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The 5-MeO-DMT Mega-Thread

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6 minutes ago, Jed Vassallo said:

With plugging of a breakthrough dose, is there any chance of freaking out or yelling/screaming? I'd like to do it in my room, but have roommates. Don't want to alarm them with a major freakout. If it's just a gentle trip full of insight, I wouldn't worry about doing it at home. 

Of course this will depend on you.

Some people love to yell. Personally I never feel the need to yell. For me it's too profound for yelling. Silence is golden.

The best idea if you have roommates is to rent a cheap motel room for the trip. You can probably find a room for $40 on the outskirts of town.


"Be melting snow. Wash yourself of yourself." -- Rumi

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Does anyone know if 5 meo dmt FREEBASE has to be vaped because i smoked some using a lighter and a bong and felt nothing i did maybe 5 mgs and my friend might of done like 1 we didnt feel anything i got a bad headache after and some nausea but thats it

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@ethanb121 - 5 mgs is nothing. Also, you can't have direct flame on it. It's best to sandwhich with Mullien leaves. I'd start at 10mgs, then 12mgs then 14mgs, ect til breakthrough. 


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5 hours ago, Jed Vassallo said:

With plugging of a breakthrough dose, is there any chance of freaking out or yelling/screaming? I'd like to do it in my room, but have roommates. Don't want to alarm them with a major freakout. If it's just a gentle trip full of insight, I wouldn't worry about doing it at home. 

People react VERY differently to 5meo. And it can easily change for the same person from time to time. I have yelled like a motherfucker without being aware of it. And I've seen people making a lot of noise out of the blue. So yes, it can definitely happen. 5meo is much more unpredictable than DMT..

5 hours ago, ethanb121 said:

Does anyone know if 5 meo dmt FREEBASE has to be vaped because i smoked some using a lighter and a bong and felt nothing i did maybe 5 mgs and my friend might of done like 1 we didnt feel anything i got a bad headache after and some nausea but thats it

You most likely burnt it. You could buy a Health Stone for your bong or make something like it with some chore boy like material and heat with a torch lighter from a distance not touching the substance itself.

45 minutes ago, nowimhere said:

@ethanb121 - 5 mgs is nothing. Also, you can't have direct flame on it. It's best to sandwhich with Mullien leaves. I'd start at 10mgs, then 12mgs then 14mgs, ect til breakthrough. 

5 mg can be VERY powerful if you manage to vape it efficiently. And 10 mg can easily be a breakthrough. So starting at 10 mg is a bit much that is if you don't wanna go for a potential breakthrough right off the bat.

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Can i give my cat DMT ? ( no troll ) 

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21 minutes ago, Yoshy said:

Can i give my cat DMT ? ( no troll ) 

If you are a woman and by cat you mean pussy, then yes.


"Be melting snow. Wash yourself of yourself." -- Rumi

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My friend wants to do 5 MEO. He has Depression and PTSD. And I think I am going to start him with smoking it. Cause I find the trip just comes SO fast when smoking it (5-10 seconds to breakthrough) that the ego doesn't even have time to cling on to anything. I wouldn't suggest plugging for him, as the few minutes of ego death can be quite tramatic. It is his choice after all... I am hoping that he gets a breakthrough. (He's very good with phycedellics, so he has that working for him)

Although I know its a lil risky (and told him so, and sent him the 5 MEO video Leo did) ... I am confident he can get there.


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@nowimhere I would suggest plugging it.

Smoking too much can overwhelm him in a negative way. Someone with PTSD & depression you gotta be extra careful with.


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@Leo Gura - He smoked it and.... Breakthrough successful ! He said it was the most profound experience of his life. I knew since he had a LOT of experience with phycedellics that he should be good. Although, at first he kicked and yelled and screamed, which he doesn't remember at all lol. 

Tomorrow, I am going to up my dose of 27mgs to 28mgs for plugging. Since 27 got me to face my death, but not quite breakthrough... I am sure 28, 29 or 30 will get me there. But I'm only going to up the dose one mg at a time.... As I was truly shocked at the difference between 26mgs and 27mgs. Wish me luck :)


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Good luck! Please do a detailed report.

Curious how you are able to measure by one milligram? Seems most all scales are not that accurate. 

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Got the 28mg syringe all ready to go and I pussed out yesterday. Resolved to do it today and so far have pussed out again (a few times) :( 

Haven't done any other phycedellics since 5, but do have some mush (micro dose amount) and acid (one tab) on hand. 

Parents come back from Camping on Friday, so I really do want to plug sometime before then, but that damn fear keeps getting me. 

Might just do mush today, then smoke some 5 tmr, then plug the next day. It's been a couple weeks since doing it, and I always notice its "easier" to do it after you've done it recently (for me personally) . The longer I sit on it, the bigger the fear grows. 

Help? Advise?


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@nowimhere Fear is bullshit.

Go to God.

Once the water droplets touch the 5-MeO, there's no backing out. That is your point of no return.


"Be melting snow. Wash yourself of yourself." -- Rumi

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Or sit with the fear, that's a good practice in and of it self, a sign a that the pressure is high enough now don't you think? 

You need time to integrate psychedelics, you can call them forced openings.

If you had a big opening on psychedelics, you're done for this life, you've committed to going deep and it will come back and you will have to integrate it in every aspect of your life (and that's no small task, all the potential of self-delusion and self-sabotage, etc.), so that just takes time, and being young  especially, and having no stable self-sustained life or community, doesn't necessarily make things easier..

And if you think you can get away with sensitive topics, like lying to your parents for instance, whilst wanting to become truth, think again


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18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@nowimhere Fear is bullshit.

Go to God.

Well, used this as a mantra on the come up along with some deep pranayama breathing and didn't experience any fear at all :) Felt on the cusp of a breakthrough a couple of times, but alas, no breakthrough. It's like almost as if I saw the gates, but then the gates kept on dissapearing. (If that makes any sense) 

Extremely clear god levels of thought tho. Kind of a oxymoron, I know lol.

Next plugging session gonna say fuck it and go to 30mgs (freebase) which will = 35mgs HCL. Hopefully that will tip the scales.


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Can someone help me? Out of four tries, only two of them I could dissolve the 5-MeO freebase in a water-vinegar solution easily. Right now I'm preparing for a trip, I'm stirring since 20 minutes but it just won't dissolve. I think I didn't do anything different than the other times. I had this problem before. I think a lot of the substance will be wasted because it will stay in the syringe. Anyone any ideas? Is it the water temperature? The vinegar strength? I do it as in the video but I add a little vinegar essence to the water I'm dissolvig the freebase in. 

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