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Spiral Dynamics Stage Yellow Examples Mega-Thread

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8 minutes ago, moon777light said:

i was debating whether i should post teal swan on here but i think shes more stage green, although she shows slight signs of yellow

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I posted her in the Green thread. I do think she as a person is beyond green, but her teaching seems to target green people. 

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@moon777light No problem! Thanks for the reply! I think Teal Swan definitely has stage Yellow aspects as she is extremely deep at analyzing problems and issues especially pertaining to human development. She talks about being fully integrated, etc. I am sure she sees the inner workings of people and societies deeply. 

From what I understand the idea is to transcend and include, so technically speaking you would still use aspects of green, orange, and even red at times to become more holistic and integrated and sort of build layers so you can understand through a birds eye view the workings of societies and individuals (which I believe is stage yellow). 

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Eric Weinstein
Most of his deeper and more insightful ideas have been expressed in long podcasts and panel discussions. These are some short videos that are good nonetheless:

 

 

Jonathan Blow

Again, he has given a lot of talks and has been interviewed a lot. These are just some of the short clips of him that contain pretty great insight themselves (by the way, the game he has made is about non-dualism among other things, so check that out too if you can):

 

 

Bret Weinstein

Eric's brother, he's an evolutionary biologist and a great systems thinker (just random videos I took from his channel, which has videos that are all good):

 

Scott Adams

Definitely yellow (the video doesn't even remotely capture all he's got to say, he talks about this long almost every day):

 

Heather Heying

Bret Weinstein's wife, also an evolutionary biologist (I don't think this video is fully representative and I myself don't fully agree with some of her points here, but it's one of the short ones):

 

David Chalmers:

 

Shane Carruth:

 

Thomas Sowell:

 

Don Hoffman:

 

Some of these people aren't fully yellow (most are really yellow in one dimension and green or maybe even orange in others).

Other people worth mentioning that are to varying degrees yellow (in most cases I just couldn't find videos of them that really fit the description of yellow, whatever that is; also, this has already become a gigantic post): Eliezer Yudkowsky, Nick Bostrom, Robin Hanson, Julia Galef, Diana Fleischman, Geoffry Miller, Bryan Caplan, Claire Lehman, Aubrey de Grey, Nassim Nicholas Taleb, Gad Saad, Ted Chiang, Alan Kay, Ted Nelson, Bret Victor

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5 hours ago, moon777light said:

i was debating whether i should post teal swan on here but i think shes more stage green, although she shows slight signs of yellow

Teal may very well be turquoise, it's hard to tell. I seems she is focused helping green transcend up to yellow and then turquoise. Her content seems to be pretty yellow if you ask me, usually swaying from green/yellow to yellow/turquoise.

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Does anyone have any examples of a stage Yellow U.S. Politician (Other then Obama)? 

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36 minutes ago, Equanimitize said:

Does anyone have any examples of a stage Yellow U.S. Politician (Other then Obama)? 

I've posted a video about Larry Lassig on the Green thread. I can't tell if he's beyond it for sure but it could be. 


Association with the wise is the root cause for obliterating all misery. -  Tripura Rahasya

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15 hours ago, stevegan928 said:

I seems she is focused helping green transcend up to yellow and then turquoise.

very well said!

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Yo, this guy is yellow as fuck, you might wanna check him out! 

 

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Sadhguru is yellow, if you're watching a lot of his videos you will understand why, most of his speeches are repetitive.

 

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Proof that the culture is shifting toward yellow (at least in the US/anglophone countries)? I for one am optimistic.

P.S.: I know both Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson have arguably a lot of orange green in them. But this is a conversation between two people with opposing views who try not to attack each other and understand the opposing side's arguments as best as they can and work toward finding a common ground. A discussion where listeners don't pick sides and are more interested in the intellectual aspects. You'd have to accept that such an event is greatly characterized by yellow. It has very little green in it, maybe some orange, but there must be something other than pure personality cults drawing so many people in (even if that's not true, this could rather be a "come for orange, stay for yellow" situation, as both Harris and Peterson are more interested in the ideas than their personal benefit).

Also, this is by far not the only example, more and more people are listening to long-form media everyday where deep ideas are discussed (Joe Rogan's podcast, Sam Harris's podcast, Leo's videos, Dave Rubin's show, audiobooks).

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Kubrick and the film 2001

In your stage yellow video you describe what a "yellow" person might be like and that closely resembles Stanley Kubrick

- He is an individualist, preferring to have total control over his work, sometimes not getting along with others

- He never seeks attention and never appears in public

- His films (especially ones in his mid to late career) have very ambiguous messages, with no obvious ideology

- He is very mechanical in the way he directs: others may say he is "cold" or "mechanical"

- He would research extensively, reading many books when working on a film

- He isn't afraid to be a bit manipulative and rational if necessary

- But he isn't a misanthrope or a nihilist at all

 

(btw: screenprism is amazing for researching deeper meanings in movies: every one of their videos is quality)

I realize this film may have a lot of "turquoise", but two reasons why I think it qualifies for "yellow"

- we are made aware that science and technology is just a phase in human evolution: unless we evolve into the next stage, all the technological advancement in the world won't change the fact that we are just more evolved versions of the chimps at the start of the film

- it uses the concept of eternal recurrence: i think there are several infinite loops in the film, but the most significant one is Dave's regression into old age and death and then rebirth into something more evolved. As mentioned in the video, after destroying what man had created himself, we will be forced into a period of self reflection before we can be reborn into a more intelligent form.

 

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For all the gamers out there:D Surely it's not the whole channel that is yellow, but I find that especially this guy who does the commentary on this (and many other videos) has a highly impartial and yellow-like mindset.

 


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Elliot Alderson. [ Solving world problems with systems thinking ]

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yellow with some personal issues

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I was thinking about a couple of examples of stage Yellow technology/science, that are both pretty cutting edge right now:

Deep learning/neural nets are an example of Stage Yellow/Tier 2 technology because they take a synthetic approach to solving problems, rather than a reductive approach like in most computer programming paradigms and even earlier iterations of artificial intelligence. When you try to disassemble a neural net to reductively understand how it comes to decisions, it becomes less and less meaningful. Neural nets are modelled or inspired by a very simplified version of how we think biological brains work, so of course a real brain is also very Stage Yellow. 

The study of the gut microbiome is a Yellow field of study because it tends to be less meaningful to look at any one species than when you look at the interactions between all the flora as a whole, and the host animal. This is true for all kinds of other ecological systems too. 

Not new or cutting edge really, but another tech example is a hologram. The image in a hologram isn't "stored" in any one place. When you cut a hologram in half, you get two smaller copies of the same image rather than two half-images. The information is encoded holistically.

 

 


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I didn't agree with Leo at first when he said Obama is yellow. He really isn't, think about the wars he started, the drone strikes, NSA surveillance, the promises he never kept, which all suggest he's your normal orange run-of-the-mill politician). He also supported identity politics during and near the end of his second term, which hints that he may have been transitioning into green (he also may have been somewhat green from the start considering his, albeit not adequate, support for the environment, healthcare and denuclearization). But I still couldn't see how he was yellow.

That's until now. I just saw this clip of him yesterday that suggests even though he may not have been yellow all along, he is now hopefully transitioning into yellow and that makes me happy (remember, this is a totally new thing that everyone's shocked by, he never said stuff like this before the election when he so desperately wanted Clinton to win, not a yellow attitude):

 

 

Also, for those who think Jordan Peterson is orange:

 

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Association with the wise is the root cause for obliterating all misery. -  Tripura Rahasya

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