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15 hours ago, Emerald said:I recommend "The Ultimate Guide to Tarot" by Liz Dean. In the beginning part it talks about all the different systems within the Tarot that will really help your readings.
There are suits, numbers, colors, astrological signs, correlation between Major and Minor Arcana cards, etc. Once you know these systems, you can read more intuitively, as opposed to just memorizing the meanings of each card separately (though I do recommend this as well).
@Emerald Thanks, I will check out that book
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@Emerald I have just started getting into the Tarot. I have the Hermetic Tarot deck. Beautiful illustrations. Though I bought it for learning to do Divinations and contemplations specifically, Major Arcana. I will probably get deeper into it as I progress.
Any literature you recommend on the Tarot?
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On 6/10/2019 at 0:07 AM, ajasatya said:@lostmedstudent I did not go to a retreat center. I am part of a Brazilian religious group called União do Vegetal that uses Ayahuasca for self studying purposes. We drink it twice every month.
@ajasatya Interesting. Is this group based on Catholicism like Santo Daime or is it different? What would a typical ceremony look like? If you wouldn't mind sharing.
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Cool. I bought the e-book and started reading the opening pages. Seems very interesting.
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5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:@Schahin But notice that your attitude shows disdain for destruction.
Creation cannot occur without destruction. So by judging or demonizing one, you unwittingly shoot yourself in the foot and reject the large totality of reality.
If you hate any aspect of reality, you are hating yourself, which means you are disconnected from God's Love and your vision is clouded by ego & delusion.
Total enlightenment robs you of the ability to judge reality. Sorry. I know how much you love to hate, but that shit won't fly if you want to reach the highest levels of understanding.
Holy shit, this blew my mind.
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I believe it is much like a good Tarot deck. The cards themselves don't have any meaning, but they become full of meaning to you once you start playing with them and raising your intuition. So they will start having meaning to YOU, in a significant way. It's a sophisticated system that have a lot depth to it due to how much have been experimented with it over time. You could create your own system, but chances are it will be shallow. Hope that made sense. Same goes for numerology probably, but I haven't looked into it so I don't know.
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@Matt8800 Yeah I have no doubt about that. I have seen objects move infront of me aswell. Two noteworthy times were once at a friend. This friend I have known since kindergarten. She actually made a moonharp in school when we were like 7-8 years old. It's now we look back and laugh at how funny and interesting that is. She has always been very special. Anyway, she had an older brother that commited suicide some years ago. I was at her apartment and she was going out to get the laundry. And she had a thing he had painted on the wall. And it bounced from the wall several times. That was less than a month probably after he had died. Another time I was lying in bed and a pet bottle just started moving infront of my eyes. So I guess a clairvoyant would maybe see the actual entity doing these things, right?
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9 minutes ago, Matt8800 said:@kieranperez Im a natural mystic so I dont have psychic sight. Its a telepathic communication that is similar to a knowing. Its hard to explain.
My fiance sees spirits because she is a gifted clairvoyant but cant summon and command like I can. We work together with our talents and it works well.
@Matt8800 But for the servitor you created with the bullhead and horns. Do you see this servitor visually or is that also more of a knowing for you?
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I say both. Listening Bach on DPT are some of the most beautiful experiences in my life. You can see clearly how he constructed the music in a vertical way. Like a master architect but with sound. Can't really describe it with words and it doesn't make sense logically. He was a true mystic.
It's also great to turn of all the lights, lay in bed and be taken. So try both. But go for music done by a true artist.
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48 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:That is correct. What's required is consciousness of God's Will and how this Will can be channeled or directed. It's tricky stuff.
Yes, it's absolutely crucial that you surrender all desire for personal power or personal gain.
My working theory is, personal desires for power will block you from access to the highest power. This is like a safety mechanism to prevent devils from screwing up reality.
Yes, I think so too.
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@Leo Gura Well, if we play with the possibility that humans could get the ability to actually materialize stuff in an instant, right before your eyes, I think they would be so incredibly developed that even having agendas would be absurd. The only reports I have seen of this is basically Jesus and Babaji. And by reports I mean other highly advanced beings that have written or passed on reports about it. Make of it whatever you want, I have no idea, I just find it really interesting. If Babaji existed/exists he could supposedly materialize "physical" structures in an instant. So yeah, it seems that you can go deeper and deeper, and the deeper you go the more power you can attain, maybe even changing "physical reality". That is why I also don't think that simply grasping the emptiness gives you a complete understanding(not even close). It seems that the energy/vibration is where the shockingly mystical stuff is and that's what you want to penetrate deeper and deeper into if you really want to get your full knowledge. It also seems to me like this can be highly seductive and if you are not well equipped you can get lost in this mystery. So I want to go in with humbleness and great respect regarding this, but I definitely want to go in. I want to get as full of an understanding as I can get.
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Swami Vivekananda has written a bit about this in his book Bhakti Yoga. He writes about Ishvara, the creator aspect of Divinity, in one section. Whatever is the case, it's an interesting read.
QuoteIn the fourth Pâda of the fourth chapter of his Sutras, after stating the almost infinite power and knowledge which will come to the liberated soul after the attainment of Moksha, Vyâsa makes the remark, in an aphorism, that none, however, will get the power of creating, ruling, and dissolving the universe, because that belongs to God alone. In explaining the Sutra it is easy for the dualistic commentators to show how it is ever impossible for a subordinate soul, Jiva, to have the infinite power and total independence of God. The thorough dualistic commentator Madhvâchârya deals with this passage in his usual summary method by quoting a verse from the Varâha Purâna.
In explaining this aphorism the commentator Râmânuja says, "This doubt being raised, whether among the powers of the liberated souls is included that unique power of the Supreme One, that is, of creation etc. of the universe and even the Lordship of all, or whether, without that, the glory of the liberated consists only in the direct perception of the Supreme One, we get as an argument the following: It is reasonable that the liberated get the Lordship of the universe, because the scriptures say, 'He attains to extreme sameness with the Supreme One and all his desires are realised.' Now extreme sameness and realisation of all desires cannot be attained without the unique power of the Supreme Lord, namely, that of governing the universe. Therefore, to attain the realisation of all desires and the extreme sameness with the Supreme, we must all admit that the liberated get the power of ruling the whole universe. To this we reply, that the liberated get all the powers except that of ruling the universe. Ruling the universe is guiding the form and the life and the desires of all the sentient and the non-sentient beings. The liberated ones from whom all that veils His true nature has been removed, only enjoy the unobstructed perception of the Brahman, but do not possess the power of ruling the universe. This is proved from the scriptural text, "From whom all these things are born, by which all that are born live, unto whom they, departing, return — ask about it. That is Brahman.' If this quality of ruling the universe be a quality common even to the liberated then this text would not apply as a definition of Brahman defining Him through His rulership of the universe. The uncommon attributes alone define a thing; therefore in texts like — 'My beloved boy, alone, in the beginning there existed the One without a second. That saw and felt, "I will give birth to the many." That projected heat.' — 'Brahman indeed alone existed in the beginning. That One evolved. That projected a blessed form, the Kshatra. All these gods are Kshatras: Varuna, Soma, Rudra, Parjanya, Yama, Mrityu, Ishâna.' — 'Atman indeed existed alone in the beginning; nothing else vibrated; He thought of projecting the world; He projected the world after.' — 'Alone Nârâyana existed; neither Brahmâ, nor Ishana, nor the Dyâvâ-Prithivi, nor the stars, nor water, nor fire, nor Soma, nor the sun. He did not take pleasure alone. He after His meditation had one daughter, the ten organs, etc.' — and in others as, 'Who living in the earth is separate from the earth, who living in the Atman, etc.' — the Shrutis speak of the Supreme One as the subject of the work of ruling the universe. . . . Nor in these descriptions of the ruling of the universe is there any position for the liberated soul, by which such a soul may have the ruling of the universe ascribed to it." -
4 hours ago, Matt8800 said:@Esoteric Thank you for the kind words
One book on Tantra that I love, and does a great job of putting desire and experience in a healthy and fulfilling spiritual perspective is: Desire - the Tantric path to awakening.
@Matt8800 Yes, I own the book actually but I haven't started it yet. I like Daniel Odier, I will definitely go through his practicial books. I have bought Kreiter's book on the Magnus Opus as well and have taken note on other books you have recommended here. There are just TOO many interesting books to read lol. I am currently going through Michael Donald Kraig's output. And I also want to get deeper into the Kabalah. I am very drawn to the Sephiroht. Books you need tend to naturally present themselves at the right time
This thread is great btw!
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3 minutes ago, mandyjw said:YES, I came across that recently in a Rupert Spira video but had put it out of my mind. There's something feminine about manifestation, a link to giving birth to creation. Tantra is the everything isness side. I'll look it up Shaiva Tantra, thank you! I'm reminded of my humpty dumpty analogy, this understanding awakening stuff is always about pulling pieces from traditions and myths all across the world to put together.
I am deeply fascinated by it, along with traditions that @Matt8800 has brought up. I have done banishing rituals daily thanks to him that are truly life changing for me.
Back to Tantra. It is an amazing tradition that fuses Shiva (the vibrationsless void) with Shakti (energy/vibration). I have not found another tradition that is so incredibly rich and beautiful.
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46 minutes ago, mandyjw said:Is witchcraft and the occult the only modern path that empowers feminine spiritual power? There are a bunch of things clicking into place now. It's almost hilarious and a bit unsettling. I saw through this defense during my awakening but I put my old beliefs back in place to keep myself safe.
The tantric path also empowers the feminine. And no it is not about sex, there are some rituals that were about sex and this was packaged and marketed in the west as that. So here, when you hear the word Tantra you make associations to sex. Just like when you hear Yoga you think about stretching poses.
Look up Shaiva Tantra. Tantra Illuminated by Christopher Wallis is a great book about this old tradition. Of course this tradition has been demonized in the east as well because of what you bring up in your post. From what I understand tantrics are seen as weirdos and outcasts in India by the more traditional hindu systems.
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@tatsumaru Ramana had his realization when he was 16 due to his extreme fear of death one night. He got struck heavily by this intense fear and chose to let go and accept death fully (that is the well known story anyway). I think that is what you misunderstood.
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13 hours ago, Aeris said:5 years. Yes I do. I didn't smoked any from october to april. But I was absolutely non productive at an artistic level.
Weed now is the same. I would smoke only at noon and work on other thing the day. My life is very modulated for 'me'.
I worked hard through this addiction but now I don't abuse it and would use it like a drink at noon then go for some series or music production ( 90% it ends doing music )
This week wasn't at home. I smoked one every 3 days.
The secret is not being toxic about doing substances. ( Took me years of work - )
I know a Friend who worked in restaurant while being high all the time and he was very efficient. All my best friends are musicians and adhd.
I would bet on one or two high quality coffee if really I needed 'focus' or physical work. ( And don't do any when not at 'work' )
+ meditation and daily sport. + Curing self story neurosis and false goal identity belief through self inquiry and reading books about others people lifestyle.
@Aeris Alright. Was just curious. I have self-medicated on weed for about a decade myself. It is very likely I have adhd, and I myself play music, lol. Funny how many correlations there are between adhd, creativity, self-medication and weed. I have not smoked for over a month now, but unlike you, I get very hooked. I end up smoking all day.
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@Giulio Bevilacqua Work on sustaining yourself so you can work towards enlightenment all of your free time. There are a lot of ways this can be done. You can do it by working on being financially secured. You can do it by working on being concious and do practices all the time, even in hectic environments. You can become a monk. Volunteer at ashrams etc etc. The list goes on. But listen to what YOU want to do. It is your decision, don't get influenced by people telling "you don't have to do this, you don't have to do that". What they think is a bad way of going about stuff might be an optimal way for you.
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@tatsumaru According to your Zen teacher Ramana feared death post enlightenment? According to my mom your Zen teacher is full of shit.
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2 hours ago, Aeris said:What were you playing ? The black and white heavy GameBoy ?
It's obviously slang for penis. Leo experienced some biblical shit in Mexico. The wrath of God!
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@Jed Vassallo You can go for physical pain. Like sundance rituals or taking on those gloves that has shitloads of bullet ants in them (one bite from one ant is supposedly extremely painful), or sweat lodges etc. There is a reason people put themselves through extreme physical pain, because the spiritual growth is fast. Just throwing out ideas.
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@Aeris For how long have you smoked weed daily? Do you take periods off from weed?
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I haven't done rapé together with shrooms. But I have done it together with ayahuasca and peyote. And as far as calming an Ayahuasca trip down it can be true as far as it will help you purge if something wants to get out on Aya but is stuck. Some Shamans use it during the ceremonies while others don't. The Shaman I have been to uses it before a ceremony, during and after, to those who wants it. He describes it as an opening within the opening. And I hear what he is saying. It can really have profound effects if you accept it in your body together with the other plant medicines. It will make stuff more intense for awhile and it might be uncomfortable if there's people around you. Especially if you're gonna start purging. So my advice would be to do it in a secluded area if you are gonna be outside.