How come that girls can be ruthless against nice guys?

[Preety_India]

@RendHeaven yea exactly that's what I meant. Intimacy, holism, those words.

 

[bejapuskas]

I think a guy can be very nice and also not sexually repressed. One should get out of relationships that are not sexually compatible, pushing is not good. Nothing wrong about that.

[Thunder Kiss]

A good way to meet people and build confidence would be by getting a weekend job in bar, this really helped my confidence years ago when I was really shy.  It’s a very good way to talk with lots of different people and form social group with work friends…work nights out there are always the most unlikely hookups going on and you meet all types of people coming in (many types of guys and girls)   This means you don’t have to go to bar alone.. you are already there with reason.. I saw many a male collegue take customers numbers or hanging out with them after the shift!

Edited July 10, 2021 by Thunder Kiss

[Karmadhi]

@Preety_India 1. Leo learned about how to get girls using PUA stuff, which are stage orange.

2. Most females in developed countries, especially pre 30 are stage orange, therefore orange strategies work best to get them. You cater your strategies to the level of development of the individual you are dealing with. Stage green strategies will get you rejected with orange women.

3. Most females are still slaves to their primitive attraction triggers, very few can transcend them. Most girls especially pre 30 will just follow their emotions like monkeys without stopping and thinking "will this guy treat me well? will the relationship with him make me happy?". It is the equivalent of you eating junk food because it tastes good without ever stopping and thinking if it is actually good for you. When you are looking to get a girl, you cater to the majority of the population, not to 5 percent of super developed conscious people. Especially girls that conscious pre 30 are rarer than a 10/10 hot girl, they lack the life experience to develop such awareness. 

4. Biological attraction itself is very animalistic which tends to be on the lower stages of the spiral. Therefore to properly use it to get a girl, such strategies are useful.

This is not about conscious dating, it is about getting a girlfriend. Just like low conscious business leads to more profit, low conscious dating strategies lead to more girls wanting to be with you.

 

[Peter Miklis]

24 minutes ago, Thunder Kiss said:

A good way to meet people and build confidence would be by getting a weekend job in bar, this really helped my confidence years ago when I was really shy.

Personally, as a guy with slight aspherghers, job in a bar/ as a waiter would fucking kill me lol. Not sure if I would ever attempt to do such a thing.

But yeah, it sure can be a great way to socialize, sure.

Edited July 10, 2021 by Peter Miklis

[Preety_India]

@Karmadhi  I understand whatever you are saying, I used to think that way too but there is a stage where a woman transcends that, age doesn't have much to do with it, it's more about experience. When a woman has a couple of bad experiences, she is more conscious about what she wants, and it's called conscious dating, not just attraction. Men and women who have a sizable amount of experience finally lean towards conscious dating choices especially if they are more consciousness and spirituality inclined. Different people have different needs. No? But generalizing dating as a rabbit wolf setup in my opinion is an error in judgement because not everyone's love story is a wolf rabbit thing. Just because a majority is stage Orange, one shouldn't make that the anthem. There are others as well. A versatile person is open to all sorts of ideas, they aren't stubborn with only one.

I mean the portrayal is a bit unfair, looks like there's a lot of insecurity going on.

To be fair, most women on this website are very conscious and would absolutely not want this rabbit wolf dating and I'm wondering if it translates into irl as well. Why should I think that most women are unconscious? That doesn't make sense. The more women I meet the more I feel like they're oriented to Spirituality and consciousness and they exhibit quite high conscious behaviour and would want a high conscious guy to match their needs and these are young women so this stuff is mind boggling. This doesn't represent the niche I interact with. 

Am I right about the insecurity point?

 

Edited July 10, 2021 by Preety_India

[Preety_India]

46 minutes ago, bejapuskas said:

I think a guy can be very nice and also not sexually repressed. One should get out of relationships that are not sexually compatible, pushing is not good. Nothing wrong about that.

Yea this is another point I wanted to address. There's a stereotype circulating here where people automatically assume that a nice guy is not sexually attractive or only an asshole can be sexually attractive, a very extremist form of thinking. There are so many grey zones where people can be both.

 

[Karmadhi]

@Preety_India You are right, however again it is about the demographic. Overwhelming majority of girls fall for that orange behaviour shit. You cannot use members of this forumn as examples, they are too few. Personally i used to be that guy females here describe and it did not work for me. Most girls reward fun and cocky, not self actualized. Your way of thinking is more evolved but too advanced for most guys to have success if they implement your ways. It is currently too advanced and not practical. Imagine teaching in the middle east people about cultural relativism, that place is not evolved enough for it.

[Preety_India]

@Karmadhi oh.

 

[bejapuskas]

55 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

@Preety_India You are right, however again it is about the demographic. Overwhelming majority of girls fall for that orange behaviour shit. You cannot use members of this forumn as examples, they are too few. Personally i used to be that guy females here describe and it did not work for me. Most girls reward fun and cocky, not self actualized. Your way of thinking is more evolved but too advanced for most guys to have success if they implement your ways. It is currently too advanced and not practical. Imagine teaching in the middle east people about cultural relativism, that place is not evolved enough for it.

@Karmadhi  If it is that way, you just need to find the right person buddy, wish you all the best!  

[Karmadhi]

@bejapuskas I do not think that is a feasable strategy. I will implement orange dating and cast a huge net.

Thank you for the support

[Jacob Morres]

2 hours ago, Preety_India said:

Yea this is another point I wanted to address. There's a stereotype circulating here where people automatically assume that a nice guy is not sexually attractive or only an asshole can be sexually attractive, a very extremist form of thinking. There are so many grey zones where people can be both.

 

I mean you've definitely bolstered  this stereotype lol. Few weeks back I called u out for more nuance and u said. "Well the truth is that women just love alphas, and thsts the fact"

Edited July 10, 2021 by Jacob Morres

[Jodistrict]

I'm not sure what orange dating is, but I recently had a 25 year old woman ask if she could be my friend after I told her about the "inner child".   Women are very open to spiritual concepts if you explain it in a way that can be understood.

[Arcangelo]

18 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

dan bilzerian than have 40 hotties

Dude the guy is a fraud. The girls get paid. They are prostitutes/models

[Peter Miklis]

27 minutes ago, Arcangelo said:

Dude the guy is a fraud. The girls get paid. They are prostitutes/models

It's actually ridicilous how some people don't see that. That guy has a personality of a fucking statue. No way those girls hang out with him for free.

Edited July 10, 2021 by Peter Miklis

[Depersonilized]

Not saying any of you are wrong technically speaking in certain situations, but be aware that this is some of the most stage orange communication I've seen on this forum. Be aware of that. Be open to the possibility that relationships are NOT about physical attraction or attraction to the "things" others have. It's so much more than that. Besides, we don't need 200 comments for a post this simple. 

Nice guys are deceptive. Stop being deceptive. If you make it through your deceptiveness and find that you are still considered a "nice guy" great! That makes the selection process much easier. 

[Preety_India]

2 hours ago, Jacob Morres said:

I mean you've definitely bolstered  this stereotype lol. Few weeks back I called u out for more nuance and u said. "Well the truth is that women just love alphas, and thsts the fact"

Yes I still believe that women are attracted to Alpha because evolutionary-wise it makes sense why. Yet this never means that beta cannot be sexually attractive. And a nice guy is not always a beta, that's another stereotype. Yes alpha is attractive but beta can be attractive in their own ways, lot of people overlook beta attraction strategies. In reality, a lot of women first fall for an Alpha, usually turns out to be a bad experience after which they settle for a beta and have kids with him. Ironically beta wins in the end. Alpha loses because of behaviour problems.

 

[lmfao]

@Thunder Kiss   Lmao alright, that's pretty funny. Money solves everything apparently!!
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My impression is that throughout much of these threads Leo is giving the simple, approximate truth to the matter of attraction and getting laid. I like that, and that's what pragmatically taken away. 

These discussions and thread fill up so quickly every time, because the entire topic of relationships goes into full discussion every time a thread is made. Can't be helped I suppose, happens in so many consciousness threads as well. 
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On 09/07/2021 at 8:17 PM, Striving for more said:

Don't ever tell me what to. How about you just .... F*** Off 

@Striving for more Just tell someone to fuck off without censoring, it's fine. If you're gonna say fuck off, say fuck off 

Edited July 10, 2021 by lmfao

[bejapuskas]

@Preety_India  I saw the comment Jacob Morres is talking about and I see how it could sound like something you were not intending to say. Maybe provide more context the first time you post? Context is always necessary. I mean I know incels will call you out for both things, either you confirm their BS or you are hypocritical. But I think there are still people trying to learn from you, even though it is hard to see. I think you are a really good member here because you are not a western male and you create a lot of diversity, but maybe the users cannot see that if you post without explanation. (I know you still do that a lot and @Jacob Morres should acknowledge that too) I am just trying to facilitate understanding here.

[Preety_India]

@bejapuskas but what sort of explanation?

Examples?