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23 minutes ago, The Don said:

'Reason' is a great tool when it comes to reaching an objective conclusion.

Wrong! Reason is only applicable in limited one dimensional human thought which can never be used to find the absolute truth.


''To be happy we must not be too concerned with others''.

Albert Camus

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5 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Capitalism is by it's very nature authority and exploitation,  (according to Osho) a spiritually evolved society would have interest in neither

I don't see my job as something "authoritarian" that's somehow exploiting me.

I prefer to have a job because I get to interact with my fellow human beings. I enjoy working and studying human behavior. And it pays me for the work I'm doing.

I also like to take my social skills to the next level. I'm working in a restaurant as a waiter which allows me to practice my social skill.

Having a job taught me how to be disciplined and embrace work. Do you know? Work is a noble thing. You learn to serve others.

A job can not be by its very nature exploitative because you're the one who's choosing that job. Nobody forces you to get a job. Capitalism certainly doesn't.

Socialism spends what capitalism creates. If you have a thirst for other people's money, I suggest you develop yourself properly and become independent.

Money has to be earned.

Take @Leo Gura's example. He made it because he struggled to master his mind. He did everything possible to develop himself in order to reach this level of understanding.

Capitalism allows you to solve societal problems by opening up a conscious business that's beneficial to others. But for that, you have to acquire skills.


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@The Don

Classic libertarian pull-yourself-up-by-your bootstrap egotism. Heard it all before. Shame on me for thinking you ever had a point. :) 

 Nobody forces me to get a job? How about the fact that I STARVE AND DIE if I dont.

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5 minutes ago, The Don said:

A job can not be by its very nature exploitative because you're the one who's choosing that job. Nobody forces you to get a job. Capitalism certainly doesn't.

Socialism spends what capitalism creates. If you have a thirst for other people's money, I suggest you develop yourself properly and become independent.

Money has to be earned.

Take @Leo Gura's example. He made it because he struggled to master his mind. He did everything possible to develop himself in order to reach this level of understanding.

Capitalism allows you to solve societal problems by opening up a conscious business that's beneficial to others. But for that, you have to acquire skills.

Bruh xD

It's good that you're taking personal responsibility for you life. I'm sure your job does benefit you. But you really need to take a deeper look into how capitalism works and not just swallow the neoliberal kool-aid.


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7 hours ago, The Don said:

In a free, healthy society, the so-called "hate speech" must be allowed in order to be countered properly.

I agree.

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Candace Owens has only a pea-sized brain. She seems to be a totally worthless person, except for her looks. She's essentially only good for jerk off material.

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Note: I was talking about the end of Capitalism not private buisness


''To be happy we must not be too concerned with others''.

Albert Camus

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@The Don

1 hour ago, The Don said:

I don't see my job as something "authoritarian" that's somehow exploiting me.

I prefer to have a job because I get to interact with my fellow human beings. I enjoy working and studying human behavior. And it pays me for the work I'm doing.

I also like to take my social skills to the next level. I'm working in a restaurant as a waiter which allows me to practice my social skill.

Having a job taught me how to be disciplined and embrace work. Do you know? Work is a noble thing. You learn to serve others.

A job can not be by its very nature exploitative because you're the one who's choosing that job. Nobody forces you to get a job. Capitalism certainly doesn't.

Socialism spends what capitalism creates. If you have a thirst for other people's money, I suggest you develop yourself properly and become independent.

Money has to be earned.

Take @Leo Gura's example. He made it because he struggled to master his mind. He did everything possible to develop himself in order to reach this level of understanding.

Capitalism allows you to solve societal problems by opening up a conscious business that's beneficial to others. But for that, you have to acquire skills.

   Good on you for not treating your job as if it exploits your own authority.

   Although a job is more a requirement for living inside a society than a preference/free choice of the person, it doesn't mean that you should be negative to others and to yourself, so it's good for you to enjoy your job, as a waiter.

   I also learned to love my job because not only do I get to sometimes interact with human beings, I also get to observe them from afar sometimes, and depending on the times I also get work late at night, observing people.

   Not only did I gain some discipline, but I developed patience and pleasure from just my work, as you sometimes have to wait long periods of time to take down notes/draw from observation. Work not just noble, but it can also be selfish, in a way that builds you up as a better self person.

   Capitalism is mainly stuff around currency and equipment of businesses, but that doesn't mean it can't be exploitative. Take for example, labor workers in China, that work crazy long hours in factories, like phone developing factories, and some feel the need to jump off buildings. That's one example of people abusing capitalism.

   Socialism basically is being social, so of course it's different from capitalism, capitalism is concerned if you have your own capital to begin with, while socialism is more concerned if you are being social enough. At least that's a more simple comparison between the two anyways.

   I can't speak for Leo, as he's a special case in all this, but he's an okay dude for making Actualized.org and those tons of free videos, with many hours and weeks of research, I think, maybe.

   Capitalism actually can't help you with societal problems, because societal problems are connected to less socialism, also being less social. If you really want societal problems to go away, you'll have to think more socialism rather than capitalism, more being social than spending your capital currency thinking money spending fixies all societal problems.

    Remember, be more social, not pay more.

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29 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

 

 Socialism basically is being social, 

wat

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''To be happy we must not be too concerned with others''.

Albert Camus

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2 hours ago, The Don said:

I don't see my job as something "authoritarian" that's somehow exploiting me.

I prefer to have a job because I get to interact with my fellow human beings. I enjoy working and studying human behavior. And it pays me for the work I'm doing.

I also like to take my social skills to the next level. I'm working in a restaurant as a waiter which allows me to practice my social skill.

Well good for you, you have a job that you get some value out of, most people don't.

2 hours ago, The Don said:

Having a job taught me how to be disciplined and embrace work. Do you know? Work is a noble thing. You learn to serve others.

I won't deny this

2 hours ago, The Don said:

A job can not be by its very nature exploitative because you're the one who's choosing that job. Nobody forces you to get a job. Capitalism certainly doesn't.

Under Capitalism I have no choice whether or not I wish to be exploited or not. Capitalism is exploitive because the employer is incentivized to pay worker below the value in which they produce, the worker produces wealth through labor but does not see that wealth.

And yes, Capitalism does force us to get a job, one that provides no value and is detrimental to our health.

2 hours ago, The Don said:

Socialism spends what capitalism creates. If you have a thirst for other people's money, I suggest you develop yourself properly and become independent.

Strawman socialist don't have jobs stereotype.

2 hours ago, The Don said:

Capitalism allows you to solve societal problems by opening up a conscious business that's beneficial to others. But for that, you have to acquire skills.

WRONG. The businesses that succeed are the ones that sell bottom feeder crap (i.e. fast food) and have the most marketing money. The need to acquire skills to benefit society is not something that just goes away in Socialism.


''To be happy we must not be too concerned with others''.

Albert Camus

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What the hack guys...

Exactly what I was thinking about today.


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LMAO at thinking that making your own hardware, software, OS and app store, PLUS needing advanced security tech built into a secure enclave on the phone itself, is as easy as asking Elon Musk and having some nerd looking guy coding on a computer to get it done.  Or a team of "ex-Apple" or "ex-Google" employees doing hard work and having it done. xD  Not to mention, doing all of this for a group of unhinged too-far gone people, that won't take accountability and have been brainwashed by extremely biased content they've been fed online for years, maybe a decade.

Samsung for example, is an Apple competitor and they haven't made their own OS.  Everyone wants Samsung to make their own OS to compete with Android and iOS but they can't.  The over-head they need is gargantuan.  Even Huawei which is backed by the CCP government, is having a challenging time designing their own OS and Apps and Appstore and have it streamlined and accepted by the entire world after Google dumped Huawei from using their platform and Google Play app store worldwide.

 

 

 

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Yes, Elon Musk, please give us a platform where hate speech, racism, xenophobia, slander, lies, and outlandish conspiracy theories are allowed to flourish unchecked.

Right-wing logic.

The fundamental problem that the right-wing has is that their worldview is untenable, therefore they need a custom, closed ecosystem where they can inbreed with their own kind and escape facts en mass through self-validating circle-jerking.

Far right ideas can only survive inside a reality-denying echo-chamber.

Don't like the facts? No problem, just invent your own and gather a million like-minded people so that no one you talk to tells you otherwise.


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@The Don What kind of shit have you been smoking bro? 😂😂😂


Lifes amazein'

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@The Don I've read through the thread and it seems like you're in favor of completely unmoderated social media channels. Full stop.

So, my question to you is, 'Without the ability to moderate, how then do social media companies address the very real danger of demagogues and hate groups spreading propaganda that (either directly or indirectly) directs the masses towards acts of violence, hate crimes, insurrection, authoritarianism, and genocide?'

This is a very real issue. It isn't just "Words are just words. Get over it snowflake." There are some very real issues with the way large masses of people can be manipulated by the words of influential people. And this has bore out in history time and again. And it isn't just, "Well, then they should face the consequences of their own individual actions." At that point, the damage would already be done and a momentum towards terrible things already started.

It must be understood that, if a riot breaks out in a classroom, the teacher IS 100% at fault... even if they didn't make the students riot or tell the students to riot directly. The same is true of those exercising their free speech who end up stoking these societal flames... especially since they know exactly what they're doing.

Words put ideas in people's minds. And crafty individuals can (and always have) used their platforms to stoke the flames of hatred and oppression. 

Now, we have social media channels, where everyone has a platform that can be used to proliferate propaganda and radicalize people towards terrible things.

So, how do you propose that we address the problem of propaganda and indirect encouragement of crimes, if not through the moderation of misinformation and propaganda on social media platforms?

Also... "just let it happen" is not a valid answer to the question as it doesn't address any of the VERY SERIOUS issues that I mentioned above.

How do you maintain your view on 'free speech absolutism', while also addressing these issues in a meaningful way?


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14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

In a free, health society, so-called "rape" must be allowed in order to be countered properly.

Your logic, not mine.

@Leo Gura well done... great point. 

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Freedom to spread lies and misinformation!!!

Cool!!!

😂😂😂😂

Hitler would be in favor of that if he was alive...

😆


Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you?
1 Corinthians 3:16

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6 hours ago, hoodrow trillson said:

LMAO at thinking that making your own hardware, software, OS and app store, PLUS needing advanced security tech built into a secure enclave on the phone itself, is as easy as asking Elon Musk and having some nerd looking guy coding on a computer to get it done.  Or a team of "ex-Apple" or "ex-Google" employees doing hard work and having it done. xD  Not to mention, doing all of this for a group of unhinged too-far gone people, that won't take accountability and have been brainwashed by extremely biased content they've been fed online for years, maybe a decade.

Samsung for example, is an Apple competitor and they haven't made their own OS.  Everyone wants Samsung to make their own OS to compete with Android and iOS but they can't.  The over-head they need is gargantuan.  Even Huawei which is backed by the CCP government, is having a challenging time designing their own OS and Apps and Appstore and have it streamlined and accepted by the entire world after Google dumped Huawei from using their platform and Google Play app store worldwide.

 

 

 

@hoodrow trillson But what if in 10 days we wake up and there'll be lizards everywhere!!! :o:(:( And all our phone will be hacked, what do we then?? :( You'll probably regret not posting this hashtag on tweeter so Elon could actually see. He doesn't see anything now,we are screwed :o :(:o. Maybe he'll come up with that OS in 10 days and save us like Jesus did :o (By turning Android OS into the Tesla or something)

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2 hours ago, Emerald said:

seems like you're in favor of completely unmoderated social media channels. Full stop

I am. I rather that than the alternative. We are living in 1984 already and it is getting worse and worse. It's like a black mirror episode everyone being nice and saying nice things because they have to.

2 hours ago, Emerald said:

"Words are just words. Get over it snowflake."

I am a simple man. This makes sense.

2 hours ago, Emerald said:

"Well, then they should face the consequences of their own individual actions."

This also makes perfect sense to me. If people are dumb enough to do stupid shit let them suffer the consequences. So what? No one thinks for themselves anymore? If I hear trump talking stupid racist shit will I go and storm the capitol? No, I am not stupid, I will stay home and watch the news while I smoke some quality weed.

2 hours ago, Emerald said:

So, my question to you is, 'Without the ability to moderate, how then do social media companies address the very real danger of demagogues and hate groups spreading propaganda that (either directly or indirectly) directs the masses towards acts of violence, hate crimes, insurrection, authoritarianism, and genocide?'

 

IDK

But I know that the social media companies DGAF about the very real danger of demagogues and hate groups spreading propaganda. They just care about the money.

3 hours ago, Emerald said:

It must be understood that, if a riot breaks out in a classroom, the teacher IS 100% at fault.

I very strongly disagree. What are you talking about?

 

3 hours ago, Emerald said:

How do you maintain your view on 'free speech absolutism', while also addressing these issues in a meaningful way?

IDK

 

 

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@Arcangelo collective responsibility exists, and I disagree, social media companies do care about certain forms of speech more and more every day. Facebook is the worst offender cause they allowed Holocaust deniers forever but recently just changed course.

leo make a good point that you must balance personal responsibility with collective responsibility, there is too much shirking of collective responsibility in just giving trump a pass for that riot and coup attempt which he told his supporters to March to the capitol and cheer for people they agree with and “not cheer” for the people they disagreed with. It’s getting out of hand and if you’re afraid that people can’t be vicious and ugly just look on Twitter there is plenty of vitriol. Trump only gets so many chances just like Alex Jones. Ultimately there is no fear in me because my barometer of freedom isn’t how much I can post on a private companies website or app. It’s how healthy and conscious the people in society are.

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