Leo Gura

The 5-MeO-DMT Mega-Thread

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Well, got a new batch of 5 MeO and plugged 35 mgs (freebase) 

The comeup was smooth and gentle. Except around the five minute mark I felt like I had to puke. (Even though I didn't eat anything all day)

Still no breakthrough with plugging. Felt like I "almost" went to the doors but not quite.

Guess I just gotta keep upping the dose til it just takes me. Will likely go 37 or 38 next. And slowly increse to 40, then 42 or 43 then 45. If I don't hit it by 45 then I just don't know what to say. 

Will be smoking it next time, cause I know I can get a breakthrough that way. Just really want to make plugging work ! 


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@nowimhere Seems like you're too cautious with your dosing. Increasing by 1mg is too anal. Up it by 5mg each time. Then you should hit a breakthrough soon.

It's totally normal to require 40-45mg when plugging.

The range is between 15mg to 45mg, depending a lot on your tolerance which seems to be genetically determined.

Since you've already broken through via smoking, you should have no trouble with 40mg-45mg plugged. The plugged breakthrough will be much gentler (but still epic).


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18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@nowimhere Seems like you're too cautious with your dosing. Increasing by 1ml is too anal. Up it by 5mg each time. Then you should hit a breakthrough soon.

It's totally normal to require 40-45mg when plugging.

The range is between 15mg to 45mg, depending a lot on your tolerance which seems to be genetically determined.

Since you've already broken through via smoking, you should have no trouble with 40mg-45mg plugged. The plugged breakthrough will be much gentler (but still epic).

Beautiful :) 40mgs it will be then for next time!

Curious, are your numbers referring to Freebase or HCL? Cause 35mgs freebase equals 40.8 HCL, so 40mgs freebase would equal 46.6 HCL and 45mgs freebase would equal 52.5 HCL

And thanks @Jed Vassallo

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1 hour ago, nowimhere said:

Beautiful :) 40mgs it will be then for next time!

Curious, are your numbers referring to Freebase or HCL? Cause 35mgs freebase equals 40.8 HCL, so 40mgs freebase would equal 46.6 HCL and 45mgs freebase would equal 52.5 HCL

And thanks @Jed Vassallo

Freebase is about 5mg more potent than HCl.

My numbers are ambiguous since 5mg is not a big difference. Tolerance is a much bigger factor.


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btw. in order to decrease usage of valuable substance use maoi before plugging (decrease dosage below 10mg as a start, ideally 5-6mg xD)

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@archi - pretty sure people have killed themselves when using MAOI and MeO. That sounds like a horrible idea.

@Leo Gura - Noted ! Its crazy how I can have a tolerance for plugging but complete opposite for smoking. 


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Tell me please what is the most efficient tool for vaping 5 MeO freebase for you?

You could PM me.

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38 minutes ago, Goodpeace said:

Tell me please what is the most efficient tool for vaping 5 MeO freebase for you?

You could PM me.

I've said it multiple times on this thread. I believe they call it "sandwiching"

Here is what you will need :

1- a simple glass pipe

2- mullien leaves

3- 5-MeO-DMT

What I do first is pre-weight the MeO . 14mgs continuously gets me to breakthrough. Now, in the pipe you want to pack a little bit of mullien leaves and smoke it. Leaving you with a bed of ash, this ash will act as a screen. . Reason why you want mullien leaves is because it is "neutral" or non-psychoactive. Next, you will pack a small layer of mullien leaves on top of the ash, this will act as a "bed" for the MeO. Next, put your meo on top of that. Next, put another layer of mullien leaves on top of that. Just enough to conver the MeO completely, but not like your packing a whole bowl or anything.

Then, on my bed I like to put a face towl coiled up next to me, so after I take my hit, I can put my pipe on it, without burning the house down.

Nothing is left for you to take your hit.... You should be able to take the whole hit in one go, hold it in for as long as possible, put the pipe on the towl, then blow out. 

At this point , you will literally be blasted off into infinity, and beyond.

 

Best of luck to you mate. I've broken through 11 times using this method so I know it works.

Do let us know your trip report here when finished :)

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I tried plugging for the third time (first two times were practice lets say). I had about 33 mg. I peaked after 6 minutes and it was done after 15 minutes. Didn't get a breakthrough but I blame the fact my bowels were not totally empty.

This is SO fast though. I didn't have the time to do much, I was just dealing with the pressure on my chest making it difficult to breath. I'm all about dying but asphyxiation isn't really my type of death.

 

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@nowimhere Thanks! I'll try this one too but I wanted to get the best vaping method first and then smoking... Thank you for your time.

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2 hours ago, Goodpeace said:

@nowimhere Thanks! I'll try this one too but I wanted to get the best vaping method first and then smoking... Thank you for your time.

It DOES vapourize it.

Just straight up "smoking" 5-MeO doesn't work because you burn the substance. 

That's why you need to sandwhich it. 


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5 hours ago, Goodpeace said:

Tell me please what is the most efficient tool for vaping 5 MeO freebase for you?

You could PM me.

I have tried maybe 7-8 devices for 5-MeO-DMT (and DMT). My favorite is a Health Stone. It vaporizes fast. It can be pre-loaded. It fits in whatever 18 mm glass pipe or bong you like. It can vaporize a lot of material in one hit (mostly relevant with DMT).

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8 hours ago, zikzak said:

I have tried maybe 7-8 devices for 5-MeO-DMT (and DMT). My favorite is a Health Stone. It vaporizes fast. It can be pre-loaded. It fits in whatever 18 mm glass pipe or bong you like. It can vaporize a lot of material in one hit (mostly relevant with DMT).

Is there a risk of condensation of the vapourized 5-MeO in the water of the bong?

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12 hours ago, nowimhere said:

It DOES vapourize it.

Just straight up "smoking" 5-MeO doesn't work because you burn the substance. 

That's why you need to sandwhich it. 

All right!
How do you hold the flame? Touching the stuff or at what distance? A torch lighter with blue flame?

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Put the substance on the stone. Heat the stone from the side with a torch lighter. The material will melt into the stone. Now load the stone into a glass pipe or bong of your choice. To vaporize it heat up from a distance nearly touching the stone while inhaling. Use a three flame torch lighter or a big one and use it from a distance rather one with a small flame. 5-MeO-DMT can take a bit more heat than DMT so it's quite easy not to burn it. Quite easy with DMT also but you have to take a bit more care.

Just take care for anyone going with this method coming from a meth pipe, sandwich method etc. - it's very efficient and everything gets vaporized so be careful of dose..

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16 hours ago, Goodpeace said:

Tell me please what is the most efficient tool for vaping 5 MeO freebase for you?

I’ve vaped with a standard vape commonly used for dry herb. 428F gives me good results. It probably isn’t the most efficient, yet inly a few mgs are needed. As well, it doesn’t have the wave like effect of plugging

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48 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

I’ve vaped with a standard vape commonly used for dry herb. 428F gives me good results. It probably isn’t the most efficient, yet inly a few mgs are needed. As well, it doesn’t have the wave like effect of plugging

Is 428F enough temperature? What is the melting point? There are different answers in the internet for that. Does anybody know for sure?
I have such a standard vape...

@zikzak thanks! Are you sure it works with bongs concerning the cooling water?

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