Spiral Dynamics Stage Orange Examples Mega-Thread

[Bernardo Carleial]

 

[CellRider]

Artificial Intelligence, Machine Learning, Deep learning, Artificial Neural Networks, Autonomous systems, autonomous vehicles, robotics, data "science", internet of things, digital twin, digital transformation, the tech utopia.

Example of companies that talk about this stuff and believe in the tech utopia are and are of stage orange are Synopsys, Hexagon,  Autodesk and Siemens. Shown is Synopsys's website. Website of the other companies are shown in subsequent posts.

People confuse them as yellow, as the are are bit nuanced. But the 'bit nuanced' stage is the "achiever" in the nine stages of ego development, not the stage 5 "autonomous" stage. This is why people also miss identify the University of Queensland as yellow when the are in fact orange, and at most the highest cognitive and ego development of staff at the Uni, is partially in the pluralist stage, so they are definitely "not yellow" although they are nuanced compared to "conformists" or "experts".  Stage yellow requires a post-conventional mind and cognitive development, so if your mind or cognitive development is conventional you are definitely not in this stage.

 

 

[CellRider]

@Fearey claimed,

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"Those working on and pushing this technology forwards likely does so out of a genuine interest in the topic, not to enrich themselves materially."

No, these people or businesses are working towards it because allows jobs to be automated to save money. They do this because they believe in the tech utopia. Stop confusing orange for yellow. The tech utopia is often confused for yellow, when in fact it is a stage orange fantasy. Yes it is true that new technology is required to solve the worlds problems, but alone it will not solve the world's problems They are not yellow the people who develop stuff like Artificial Intelligence, Machine Learning, Deep learning, Artificial Neural Networks, Autonomous systems, autonomous vehicles, robotics, data "science", internet of things, digital twin, digital transformation, because they do not think on the impact on society and believe AI is an existential threat. 

 

Additionally, @Fearey claimed,

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"These kinds of people tend to seek knowledge for its own sake, and not in pursuit of material success in and of itself."

No, these things are being developed by business which are, orange, like silicon valley companies. IT and computer "science" is a very orange field. 

Do you seriously think, Synopsys, Hexagon, Autodesk, or Siemens are at vision logic? They are not because they are not cognitively developed enough

This would not " would at the very least put such individuals into Yellow, if not higher" because these organisations are at the achiever stage and are conventional.

@Fearey, you have the wrong idea what stage yellow is. It is not the tech utopia. Stage yellow requires vision logic.

Edited July 9, 2022 by CellRider

[CellRider]

The tech utopia or the "future" is, flying cars, electric cars, internet of things, drones, humanoid robots, artificial intelligence, renewable energy, smart buildings, cool gadgets.

 

Edited July 9, 2022 by CellRider

[Raze]

 

[Raze]

 

[thisintegrated]

On 09/07/2022 at 5:16 AM, CellRider said:

The tech utopia or the "future" is, flying cars, electric cars, internet of things, drones, humanoid robots, artificial intelligence, renewable energy, smart buildings, cool gadgets.

 

Nope.  That's 100% Yellow.

Orange is not at all this forward thinking or broad in its scope.  Orange plays under pre-established rules.  It doesn't  even care about making traditional cars better, let alone reinventing what the car is.  Orange would, simply, open a factory in China and make cheap copies of gas-powered cars, and cut corners for extra profit.

Revolutionizing transport at a global level is the very opposite of what Orange would do.

There are waaaaaaaaaaay easier ways to get rich and famous than by challenging the world order and doing something that's never been done before and still gets laughed at.  There are still people who think electric or self-driving cars are science fiction or a fad.

Edited August 7, 2022 by thisintegrated

[AtheisticNonduality]

@thisintegrated Again with the techno-Muskian hogwash . . . ?

[thisintegrated]

8 minutes ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

@thisintegrated Again with the techno-Muskian hogwash . . . ?

bruh.. I didn't even mention him.

You think electric cars are a fad?

And self driving cars too?

And reusable rockets are somehow Orange too?
It's literal rocket science.  There exists no feat more impractical for an Orange.

 

Orange people are attracted to becoming lawyers, engineers, businessmen, etc.  Not revolutionaries and impractical dreamers who talk of sci-fi stuff like drones and electric cars.  Orange engineers join drone companies or join Tesla.  They don't come up with this shit.  They join ideas/companies once they've already taken off and there's money to be made.  Yellows are the people who come up with it all, as in the beginning there's no money in anything and Yellows don't care, they just see the future and know what must be done.

Edited August 7, 2022 by thisintegrated

[Raze]

 

[Raze]

 

[integral]

Leonardo DiCaprio breaks up with woman the moment they turn 25. He does this consistently. 

From 1999 to now he has never dated anyone older then 25 statistics show. 

Edited September 4, 2022 by integral

[integral]

 

[Ulax]

 

[Loving Radiance]

 

[lostingenosmaze]

You ready?! Let's go!
Yeah, for those of you that wanna know what we're all about
It's like this y'all (c'mon)

This is ten percent luck
Twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure
Fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name

He doesn't need his name up in lights
He just wants to be heard whether it's the beat or the mic
He feels so unlike everybody else, alone
In spite of the fact that some people still think that they know him
But fuck 'em, he knows the code, it's not about the salary
It's about reality and making some noise
Making a story, making sure his clique stays up
That means when he puts it down, Tak's pickin' it up

Who the hell is he anyway, he never really talks much
Never concerned with status but still leavin' them star struck
Humbled through opportunities given despite the fact
That many misjudge him because he makes a livin' from writing raps
Put it together himself, now the picture connects
Never asking for someone's help, or to get some respect
He's only focused on what he wrote; his will is beyond reach
And now it all unfolds, the skill of an artist

This is twenty percent skill, eighty percent beer
Be a hundred percent clear 'cause Ryu is ill
Who would've thought that he'd be the one to set the west in flames
Then heard him wreckin' with The Crystal Method, Name Of The Game
Came back, dropped Megadef, took 'em to church
I like bleach, man, Ryu had the stupidest verse
This dude is the truth, now everybody be givin' him guest spots
His stock's through the roof; I heard he fuckin' with S-Dot

This is ten percent luck
Twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure
Fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name

They call him Ryu he's sick, and he's spittin' fire and Mike
Got him out the dryer he's hot, found him in Fort Minor with Tak
What a fuckin' nihilist porcupine; he's a prick; he's a cock
The type women want to be with and rappers hope he get shot
Eight years in the makin' patiently waitin' to blow
Now the record with Shinoda's takin' over the globe
He's got a partner in crime; his shit is equally dope
You won't believe the kind of shit that comes out of this kid's throat

He's not your every day on the block
He knows how to work with what he's got
Makin' his way to the top
He often gets a comment on his name
People keep asking him was it given at birth
Or does it stand for an acronym?
No, he's livin' proof that he rockin' the booth
He'll get you buzzin' quicker than a shot of vodka with juice
Him and his crew are known around as one of the best
Dedicated to what they do and give a hundred percent

Forget Mike, nobody really knows how or why he works so hard
It seems like he's never got time
Because he writes every note and he writes every line
And I've seen him at work when that light goes on in his mind
It's like a design is written in his head every time
Before he even touches a key or speaks in a rhyme
And those motherfuckers he runs with, the kids that he signed
Ridiculous, without even trying, how do they do it?

This is ten percent luck
Twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure
Fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name

This is ten percent luck
Twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure
Fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name

Yeah
Fort Minor
M-Shinoda
Styles of Beyond
Ryu
Takbir
Machine Shop

Edited October 8, 2022 by lostingenosmaze

[Bernardo Carleial]

A very good allegory of Capitalism 

[Bernardo Carleial]

 

[aurum]

Notice:

• The atomic symbol
• The tagline on the desk and backdrop

If it weren’t for those clues, it would have been more questionable. But given the entire context this feels very Orange to me.

[Bernardo Carleial]

A very good example of vMEME Orange overrelyance  on logic, to the point of being naive...

Reality is far more chaotic than what this video is trying to present...

A lot of our challenges in life requires non-linear solutions, when feedback is not very clear or it's delayed (no "if-then" fallacies), or sometimes we might do everything right, we have the "clear logic", but the environment that we're in is very hostile for growing, or it doesn't provide the frame of reference necessary to overcome a problem, and so on and so forth...

Don't get me wrong! logic is a very helpful tool! The Problem with vMEME Orange is that they atomized too much their worldview, to the point of trying to make reality to accommodate their own individual perspective, giving lots of instant feedbacks, just because someone has the "right mindset" and is being proactive ... and that's not gonna fly in a complex world like ours...