Spiral Dynamics Stage Blue Examples Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

On 7/12/2018 at 6:59 PM, Joel3102 said:

 

"I am getting really sick of people who whine about "civilian casualties." Maybe I'm a hard-hearted guy, but when I see in the newspapers that civilians in Afghanistan or the West Bank were killed by American or Israeli troops, I don't really care. In fact, I would rather that the good guys use the Air Force to kill the bad guys, even if that means some civilians get killed along the way. One American soldier is worth far more than an Afghan civilian."

Ben Shapiro - 2002

https://townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/2002/07/25/enemy-civilian-casualties-ok-by-me-n1391583

Ugly manifestation of stage blue thinking. 

That is super-typical of Blue thinking. It's not even ugly from their perspective because they really believe in the whole good guys vs bad guys narrative. And of course, we are always the good guys so we can do no wrong.

The lack of compassion comes from lack of exposure to the "bad guys".

Excellent example!

[Antonius]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/world-cup-2018/6791680/croatia-fans-zagreb-welcome-home-final/

Croatia, my home country. 300,000 (out of 4 million) people on the streets welcoming our football team which won silver medal on the world cup. People here are extremely patriotic, the country was born out of war.

I believe this country is Blue as fuck, like 50% maybe?

Edited July 16, 2018 by Antonius
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[Greenbirch]

[carlowillo]

Borat, the embodiment of a stage blue character, triggering other stage blues in the form of rednecks. Comedy genius

 

Edited July 19, 2018 by carlowillo

[NickOleksiak]

Butch Hartman, creator of the famous animated shows Fairly Odd Parents and Danny Phantom, seems like the typical conservative Middle America Blue/Orange mix. There's possibly Orange-type corruption going on with his Kickstarter; note I say "possibly". The YouTuber criticizing Butch, Crit1kal, is definitely Orange/Green, leaning more towards Green in his level of care for others; he has always donated all of the money he's gotten from ad revenue and has a strong Green-type morality that he expresses on his channel. This particular rant, though, seems more Orange: "Kids aren't robots. They have different tastes...Now, whether or not the kid should've seen the Exorcist falls on the parent...Kids are humans, not machines..." More subjectivity allowed than Butch's viewpoint.

[batfly]

Dan explains WHY YOU'RE POOR

Be sure to watch until the end.  This is the way Billionaires think and why they have most of all the resources.  They are relentless.

 

 

 

Edited July 22, 2018 by batfly

[Revolutionary Think]

Dan Pena Went to CSUN like I did wow that's crazy. 

[batfly]

Get a load of this...

 

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, batfly said:

Dan explains WHY YOU'RE POOR

Be sure to watch until the end.  This is the way Billionaires think and why they have most of all the resources.  They are relentless.

 

 

This is not Blue, this is very clearly Orange.

[SFRL]

 

[Revolutionary Think]

Stage blue satire 

 

 

[How to be wise]

Very influential Muslim speaker. He’s known to have converted many thousands of people to Islam.

 

Edited July 23, 2018 by How to be wise

[CreamCat]

1. Compulsory Public Education System.
2. Jury Duty
3. Military Conscription

[Revolutionary Think]

@CreamCat I made #1 part of my life purpose to combat it. 

[Winston]

Check out the blogs https://orthosphere.wordpress.com/ and https://zippycatholic.wordpress.com/. These are good examples of highly intellectualized stage Blue mentality.

[Revolutionary Think]

  

[Scholar]

This is very interesting:

 

It seems like blue is reacting against green, who are showing empathy and compassion for pedophiles. Though some points made in that video do seem valid, for example that the greeks seemed to have been going to the same direction. Was Ancient Greece actually transitioning to green? And might stage green be a weakness if other, competitive civilizations are stage blue/red, because of their willingness to be aggressive?

It seems to me like, especially in the past, green and orange are associated with the degradation of strong, unified moral values. Could it be that whenever there is prosperity in a society, the need for the morals (which previously were needed to stabilized the behavior of individuals to favor the survival of the society) disappear and thus the society becomes less stable? An analogy would be how a muscle develops, when you need to use the muscle it grows, and when you don't need to use it anymore, it becomes weaker, because there is no need for it to be strong. Could morals in a society function in a similar manner, that whenever there is put pressure on a society (for example having to survive in nature or having to defend against other groups) the moral system becomes more rigid to ensure survival, and when the pressure is gone (through technology, peace, prosperity) these structures just start to loosen up and compassion for all people start to arise (like compassion of minorities, other races, animals etc.)?

It seems like civilizations always crumbled when there was a lack of pressure for an extended period of time, which lead to the civilization being weakened, and then a sudden activity of high pressure which the civilization was not prepared for.

 

What does that mean for our future? Have we reached a point in which technology stabilizes us so effectively that we don't need moral standards anymore, even if there might come sudden, unexpected outside pressure? Will our civilization simply crumble and be replaced by more rigid civilizations, that have not yet reached stage green/orange? 

And how will blue continue to react against green? Reading the comments in the video makes one wonder.

Edited August 7, 2018 by Scholar

[lmfao]

Bride Kidnapping as an accepted norm in Kyrgyzstan is a tradition which I haven't put an SD label on but I find interesting all the same. I'd say its probably a fusion of stage purple, blue and red. 

I found this documentary extremely disturbing lol. 

Even though this whole tradition is fucked up to begin with, I would look upon it more favourably if kidnapping was a ritualistic humorous gesture rather than an act of domination and submission. It would be better if this was something done between people who are deep into a romantic relationship already as a proposal. And even as a proposal, the woman should not be so heavily forced and should be allowed to leave quickly after being kidnapped. Should the woman or the family refuse they will be seen as dishonerable and will meet much opposition. Its such a slap in the face to human worth and freedom. As the tradition gradually becomes abolished, a large toning down of the tradition would great to see as well.

People speak of raising the globe to stage green and yellow. Good luck with that shit when purple and red is still prevelant.

Edited August 14, 2018 by lmfao

[Marcell Kovacs]

Does Bruce Lee exhibit some Blue qualities among his Purple peers?

[andyjohnsonman]

https://9gag.com/gag/aeM8rvm