Mikael89

The problem I have with that idea is.. is God really that stupid and limited that He/She has to create suffering? Maybe He/She is. Read my comment above. And I'll also add: why does God need to divide itself and start all siffering and misery and all that hassle? Why not just stay in the awesome Love bliss enlightenment Oneness and jump on fluffy happy clouds for all eternity? Haha Yes I know that. Radical yadda yadda. It still doesn't make sense. ------------------------------- I know you can't grasp this stuff with the mind yadda. It needs to be experienced and yadda. So back to practices I guess. Whateverrrr.

That logic breaks down completely. If there even is any logic. No there actually isn't any. True love would mean this: no torture. And if you mean that somehow, for some weird far fetched reason, torture is a necessity, then I can say this: True love would mean this: no torture. No me. No form.

@Inliytened1 Very loving when someone gets tortured to death etc. Not. "you do not yet know the realm of the Absolute. But you will if you so desire." Not true. Many people fail to get enlightened even if they have the desire.

That's your opinion/feeling. There's billions of people who think that life is a curse.

Incomprehensible answer. But thanks for your attempt I guess.

"There is but one truly serious philosophical problem and that is suicide. Judging whether life is or is not worth living amounts to answering the fundamental question of philosophy. All the rest — whether or not the world has three dimensions, whether the mind has nine or twelve categories — comes afterwards. These are games; one must first answer." - Albert Camus

@Inliytened1 When it comes to this stuff you need all the shortcuts you can get. There is no wonder in pre-enlightenment. This I know for sure.

I don't understand how my comment was negative. I'm simply interested in Truth. I was just pointing out the facts with my comment.

In that case I should be enlightened right now. Because I have already been dead: before I was born. But I'm not. If you are right then everyone should committ physical suicide. Easy and fast way to enlightenment.

Since death doesn't exist.. I don't think you get enlightened just because you die. Unenlightened before death= unenlightened after death. So enlightenment is required Now. "The secret of life is to “die before you die” and find that there is no death." - Eckhart Tolle

What else could I do? Is there something which you don't believe?

I said: "All this is Ultimate Imagination." Which includes avoiding getting whacked by baseball bats, etc. I could be wrong though, but this is what I'm inclined to believe.

This right here is already "death". Can't get any more "dead" than this. You are already "dead" in eternity. All this is Ultimate Imagination. Time too.

I agree with Leo.

"Grow", "transform", "purify", "improve"... Yawn. "Only the conditioned consciousness can evolve or be developed. The natural-supreme-self, can only be discovered." - Mooji Let's see where your improved ego is within 60 years or whatever. I think it will be located either inside a coffin or as ash. So much work/importance to a passing dream. “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.” Matthew 7:24-27