Posted April 27, 2020 @belen you're very thoughtful. INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 27, 2020 My lonely ass reading this entire thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 27, 2020 I would like to introduce a very interesting point. I think about 30 mins to 45 mins about sex maybe an hour in a day where i masturbated or after the day i masturbated where as if i did a solid hour of meditation or other kind of enlightenment work, i thought about sex for 5-10. And its kinda kinetic and visual projection anyways so even if i am biologically speaking horny, i instantly think that i don't want my life to be penis oriented, and that turns me off almost instantly for good. But even if i tought about sex for en hour, thats 23 when i am not thinking avout sex. And sex consist maybe like 0. % of your life. Yet we are so drawn to it. just look at the numbers and drop it for once, let thpse energies find expression upwards... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 Most people are not simply gonna be able to drop sex, no matter your logic or numbers. The better strategy is to satiate the sex drive rather than repress it. If you can genuinely drop it, great. But that's so rare it makes you a unique person. This is a topic where it helps to be realistic rather than saintly. That saintliness will come back to bite you if you aren't fully able to embody it naturally. Saintliness through repression will not work. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 Sexual energy is actually a strong element in mystical experiences and openmindedness. The awakened feminine and masculine both radiate sexual energy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 @Leo Gura i mean sure, repression will not work and has not worked for me, letting your mindsets constantly die and openess to life will erode your lusts greatly. I am for unclutching from it, not attending, just seeing it coming and going, not really labeling it as bad or wrong and then fighting it. Who has time for sex if one genuinely seeks the truth in life? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Applegarden said: Who has time for sex if one genuinely seeks the truth in life? Me! You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Applegarden said: Who has time for sex if one genuinely seeks the truth in life? True. But of course, childhood patterns and the grooves in my brain change slowly. Lots of ego backlash. “Many talk like philosophers yet live like fools.” — Proverb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Leo Gura said: Most people are not simply gonna be able to drop sex, no matter your logic or numbers. The better strategy is to satiate the sex drive rather than repress it. If you can genuinely drop it, great. But that's so rare it makes you a unique person. This is a topic where it helps to be realistic rather than saintly. That saintliness will come back to bite you if you aren't fully able to embody it naturally. Saintliness through repression will not work. For me personally, I use to be man with a very active sex life. I was a sex addict for decades. Driven by it. Had to have sex daily, and be in poly relationships to have even more sex. When I got into spirituality, I went cold turkey in a path of shedding attachments. I haven't had sex in 3 years. I had offers throughout these years, but turned them down. And now I don't know if I ever will go down the path of being a sexual person again. Sure, if an amazing women I connected with on a deep level showed interest, I would most likely want to experience that. Overall I don't miss it much. The thought of trying to convince anyone of anything seems just uninteresting to me now. I'm just as fine never having sex again. Edited April 28, 2020 by Jed Vassallo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jed Vassallo said: For me personally, I use to be man with a very active sex life. I was a sex addict for decades. Driven by it. Had to have sex daily, and be in poly relationships to have even more sex. Lol, that's precisely what I mean. You were able to give it up precisely because you burned through that karma. You satiated that desire to the point where now you can transcend it. This is what I said above is the most realistic way. Now imagine what would have happened had you spent decades suppressing it and trying to act saintly. Growing up requires living through experiences. It's not enough to just theoretically let stuff go. Experience, struggle, and failure are necessary to learn the deepest lessons. Which is why we have life in the first place. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 Just now, Leo Gura said: Lol, that's precisely what I mean. You were able to give it up precisely because you burned through that karma. You satiated that desire to the point where now you can transcend it. This is what I said above is the most realistic way. Good point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 Ahaha no way are men more horny! Women just have a better way of hiding it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) @Dutch guy many reasons why you would want to transcend. Sexually induced guilt, many delusions of wanting to chase people, that are maybe unreasobale or even wanting to cheat or become an addict of that and it activates many identities and lusts into web of delusions and may want to make big life decisions you didn't acctally want, because every life decision has it side effects and underlying situations you now have to face that nobody told you about. If you transcend it, you are free, there like one big relief and less trigger for you, now you don't have to go trough a hormonally induced cycle of lust to pleasure yourself and call yourself "happy". Breaking that is so much more cost effective. For example i open a discover section on instagram and look at all those artifically enhanced photos of like top of the women there and it doesn't turn me on because i see its just a body, altho sometimes it does, but IT'S SO RELIEVING BECAUSE ITS SO MUCH LESS. And your sexual desire will be used in relationships to get out somthing from you. And it can be a major reason for your divorce. And besides, do you really want to be a meninizer/womenizer, to chase, chase and chase, you ill get into so many situations nobody told you about (oh and it may save you tons of your HARD earned money, and time to do what acctually matters to you). Just my opinion, don't base your life around it. Ohh on my nofap journey mental clarity, stability and long term desire recognition increases enormously. Now i care less of what somebody thinks of me but when i do jerk off, suddely i feel like i have to potray my self in a way to be desired in some uncoscious manner. Edited April 28, 2020 by Applegarden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 There's no single solution here for everyone. You must find whatever you're comfortable with and capable of handling. For some people this will mean tons of sex, for others it will mean the opposite, because you are on different karmic paths. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 "Girls are less horny than men"? Bwahahahaha... oooh man, that's a hoot! Sexual promiscuity ≠ horniness. Just sayin'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) My experience is although I might have been "horny" when I was a much younger female, my experiences with men caused me to hate it and have no desire for it. Because the vast majority of men do not give women what they actually want or wired for. This is especially true if the female is very deep or highly spiritual which is how I was oriented. This whole thing of men jumping onto a woman and quickly getting off for their own pleasure and then quickly moving onto TV or whatever has ZERO appeal to a spiritual woman or a woman of any depth. This quick dumping their load into a female or non-spiritual sex will only work for younger shallower girls. For a female who is wired to be incredibly deep or spiritual, this will not work for long. A female wired this spiritual or deep way will just get bored and lose interest in sex altogether. And possibly become asexual, which is what happened to me. Then a few years ago in my now much older years of life I had this mind-boggling experience where I met a man who somehow unleashed the spiritual sexual goddess inside of me. And when the goddess came out of me, it defied belief or explanation, especially when I was a number years post total hysterectomy with nothing to operate on. It was like my physical feats were supernatural for a much older woman. Suddenly, I wanted THIS man - everything he could give me sexually, completely open to everything. He could have sex with me anytime he wanted for as much as he wanted at the drop of a dime and my answer was always yes. We had 6 hour sex sessions, more commonly 3. He did not have to work to make me squirt. I SATURATED him easily. This defies completely what is the physical ability of an older woman. Another realm altogether. I took this man to paradise many times. I was divine feminine embodied. He gasped at the glory of it, saying I was every man's dream. But my story does not have a happy ending. He was totally unconscious and unspiritual and engaged in severe verbal and emotional abuse towards me. That will stop any self-respecting woman from wanting sex with such a "man". And the story ended with my return to asexuality or no sexuality. One might wonder - why would I be drawn to such an unconscious man. Well it defied human explanation, but there were so many memories of past lives with this man. Karmic connection, but I also came to believe he was my "twin flame". I have since abandoned belief in twin flames. There were definitely spiritual dynamics taking place that defied any explanation. All the human rules may apply UNTIL you encounter a woman who embodies the divine feminine. Then it's another animal altogether and all bets are off, as she will be incredibly open to octave realms of exploration into sexuality. A non spiritual or unawakened man would not be able to handle it. I bet @Leo Gura could handle one of these feminine spiritual forces of nature that defies all human understanding, but it would be a rare man to even recognize, much less appreciate it. Unfortunately. Meanwhile the human level and games of sexuality goes on and on. There is SO MUCH MORE that can be awakened to in this area that knows no bounds. So, the answer to the questions is yes. Unless you are dealing with a girl that is more awakened to divinity in sexuality and templated for sacred sexuality, and then you would be dealing with a girl that will be insatiable beyond belief. After my experience, I researched and discovered a couple that embodied what it is like to be matched in their divinity in sexuality or sacred sexuality. This couple is Jon and Missy Butcher. I can only hope to meet my match next lifetime because this is something that is a shame to be wasted. Regardless, now I just place my focus on personal development and awakening. Edited April 28, 2020 by wordsforliving Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Dutch guy said: There is SO MUCH MORE that can be awakened to in this area that knows no bounds. Yes , yes and yes! Right! I had to quit considering it because it would just torture me to ponder it. I participated in Orgasmic Meditation in NYC and learned that female sexual energy is exceptionally powerful. Yes it is. It's a shame that he masculine is lagging behind in awareness of their energy in a spiritual realm. Edited April 28, 2020 by wordsforliving Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) @Dutch guy Jon and Missy Butcher have created CATEGORY 13. They are embodying it. They have broke the code of human thinking and restrictions and low consciousness in this area. And what they know could change the world if just everyone would learn and tap into it. I for one really miss it, having tasted it and loved it but an unconscious man choose porn addiction, alcohol and unconscious living. porn had rewired his brain to reject a female in person and opt for the porn addiction. A shame because there is a whole universe in sexuality that is being missed. Edited April 28, 2020 by wordsforliving Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 30, 2020 On 4/28/2020 at 11:26 AM, Dutch guy said: @Leo Gura Would love to see a video about spiritual sexuality Leo. Since your holistic approach. This is such a big aspect in life. I've experimented with sexual hypnosis. I made my ex-girlfriend have a minute-long orgasm via skype just by talking to her, no touching. I can make a girl have a deeper orgasm via text message than she's ever had with a guy in real life. Amazing things are possible if you take your sex seriously. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites