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It has nothing to do with the table itself but more with the person who takes their anger out on an inanimate object such as a table. If you consider the universe vibrating at a certain frequency and anger for instance at a different frequency, then the universe answers back to that source and self corrects. Karma is not payback; it's an auto correction reflected back to the source of the disturbance.

That's an excellent example of the mind of a sociopathic rapist.

If karma is real, then it's not just a matter whether a table suffers when broken but how it was broken. Was the table broken in anger? Just as a side note, when I think of karma I think in terms of vibration/ frequency. Harmonic balance.

Let's give that more thought.

That sounds about right. Thanks!

@Leo Gura I remember a story of an enlightened guru that was well known. Don't remember the exact name. But anyhow, people would come from all over to hear him speak. And every day he demanded his wife have something ready for him to eat at noon. So, one day his wife says to him: "People come from all around to hear you speak of the importance letting go of the material things in life. But yet you insist on having a meal every day at noon. Why is that?" He replied: "That one material indulgence is the only thing that keeps me here."

But what if they were already in that bliss state 24/7?

If they are truly enlightened my guess would be as a tether to the physical. Without it they would simply vanish.

@Magnanimous Good topic! Good info.

I aways think of this song when I hear ppl say they had their first realization of Absolute Truth.

You just know without a doubt. Because you are in the presents of infinite intelligence and have total confidence in it. I was practicing "no-self" and it felt like consciousness became totally focused like a laser. I've never experienced anything like that before. Next thing I knew I was no longer in time and space. Almost as if I entered a portal or something. Sort of a trance like state that the whirling dervishes are said to enter. I'm trying to describe it the best I can using words. But afterwards I remember thinking "that was absolutely amazing". "Why am I just discovering this now?". I didn't ask for information. I knew it knew and that was good enough. With it being infinitely intelligent it has your back at all times. Even though from the perspective of the finite self it may not always seem to be the case in that moment within time and space.

I was giving an example to @Dazgwny 's statement "It's like an impossibly tangled knot that you manage to untangle"

Add "practicing no-self" to that list. I call it simply "source". A cornucopia or "wellspring" from which all things emerge. All questions cease and become redundant as everything is already known. Space and time vanish.

@Dazgwny I think you'll like this.............