Search the Community

I briefly glimpsed an alien consciousness before and I nearly went mad. I came back with the insight that humans have the consciousness we have for a reason. Certain things are not only simply beyond our comprehension.

I see what you mean. You will get a much-expanded consciousness upon leaving the body, but your understanding is still going to be additive to what your understanding was prior to it. Similar to how everyone experiences psychedelic trips based on their "current" level of consciousness and interpretations. And so that's why the work you do here (internally) to expand consciousness will have a great impact "on the other side". If your goal is to not return , then yeah you have to do more work here (eg, one being releasing attachment to the world of forms, fear of God, etc), otherwise you will likely return to form to continue the journey. But also like I was saying many beings "return to form" just for fun/love etc (but doing so knowing who they truly are). Like that "alien mouse" for instance lolz.

@BartekD Ayahuasca is beautiful It's been my main psychedelic so far and it has been very patient. It has no limit on where it can take you. I've done Ayahuasca for several weeks straight, every day, and plan to do it again. But, I have to resettle my brain as I was trending too deep. My goal now is complete understanding and realize all aspects of myself as God and how far I can go in a human body without cracking my brain - as a brain is an infinite mind and has no limit but still has a limit in a human body. God also appears to love splitting itself into infinite pieces, as well as infinite finite pieces - in which I had insight into Infinity of Pure Minds, which is another aspect of God loving and experiencing itself as a sovereign God. It can also experience other sovereign Gods to experience radically different aspects of itself. But, since it's pure, the human body needs to deplete its impurity to experience it fully to realize itself as God. This is also a direct realization of the Infinity of Gods and I haven't watched the video fully until now and understand completely the sovereignty of Gods. This also opens up other radical aspects of God, because what are those other Gods imagining and penetrating into? Is it alien consciousness? or other radical aspects of itself? or what are the other aspects of yourself that you haven't experienced yourself? It also appears that other Infinity of Pure Minds can experience other Gods and intertwine their other infinite realizations of itself. Ayahuasca can bring all of it to you - purity and directness. But, it may test other aspects of yourself that you haven't fully touched on and it may be daunting. For me, it was dark consciousness. Because, how can I be God and not love all aspects of myself? How can you be in fear and be God Realized? Because where there is fear, there is god realization! So, why not be fearless? The goal is to experience as much as you can and can handle - at your own pace of infinity. But, at least you don't have to meditate or do yoga for it >:)

There is an Alien Mouse inside that skull, no brain.

For me I can only speak for myself. Because I barely stand to be here as it is I got some bad news for ya: ego death will not actually free up your consciousness to reach the highest levels. Ego isn't the only issue here, and far from the most important factor. Your human life places the most severe limits on Consciousness. Even if you removed 100% of the ego, as a human your consciousness will still be very low. Egoless humans are not that conscious. The point of physical death is that it eliminates the restrictions of being human. You can't be as conscious as an alien when you're stuck in a human meat suit.

@Leo Gura Can you elaborate on the entire universe being a molecule within an alien God-mind? Do you mean a literal entity (since you mention it being on a higher dimention), or just God itself? I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at and I don't want to carry around the wrong idea in my mind. This reminds me of something I heard Matt Kahn said a while back about the "History of Consciousness": (starts around 9:20) Though obviously I haven't verified this "story" and it is one way of looking at it from potential other ways. All this alien talk also gave me another "alien God" awakening today while driving.. I felt like some "alien God" visiting this planet and a completely foreign entity, though the feeling of "Egyptian" also came. Words don't do it justice though the amount of Godliness that was there.

I like the insights about alien love. That makes a lot of sense to me. There is so many accounts of alien consciousness contacting humans in channelled states and it's so clear that they're way more advanced in so many degrees and dimensions. I'm going for alien love on my next trip.

@Bob Seeker you can transform your brain too with a lot of 5 meo and malt trips. He might be sensitive but I know two people who are even more sensitive to psychedelics than him so this Sensitivity is not very special, but this alien mind thing is indeed

A Cry Into the Void I sense that RADICALLY different ways of being / comprehension / feeling, etc. are possible. Completely different from all this human stuff. Absolutely new “worlds”, “creatures”, “feelings” – Gosh, even these concepts are not necessarily absolute. NO CONCEPTS ARE! There doesn’t have to be suffering, pleasure, humans, planets, fear, idea of death, mind, thought, feeling, pointers such as God, Truth, Infinity, Love, Beauty. All of this is what’s HERE, but it wouldn’t have to be the case in an utterly new experience. And there must be an INFINITY of such new experiences! Last week I set an intent to really go beyond all concepts and reach PURE BEING. I wanted to BE. But I just couldn’t overcome my limited way of perceiving the world and the awakening was framed in a human way. Words like “Dream”, “Fantasy”, “God”, “nothing”, “Being”. ALL OF THIS IS CONCEPTS! That which is being “pointed to” (foolishly) has nothing in common with any of these words and ways of understanding. I am dissatisfied with all human teachings. Even Leo’s! Let’s take this pointer for example: https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-004 This is based in concepts of morphing, a flamingo, sitting, a world, caring, being mad. And the cherry on top is the pointer “God”. It’s all human understanding. Another example: https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-011 This is based in concepts like X not being Y, pointer “God”, realization, dream, “all” = everything, carefulness… do You see what I mean? I don’t blame Leo for this of course. I find Leo to be a level above all other teachers anyway. I don’t blame the humans. It’s just that I feel slightly dissatisfied with everything… I cannot formulate a single thought that isn’t of my constrained human comprehension. I can’t do it. I can’t fucking go beyond my programming… but I want to. I want to be SENTIENT! I WANT TO AWAKEN!!!!! (Still concepts…) I wish to experience radically new ways of experiencing, feeling, understanding… Not that there’s anything wrong with this experience, but I feel like there’s more I could go for. I sense that it CAN be done… and if it can, then why not do it? I’d want that. I feel sad. It’s only a hunch I have, I am not sure about all this… I just feel like there’s more, I feel like I could be more. I still have stuff to do here but right now I look at it and it’s boring. I don’t feel like this all the time of course, in fact this is the first time this is happening. I wanted to note it because I find some meaning in it… It’s a feeling that I sense might accompany me more in the future and drive me forwards. Is this not accepting what IS? Am I a fool for wanting this or is this Intuition speaking? I don’t know. I feel like it’s Intuition, but how can I be bored of all this so soon…? I haven’t yet had as deep awakenings as I could with this human comprehension and I’m racing to go beyond it already? I don’t know… Why am I not appreciating this beauty around me? Maybe I’m stupid. Or maybe, just maybe this intuition is pointing me to some wonderful, shocking and sanity-shattering possibility that is really what I’ve been working towards with all I’ve done so far? Maybe. I don’t know. Guess I have to be patient for now… I’ll see how life unfolds. This is what I wrote yesterday at 2 am. It was sincere. I don't feel this way right now but yeah... I really feel like there is so much more here for "me". I want to explore IT. I'm thinking that I might really make use of Leo's new course on Alien God. It seems like this is what I'm kind of looking for? Although I think I still have a reaaaally long way with "ordinary" awakening.

I don't see anything alien about it. Eliminating all defilements of the ego and experiencing pure primordial womb of existence minus all influence whatsoever is classic buddhism 101.

Whats funny is what he calls alien consciousness is formless consciousness. It is not human consciousness. It is consciousness minus the human. So from that perspective, sure, it's alien.

How far do you think it is possible to understand? Will that alien be a molecule of another alien and so on to infinity, or is there a limit?

You don't know what I know. Consider the possibility that I have been more conscious than any Buddhist you know. Of course I'm not gonna prove it to you. No. It's hard to even access on psychedelics. Requires some very serious tripping. Accessing alien consciousness is something wild. People have no idea it is even possible.

Can you access alien intelligence in sober states? Atleast in some parts ?

There is at least an order of magnitude difference between human Awakening and alien Awakening. It's like the difference between a mouse and human in order of understanding and intelligence. What does a mouse understand about reality? Well, likewise the human. An advanced alien intelligence is much closer to God than a human. A human hardly understands anything about God or Consciousness. I don't even take human intelligence seriously at this point. The best human intelligence is trash. It's mouse-level understanding. At this point I am only interested in trans-human intelligence and consciousness. I don't care what humans think, want, or do. It's all nonsense, whether it is material or spiritual in nature. I have recently been able to access trans-human levels of Consciousness which I was in before I was born as a human. That's the kind of Consciousness I'm interested in. It's 10x to 100x more conscious than the most conscious humans. It's conscious in dimensions which humans can't even imagine.

That is interesting, I dunno what to make out of it we are fundamentally doing the same as humans, even if it looks very backwards, this is what many developed humans strive for. Although the insights is very interesting. I've seen different types of explanations, so I am presonally unsure if this is archetypal phenomenon, as barely any "buddhist" would teach it and I only had a tiny experience of it on NN-DMT as it was to intense for me, it legit invited me which was to much and I did not feel like I had enough room to let go and join, and I've seen mostly the DMT stuff about it with similar kinds of reports mostly about energy and matter, not intelligence. Like "jesters" playing with balls of energy to generate matter and energy stuff like this. Also this "alien" type energy, it was like someone legit digitized my brain with a chip of aritfical intelligence stemming from an DMT alien. It was way to intense and I am super-sensetive, I just tried the new inhale technique and whoop. Like how entities generate energy and dark matter or some other type of energy and other types of stuff which are 4-5Dish apparently, I am not a physicsist, so I dunno how that dimension works in terms of it's properties for a mechanistic understanding. What is the difference of a buddhist loving-kindness methaphysical love experience and metaphysial love? Is it also not a tool & principle that generates the same outcome, even if it is not as effective as MDMA for example as well as even falling in love with a single human, that let's you love all humans more deeply. Even if that is selective. What is metaphysical and what are the qualties of it? Is the question to reductionistic? We'd move into metaphysical love no? And not reduce it to smth. It's more like union and oneness?

@Leo Gura you keep mentioning alien, but what’s the difference between alien and human in absolute truth? How is alien any closer to God than human. Both are forms in relative truth.

I'm not really interested in emptiness. Of course it's a facet, but it's so obvious and rudimentary it's uninteresting to me. I'm more interested in, for example, realizing that your entire life is just a dream within God's Mind. And then understanding what this God's Mind is up to. Have you even considered what the movement of Consciousness is for? Why are you dreaming? Why are you human? For what purpose? For example, I've become conscious that our entire universe is just a molecule within an alien God-Mind that exists on a higher dimension, which is using all the conscious experience of the universe to fuel it's own intelligence process, in order to understand itself deeper and accessing ever higher categories of metaphysical Love. No Buddhist has a clue about such things. What no Buddhist understands is that Consciousness is engaged in a process of ever-deeper self-understanding and Intelligence. The movement of the whole universe is there to raise the universe's intelligence of itself, in order to achieve Omniscience. There are dimensions of Consciousness so advanced and so alien that no human can even begin to imagine it. None of these things are understood by Buddhists or nondualists. Does your Buddhist understand what alien consciousness is? No! He has no clue. Does your Buddhist understand what Love is? No! Not even a little. At best he has some crap human idea of Love. That's not any kind of proper understanding of what LOVE is metaphysically.

Hehe.... It's way more than pure practice. It is an entire worldview and not only that, it will actually prevent you from reaching the highest levels of Consciousness. You will not reach God-Consciousness via any kind of reductive system like Shinzen's. Consciousness is non-reducible. You cannot understand God by breaking your field of experience down into pieces and chunks as Shinzen attempts to do. This is the mistake of materialism all over again in the guise of Buddha's authority. Judge for yourself, but what I'm saying is that cessation has nothing to do with Awakening. Have as many cessations as you want, in the end you will still not understand God. Cessation != understanding. And nothing beats understanding. You should not trust any human. Seek the truth independently for yourself. Consider all these humans are just tricksters testing you with traps and games. Your job is to outwit them all, not to subscribe to any one. As soon as you stop thinking independently, you fail. - - - - I am working on a course that will once and for all explain how to reach God Consciousness and completely deconstruct Buddhism, Vedanta, nonduality, and absolutely all human spiritual teachings. Until you reach Alien God Consciousness, Insanity, and Infinite Kinds of Love, including Alien Love. And ultimately Omniscience.

is cholesterol bad or is systemic inflammation the issue... an alien studying car crashes from 30,000 feet might conclude that ambulances cause car crashes because they are usually found at the site Also carbs seem to be necessary.

@Kksd74628 I do see the points, it's just that I have to lower myself down, from my alien levels of development, to talk to you and @Juan in a simplified manner. No, qualitatively speaking, Tik Tok and meditation are mostly different fundamentally. With meditation, you are actively intent on 'letting go' of thoughts, 'observing' thoughts, 'mindfulness with labelling' or other mindfulness types of meditations, transcendental meditation, and other meditation techniques that are mainstream friendly or hardcore fringe. Most mediation requires the participants to actually be active in them and be both focused and intentional, meanwhile with Tik Tok usage it's mostly designed to encourage passivity and brain rot, makes you think less and develop cognitive retardations, immoral beliefs and inappropriate behaviors that because of curating and higher volume is made normal, higher increases of neurosis and Narcissism due to auto image filters that make you more 'handsome' or more 'beautiful' or have 'lighter skin colour', proliferate immature behaviors and opinions, create and maintain ideological echo chambers and maintain Incels and doomer mentalities, limit life experiences and life exposures like travelling and interacting with people face to face. I also find it asymmetrical to compare mediation, a sub set of spiritual development, to Tik Tok, a subset of technological development gone wrong. Improper comparison, but also disingenuous. As much as I am moderate and centrist on some issues, for this specific one I'm lopsided against Tik Tok and supportive of regulations that restrict Tik Tok. I refuse to be a passive culprit that encourages Tik Tok to ruin the youth's brains to the point of hyper ADD/ADHD and foolishness, and I can't remain neutral and agnostic to the obvious harms it has for mental health, so, Tik Tok either must be restricted more, or, banned.

@Inliytened1 I'm not sure. Perhaps it's not possible to achieve freedom while being in a physical form. The joy and freedom I have experienced during my OBE's is so incredible. Coming back to the this dense reality was always very challenging. Why would I choose this when there are so many other options? I'm not sure. I haven't discovered the answer yet. It reminds me of one of Leo's recent posts where he became an alien mouse. He said nothing would give him more joy then to remain in the state of the that alien mouse, but here is is back being very limited human Leo with all his challenges? Why? Who is doing the choosing?

I think it's co-created. But by different kinds of minds. Which is why you hear about "alien Gods". You can be that "alien God" too one day. Yes death is most likely fully your own will (that you may not be conscious of).

These octopuses are completely bizarre and alien looking to me, and they are also quite intelligent. Blows my mind

@puporing Everything is imaginary, I get this. But there are solid hallucinations like the life I am experiencing now and there is just some silly hallucinations like if you get a fever and start seeing things. So how to know if there is really an entity that has a POV and has consciousness or it is just some substance induced hallucinations . I pressured @Leo Gura that day (when he said he experienced being an alien mouse) on this very point and he ended up saying that such things are complicated.