Mikael89

How would a enlightened cashier show you those traits? Nothing. I can't know who is enlightened and who isn't.

I wouldn't count on that.

@Ibn Sina How would you find one? What do you expect them to look like or what do you expect them to say? Should they have a rainbow over them wherever they go? Should they travel on a cloud? Should they tell you that they are enlightened when they see you?

@Ibn Sina You can't know who is enlightened. You might have met a enlightened doctor, cashier, etc. They do exist.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean with "affirmations" in this context? Maybe rephrase it or something. It's ok if someone mentions those things. Yes "put yourself in a good state of mind" is better than "vibrations". That's true, thanks.

@seeking_brilliance 1. Haha Hm, yes, it pretty much goes like that. Except he/she doesn't say "Are you ok? You're sweating" I simply don't talk with people. I don't know what else to say about this. 2. This picture is the only one I like. I would have to take a new one, but I don't think I will do it. 3. Yes I froze up and the conversation ended. Yes she actually heard it, of course, not sure why you ask that. 4. I'm embarrased in front of her. She knows. - - - - - - - I discard all woo-woo stuff like aliens, chakras, other dimensions, vibrations, angel numbers, third eye, starseeds, pineal gland, channeling, healing, etc. etc. But there might be a few other nuggets of truth, and the love stuff makes me feel good. 5. I really don't know if they are a cover up.. 6. That sounds like a good thing. I'll do that. Thanks. - - - - - - - Sorry for giving short answers. I think I did my best..

No I'm not afraid of opening up and talking about myself here. And in reality: there's other problems before that (possible) problem even can occur. Hm, with "personal" I just meant when the discussion is about personal stuff. Yes. "but luckily for you I love being in touch with feelings so I just need you to have an open mind and don't shut me out." Okay, interesting. I don't like my physical appearance that much. But I guess it's ok since girls look at me sometimes etc. I don't really like or hate anything about it. But apparently girls like my eyes etc. Actually.. the only question I ever asked her is "how are you?" Yes. No. Embarrassment. Not everything I share with you is super important. No, that's not what I meant. I wrote the quotation marks because I didn't really know her at all. I laughed. True. We still work at the same company, but we rarely see each other. We work at different times etc. Yes I have. I know. You are right. Good that you are feeling better. I try to love myself, somehow, whatever that means. This loving myself thing is new to me so I'm not good at it yet. I might watch TV, or listen to https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLsAMJ3K8EEvDCPLTGdc4eg ,or meditate, or something. But sometimes I don't do anything. Just wait it out. Yes I were aware of it yesterday before you asked me to look. 30 minutes.

@Strangeloop Wow. Yea. Did that happen after you read the text in this thread? Or did it happen some earlier day? Probably some earlier day, just checking.

Watching her makes me feel a bit better: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLsAMJ3K8EEvDCPLTGdc4eg

Awesome.

1. Not that much, but a bit nervosity and uncomfort. 2. As soon as it becomes a conversation. Especially when it gets personal. 3. I don't really know anything about relationships. I can't see how it could be possible to have a girlfriend without being friend with her. Look at even the word "girlfriend": "friend" is already within the package. But I have never had a girlfriend and haven't had a friend in my adult life so I have no idea about these things. I don't have any experience. 4. Yes I can see how it would limit the prospects. Well, we can go for the third option: work on making friends and work on being happy alone. 5. Well.. sometimes I asked her just a few basic questions.. But one time I lost my mind/control and did crazy shit. I wrote something for her on a piece of paper. It was just one word, but it was still crazy because I put it on a public place at work. But people probably couldn't know that I wrote it to her. And no the word wasn't the L word or anything creepy. I "knew her" for many years, at work. There was pretty much no reaction from her. 6. I feel a bit hopelessness I think. And maybe a bit sadness deep down. And having to go to work soon isn't a great feeling. And at work I hate being there. I feel the first 2 things pretty much during the whole day. @DrewNows Okay. I also seek enlightenment because I want to know the Truth. I don't know.

From the same book: "If you have the choice between enlightenment and a million dollars, take the million dollars! Because if you get the million dollars, there will be somebody there to enjoy the million dollars; but if you get enlightenment there's no one there to enjoy enlightenment." - Ramesh Balsekar "The process of becoming enlightened is a deliberate act of self annihilation. It is the false self that does the killing and the false self that dies; a suicide in all but the physical sense. Because there is no true self to fill the vacancy created by the passing the false self, no self remains. Hence it is rightly said that No-Self is True Self. It is not possible to knowledgeably choose or want Spiritual Enlightenment. To desire it is to misunderstand it. Ego cannot desire egolessness. One does not undergo the process of awakening out of love for the true but out of hatred for the false; a hatred so intense that it burns everything and spares nothing." "As soon as man awakens for a moment and opens his eyes, all the forces that caused him to fall asleep begin to act upon him with tenfold energy and he immediately falls asleep again, very often dreaming that he is awake or is awakening." - Gurdjieff From the back of the book: "Guns and bombs are children's toys. A true war wages, and you're invited. It's an invitation you may not be able to accept if you want to, or decline if you don't. It's an invitation to fight a war like no other; a war where loss is counted as gain, surrender as victory, and where the enemy you must face, an enemy of unimaginable superiority, is you."

@Aakash

"I Am": Consciousness. Or the innermost sense of 'I'. The following is from the book 'Spiritual Warfare' by Jed McKenna. Read it carefully: "Really. What, with absolute certainty, do you know? Put aside all opinions, beliefs, and theories for a moment and address this one simple question: What do you know for sure? Or as Thoreau put it: Let us settle ourselves, and work and wedge our feet downward through the mud and slush of opinion, and prejudice, and tradition, and delusion, and appearance, that alluvion which covers the globe... through church and state, through poetry and philosophy and religion, till we come to a hard bottom and rocks in place, which we can call reality, and say, This is, and no mistake; and then begin... In other words, let's cut the crap and figure out what we know for sure. The cogito does exactly that, and it's very simple. The question is: What do you know? The answer is: I Am. All other so-called facts are really non-facts and belong in the category of consensual reality and relative truth, i.e., unreal reality and untrue truth. Cogito ergo sum is the equation that proves the fact. But first, before we go on, let's ask what else we know. What else can be said for certain? Nothing. We don't know anything else. And that's the real point of the cogito. The importance of I Am isn't that it's a fact, but that it's the only fact. I Am is the only thing anyone has ever known or will ever know. Everything else, all religion and philosophy and science, can never be more than dream interpretation. There is no other fact than I Am. The cogito is the seed of the thought that destroys the universe. Beyond the cogito, nothing is known. Beyond the cogito, nothing can be known. Except I Am, no one knows anything. No man or god can claim to know more. No god array of gods can exist or be imagined that know more than this one thing: I Am. We can't avoid letting this topic drift briefly into the Old Testament. When Moses asked God His name, God answered, "I am that I am." The name God gives for Himself is I Am. Note I Am is unconjugatible. It allows of no variation. God doesn't say, "My name is I Am, but you can call me You Are, or He Is." The cogito, the I Am pronouncement, does not extend beyond one's own subjective knowing. I can say I Am and know it as truth, but I can't say you are, he is, she is, we are, they are, it is, etc. I know I exist and nothing else. Understood thusly, I Am, aka God, truly is the Alpha and the Omega; the entirety of being, of knowledge, of you. The cogito is the line between fantasy and reality. On one side of the cogito is a universe of beliefs and ideas and theories. To cross the line is to leave all that behind. No theory, concept, belief, opinion or debate can have any possible basis in reality once the ramifications of the cogito have fully saturated the mind. No dialogue can take place across that line because nothing that makes sense on either side makes sense on the other. Everyone thinks they understand the cogito, but nobody does. Descartes himself didn't. If professors of philosophy truly understood the cogito, they wouldn't be professors of philosophy. Alfred North Whitehead said that all philosophy is a footnote to Plato, but all philosophy, Plato included, is rendered obsolete and irrelevant by the cogito. Nothing but the subjective I Am is true, so what's the point of prattling on? There's simply nothing else to say. The cogito isn't a mere thought or an idea, it's an ego-eating virus that, if we are able to lower our defenses against it, will eventually devour all illusion. Once we know the cogito we can begin systematically unknowing everything we think we know, and unraveling the self we think we are. To understand the cogito at the surface level takes a minute or so. To let it devour you from the inside out can take years. Life is but a dream. There is no such thing as objective reality. Two cannot be proven. Nothing can be shown to exist. Time and space, love and hate, good and evil, cause and effect, are all just ideas. Anyone who says they know anything is really saying they don't know the only thing. Any assertion of truth other than I Am is a confession of ignorance. The greatest religious and philosophical thoughts and ideas in the history of man contain no more truth than the bleating of sheep. The greatest books contain no more truth than the greatest luncheon meats. No one knows anything. Disprove it for yourself. Anyone wishing to deny these statements about the meaning of the cogito need merely prove that something, anything, is true. By all means, give it a try; smash your head against it, but it can't be done. The cogito is like a Molotov cocktail with which we can firebomb our own mind, safe in the knowledge that truth doesn't burn. This, however, is not the end of the journey of awakening. It's just the beginning."

You don't know the answer? Really? They didn't survive. You don't survive. This is the most terrifying thing there is.