mental one so the once in a blue moon i do reconnect with the plant teachers, its a divine marriage and cosmic orgasm that lasts and lasts long after the substance has worn off. MDMA is one of the harder drugs, it should not be used more than once every 3 - 4 months but if it turns into a habit of taking it every 3 - 4 months then you are not really learning anything. Same for all other substances, I prefer mushrooms or DMT as they feel most natural and healing too me. I personally experience low-dose MDMA high almost all the time now that i have stopped using all substances and all chemicals in processed food and over-use of technology in my diet/lifestyle including weed which was masking my natural enlightened state and giving me a false-enlightened state. I will say there was a time where i felt on a high dose MDMA high all the time naturally but i was Alien to everyone else around me and i understood i need to find a more neutral or balanced point to get by with everyone else or else i would have to become a hermit and move away from society completely. Namaste

Leo's recently updated the book list. A new top 5 book in the consciousness, enlightenment & spirituality section mentions that at rare times throughout history aliens have incarnated in human form to aid our evolution in consciousness. Here you have a video of Sadhguru conjecturing that Shiva may have been an alien. (If that doesn't make you laugh I dont know what will lmfao) After seeing this I am much more curious about contacting other dimensional beings+entities. Just some food for thought.

Understandably spiral dynamics is a sufficiently accurate at describing human beings and human evolution. However, what if we encounter an alien species within our universe is found which is incomputable to the spiral dynamics model, and in fact uses a model radically different if such case is possible. Would that be possible?

Any Alien that gets close enough to Earth for us to assess their mental constitution would probably be making a model for us and not vice versa. We are a species that is working toward making ourselves extinct. No one wants our model trust me.

Agreed, we know next to nothing about these creatures and how they fit in to the big picture. The prejudice surrounding the word 'alien' must be made aware of. What makes you assume it's to have a more graspable experience of the fear of the unknown?