Last Night I Became An Alien Hyper Intelligence - AMA

[Thought Art]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

 

When I say only my POV is real, what you need to read that as is: only your POV is real.

Except when you say you became a mouse but I did I not become a mouse 

[Breakingthewall]

55 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

 

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

 

@Leo Gura Could it be said that you have understood everything that is possible to understand? I would say that the turning point is the poem. from there the work ceases to be understanding and goes on to exploration. Or is there more that needs to be understood? 

[kamwalker]

On 10/6/2022 at 6:17 PM, Leo Gura said:

Yes and no.

The end game is INFINITY, but also you can explore whatever sub-infinities within INFINITY that you want. So in a sense the game never ends. You just explore INFINITY forever.

Do you ultimately just have to take more psychedelics to start playing within infinity? My latest experience with infinity was rather horrifying and I think it will be a while before I am ready to go that deep again. 

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, kamwalker said:

My latest experience with infinity was rather horrifying

8 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

 

Could you explain?

[kamwalker]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Could you explain?

A very intense mushroom+nitrous oxide trip where I became conscious of being an eternal singular entity imagining everything forever. Infinite seems like the only word to describe it. I felt destabilized when I came out of it and had a difficult time grounding myself which is rare for me. It didn't feel like an evil experience, but it did not feel loving like it usually does. I'm still processing it. Right now I'm just grateful to be back in the finite localization. 

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Judy2 said:

@Leo Gura me as in the human you?

Yes.

1 hour ago, nuwu said:

b-but isnt it lonely? why cant we just have safe comfy dreams that never go wrong

i cant into consciousness. pls respond

You're in a comfy dream now. No one is forcing you to leave it. You can dream as long as you want.

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

Except when you say you became a mouse but I did I not become a mouse 

No different than saying I ate a cheeseburger but you did not.

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Leo Gura Could it be said that you have understood everything that is possible to understand?

No way. There is so much more to understand. However I could I say that I understood the biggest picture: Reality is INFINITY.

Many details though I still don't understand. Understanding the nuances and trickeries of Infinity is very challenging.

1 hour ago, kamwalker said:

Do you ultimately just have to take more psychedelics to start playing within infinity? My latest experience with infinity was rather horrifying and I think it will be a while before I am ready to go that deep again. 

You just need to take time to integrate that experience and overcome your fears.

It took me many terrifying encounters with infinity to reach a point where I can play with it now. And still my trips can be scary, especailly if I dose too high.

All of spirituality boils down to overcoming your fear of Infinite Love.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura

[ValiantSalvatore]

@Leo Gura How did you see the entity kangeroo mouse internally/externally? I unfortunately don't have the time to understand everthing in detail, even though I read most of the thread..

I had a similar experience on NN-DMT although the visual quality was very weak, I basically saw a tiny gnome of sorts that gave me access showing me I am all-powerful in that sense by giving me control over another body so to speak. This was all internal after a couple of hits. It definitely was not as intense. 

Is that similar to hyper alien intelligence? The experience was very strong energy of DMT was cursing through my head and I had similar to Martin Ball sort of these electric/digital synch waves in my head, no idea how to describe it. I heared strange sounds and I had to stop the experience, because of lack of control. Although paradoxically the entity showed me "authority" over it, giving me power and control. Sort of similar to beign a ruler. 

Is the beign you meet archetypal I got interseted into Carl Jung a bit? Do you think it exists in our universe itself? That you could possibly meet it in some odd scenaroy lol?

Edited October 9, 2022 by ValiantSalvatore

[AtheisticNonduality]

Because Leo is the Ratatouille of consciousness work.

Edited October 9, 2022 by AtheisticNonduality

[Karas]

Amazing ?

[Tristan12]

@AtheisticNonduality That's funny asf?

[billiesimon]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The topic is understanding everything about Consciousness, Mind, and God.

@Leo Gura I have been following you since the early self-inquiry videos, vedanta style (before 5-MeO), and I have seen an ever-evolving arc of deeper and deeper realizations. I have also benefited spiritually from you a lot. So the question arises: could there be a deeper, more awake, layer than God realization?

And, I'll go as far as saying: could reality be an infinite regress? For example, under material reality there's nonduality, then there's God consciousness, then there's another material reality of which God is just a byproduct or a small insignificant component, then this deeper material reality has its own Oneness, then it has its own higher-order God etc etc etc in an infinite regress.

Is it possible? it's still Infinity, if you think about it. The only problem with that is that invalidates the Self, because it might mean that even the Self, or Absolute I, is a fiction, or just a small sample of reality.

What do you think?

Edited October 10, 2022 by billiesimon

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Ragib Ashraf said:

Do you mostly do moderate doses? It seems based on your descriptions on the nature of your trips that you're able to retain some level of human functionality (walking around, looking at things, questioning/inquiry). Usually when I dose the trip ends up being overwhelming to where I can't even stand let or even focus my mind to question shit. 

I can trip very deeply on low doses.

But it's not as easy as just walking around and smelling roses. The peaks of my trips are so profound that I can barely walk. I usually walk around once the peak subsides.

55 minutes ago, billiesimon said:

@Leo Gura I have been following you since the early self-inquiry videos, vedanta style (before 5-MeO), and I have seen an ever-evolving arc of deeper and deeper realizations. I have also benefited spiritually from you a lot. So the question arises: could there be a deeper, more awake, layer than God realization?

I'd say you will just experience ever deeper realization of God. That's been my experience.

55 minutes ago, billiesimon said:

And, I'll go as far as saying: could reality be an infinite regress? For example, under material reality there's nonduality, then there's God consciousness, then there's another material reality of which God is just a byproduct or a small insignificant component, then this deeper material reality has its own Oneness, then it has its own higher-order God etc etc etc in an infinite regress.

Reality is INFINITY. INFINITY contains many strange infinite regresses within it. It's like an infinite fractal of consciousness.

55 minutes ago, billiesimon said:

Is it possible? it's still Infinity, if you think about it. The only problem with that is that invalidates the Self, because it might mean that even the Self, or Absolute I, is a fiction, or just a small sample of reality.

What do you think?

It doesn't invalidate the Self. That is the Self. Self is an ever-elastic thing.

[billiesimon]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Reality is INFINITY. INFINITY contains many strange infinite regresses within it. It's like an infinite fractal of consciousness.

I feel like I'm going to be mindfucked several times in the future. Even though it already happened a few times ?

[Leo Gura]

12 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

What exactly made this experience "different" from previous experiences you had? Haven't you had experiences of infinite imagination before? How was it any more significant than any of your prior awakenings to God? And what are the (possible) implications of this experience? 

It was a totally new and completely unexpected kind of consciousness for me. Nothing I had ever studied prepared me for its possibility. It was stranger than getting sucked up into a UFO while strolling through the park.

It was probably the single most amazing experience of my life.

Edited October 10, 2022 by Leo Gura

[LSD-Rumi]

@Leo GuraDo you mean you are the most awake person, form a solpsistic position? Like you are the only one there in the first place or do you mean it like you really mean it?

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, LSD-Rumi said:

@Leo GuraDo you mean you are the most awake person, form a solpsistic position? Like you are the only one there in the first place or do you mean it like you really mean it?

I don't know what you mean.

[LSD-Rumi]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't know what you mean.

I feel like,  you sometimes use solpsism to paly on us with words. Like , you say, I am the most awake person on earth. Do you mean this statement, like really? or do you mean I am all alone and I am the only one that can awaken? 

[thisintegrated]

On 06/10/2022 at 10:30 PM, Leo Gura said:

I am the first human who has ever discovered it.

This I highly doubt.  I don't see anything unique about such an experience, it's just extremely extremely rare.  You may want to read Robert Monroe's books to get an idea of the kinds of existences that are out there.

But I look forward to a clearer explanation of this experience.  Clearly something profound.

 

On 06/10/2022 at 10:30 PM, Leo Gura said:

This alien has set its life purpose to be the metaphysical embodiment of divine Playfulness, Quirkiness, and Weirdness. Imagine if playfulness, quirkiness, and weird could somehow be made absolutes

I've talked about this before.  It's "a" god, like from any polytheistic religion.  Not "the" god, but the manifestation of eternal/divine qualities which can be considered as a God.

 

Questions for @Leo Gura:

1. Why a mouse? Is this just your human mind's interpretation of its form?  Is "mouse" just the closest translation you have of it?  Is it a mouse in terms of size / importance / place in food chain or what?
2. You've said before that the reason for our ordinary human existence is that we'd quickly get bored of having everything we want.  However, you say:  "The immense delight that it takes in moving its body is matched by an immense delight in its own linguistic and mental gymnastics", which kinda sounds like it's having an orgasm every time it turns its neck an inch.  Doesn't this contradict what you were saying before?  Why wouldn't it get bored of moving its body?  If it doesn't get bored of this, then why don't we all just kill ourselves and join it in this endeavour?  Why don't we all just move our bodies for all eternity?

3. Did you get a sense for other such aliens?  Were you able to become other aliens, even for a moment?

4. Did you find any answers to questions you have here as a human?  Be it about aliens on Earth or reality in general?

5. What caused this experience to happen in the first place?

 

On 07/10/2022 at 1:17 AM, AtheisticNonduality said:

I wrote a book, as @Carl-Richard and @thisintegrated already know. A massive portion of it is dedicated to exploring the trickster archetype, but in its demonic forms.

What is this trickster stuff you talk about and why are you interested in it?

Edited October 10, 2022 by thisintegrated

[vibv]

I will just say this: I know where you're coming from, Leo, from personal experience. You have to discard all authority except your own. Ultimately you ARE the only that can understand reality. All teachings are imaginary.

The only purpose of all the teachings one beliefs in is to prevent one from realizing Truth.

Edited October 10, 2022 by vibv

[RendHeaven]

On 10/7/2022 at 2:39 PM, Leo Gura said:

My ideas come across just fine to those who are open to hear them.

can confirm