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Suffering from derealization

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Hello.After my shrooms trip I started suffering from derealization and can’t get over it.suffering from solipsism.How can I get over it? I hope Leo you respond to it.

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2 hours ago, Antor8188 said:

Hello.After my shrooms trip I started suffering from derealization and can’t get over it.suffering from solipsism.How can I get over it? I hope Leo you respond to it.

Can you talk alittle more about this derealization. And what does suffering from solipsism mean?

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Eat more (only if you feel like you lost your appetite), watch some shitty tv shows, take a break from spirituality, solipsism is not true. Remember that what you think you know is only what you think you know. 

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Stop resisting it. 


"I should've been a statistic, but decided to go against all odds instead. What if?" - David Goggins.

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If I'm feeling solipsistic, I find it helpful to spend time with another person.

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If it's causing you suffering that's an obvious trait of the ego. Become more observant in seeing its mind games.

It seems to me your ego has hijacked your shroom experience and contorted it into some solipsistic story


"God is not a conclusion, it is a sudden revelation. When you see a rose it is not that you go through a logical solipsism, "This is a rose, and roses are beautiful, so this must be beautiful." The moment you see it, the head stops spinning thoughts. On the contrary, your heart starts beating faster. It is something totally different from the idea of truth." -Osho

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1 hour ago, traveler said:

Eat more (only if you feel like you lost your appetite), watch some shitty tv shows, take a break from spirituality, solipsism is not true. Remember that what you think you know is only what you think you know. 

This.

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@Antor8188 become grounded & spend time letting your thougjt constructs and your ego be there. 


Genesis 27:27-29

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@Antor8188 well my advice for you is go all the way. Be open minded and fearless. Investigate for yourself. Investigate solipsism and other philosophical positions regarding the nature of reality and see which one makes more sense to you and be honest about that. If you do find solipsism to be valid.. Fine go for it. Accept it.  The truth should be desired for it's own sake.  I'm not saying solipsism is true but I've struggled a lot with it recently.. It can be debunked with 100% certainty but you have to figure that out by yourself. 


"life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived "

-Osho

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4 hours ago, Antor8188 said:

Hello.After my shrooms trip I started suffering from derealization and can’t get over it.suffering from solipsism.How can I get over it? I hope Leo you respond to it.

If you are feeling too depressed and lonely, do things that you enjoy, like watching movies or hanging out with friends. Realize that everything around you is real and lively because you are experiencing it right now. Only when you are sure that you are happy with what is already present before you and your are able to have an open mind to explore things further, go with all the other stuffs. Even if you figure out your are all alone yourself, it doesn't mean you are alone, because it's also an illusion in the mind created by your genes to help you socialize and leads to a negative feeling in this egoic mind.

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3 hours ago, Member said:

This.

You put a line over "solipsism isn't true" but there is no real reason to tell someone who is suffering with that belief otherwise. When one says something is true, the opposite is always just as true. By countering op's belief with its opposite, it may (probably not) be let go off. The belief has no value whatsoever and it is as empty as any other belief.

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@traveler From my perspective, a healthy attitude includes open mindedness, while clinging to concepts that are either true/false while intuition says otherwise could lead to cognitive dissonance. You're more likely to feel like losing grip on reality when you're closed-minded because the mind has no boundaries. This doesn't mean that obsessive thinking is healthy, not at all.

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Solipsism isn't true. Other people are real. Your experience may be limited to... well, your experience, but that doesn't mean there is nothing outside of you.

When one feels solipsistic in the derealised sense, it is as if nothing around one were real, that one were the only being there. This can be a very lonely (harrowing) experience.

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@modmyth if you have seen leo's outrageous experiments in consciousness, doesnt leo promote solipsism? Actually because of leo i am suffering from solipsism and the shrooms trip enhanced it!

 

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Derealization = Awakening Slightly.

When you fully awaken to the truth, you de-realize completely and your ego goes.

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@Antor8188 Derealisation is a relatable problem brother. 

My case might be a bit different from yours since I've never taken psychedelics, but I've hard dark experiences with derealisation and etc. 

I know that for myself I am dishonest/(tunnel visioned) of what the complete problem is. Any other mental health issues like depression or anxiety? This isn't to dismiss your problem but to maybe give you something to work on what you think is unrelated, when it all goes together, and you'll see your solipsism thing more clearly. 

You're in a black hole. I'm in a black hole. At the very least, we perceive ourselves to be in one. There answer isn't to turn back, it's to move all the way through it and see what's on the other side. Even if it seems unfair. 

 

 


Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough.

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