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The Metaphysics of Absolute Realism ~First Principle: Defining Reality~ Reality must be absolute. This is not merely an assumption but a necessity for the term to hold any meaning at all. If reality were not absolute—if it were instead relative, subjective, or dependent on individual perception—then it would cease to be reality in any meaningful sense. It would become a shifting, contradictory concept, incapable of providing a foundation for knowledge, reason, or action. To define reality as absolute is to affirm that there is something stable and independent of our perceptions. While individuals may interpret or experience reality differently, the existence of an underlying structure is inescapable. If reality were subjective, then conflicting realities could coexist—meaning something could be both true and false, existent and nonexistent, at the same time. Such contradictions collapse under their own weight. Words and concepts rely on consistency to function. If "reality" referred to something malleable and changing based on perspective, it would lose its coherence. To speak meaningfully about reality, we must recognize it as something distinct from perception—a framework within which perception occurs, but not something defined by it. This is not an abstract concern but a fundamental truth guiding all understanding. Science, logic, morality, and even the simple act of communication depend on an absolute reality. If reality were not absolute, then no knowledge could be established, no truth verified, and no decision made with any real consequence. Therefore, before we build any further philosophical structure, we must first affirm this foundation: Reality is absolute. Otherwise, it is not reality at all. ~Second Principle: Describing Reality~ Just as it is established that reality must be absolute in order to have meaning, we must now recognize that reality must be nondual for the same reason. Duality refers to the idea that there are two fundamental, distinct, and opposing principles that define existence. Common examples include: Mind vs. Matter Good vs. Evil Order vs. Chaos Subject vs. Object In any dualistic system, reality is composed of two separate things that interact but remain fundamentally distinct. This means that neither one is fully absolute, because each is defined in relation to the other. For example, “light” is only meaningful in contrast to “darkness.” Since we’ve established that reality is absolute, we must now ask: Can something absolute be dual? The answer is no, and here's why: Duality Implies Limitation — if reality were dual, then each part of the duality would be limited by the existence of the other. Consider the common duality of light and darkness. These two concepts are typically seen as opposites, yet they define each other by their relationship. Light only has meaning in contrast to darkness, and vice versa. If there were no darkness, there would be no need for light to be distinguished or understood. Likewise, without light, there could be no meaningful concept of darkness. In this way, light is limited because it is only defined in relation to darkness. Its existence depends on the presence of its opposite. Dualities like light/darkness, good/evil, or subject/object create a dynamic where each half is incomplete without the other. The two are intertwined and dependent on each other for meaning. Each side is limited by the fact that it must relate to the other. Neither side can be fully itself without its counterpart. Now, if we apply this logic to absolute reality, we see that something truly absolute cannot be defined by contrast. Absolute reality cannot be dependent on or limited by anything else. If reality were dual, it would need its opposite to define it, which would limit its completeness and independence. Duality implies limitation because the two parts of a duality are mutually defining, relying on each other to make sense. For something to be absolute, it must stand alone—independent, without needing another part to define its nature. This is why duality can’t fit within the concept of absolute reality. Duality Requires Relation — and the absolute is not relative. In order for there to be two fundamental things, they must be defined in relation to each other. But reality, being absolute, is not relative to anything. It simply is. Duality is the existence of two distinct, opposing, or complementary principles. To be dual means there are two entities or forces that define each other through their difference. These two parts, while distinct, rely on each other to create meaning. They cannot exist independently because they are defined by their relationship to each other. If we claim that reality is absolute, we are asserting that it is singular, unified, and independent. It cannot be split into parts that are dependent on one another for meaning or existence. But duality inherently relies on the relation between separate things, and that goes against the idea of absoluteness. If there are two distinct aspects of reality, they cannot be absolute because they rely on each other to be meaningful. Each side of the duality would be dependent on the existence of the other, implying that they are not self-contained or independent. This creates a paradox because absolute reality cannot depend on anything else for its existence. It simply is—complete and indivisible. Hence, dualities, which require relation and interdependence, cannot apply to an absolute reality. Let’s consider a simple example, like motion vs. rest. These are dualistic concepts. Motion is defined by the absence of rest. Rest is defined by the absence of motion. But in an absolute reality, if it were ever to truly exist in a state of complete "rest" (no movement at all), there would be no need for the concept of motion. Similarly, if everything were in motion, rest would have no meaning. The two depend on each other to even exist as ideas. This interdependence shows how duality is rooted in a relational framework. A Truly Dual Reality Would Mean Two Realities, Which is Contradictory — If reality consisted of two fundamental, independent things, then neither would be the whole of reality and each would only be part of it. This means there would be something greater than both that unifies them, making the two parts not fundamental after all. When we say that duality involves two realities, we're speaking about the fundamental separation of the two components that make up the whole. In dualistic systems, the two parts are distinct from each other and define each other through contrast. This separation leads to the idea that reality, as a whole, isn’t a singular entity but is instead made up of two co-existing but distinct elements. Descartes argued that reality is composed of two separate substances: the mind (non-material, thinking) and matter (material, extended). These two substances are distinct, meaning that they don’t merge into a single unified reality but exist independently. Now, this creates an issue: if reality is fundamentally divided into two separate substances (like mind and matter), then each of these substances must have its own independent existence to maintain their distinction. That’s where the concept of "two realities" comes in: Mind as one reality—a non-material, thinking realm. Matter as another reality—a physical, material realm. For Descartes, these two "realities" interact, but they are still distinct from each other. Each one exists on its own terms, with its own nature, and they only come into contact through specific interactions. Why Does This Imply Two Realities? In a dualistic system, the fact that the two substances (or principles) are distinct means that each exists on its own terms. They are not unified into one absolute reality but are separate. Therefore, what we're dealing with is two fundamental aspects of reality that could, in theory, exist separately from one another. If both mind and matter are considered to be fully real and separate from each other, we now have two coexisting realities: One that exists in the realm of thought and consciousness (mind). One that exists in the realm of physical existence (matter). These two realities are not unified into one absolute, indivisible reality—they are simply two aspects of an overarching system, but not a system that can be described as a unified whole. This is why we refer to it as “two realities” rather than just one. In Contrast: The Nondual Absolute Reality Now, if reality is absolute then it couldn't be divided into two distinct realities because: An absolute reality is all-encompassing — it must be unified, complete, and indivisible. If we divide it into two realities, we’re implying that neither reality is whole on its own; they each need the other to define their existence. But if reality is truly absolute, there must be no dependence on something else to define it. Duality creates an inherent contradiction—since each "reality" would need to be independent, the very notion of "reality" becomes fractured and inconsistent, because there would be no underlying unity to connect the two. Therefore, in order to have a true reality, one that is truly absolute, it must be described as nondual: any apparent duality must be secondary, arising within the one absolute reality rather than being fundamental to it. Reality must be nondual otherwise it ceases to be absolute and thusly ceases to be reality at all. ~Third Principle: Determining Reality~ The fundamental question in philosophy concerns the identity of reality itself. What is reality? What is its true nature and essence? The goal is to uncover this true identity — the very foundation of all that exists. This inquiry aims to determine the identity of reality and understand its true essence. A significant problem arises when considering the nature of reality: If reality is defined as absolute and described as nondual, why does the experience of separation persist in everyday life? Individuals perceive themselves as distinct entities, separate from one another and the world. This apparent separation contradicts the concept of reality as absolute and nondual, creating a paradox. How can the nondual nature of reality coexist with the perception of fragmentation and individual selves? This is the central problem to address. The source of this paradox lies in consciousness — the faculty of experience. Consciousness generates the illusion of separation by presenting experiences as distinct and individual. Through consciousness, individuals perceive themselves as separate from the world around them, the appearance of separation is emphasized, obscuring the deeper interconnectedness of all things. Therefore, consciousness is responsible for the appearance of separation, leaving almost no clue into the underlying unity. Given this paradox, it becomes evident that there is a need for a fundamental uniting principle that transcends the appearance of separation. This unifying principle must connect all things in the deepest sense and resolve the fragmentation caused by consciousnesses. The search is for a uniting principle that bridges the gap between the perception of separation and the true nature of nonduality. The Uniting Principle In the search for this uniting principle, awareness emerges as a key concept. Awareness is the capacity to know — the essential foundation that makes all experience possible. Awareness is not bound to individual consciousnesses but is a universal presence that underlies all knowing. It is the constant capacity for knowing that transcends individual boundaries and connects all experiences. Because awareness is universal, it connects all beings and all experiences. It is not localized to any particular individual or form but exists as the foundational capacity for knowing that transcends distinctions. This universality makes awareness a natural candidate for the uniting principle of reality. While awareness is nondual in nature, it remains passive. Awareness simply exists as the capacity to know. It does not actively direct itself; it is the background condition for knowing to occur. Awareness, although foundational to all experience, does not explain the dynamic nature of existence. As a passive, unmanifested presence, awareness alone cannot be the ultimate identity of reality. It is, however, a necessary condition for experience to arise. To understand what drives awareness, the concept of caring is introduced. Caring is the active force that directs awareness — the impetus for awareness to focus on something. Without caring, awareness would have no object to focus on, and thus no reason to direct itself. Caring provides the motivation for awareness, giving it direction and purpose. Without caring, awareness would remain passive and undirected, without any manifestation of experience. Caring is the necessary condition for awareness to be realized as a directed force. It is through caring that awareness becomes active, manifesting as attention and focu Caring and awareness are inherently inseparable. The existence of one requires the existence of the other. Without awareness, there is nothing to care for, and without caring, there would be no reason for awareness to exist. Together, caring and awareness form the foundation of all experience, and they are two aspects of a single, nondual essence. This inseparability reveals that the experience of separation is ultimately illusory. The fundamental reality is the unity of caring and awareness, an essence that connects all things and transcends any apparent differences. The Identity of Reality At this stage, it becomes clear that caring and awareness are not separate forces but rather two aspects of the same essence. This essence is identified as Spirit. Spirit represents the nondual essence that encompasses both caring and awareness. It is the active principle of caring and the passive capacity of awareness, united in a single, indivisible being. Spirit is the underlying beingness that animates reality, the source from which all things arise. It is the true identity of reality — the foundation of all existence. The term Spirit has long been used to describe the immaterial essence that animates and connects all life. In this context, Spirit represents the nondual essence of both caring and awareness, the unifying principle that transcends all separation. Conclusion Through philosophical inquiry, it is now evident that the true identity of reality is Spirit — the nondual essence of both caring and awareness. This identity resolves the paradox of separation, as Spirit is the fundamental unifying principle that connects all things in reality. The identity of Spirit is consistent with the first two principles: Reality must be absolute, and Spirit is absolute in its nature, encompassing all experience. Reality is nondual, and Spirit is nondual, transcending any sense of separation. Thus, the true identity of reality is Spirit, and through this understanding, the appearance of separation is reconciled with the ultimate, unified essence of all that exists.
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Aaron p replied to Santiago Ram's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Christianity is a massive trap. I mean it's a good thing for many many many people like h addicts and stuff...or people who literally can't govern themselves without dipping into chaos or destruction. It's a very good dumb handle to hold onto if the only other option is destination-fucked, but the same person could easily use Buddhism to hold onto and would be probably better off. A lot closer. I was born and raised into Christianity and studied it at incredible depths as a child and young adult. Honestly I love it, but only because I'm skilled enough to know how to interpret it. It lead to a lot of problems in my life. My family didn't have any real world help, all they were taught was "sing to jesus" and you'll go to heaven...which resulted in mass chaos and pain in my family. The real world requires a real religion. A religion that is wayyyyyyy more intelligent, powerful and accurate. A religion that is so powerful that it isint even a religion. I am so fucking glad nonduality and mysticism and enlightenment is real, I'd be fucked otherwise lol. It's a dream come true. When I discovered this...I screamed. Bonus notes: You can check out the books of the apocrypha (catholic scriptures removed by Protestantism), the lost books of eden and Mormonism. Mormonism is interesting. They have a saying: as man is, God once was, as God is, man can become. They also are led by their intuition by something they call "the burning in the belly" or some shit. Also some of the gifts of the holy ghost are legit like prophecy, word of knowledge, word of wisdom and I think speaking in tongues is legit. But it's all subject to massive interpretational inaccuracies, so yeah. Also if you need some Christian half mystic info check out mooji and Andrew wommack. But be warned, wommacks material is highly deluded. Take it with 100 pinches of salt. -
Leo Gura replied to Santiago Ram's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No it isn't. I grew up without any religion and it was the best gift I could have received from the universe. Why do you think my mind is so free? Because it was never corrupted by an human religion. Christianity is child abuse. If evil was actually real, Christianity would be it. That's even worse. This is pure devilry. I know. And I'm saying this is self-deception and corruption. It is absolutely textbook idolatry. Jesus is no more God than a dog is. Worshipping a dog is idol worship. Worshipping Jesus is idol worship. Christians are so deluded that they don't even understand they are doing idol worship. Christianity is a corruption of Judaism. No. The key difference is that I show you guys and force you guys to contemplate and question everything. No one in the world shows you how to question reality more than me. THAT is the proof of the goodness of my teachings. I even force you to doubt nonduality. I even force you to realize I am your own imagination. I even force you to doubt enlightenment. Of course if you ever start to worship me you would have violated everything I ever taught. So that mistake is on you. -
Which video series of Leo's will give me a deeper understanding of nonduality? Would it be the 'Understanding duality' series? Also anyone got any good book recommendations for better understanding?
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Just want to say I love you man. Check out this lovely trip report posted today which touches on what you are moving towards: https://www.reddit.com/r/nonduality/comments/1ja8gr4/i_smoked_bufo_alvarius_5meodmt_died_and_came_back/
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Breakingthewall replied to SQAAD's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's not what I meant. I was trying to analyze and nuance the Tolle spirituality and revealing what in my opinion is a mistake, Tolle has a huge influence on current nonduality. I'd say it's key. Anyway, you don't need to take it like personal, it's a conversation to understand not to win. Sorry if I talk too aggressive about Tolle, I think that his intentions are honest and his message is very useful, I'm talking about his wrong side if you want to totally open yourself . But probably Tolle did more for human spiritual evolution than anyone else alive nowadays Understand that when you see that you have to overcome a barrier you have to break it. -
Breakingthewall replied to SQAAD's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What I mean is that It's not limited; it's essentially wrong. You said above that all spiritual traditions speak of transcending the ego. Let's see, traditions like Buddhism or Hinduism like the Bahavad Gita speak of dissolving the ego barrier to open your consciousness to the unlimited, to the non-self in Buddhism and to Brahman in Hinduism. This is not the same as what Tolle and nonduality say. They say that only the now is real, therefore the ego is not real. This makes no sense because the ego is something that is happening now. Tolle and nonduality tell you to be like an animal, without ego, only sensory perception and instinct, but you are not that. It's a frustrating philosophy that never works. Totally dissolving the social capsule of the ego during certain moments is essential to accessing the realization of your true nature, but you cannot completely transcend the ego, since you would cease to be human and this is impossible; you would be self-repressing an essential part of yourself. The part that communicates, that establishes emotional bonds, that projects, and that modifies reality, and all this implies suffering in more or less extent. Why would you want to do this? To avoid suffering? It's like saying that to avoid having sex, you amputate your genitals. Can you be more egotistical than someone trying to kill their ego? That's the question. Ultimately, I believe that Tolle's philosophy and nonduality are essentially limiting and toxic because they deny the human nature. I would say that anyone who believes in his philosophy and tries to put it into practice will end up frustrated, confused and unhappy. And over all, the most important: closed to the possibility of opening themselves to the absolute. No one of them would get it, because their philosophy closes. The real thing is when you realize that the ego, the external material world, and your true nature are interconnected, completely synchronized, are one. Trying to transcend your ego only locks you into a capsule. True spirituality, as I see it, isn't about transcending, it's about expanding. The ego isn't something you can transcend; it's impossible. You can repress it and thereby isolate yourself further, or you can expand it and realize that your ego is the reality. -
Breakingthewall replied to SQAAD's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The problem with Tolle's message is that it tells you: Right now, at this exact moment, are you in pain, or is something bad happening to you? Not true? So why are you suffering? This is a recurring message in nonduality. The answer would be: You're suffering by mistake; you shouldn't be suffering, since nothing hurts. From this message, it follows that the ego, the mental matrix, is something unreal, and what's real is the body, which can hurt. This is absolutely false; the mental matrix is exactly as real as the body and hurts just as much as the body does. A zebra doesn't have this mental matrix, therefore it doesn't hurt, but a human does. When Tolle says: Look at the crazy things humans have done for something unreal, like the nation! It's something that doesn't exist, and people kill for it. Well, we could say: Look how crazy the crocodiles are, obsessed with eating so they don't die of hunger, when the body doesn't really exist; it's a collection of atoms that will disintegrate sooner or later. Tolle doesn't understand that the mental matrix is a real energetic structure, as real as the body. A new dimension of existence that is evolving at a pace several orders of magnitude faster than the physical. That it isn't something tangible and physical doesn't make it any less real. Tolle and nonduality deny this reality, and that's why they're false philosophies. Not intentionally false, but fundamentally wrong, they propagate a comforting but ultimately false spirituality that doesn't resolve, only numbs, like a drug. -
Leo Gura replied to SQAAD's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Breakingthewall You make a reasonable case. One oversight of simpleton nonduality teachings is that they regard ego as purely an illusion with no reality and no purpose or utility. This is clearly wrong. There is good to be recovered from ego. Like the ego's ambition to have impact in the world. And the ego's handling of material survival needs. But this is not hard to make compatible with Tolle's work. -
My Philosophy ... Introduction to Absolute Realism The End of Abstraction in Philosophy A Manifesto on Nonduality and Direct Reality Philosophy has long been dominated by abstraction — conceptual frameworks that impose distinctions onto reality rather than revealing it as it is. Absolute Realism is a philosophical framework that begins where all others falter: At the direct recognition that reality is nondual and self-evident. It asserts that all division subject and object, thought and thinker, perception and perceiver, is an illusion introduced by abstraction and not by reality itself. This work lays the foundation for Absolute Realism and establishes why it must replace all conceptual and speculative philosophies. The Failure of Traditional Philosophy Since the beginning of philosophy, thinkers have attempted to grasp reality by constructing Systems of Thought — rationalism, empiricism, idealism, materialism, and so on. Yet, all these systems share a fundamental flaw: they introduce duality where none exists. Rationalism assumes that knowledge is built upon concepts, yet concepts themselves are not reality. Empiricism assumes a separation between the observer and the observed, yet this separation is merely a conceptual distinction and is not something found in direct experience. Metaphysical Realism assumes an external world, apart from perception, yet this assumption itself is never directly found — only posited. (The list goes on) Absolute Realism rejects all these approaches by insisting that philosophy must begin and end with direct reality itself, free from interpretation, abstraction or conceptual mediation. The First Principle: Nonduality The primary axiom — or, rather, the only possible foundation — of Absolute Realism is nonduality: Reality is indivisible, and all dualities are imposed by abstraction rather than being inherent to what is. This means that: There is no gap between a thing and the means of its existence (how it exists). There is no separation between perception and perceiver, thought and thinker, experience and experiencer. All attempts to divide reality into subject vs. object, identity vs. other, mind vs. matter, are not found in reality itself — these are composed by abstract thinking. Illustrations of Nonduality To see how nonduality is self-evident, consider the following: The dancer and the dance — is the dance separate from the dancer; is the dancer apart from the movement the dance? The singer and the song — is the song separate from the singer; is the singer apart from the melody of the song? The fighters and the fight — where does one end and the other begin? These distinctions appear only when abstraction tries to separate them. However, it is always clear in the moment of direct experience that they are one. The Rejection of Conceptual Philosophy If all distinctions are imposed rather than real, then any philosophy that begins with definitions, categories, or logical structures is already in error. This means: All conceptual frameworks are distortions. All speculative metaphysics is meaningless. All systems of thought that rely on dualities must be abandoned. A perfect philosophy does not construct — it recognises. Absolute Realism does not seek to build a theory but to reveal what is already undeniably real. Knowledge as Direct Recognition, Not Construction Because reality is nondual, knowledge is not something that is built step by step, nor is it something that can be grasped as an external object. Knowledge is direct awareness of reality itself. To know reality is not to determine and define it, but to recognise it. To know the truth is not to analyse it, but to see how it is self-evident. All indirect knowledge is subject to interpretation and thus is not absolute. Implications of Absolute Realism The End of Speculative Philosophy. All theories that rely on assumed divisions must be discarded. A New Approach to Truth. Truth is not something external to be sought; it is self-evident when abstraction is removed. The Dissolution of Duality in Thought. All knowledge that depends on separation is inherently false. The only real knowledge is unity. Conclusion: The Only Real Philosophy Absolute Realism is not a theory — it is the principle of direct realisation of what is as is. Any philosophy that does not begin with reality itself is, free from conceptual division, is already a lost abstraction. The task ahead is clear: Philosophy must abandon all conceptual dualities. Truth must be recognised, not constructed. Reality must be understood as indivisible, direct, and whole. Only when we discard abstraction can we finally see what has always been real. This is the principle of direct realisation.
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Any ideas? Was it because he was so stuck in his mind and so attached to theorizing? Or what? Surely he must've known about it, he has studied (whatever that meant to him) all kinds of spiritual traditions. But he said they didn't show him what he was looking for, until he found psychedelics. But why is it then that I can't even find a single talk where he speaks of nonduality? And trust me, I've listened to everything...? I know that he wasn't very interested in spirituality as such to begin with, but still - you can't tell me that in 30 years of doing high doses of psychedelics he never experienced oneness/nonduality. I remember in one of his talks he spoke of enlightenment as "an act of rational apprehension"... So yeah. Guess he didn't study spirituality very deeply. Side question for @Leo Gura how much influence did Terence McKenna have on your relationship with psychedelics?
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@Rising Spirit Love that! I really want to be as clear and concise as possible as I am well aware of the difficulty for some to comprehend nonduality. A "provocative invitation" -I love that, anything more than that seems almost impossible for a little 45 minute talk.
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There’s a certain practicality of skepticism and surety in one’s own worldview to ever progress on the path really as these are all normal, sensate and transient bundles of sensations pointing to something more primary than sensations which is the nature of what the holon of human vs. god vs. nonexistence vs. not thinking about a moonwalking bear vs. you reading this right now… we’ll forget everything I just said. It’s all gone. The aspect of fresh present ness is now ruined by the CONTINUITY of it in a formless mind state. You are so much desire and aversion that the friction created by your most fundamental investigation creates an illusion harder than any truth that does or doesn’t last in time as a defined thing. Haha. Wtf.
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In all honesty, my spiritual journey actually began as a boy. An accidental near-drowning gave me a NDE and an OBE that changed my views forever. Granted, as viewed from a child's perspective. But after imbibing LSD in 1977, I learned the power and illumination of sacred medicines. This naturally, led to my fascination for Yogic philosophy and practices. Yes, to this day I credit psychedelics with giving me a taste of Samadhi. But honoring the spiritual paths and bringing their teachings into my day-to-day existence has become secondary nature. And when speaking before an assemblage as you will be, my advice is to be as clear and concise as possible. Few lay persons can comprehend nonduality nor the living Spiritus, given their proclivity towards factual reasoning. Therefore, it's best to present your talk as not neccussarily being a "sermon" rather, a provocative invitation and as succinctly as you can. I feel that there is a definite science to enlightenment/ spiritual awakening and as such, there is a lot of ground to cover. Play it as rooted and clear headed as you can. Namaste 🙏
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salvation___________ replied to itsadistraction's topic in Off-Topic: Pop-Culture, Entertainment, Fun
@Leo Gura This is the music I'm sure you've been looking for, as I was. This is the music you were talking about in this Blog Post about Metaphysical Music. I reccommend you to listen to the album "Utopia" by the artist Björk, here's a link to the full album. It is very experimental and avant-garde, and it is themed around a utopian isalnd in the sky with mutated birds and plants and people. The sounds sound design is very extra terrestial and phsyical. The majority of the lyrics (make sure to read them while listening) are about topics like metaphysics, universal love, submission to the universe, God (even though not explicitly), consciousness, and spirituality. In terms of content and sound it's the most directly spiritual, metaphysical and transcendental music or piece of art I've ever consumed (and therefore my favorite). I never wrote a blog post before but I did for this because everytime I listen to Utopia I think of all the nondual teachings and about your channel. I know music is not your main thing, but I know your content and nonduality very well and I can assure you with 100% certainty that if you take one hour of your day to listen to it you will be shocked at this music. My favorite songs from it that showcase what I described are "The Gate", "Utopia", "Body Memory", "Claimstaker", "Saint", and "Future Forever".Thats it from me, it would be nice if you let me know what you think of it in case you do listen to it. -
Ive gotten into Sri ramana maharshi and h9s teachings lately. nto I can quote the greates yogis and could explain it well with pretty words to others if I wanted to. Ive read the books. Blah blah it all does me no good really. How can reality not be a subject-object reality? I am thinking to much I know but I havent been able to think about anything else for a few days. What is my sense of self than? My sense of self doesnt fit in with this at all. And this sense of seld is undeniable even when deep in meditation... On the bright side, I am motivated to start a kriya yoga practice now which i have been procrastinating about for months.
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I just truly discovered this notion of "wholeness", "unity" or "oneness" from non-duality. This idea is very frightening for me.. because it collapses my experience of reality. Awareness is all that there is.. every other thing is a mind-created concept So, Non-Duality is awareness itself. There is no separation of ego/thought or object/subject. Precisely because experience is all it Is.. and experience IS consciousness. There is no experiential state if there is no awareness, therefore "being" is all there truly is. This is without having this "I" that is assumed to be doing the experiencing. For some this mystical ego-transcendence is beautiful, because of the divine nature of it(How this pure state of awareness feels). And also because it is the ultimate truth. It is the true nature of nature. Duality is the greatest enemy to non-duality (Obviously). But get this, in order to reach non-duality you MUST purge the duality of the mind. So, having a firmly dualistic mind will not comprehend this in any way. Because non-duality is experienced, it is not known by a rational explanation. For the explanation of it is dualistic in nature, because language is dualistic and always implies separation. People engage in meditation to reach this perceptual change of awareness. My biggest fear is knowing that everything I have experienced up until now has been an illusion. A product of the mind's intrinsic tendency to dualism. Everything seems false, nothing is real. Truth is just one. Up until now my philosophical "truths"(Or any thought of that matter) have been dualistic. So, I reach some sort of existential crisis or nihilistic crisis in nature. Not only that, but all of my dreams, hopes, my personal realizations are far from truth. Any meaning becomes meaningless. It is not worth living for something at it is just a concept, a construct of the mind that separates me and true reality. In a crude way, it is all fake. I can't even think without separation so it troubles me more. I think the most terrifying thing is looking out into space and realising that that for the most part.. is reality - this yawning near-void filled with things that would kill you. Here we are.. little fragile Flatlanders hugging the increasingly disordered surface of one planet.. with the yawning hungry cosmos poised to take us all back.
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what is non duality? and what is it's use in Sprituality? is non dual means good and evil are one? what non dual teaching conclude? and how non dual is non dual? we know we are one with the soul but we are different in sprit too. so which positions we take? dual or non dual?
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thedoorsareopen posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I thought disciplined meditation would train my mind to be quiet, but I’ve found there is no such thing as that. On this level, the brain truly is just an appearance in the dream world. What seems to determine the focus or lack thereof of my mind has more to do with which ancestor or entity I’ve had in my aura lately, and how many stressors are appearing in my 3D reality. But over the past year I’ve had experiences of meditating on nonduality for 4 hours, then getting up and seeming to fall right back into a thought form of agitation. Similarly I’ve gone without meditation and reached very calm clear states of mind after a run or an orgasm. It frustrates me that there seems to be no progressive way to train and discipline my mind, it’s just one more appearance in the dream world, of which my control over is only illusory. Anyone else have this experience, oh fellow appearances in the dream world? -
thedoorsareopen replied to thedoorsareopen's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Started with nonduality, meditating on I Am. Have done a lot of heart chakra meditation. I learned Vipassana at the retreat I went to. Working my way thru the Gateway Tapes and have experimented with Carlos Casteneda’s techniques. Pranayama, energy work, a lot of chakra work, plus mantras. Starting to work with the Violet Flame and the spiritual rays now. -
You can only get close to it. When duality stops existing, experience cannot occur. Consider a dream of a beach. The very moment you see the beach you are localized at some point within it, and there is an appearance of duality. If duality ceased, it would be impossible for you to see the beach at all because seeing is an experience, and experience creates experiencer and duality. When there is no appearance of duality there is only everythingness which = nothingness as above. That nothingness is the same state entered during general anaesthetic. We don't come "out of" nothingness and "go back" into it (there is nowhere to come out of or go to), we are all currently as we speak in a state of something like general anaesthetic. That is the ground, the foundation. We are always nothing, but something appears, and when that something appears duality appears and then it is possible for there to be an experience of something, and thus an experiencer. Who is looking through your eyes, hearing through your ears? The Absolute ("God") is. Not you AND God. Just God. You are an illusion, there's no such thing as a "you". There is only God. Where are your dead loved ones? Your dead loved ones are looking through your eyes. They are God, and so are "you". What you call "you" is merely something God experiences, God tastes with your tongue, feels your emotions, smells with your nose. God experiences your brain and hence your memories and body and so on. All of these things are inside of God and made of God... How could God possibly create something outside of itself or with anything but itself? There is no space so nowhere else to place anything. There is nothing else in existence so it can only craft something with itself. There is nothing else at all.
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I remember when Leo first started going into spiritual topics, this was I think 2018 or 2019, and I was at the right place and time to go full on into that journey with him, not knowing what I would find. It was all new to me, I thought nonduality was this radical concept. I thought I'd discovered some secret of the universe. I thought that getting into spirituality would make me smarter, more in tune, closer to a supreme intelligence, possibly even able to discover new knowledge and help improve the world in some way. Instead what I've discovered is that all of the information in my reality is and has always been carefully manipulated at all times to give me certain impressions of things, based largely on my already conditioned beliefs. The world is broken on purpose, because perfection is supposedly boring. In fact, the world is just an appearance and in my human form, I may as well be a cartoon character. And God or whatever was there the entire time, watching every one of my pains. I supposedly deserved them because I didn't learn certain lessons. Because I was making decisions thinking I was a person who lived in a world. I thought I was completely alone and made no impact. I thought my decisions didn't matter and no one was paying attention. I also thought that being polite and following the rules was the best course of action, and boy is every single piece of stimulus in my reality now determined to tell me that is not the case. Has anyone else been dragged into this storyline of how the billionaires are keeping the common man down, and golly we just gotta rise up and restore the natural order of things? I liked society the way it was. I'm not looking for a crash to the system. But I guess I had finally made a life for myself in the secular world I thought I lived in, finally figured out how to stop feeling so much inexplicable emotional pain, so now God's gotta bring the hammer down. I guess every single person I ever saw in my life was also an illusion, but I have seen so many people who had no relationship with God who were healthier than me, more energetic, happier, better teeth, more friends, more laughter, more joy. I'm not sure why I have to be God's bitch boy. I followed a religion, and the people who followed it less strictly than me got rewarded more. So I stopped following it. But I never ended up fitting into secular society much, most of my life I've been a loner. I had good friends, and none of them had any kind of relationship with God, and they also were happier, healthier and enjoyed more and better relationships than I ever did. So then I got into spirituality and over the past 5 years I have seen so many people who have all, day after day, delivered to me the most banal spiritual "advice" while living lives that seem more functional than my life ever has been. No matter what my relationship to God is, it seems I'm always doing it wrong, always on the outs, can never get it together, and everyone around me is just doing so much better than I ever have, without any practice. So is that what this is? God became man so man could sit in a hologram of self-degradation? I'm surrounded by people who don't have to have a meditation practice, who didn't have to invest several years in a "spiritual journey," but have more loving families and better teeth than I ever will? I remember when I started this shit I thought I was gonna get smarter lol... instead I just learned the metaphysical parameters of a clown world. It basically just comes down to squirting love through your diaphragm, and whoever can do that the most, wins, I guess.
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tuku747 replied to strangelooper's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It isn't nonduality itself that is toxic tbh. Grasping the interconnectedness of all things is an important facet of awakening. However, nonduality is sometimes used as a dogma to claim that the self does not exist. It is used to deny the self, and is therefore self-destructive. To truly grasp the interconnectedness of all things, you must realize that it is only through YOU which all things are connected. And YOU are the only master of your own destiny. If your approach is to constantly deny the YOU, then your approach is too passive. If your approach is to deny the YOU in others, then your approach is too aggressive. A balanced approach would be acknowledging both the interconnectedness of the whole and the individual. You would recognize YOU as a vital aspect of the whole, capable of both receiving from and contributing to it. This avoids both the extremes of self-negation and disregard for other-selves, fostering both a sense of agency and responsibility within the individual. -
In Leo's latest video he says God realization is much deeper than nonduality. Leo, I watched the whole video, thank you, but please can you or someone else that knows, say a bit more about the difference between realizing God and fully realizing nonduality. Are people like Adyashanti or Spira not God realized ?
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The Gospel of Thomas is an incredible resource for those who take the nondual path. Many of these sayings are spot on and provide profound insight into his teachings and the religion that spawned around his teachings, how they have become distorted, and how they can possibly be reintroduced. Back in 2017 there was a user on the Actualized forum who wrote a dissection on the various sayings of Jesus as recorded in the Gospel of Thomas.
